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July 6, 2018 at 9:45 pm #87890znModerator
You can double-team. You can shove into the middle. You can never truly eliminate Aaron Donald from a play. #Rams pic.twitter.com/8MyJU9HJxo
— Dusty (@DustyEvely) July 4, 2018
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Good golly. #Rams pic.twitter.com/BorB56jADt
— Dusty (@DustyEvely) July 4, 2018
July 8, 2018 at 10:56 pm #87929znModeratorfrom Ranking the NFL’s Most Unblockable Pass-Rushers
Doug Farrar
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2783511-ranking-the-nfls-most-unblockable-pass-rushers#slide12
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1. Aaron Donald, DL, Los Angeles Rams
Aaron Donald has made the Pro Bowl in each of his four seasons and has been named a first-team All-Pro for the past three. The only question is: What were the All-Pro voters thinking in 2014? Because Donald has been dominant since the day he hit the field in his rookie season, and he seems to get better every year.
Lost to a point amid the team’s coaching (and subsequent winning) issues under Jeff Fisher, Donald found his day in the sun in 2017. The Los Angeles Rams won the NFC West, and new defensive coordinator Wade Phillips maximized Donald with his creative blitz packages and multiple fronts.
The addition of defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh in free agency should make the 27-year-old even more unblockable than last season, when he amassed a league-leading 91 total pressures, per Sam Monson of Pro Football Focus—an astonishing feat for an interior defender.
The NFL’s version of a needle in a haystack? Try to find something Donald doesn’t do at a plus level.
You want power? Watch him come low off the snap and demolish a guard. You want quickness? Donald can blow past blocks as quickly as you see edge-rushers do it—his burst off the ball requires multiple replays to believe. You want hand technique? Donald can get past enemy blockers with rip and swim moves as well as anyone.
And against double-teams, the 6’1″, 280-pound Donald presents a combination of balance and strength that allows him to not only slice through blockers but also embarrass them on his way to the quarterback. It’s why he’s able to create pressure in any situation, in any defensive front, from any gap.
Not only is he the best defensive player in the league and the most unblockable, but Donald can also make a claim that no one else matches his consistent effectiveness from down to down.
July 12, 2018 at 8:41 am #88006znModeratorAaron Donald dominated his first career playoff game against the Falcons. He racked up 11 of the #Rams 18 QB pressures and earned the only #Elite (90.0+) grade by a DI in the playoffs on the last three years https://t.co/5mjvli6gvZ
— PFF LA Rams (@PFF_Rams) June 23, 2018
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Aaron Donald was the only player in the NFL to have 10+ straight games with an 80+ game grade in 2017! pic.twitter.com/RaiDnJgTVR
— Pro Football Focus (@PFF) June 23, 2018
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Aaron Donald was the only interior defender to finish in the top-5 among ALL defenders in combined run stops and QB pressures for 2017 #Rams #SettingTheBarSundays pic.twitter.com/tbRVryPBLS
— PFF LA Rams (@PFF_Rams) June 24, 2018
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Resetting the non-QB market
It’s been a foregone conclusion that Rams interior defensive lineman Aaron Donald and Raiders edge rusher Khalil Mack, who are scheduled to make $6.892 million and $13.846 million respectively this year on their fifth-year options, would eventually become charter members of the $20 million-per-year non-quarterback club. Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie’s timetable for a Mack extension has been the 2018 offseason ever since locking up quarterback Derek Carr long-term last summer. Les Snead, McKenzie’s counterpart with the Rams, has called a new deal for Donald a major priority.
The Raiders and Rams having sticker shock is the likely impediment with deals for the 2014 first-round picks. A modest increase over the current non-quarterback standard, which is Broncos linebacker Von Miller at $19,083,333 per year and $70 million in overall guarantees, may not be enough to end the stalemates. The substantial growth in quarterback salaries over the last year with the non-quarterback market remaining stagnant is a stumbling block. It is my understanding that restoring the traditional financial relationship between the highest-paid quarterback and non-quarterback which has existed under the current CBA is an important consideration to the players’ representatives. This would mean a contract averaging over $23 million per year with $85 million in guarantees where $65 million to $70 million is fully guaranteed at signing is needed in order to recreate the balance. Not surprisingly, there is reluctance to dramatically reset the non-quarterback market.
