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April 29, 2023 at 12:19 am #143647znModeratorApril 29, 2023 at 12:21 am #143648znModerator
The Rams made three picks on Friday night, all of which were along the offensive and defensive fronts. How did they do? https://t.co/vnrBNne6qz
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) April 29, 2023
April 29, 2023 at 1:27 am #143661znModeratorApril 29, 2023 at 1:45 am #143667znModeratorLos Angeles Rams NFL Draft picks 2023: Grades, fits and scouting reports
https://theathletic.com/4441665/2023/04/28/los-angeles-rams-draft-picks-predictions-fits-scouting/
The Los Angeles Rams enter the 2023 NFL Draft on April 27 with 11 picks over the three-day draft.
With their first pick, the Rams added guard Steve Avila out of TCU. After trading back twice and collecting a couple more picks, the Rams then added edge Byron Young from Tennessee with the 77th pick in the third round.
The Rams haven’t had a first-round pick since 2016 when they selected QB Jared Goff with the first overall pick. The Rams won the Super Bowl two years ago, but struggled last season — a bunch of injuries didn’t help — and missed the playoffs. Jalen Ramsey, Bobby Wagner, Leonard Floyd, A’Shawn Robinson and Allen Robinson are gone and that no doubts leaves needs at multiple positions. Edge rusher, cornerback and tight end, where starter Tyler Higbee is in the final year of his contract, are at the top of the list.Keep coming back here throughout the draft for analysis and grades for each Rams pick.
Round 2
No. 36: Steve Avila, G, TCU
How he fits
One of the select few interior linemen I had in the top 50 this draft, Steve Avila has the play strength and positional versatility to bolster an offensive line that was porous in pass protection and struggled to create lanes in the running game. Avila’s 330 pounds gives him a great anchor, and he’s got enough explosive potential and speed to execute in Sean McVay’s outside zone scheme. The Rams have plenty to retool this draft, and this was a smart pick in the early 30s. — Diante Lee
Dane Brugler’s analysis
A wide-based and powerful blocker, Avila collects a body count with his heavy hands to make early contact in pass pro or drive block in the run game. Though he stays controlled in his initial mirror, his countering footwork and hand work will be the keys to his next-level success. Overall, Avila needs to better understand his biomechanics to access his explosive power, but he plays with a strong base to anchor and control at either guard or center. He fits both zone and gap schemes and should be an immediate starter as an NFL rookie.
Round 3
No. 77: Byron Young, edge, Tennessee
How he fits
A 250-pound edge with 4.4 speed and terrific explosion, Young — who was out of football in 2018 before coming back to play at Georgia Military before winding up at Tennessee — is all gas off the line of scrimmage and can be a serious problem for slow-footed or stiff tackles. He plays with good instinct as a pass rusher and doesn’t get lost or run himself out of much. You’re not getting much vs. the run with him, he’s a pass rush specialist — and he could be longer. But that speed is no joke. — Nick Baumgardner
Dane Brugler’s analysis
Young is an explosive, hard charger and at his best on T/E stunts because of the balance and quickness to stay on his rush path. However, he is undersized and his role will be limited at the next level because of his deficiencies in closed areas. Overall, Young can be engulfed in the run game, and his rush stalls too quickly at contact, but his energy and pass-rush flashes lead to backfield plays. Though he has limitations in the run game, he has the potential to make a living as a glorified sub-rusher in the NFL.
No. 89: Kobie Turner, DT, Wake ForestHow he fits
Bit of a defensive line tweener, but also a powerhouse at 6-2, 293 with very good agility and active hands. He isn’t very long, but he’s in the backfield a lot — 43 1/2 tackles for loss and 18 sacks during his college career. Turner started at Richmond and transferred to Wake Forest for his final year and he’s not a refined pass rusher, but he’s a big-time competitor who can knock stuff around inside right now for the Rams. — Nick Baumgardner
Dane Brugler’s analysis
Turner is a tad undersized and is guilty of freelancing out of his run fits, but he plays with bouncy feet, forceful hands and affects the game with his relentless effort. He projects as a rotational three-technique in the NFL with potential to be more.
