Foles has one year left…future at qb?

at some point, we have to have people to step in for other people.

We’ve been so low on talent, for so long, that it’s hard to conceptualizer that we need a constant influx of talent, even at positions that we feel good about.

Last year we went HEAVY on secondary. Next year it’ll be time for these guys to earn their keep.

zn wrote:

Herzog wrote:

19 million over how many years? Or are you saying per year?

Yeah as people pointed out, I was saying per year.

I break it down this way.

First, this is not just “a qb contract” we’re discussing, it’s what starters get in their 2nd contracts. The distinction is important. That eliminates a lot of guys right away–the rookies and anyone past their 2nd contract.

I also look at recent contracts. Because that tells you where the average is going. It goes up. Rivers for example signed his 2nd contract earlier…he got less.

So far, the 2nd contracts of interest begin with guys drafted in 2008. That’s Ryan, Flacco, Kaepernick, Stafford, Dalton. All 5 totaled = appx 93.4, divided by 5 = appx. 18.7. I figure Wilson will raise the avg. to 19 M or more so close enough. Some get more (Flacco), some get less (Dalton) but it will be around the market avg.

The people JUST below that signed earlier than the 2008 class did, or it’s a vet like Brady (whose avg. is deceptive cause every penny of his contract is guaranteed. That’s essentially trading real money for the appearance of more.)

The next tier down, subtracting the rookies, it’s guys like Hoyer, Schaub, and Cassel.

Objections to breaking it down that way & a response:

max

Flacco and Kaepernick get less without their SBs. It’s wrong to include them in your averages if you’re trying to determine what Foles will fetch if he has a solid year but the Rams don’t make the playoffs.

Well, I deliberately keep saying more or less, or around, or give or take, and so on, so I didn’t say it was a direct, straight-up 19 M per player.

As for CK, his is a very incentive laden deal that is not built on complete faith in him…it has elements of a prove-it deal. It’s not really the same as Flacco’s.

Ryan meanwhile got 20+. Ryan has more than Flacco. Dalton was in the playoffs and got less than Ryan too.

So there are situational variations but I thought I was accounting for that. I think it’s safe to say a 19 AVG. — stress on average.

Though Wilson is about to raise the avg. IMO.

So a starting qb up for contract 2 ought to be getting avg. 19 M, give or take…if you want to be specific, anywhere from 17-21 M, depending.

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News
March 18, 2015 – 3:26 pm

Who’s #2 … There appears to be a growing sense around the NFL that Tennessee is unlikely to select Oregon QB Marcus Mariota with the second pick overall at the upcoming draft. Instead the thinking appears to be that the Titans will give second-year QB Zach Mettenberger another season to develop and either take a position like Southern California DE Leonard Williams, whom NFL.com rates as the safest pick in this year’s draft, or look to trade the pick, possibly to some team that has a greater need for a young QB like Mariota. Indeed, the $64K question at this year’s draft could be just where Mariota goes. Washington and the Jets, who pick 5th and 6th picks respectively in this year’s opening round, both had full front-office contingents at Mariota’s pro day earlier this month, although there is a sense around the league that Washington may in fact be just feigning interest to induce a team with a later pick like Cleveland to move up ahead of the Jets, although its not clear why Washington would then also need to make any team think they might take Mariota themselves. In fact, all that kind of smoke and mirrors might accomplish is force said team with the later to pick to also plot to move up ahead of Washington! Then, of course, Philadelphia is still out there and may still may be interested in acquiring Mariota even after adding veteran QB Sam Bradford in a trade with St. Louis last week. Stay tuned!
http://gbnreport.com/