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July 12, 2018 at 11:51 pm #88054znModeratorSteve Palazzolo@PFF_Steve
Aaron Donald led the league with 91 pressures during the regular season in 2017.He also led the league with 11 pressures that were nullified by penalty.
July 13, 2018 at 12:33 am #88062znModeratorAaron Donald's 2017 season was so dominant that he racked up more pressure than the Rams current edge defenders have in their NFL careers so far! pic.twitter.com/S0xxGv3ctB
— Pro Football Focus (@PFF) May 27, 2018
July 13, 2018 at 12:43 am #88065znModeratorTypically edge rushers generate pressure at a far higher rate than interior rushers.
Aaron Donald last season didn't just lead the league in total pressures (91, in 14 games…), but tied for the best rate of pressure on a per-rush basis.
Freak.
— Sam Monson (@PFF_Sam) May 16, 2018
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PFF LA Rams@PFF_Rams
If you took away @AaronDonald97’s 13 QB hits, he’d still lead all interior defenders in total QB pressures by at least eightJuly 14, 2018 at 7:16 pm #88114znModeratorOnly two interior defenders held Elite (90.0+) pass rushing grades in 2017, one of them maxed out the grading scale #Rams https://t.co/Jb8bjtOokS
— PFF LA Rams (@PFF_Rams) July 14, 2018
July 16, 2018 at 5:05 pm #88161znModeratorDespite missing two games in 2017, Aaron Donald recorded 37.3 percent of the #Rams’ total QB Pressures.
See where the #Rams rank among all pass-rushing units heading into 2018 https://t.co/wftOGTBXAu
— PFF LA Rams (@PFF_Rams) July 16, 2018
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from PFF: NFL pass-rush rankings–All 32 team’s entering 2018
4. LOS ANGELES RAMS
PROJECTED STARTING LINEUP:Edge Defender: Matt Longacre, 73.8 overall grade
Defensive Interior: Aaron Donald, 99.7
Defensive Interior: Ndamukong Suh, 90.9
Edge Defender: Samson Ebukam, 70.0
Key Rotational Player: Michael Brockers, 83.1Pressure Percentage as a team, 2017: 38.5% (6th)
The Rams are the only team in the NFL who can boast a player like Donald. At just 27 years old, he has already racked up 41 sacks, 67 hits and 199 hurries in his career. Shaking off any pre-draft concerns about his size, Donald has been dominant since arriving in the NFL out of Pittsburgh as his skillset is too much for opposing teams to handle. While there are question marks on the edge with Longacre and Ekubam currently set to start despite having combined for just 50 total pressures so far in their careers, the Rams made a big addition on the defensive line in Suh. He arrives on a one-year deal, and while he isn’t quite as dominant as Donald, has still racked up 57 sacks, 87 hits and 289 hurries over his eight-year career.
July 17, 2018 at 4:46 pm #88213znModeratorAaron Donald (@AaronDonald97) stutter steps, swipes & steps through. Uses the head/shoulder bob, active hands & feet to bait the OL! #LARams pic.twitter.com/dHTpWerakq
— DLineVids (@DLineVids) July 16, 2018
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Aaron Donald watches film, a lot.@AaronDonald97 is one of the best in the game.
How do you get better? Do what the best do. #LARams pic.twitter.com/bNJ4nR0M2P
— DLineVids (@DLineVids) July 16, 2018
July 21, 2018 at 12:25 am #88338znModeratorfrom Football Outsiders@fboutsiders
LINK TO THE PDF: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/files/FOA2018-LARSample.pdf
In FOA 2017, we mentioned that Aaron Donald and Ndamukong Suh tied for the most defeats among interior linemen. They nearly pulled off the feat again in 2017—Suh was one defeat short. It remains to be seen how opposing guards and centers handle these two together; our best guess is “not well.” They won’t even get a break with the two rotating out; they were first and second in percentage of team snaps among defensive tackles last season. Donald also led all interior linemen in sacks, knockdowns, QB hits, and yards per play. … On passing downs, having Suh and Donald at the 3-tech charging at quarterbacks is going to be an interior pass rush that no other team in the league can match…. If there’s anything [Donald] does “poorly,” it’s stop the run, where his 86 percent stop rate was only 10th in the league. So, you know, don’t bother giving him a massive extension or anything. Suh has more snaps in the past eight years than any other defensive lineman, but only three percent of them have come at nose tackle. Wade Phillips’ scheme is more similar to 4-3 fronts than most 3-4 defenses, and Suh should have plenty of one-gap opportunities. The shift to a 3-4 helped Michael Brockers, who recorded a career high in tackles.