April 29, 2023 at 7:41 pm #143780znModeratorWe graded every pick the Rams made in the 2023 NFL draft. How would you grade their draft class? https://t.co/s309aOgfvH
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) April 29, 2023
April 29, 2023 at 10:49 pm #143830ZooeyModeratorI dunno.
I never know.
Looks to me like they did not reload at CB or WR or TE, places I thought might need reinforcement.
But. They know more about the guys already on the roster that we haven’t really seen, and the McSnead era has been good to me, including 2 SB appearances, and one SB championship, so I say, bring it on.
April 30, 2023 at 12:46 am #143848znModeratorRams 2023 NFL Draft takeaways: Beefed-up lines, a backup QB and overall hungry class
By Jourdan Rodrigue
https://theathletic.com/4471020/2023/04/29/los-angeles-rams-picks-draft-2/?source=emp_shared_article
ENCINO, Calif. — Fourteen picks later, the Rams’ 2023 draft is complete.
They mulled their options for a trade into the first round — five players (all on the offensive side of the ball) were considered depending on how the picks fell and the cost, according to a person with direct knowledge of the proceedings, and they “knocked on some doors” with teams to see what this would take. But ultimately they stayed at No. 36 and on Friday snagged an offensive lineman who sat at the very top of their board after they reset it ahead of the second round: TCU’s Steve Avila.
General manager Les Snead, head coach Sean McVay and their staff traded back multiple times to add a fourth-rounder (quarterback Stetson Bennett), then traded back a few more times to add picks in the fifth and sixth rounds (plus a late trade up for running back Zach Evans at No. 215). Their final haul skewed pretty evenly, as it should considering the holes on the current roster: seven defensive picks (including two of their three top-100 picks), six offensive picks and a punter.
Late into Saturday afternoon, some assistant coaches and scouts hung around, wheeling and dealing on the phone as they worked to bring in the rest of their undrafted free-agent class (the Rams usually announce those signings the following Sunday or Monday). The Rams IT and operations staff coiled up internet cables and packed away WiFi routers, and disassembled hundreds of other individual pieces required to make the “draft house” function as a crash-proof operation for three long days. Fourteen picks and it’s over.
Now they get to the football.
The picks
• Steve Avila, G/C, Round 2, No. 36
• Byron Young, OLB, Round 3, No. 77
• Kobie Turner, DL, Round 3, No. 89
• Stetson Bennett, QB, Round 4, No. 128
• Nick Hampton, OLB, Round 5, No. 161
• Warren McClendon, OT, Round 5, No. 174
• Davis Allen, TE, Round 5, No. 175
• Puka Nacua, WR, Round 5, No. 177
• Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson, CB, Round 6, No. 182
• Ochaun Mathis, OLB, Round 6, No. 189
• Zach Evans, RB, Round 6, No. 215
• Ethan Evans, P, Round 7, No. 223
• Jason Taylor II, S, Round 7, No. 234
• Desjuan Johnson, DL, Round 7, No. 259Best pick
Avila. Not only is he massive (6-foot-3 and 332 pounds) and a total road-grader in the run game, but he also didn’t give up a single sack in 2022 at TCU.
“Tough guy, I mean a large human being who moves very well for that size,” said Cedric Jones, who was the lead area scout on Avila. “A guy that is in the business of moving people.”
As a person, Avila draws rave reviews for his character and work ethic. He’s exactly the kind of player the Rams need to help stabilize a roster in disarray.
“He has a great personality, he can relate to a lot of different people,” Jones said. “You can put that guy in, he’s gonna come and do his job. We’re pretty confident in that.”
