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August 13, 2015 at 2:36 pm #28985znModerator
Two Underrated Factors That’ll Keep the Rams’ Defense Contending
Anthony Stalter
http://www.101sports.com/2015/08/19/two-underrated-factors-thatll-keep-the-rams-defense-contending/
How can the Rams stop Jimmy Graham?
That question poured into our text line in early March when the Seahawks acquired the tight end from the Saints in exchange for Pro Bowl center Max Unger and the No. 31 overall pick in the 2015 draft.
Seattle was coming off their second Super Bowl appearance in as many years and already featured the likes of Marshawn Lynch and Russell Wilson in their offense. How were the Rams supposed to take the next step towards being a contender when their biggest hurdle within the division just got stronger?
Building one of the most versatile and deepest defenses in the NFL would be a good start.
When two-time Super Bowl winner Jimmy Johnson arrived in the NFL after a decorated career at the University of Miami, opponents mocked the coach, saying the Cowboys’ defense was “nothing but a bunch of little guys.” But Johnson laid the groundwork for how a fast group of versatile defenders could create havoc by generating relentless up-field pressure.
Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams’ influences originated with Buddy Ryan, not Johnson. But, the philosophies of all three men are similar: Send pressure, penetrate, be aggressive, be detailed in assignments.
In order for those words to be more than just coachspeak, a defensive coordinator needs to have the right mix of players.
The Rams now have the deepest and most versatile group of defenders of any time during Jeff Fisher’s tenure in St. Louis.
Two days after the Seahawks traded for Graham, the Rams signed former Patriot and Titan Akeem Ayers to a two-year deal. According to Pro Football Focus, Ayers finished with four sacks, five quarterback hits and 23 hurries for New England.
At first blush, the Ayers deal signaled the Rams’ desire to add to a strength by signing another pass-rusher. True, but St. Louis also added defensive flexibility, because Ayers is a hybrid defender that can play both outside linebacker and defensive end. He also has the ability to cover tight ends, as he’s done throughout camp for the Rams.
Ayers wasn’t the only signing the Rams made this offseason to give themselves defensive flexibility.
A day after inking Ayers, the Rams signed Nick Fairley to a one-year, $5 million contract to give themselves added depth behind starting defensive tackles Aaron Donald and Michael Brockers.
Fairley failed to deliver on his first-round expectations in Detroit, but the Rams won’t ask him to start. His job will be as a pass-rusher in sub-packages. He should excel in the role, considering all of the one-on-one matchups he’ll draw due to opponents forced to deal with the presence of Donald, Robert Quinn and Chris Long.
When the Giants won Super Bowls in 2008 and 2012, they too had versatility along their defensive line. They were able to constantly rotate their defensive ends and defensive tackles to 1) keep everyone fresh and 2) create mismatches for the offensive line, depending on the situation.
The Rams now boast the same flexibility thanks to Donald, Quinn, Brockers, Long, Fairley, William Hayes and Eugene Sims. Ethan Westbrooks and rookie Louis Trinca-Pasat have also flashed ability to rush the passer from various spots along the defensive line.
While discussing versatile defenders, Alec Ogletree has to enter the conversation.
Ogletree might be the most versatile player St. Louis has on defense. The Rams ask him to set the edge against mobile quarterbacks Russell Wilson and Colin Kaepernick four times a season, as well as blitz and play in a variety of coverages.
Ogletree has emerged as one of Williams’ best chess pieces, and playing alongside a veteran like James Laurinaitis (whose strength comes in being the quarterback of Williams’ defense) has enhanced his development.
Like Ogletree, safety T.J. McDonald is another young player on the ascent.
The Rams play plenty of Cover 3 under Williams, and McDonald offers the defense strong side force against the run in that scheme. He still struggles at times in coverage, but McDonald has the athleticism and length to get underneath out routes or drop into the flat to take away easy passing windows for the opposing quarterback.
In camp, McDonald and fellow safety Rodney McLeod look more comfortable in their second year in Williams’ scheme, which helps them identify their keys quickly and play faster.
How do you stop Jimmy Graham? By having versatile players that can match up with him at the line (teams that are physical with Graham at the line often have success with him) and in coverage.
But, those players have to execute.
Again, Jimmy Johnson won two Super Bowls with the Cowboys. The Giants won two titles over the last 10 years. One can draw similarities between Johnson and those New York teams, but the Rams still have to execute and play with discipline, which has been an issue at times under Fisher.
The Rams boast flexibility and versatility, two underrated trademarks for winning defenses. But now it’s time for them to prove that they can be dominant week in and week out.
August 13, 2015 at 2:36 pm #28642znModeratorCan Rams defense be league’s best?
By Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/20287/can-rams-defense-be-the-leagues-best
EARTH CITY, Mo. — The expectations for the St. Louis Rams’ defense in 2015 have already reached fever pitch. Well, they did Wednesday.
For much of the offseason, many — present company included — have wondered whether the Rams could finally take the next step to becoming a top-five defense. But TheMMQB.com’s Andy Benoit took things up a notch Wednesday when he wrote that the Rams will not only be a top-five defense but the top defense in the entire NFL.
Benoit goes on to tick off the many key pieces to the defense and points to the young players like linebacker Alec Ogletree, safety T.J. McDonald and others who are entering their prime at the same time. To be clear, Benoit isn’t necessarily saying the Rams defense will dominate the statistics to be ranked first but that it will be the group that performs the best to help the team stack victories.
“St. Louis’s defense may not finish first in yards or points allowed this season—though it’s sure to be much higher than near the middle, where it finished a year ago,” Benoit wrote. “But in terms of creating team-wide success that contributes directly to victories, it will surpass Seattle as the league’s best D. The Rams’ foundation is built on big plays, and there will be enough of them to put this team in the playoffs for the first time since 2004.”
It’s high praise but it’s also not entirely out of the question. Coordinator Gregg Williams is the Rams’ best coach and the type of defensive mind capable of helping this group finally put it all together.
Talent has never been in question. Consistency has. It still seems like a long journey to the top for a defense that’s underperformed relative to expectations in recent seasons. But there’s no doubt the pieces are in place to make it happen. It’s up to Williams to put those pieces together to make Benoit’s prediction a reality.
August 13, 2015 at 2:54 pm #28644AgamemnonParticipantAugust 13, 2015 at 4:30 pm #28648wvParticipantI think they need a running game for this defense to be top 5. This whole team needs a running game. It is how they are built.
Which means they need a passing game
so teams wont put 12 men in the box.So, thus, the Defense depends
on the passing game.w
vAugust 13, 2015 at 4:41 pm #28649AgamemnonParticipantI think they need a running game for this defense to be top 5. This whole team needs a running game. It is how they are built.
Which means they need a passing game
so teams wont put 12 men in the box.So, thus, the Defense depends
on the passing game.w
vGivens is our secret weapon.
August 13, 2015 at 5:40 pm #28652wvParticipantI think they need a running game for this defense to be top 5. This whole team needs a running game. It is how they are built.
Which means they need a passing game
so teams wont put 12 men in the box.So, thus, the Defense depends
on the passing game.w
vGivens is our secret weapon.
Frankly, i think it was a terrible injustice that
Quinn made the cover of S.I. instead of Givens.w
vAugust 13, 2015 at 5:57 pm #28653AgamemnonParticipantFrankly, i think it was a terrible injustice that
Quinn made the cover of S.I. instead of Givens.w
vI think it is a conspiracy by Fisher. Givins is Black Ops and Fisher has put him in stealth mode. When was the last time you even heard his name mentioned?
August 13, 2015 at 6:02 pm #28654AgamemnonParticipantFinally! The Sam Bradford mural is down at the dome. Say hello to Robert Quinn #STLRams pic.twitter.com/VEvEhsTWx7
— Rene Knott (@reneknottsports) August 13, 2015
August 13, 2015 at 7:15 pm #28656InvaderRamModeratorso robert is now the face of the franchise. i approve although donald should have something to say about that.
i think this defense goes as far as ogletree and mcdonald can take them. they’re the two wildcards to me.
at times this defense has looked like world beaters. consistency has been the problem. ogletree and mcdonald i think have been two of the biggest culprits.
August 13, 2015 at 7:23 pm #28657wvParticipantso robert is now the face of the franchise. i approve although donald should have something to say about that.
i think this defense goes as far as ogletree and mcdonald can take them. they’re the two wildcards to me.
at times this defense has looked like world beaters. consistency has been the problem. ogletree and mcdonald i think have been two of the biggest culprits.
Well last year there were times the front seven got gashed by runners.
And there were times the secondary just made bonehead decisions and had miscommunication errors,
and, there were also times we saw teams just dink and dunk the Rams to death.I would ‘think’ the second problem would be a thing of the past,
at the very least.w
vAugust 13, 2015 at 11:34 pm #28663InvaderRamModeratorwell. second year in the same system. lots of players entering their third and fourth years as a pro. so you’d think the mental errors would go down.
just seems like this defense is ready.