July 21, 2018 at 10:51 am #88351znModeratorfrom: https://overthecap.com/camp-holdouts-seeking-second-nfl-contract-not-successful/
Aaron Donald (Rams): 2018 Salary Cap Charge: $6,892,000
% of 2018 Team Cap: 3.85%
7/49 at 34DE
Fully Guaranteed Money: $6,892,000 – Fifth Year Option
Age – 27
Rams Cap Space: $2,206,614
It is not an exaggeration to say that if Aaron Donald ends up playing for his fifth-year option amount of $6,892,000 in 2018 it may be one of the more underpaid seasons for a premier player in NFL history following the standard four-year rookie deal (more on this later). The fifth-year option for a first-rounder outside of the top ten is calculated by taking the average of the 3rd through 25th highest salaries at the player’s position, in this case defensive tackle. Coming off Defensive Player of the Year honors in 2017, it still does not appear that Donald is going to receive the payday he deserves.
The Rams front office have shown with several offseason moves that they are certainly aware of how good they have it with Donald right now, and that they must capitalize before he gets a likely record-setting deal. With only 3.85% of the 2018 Team Cap allocated to Donald, and with Jared Goff, Todd Gurley and Marcus Peters still playing on their rookie deals, the Rams have gone all-in for 2018. The trade for cornerback Aqib Talib, who is set to make $8 million this season, bolsters a secondary that was exposed at times last year. The acquisition of Ndamukong Suh on a one year, $14 million deal creates one of the scariest defensive tackle combos of all time. The franchise tagging of Lamarcus Joyner to avoid negotiating a big, long-term payday for now… I could keep going. All of this is possible because of Donald’s fifth-year option.
Donald deserves a monster contract, a fact he is keenly aware of, but he may have to forego getting it now for a very legitimate chance at a Super Bowl ring instead. There is not much money left to dish out in LA at this point.
July 22, 2018 at 6:45 pm #88389znModeratorRams training camp primer: Aaron Donald likely to be missing as team reports https://t.co/Wm20jxWvGJ
— O.C. Register (@ocregister) July 22, 2018
July 27, 2018 at 9:30 am #88582znModeratorAaron Donald—IMO: There’s about 6-8 dudes in the #NFL that impact every single snap the Monday before the actual game. A week before. The way the offense game plans every single snap is impacted by Donald. Run of pass. Not many guys can say that. He knows his worth. #rams
— Dan Orlovsky (@danorlovsky7) July 26, 2018
July 27, 2018 at 1:50 pm #88599snowmanParticipantThe Rams have the seventh-most cap room in 2019, about $44 million, if I remember correctly. That includes Peters, Talib, Sullivan, Whitworth, Brockers, Cooks, Gurley and even Barron. Goff, Kupp, JJohnson and others still on their rookie contracts. All that cap room and we don’t have to part ways with an established veteran!
July 27, 2018 at 10:53 pm #88621znModeratorRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Ndamukong Suh said he’s looking forward to playing with Aaron Donald but hasn’t talked contracts with him. Suh: “He deserves more than I got, so I’ll leave it at that.” Suh signed for 6 years and $114 million with Miami in 2015.==
==Bend: Aaron Donald beats Peat, who chucks him upfield as QB steps up. Donald stays with it, turns the corner & sacks Brees #LARams #PassRush pic.twitter.com/2fQrYxX4RL
— DLineVids (@DLineVids) July 26, 2018
July 28, 2018 at 6:03 pm #88648JackPMillerParticipantI say split the difference, and give Donald a 4 year $92 million deal with 80 million guaranteed.