Pick who will make biggest immediate impact
In the short term, again it should be Avila. The Rams have options with him — they have a vacancy at guard, or they could play him at center. In the long-term outlook, I can see Avila taking over at center and having a solid career there.
Biggest surprise
Hodges-Tomlinson is a surprise, but only because his size profile (5-7 and 178 pounds) is smaller than they’ve generally targeted, even for a player who best projects as a nickel. His assertive playing style is right in their wheelhouse, however, and he’s going to be arriving in Los Angeles with a chip on his shoulder because he, the 2022 Jim Thorpe Award winner presented to the nation’s best collegiate defensive back, fell to the sixth round.
“Even though I’ve done as much as I’ve done … it seems to still go over others’ heads,” Hodges-Tomlinson said. “The Rams believed in me. So, I’m going to make sure that this pick right here is one of the greatest picks that they’ve ever had.”
Hodges-Tomlinson doesn’t lack confidence, and the Rams could use a presence like that roaming underneath their zone and jumping the quick routes that plagued them in 2022.
Biggest question mark
All of their pass rushers — Young, Hampton and Mathis — have some exciting qualities that project well as professionals. But all also come with questions. Young is blazing fast, the speed the Rams have needed off the edge especially with quarterbacks attacking their match-zone with a quick game. However, Young has to take several steps forward as a run defender. Hampton is a powerful player, and solid against the run and in pursuit but inconsistent as a pass rusher. Mathis has all of the athletic potential but is raw.
Remaining needs
The Rams still don’t have a kicker or a long snapper, but their undrafted free-agent (and possibly veteran free-agent) additions will take care of that. They could stand to add a cheap veteran along the defensive line, with so many of their draftees in need of development before they will be impact players. They also could use a little more cornerback depth. Hodges-Tomlinson is a fiery, competitive and assertive player who will immediately compete for time in the slot, but they’re still thin at outside cornerback.
Post-draft outlook
Much of this draft was, in a word, sensible. The Rams didn’t firefly toward shiny skill players with their earliest picks and instead beefed up both sides of their lines. They found a running back and a promising safety way later than they were projected to be drafted and now have a cheap backup quarterback on the roster (the pick point for Bennett has been argued by some fans, but there was an internal sense that other NFL teams were higher on him than they publicly let on so they went for it).
It’s not that they’re thinking Bennett will be their future starter, but more so that they believe he could win them some games and be a competitive leader should quarterback Matthew Stafford get hurt.
The Rams also spent many of their defensive picks either on players at premium positions (outside linebacker and cornerback) or on players who eventually will need to fill a role in unlocking star defensive tackle Aaron Donald.
I never like to judge a draft before the players even take the field. We don’t know what we don’t know! Still, the Rams’ methods this year, and the logic behind many of the picks, moved away from flashier picks and most filled needs with generally hungry, leadership-forward players who will hit a steep learning curve because they’ll have early playing time on such a depleted roster.
Many of the players the Rams selected are still on a developmental path. How they compete — and are coached — in practice will make all of the difference in the coming months.
April 30, 2023 at 2:00 am #143854znModeratorfrom https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/04/29/2023-nfl-draft-team-grades
Los Angeles Rams
Grade: B
Analysis: The Rams were smart to add depth to the offensive line after the starting unit was decimated by injuries in 2022. Avila could compete for a guard spot next year and possibly become the center of the future. L.A. followed with another smart decision, addressing its pass-rushing need by selecting Young, who could provide that after recording seven sacks last season. Turner lacks ideal size as a defensive tackle, but he’s a polished pass rusher and will get to learn from Aaron Donald. The Rams made noise on Day 3 after selecting Bennett to be the backup for Matthew Stafford. — G.M.