August 14, 2015 at 1:04 am #28667InvaderRamModeratorone guy i was worried about was ogletree. but you keep reading good things about this guy. sounds like he’s maturing. the thing that did him in last year. showing up out of shape. that seems to have disappeared. he’s lost weight. he’s been studying film all offseason. sounds like williams has got him hungry for more.
mcdonald was rated the best safety in the entire league for the second half of the season by pro football focus. he’s entering his third season. he along with ogletree should thrive in this defense. if their heads were swimming last year, they are now entering training camp with a solid foundation on which williams can continue to add different things for offenses to have to think about.
brockers is finally settling into the position he should have been playing all along instead of trying to make him something he is not. more importantly he seems to love doing the dirty work and sacrificing himself for his teammates.
robert quinn was disappointed by last season. i think he comes in extra motivated to get off to a fast start. just in terms of pure physical ability he has to be the most impressive specimen on this unit. he’s gonna want to get back to being the best 4-3 defensive end in the league.
and donald is donald. i think he’s that rare guy who matches his athleticism with an even more impressive will to be the best. i don’t expect a sophomore slump. already rated the best 4-3 defensive tackle by pro football focus, how much further can he take it? with quinn and donald feeding off each other’s talent, can this defensive line finally live up to the hype?
at all three levels, they’ve got at least one guy poised to become a superstar and possibly the best at his position. they have to realize that they are in a special place in time which should be even more motivation to create something special.
August 14, 2015 at 1:14 am #28668znModeratorat all three levels, they’ve got at least one guy poised to become a superstar and possibly the best at his position
All true and well put.
Plus, IMO, IF McCleod and the CBs come through as promised, they do not have any real weak links. Not everyone is a potential star, but they are all various degrees of good. The CBs, McCleod, JL, Ayers, Long, Hayes, Sims, and who knows about Fairley and Barron.
August 14, 2015 at 2:47 am #28671InvaderRamModeratori think mcleod will be solid. i think chris and james will add a lot of veteran leadership and perspective. they know how lucky this defense is after all the years of mediocrity they’ve been through. i don’t believe they take anything for granted. jenkins i think will be motivated to get a new contract. joyner is still here as is trumaine. i think joyner especially will be rebound from a tough rookie season. a high character guy. losing gaines will hurt but they’ve got some depth there.
again. i’m fairly confident that quinn and donald can be the best at their positions. the wildcards are ogletree and mcdonald. mcdonald i am somewhat confident can come through. ogletree? i’m encouraged. those two are made for this defense. they can cover and blitz. they hit hard. they’re aggressive. instinctual. should be fun. i mean they were fun last year to watch when they were on.
August 21, 2015 at 1:09 pm #29070AgamemnonParticipantFox Sports’ Kevin Burkhardt: Rams’ Defense Has Potential to be NFL’s Best
Brendan Marks posted on August 21, 2015 11:25Fox Sports’ Kevin Burkhardt, who is calling the Rams-Titans preseason game on Sunday, joined The Ryan Kelley Morning After to discuss a number of topics surrounding the team
We typed up some notable excerpts from the interview, which you can listen to by clicking below:
On so much focus being paid to the Rams’ uncertain future instead of the on-the-field product:
“It’s weird, isn’t it? Just getting ready for this game on Sunday, every article online is not only about the Cowboys brawl, but that they’re practicing in Oxnard, Calif. and Rams fans were there. It’s very strange the way it’s going down, especially considering I think they could be pretty good. It’s definitely different. Hopefully they get off to a good start and people in St. Louis can have something to root for.”
On the angry St. Louis Rams fans:
“It’s easier to understand. I can tell you I know what kind of town it is. Would I go and spend my money if I knew the team was moving next year? I don’t know that I would. That’s a tough thing. I get it. If that’s the fervor there, I understand it.”
On chance a lot of fans don’t show up for Week 1 against the Seahawks:
“You don’t want week 1 feeling like a preseason game, that’s for sure. But they might get it. Especially if the Cardinals are playing, I don’t know if anybody’s going to care by that point.”
On how good he thinks the Rams’s defense will be:
“I think they have the potential to be (one of the best). I love what they’ve built. The average age of their defense is 25 years old. I like what they didn last year, and they came on in the second half. They’ve got to go out and do it. I love their defensive line and I think they’re going to be better. I think think their secondary, their safeties are really underrated. McCleod and McDonald are very solid players. They’ve got what they need back there. I think the pieces are there. They just have to go and do it.”
http://www.insidestl.com/insideSTLcom/RadioShows/FeatureInterviews/tabid/339/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/18737/Fox-Sports-Kevin-Burkhardt-Rams-Defense-Has-Potential-to-be-NFLs-Best.aspx
Here’s the complete segment: http://www.insidestlaudio.com/ITD_Audio/082115-Kevin Burkhardt.mp3 -
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