July 28, 2018 at 9:44 pm #88655znModeratorLindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Quote of the Day on Thursday came from defensive lineman Ndamukong Suh on Aaron Donald: “He’s a guy that I’ve watched from afar and hopefully have an opportunity sometime soon to get on the same field and be on the same side of the ball… I spoke to him at the very beginning of everything. I’ve obviously stayed out of contract stuff and things of that nature, it’s really none of my business. I wish him all the best, he deserves more than what I got, so I’ll kind of leave it at that.”
July 29, 2018 at 12:26 am #88662znModeratorJuly 29, 2018 at 1:14 am #88666AgamemnonParticipantJuly 31, 2018 at 11:15 am #88765znModeratorAugust 3, 2018 at 12:45 pm #88943znModerator.@rams @AaronDonald97 ruins another play; this time using his absurd quickness. #Baldybreakdowns pic.twitter.com/k8I0Hw1pC3
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) October 2, 2017
August 3, 2018 at 5:39 pm #88964znModeratorDonald had 25 less pressures than the second and third place QB Pressure producers among 3-4 DEs combined. That's a smaller gap than the one between him and second place (29) #LARams https://t.co/bJOlIdEXdP
— PFF LA Rams (@PFF_Rams) August 3, 2018
August 11, 2018 at 5:46 pm #89288znModeratorAaron Donald is the best player in football. @PFF_Sam and @PFF_Steve discuss just how good he is in one of the latest videos on our YouTube channel:https://t.co/rcCLeeRHp2
— Pro Football Focus (@PFF) August 11, 2018
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August 15, 2018 at 3:48 am #89443znModeratorJust a 14 second clip.
Ebukam on Donald.
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.@samysosa_3 knows what Aaron Donald means to the game. pic.twitter.com/ASgoVExgRU
— ESPNLosAngeles (@ESPNLosAngeles) August 12, 2018
August 15, 2018 at 9:59 am #89448znModeratorNFL Network’s Cynthia Frelund breaks down by the numbers just how much Los Angeles Rams defensive end Aaron Donald brings to the team, and how many season wins she believes he’s worth when he’s with the team.
https://sports.yahoo.com/game-theory-rams-miss-without-234500834.html
August 16, 2018 at 11:57 am #89495znModeratorfrom PFF: Aaron Donald is the exception to the rule
2017
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-teaching-tape-aaron-donald-is-the-exception-to-the-rule
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Since entering the NFL, Donald has not only held up versus double teams, he’s also been able to make plays despite them. As with anything in football there are multiple ways to get the same job done. A couple months back I wrote about how Damon Harrison dominated doubles by attacking the point man then throwing him to the side. Donald often takes a different approach. With his size/speed combination, he has three things he can use to his advantage: quickness, leverage and lack of a strike zone. This allows him to knife into the sweet spot of a double team and not let either linemen engage him cleanly. On the play below you can see how it’s done.
I was told Aaron Donald would not be able to hold up to double teams in the NFL pic.twitter.com/Ntke7pIeVI
— Mike Renner (@PFF_Mike) July 19, 2017
Donald gets skinny from the snap, making the right guard’s contact inconsequential. It also leaves the right tackle a tiny area to engage. Combine that with the speed that Donald comes off the ball, and the right tackle has little to no shot of actually getting Donald cleanly. Nearly the exact same thing happens again in the play below.
— Mike Renner (@PFF_Mike) July 19, 2017
This isn’t simply a case of highlight reel scouting though, Donald took only nine downgrades against double teams in the run game all season long. That’s a tiny bit more than one every two games. Compare that with the fact that Donald made 30 total stops against the run and you have one of the most complete run defenders in the game.
When we talk about Aaron Donald though, much like in the pre-draft process, his ability in run defense should be an afterthought. The man gets to quarterbacks more often, and with more speed, than any other interior defender in the NFL. And it’s not even close.
The same traits that Donald uses to his advantage against double teams are also his calling card as a pass rusher. He’s always the low man and with his speed and small stature, offensive linemen struggle mightily to land a meaningful punch. Because of all that, no one in the league has more decisive pressures.
Aaron Donald plays football with the difficulty set to easy pic.twitter.com/OEGQ0qnnAC
— Gordon McGuinness (@PFF_Gordon) May 3, 2017
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