April 30, 2023 at 2:43 am #143870znModeratorPFF Rams Draft Grade A-
LOS ANGELES RAMSR2 (36): G Steve Avila, TCU
R3 (77): EDGE Byron Young, Tennessee
R3 (89): DI Kobie Turner, Wake Forest
R4 (128): QB Stetson Bennett, Georgia
R5 (174): OT Warren McClendon, Georgia
R5 (175): TE Davis Allen, Clemson
R5 (177): WR Puka Nacua, BYU
R5 (161): EDGE Nick Hampton, App State
R6 (182): CB Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson, TCU
R6 (189): EDGE Ochaun Mathis, Nebraska
R6 (215): RB Zach Evans, Ole Miss
R7 (223): P Ethan Evans, Wingate
R7 (234): S Jason Taylor II, Oklahoma
7 (259): DI Desjuan Johnson, ToledoDay 2: Avila was the model of consistency in pass protection during TCU’s Cinderella run in 2022. He averaged less than one pressure allowed per game last season and surrendered just one pressure to a vaunted Georgia defensive line in a blowout national championship loss.
The Rams have quickly become really thin along the defensive front around Aaron Donald. Young projects as a good fit in Los Angeles’ defense, and he’s one of the most explosive edge prospects in this class off the edge. He is by no means a finished product, as he falls into the 25th percentile in PFF pass-rush grade over the last two seasons, but he has traits worth betting on at this stage of the draft.
The Rams grab one of the most underrated players in the class. After producing at an elite level in the FCS for Richmond, Turner transferred to the Demon Deacons and earned a 92.2 PFF grade in 2022 — the second-best mark in the Power Five, behind only Georgia’s Jalen Carter. Turner plays with excellent leverage and possesses strong hands and quicks.
Day 3: Stetson Bennett comes off the board in the fourth round after helping Georgia win back-to-back national championships in college. He put up an elite 90.9 passing grade when he was kept clean from pressure, and he now lands in a situation where he can develop. This gives him one of the best chances to succeed in the NFL, whether as a future starter or backup.
McClendon wasn’t much of a run blocker in college, though he did grade far better on zone plays than gap plays. He did post 70.0-plus PFF grades in each of the past three seasons while seeing at least 595 snaps on the field in all three years. The intriguing developmental point here is that he recorded an 82.1 PFF pass-blocking grade in 2022.
A solid athlete on the edge at just 236 pounds, Hampton is likely ticketed for a rotational pass-rusher role. He’ll need to add 10-15 pounds even for that role. He is explosive enough to disrupt quarterbacks though, as evidenced by his three sacks and 82.8 grade against North Carolina this past year.
The Rams needed reinforcements in their secondary, and they’ve done well to get the most out of smaller defensive backs like Darious Williams over the years, and Tomlinson can hopefully be the next in line, falling because of his 5-foot-8 stature. The TCU product earned a 78.4 grade in 2022 with five interceptions and has three years of starting experience, projecting as a solid slot option for the Rams. He plays like he’s 6-foot-2 and if he can overcome the lack of size in a zone-heavy Rams scheme this could be a steal.
Mathis is an experienced prospect with four seasons with at least 500 defensive snaps in his college career — three at TCU and one after transferring to Nebraska. Mathis is a long edge rusher at 6-foot-5 with 35-plus inch arms and is coming off a career-high 77.6 PFF pass-rushing grade in 2022.
A former five-star recruit, Evans never quite lived up to that billing in college. He was still productive, though, and earned an 84.5 PFF rushing grade on gap plays in 2022. He averaged at least 6.5 yards per carry in each of the past three seasons.
Evans is a Division II punter, although he was the top punter on PFF’s big board.
This is the stage of the draft where it makes sense to take chances on athletes. Taylor fits into that bucket with 90th percentile results or higher in the 10-yard split, vertical jump and broad jump as a 204-pound safety. And Taylor pairs that with a decent grading profile, including 72.0-plus PFF grades in each of the past two seasons as a starter.
Mr. Irrelevant of the 2023 NFL Draft! Johnson was on the field for 726 snaps in 2022 and produced PFF pass-rushing and run-defense grades above 85.0. A little undersized, he won 17.6% of his pass-rushing attempts and registered a tackle resulting in a defensive stop on 8.7% of his snaps in run defense.
DRAFT GRADE: A-
April 30, 2023 at 1:45 pm #143904znModeratorThe #Rams were another high volume team this year, and most of their picks were top tier #RAS guys. The few that weren't were still above average. pic.twitter.com/GmVcqR8k3V
— Kent Lee Platte (@MathBomb) April 29, 2023
April 30, 2023 at 2:40 pm #143905znModeratorfrom https://theramswire.usatoday.com/lists/rams-nfl-draft-grades-experts-2023-class-report-card/
Touchdown Wire – Grade: B
Doug Farrar liked what the Rams did at the top of the draft, particularly with their first pick, Steve Avila. He questioned the selection of Stetson Bennett in the fourth round, however, which many fans and analysts have done, too.
I love the addition of Steve Avila up top — he’s a natural power blocker who will work his way into that depleted offensive line right away. And Tennessee’s Byron Young is a hybrid-sized (6-foot-2, 250-pound) rusher who had nine sacks and 42 total pressures last season. The fifth round was a value round for the Rams — Warren McClendon Jr. was a personal favorite as was Puka Nacua, Davis Allen should thrive in Sean McVay’s offense, and if Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson was six feet tall and weighed 200 pounds, we’d have been talking about him as we were talking about Devon Witherspoon, Christian Gonzalez, and Joey Porter Jr.
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NFL.com – Grade: A-Chad Reuter wasn’t as critical of the Bennett pick, saying he has the tools to potentially replace Matthew Stafford after he retires – though he needs to do some maturing, too.
He also liked the selections of Avila and Taylor in the first three rounds, but he believes Kobie Turner went earlier than expected.
Analysis: Super Bowl-winning quarterback Matthew Stafford functioned as the Rams’ first-round pick again this year. The team added more picks through various Day 2 trades. Adding Avila bolsters the interior of the offensive line, while Young’s closing ability gives him a chance to become an effective edge defender. Turner was a productive player at Richmond and Wake Forest but went a bit earlier than projected.
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Pro Football Focus – Grade: A-Pro Football Focus noted that Young isn’t a finished product as a pass rusher, but the potential is there for him to become a quality player. Turner got some good recognition from the analytics site, which viewed him as one of the most underrated players in the entire draft.
The Rams grab one of the most underrated players in the class. After producing at an elite level in the FCS for Richmond, Turner transferred to the Demon Deacons and earned a 92.2 PFF grade in 2022 — the second-best mark in the Power Five, behind only Georgia’s Jalen Carter. Turner plays with excellent leverage and possesses strong hands and quicks.
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Sports Illustrated – Grade: BGilbert Manzano, who used to cover the Rams, gave them a grade of ‘B’. He views Avila as a potential starter at guard next season and the team’s center of the future, while Young fills a clear need at edge rusher. Turner should get better after learning from Aaron Donald, too.
The Rams were smart to add depth to the offensive line after the starting unit was decimated by injuries in 2022. Avila could compete for a guard spot next year and possibly become the center of the future. L.A. followed with another smart decision, addressing its pass-rushing need by selecting Young, who could provide that after recording seven sacks last season. Turner lacks ideal size as a defensive tackle, but he’s a polished pass rusher and will get to learn from Aaron Donald. The Rams made noise on Day 3 after selecting Bennett to be the backup for Matthew Stafford. — G.M.
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The Ringer – Grade: C+Danny Kelly noted how large the Rams’ draft class is, consisting of 14 total players. The quantity is there, but he doesn’t believe they found a star in this class. And while Byron Young is an older prospect, Kelly sees him as “an athletic marvel.”
I’m also a fan of day-three role players Clemson tight end Davis Allen, BYU pass-catcher Puka Nakua, and Ole Miss running back Zach Evans, the latter of whom could push Cam Akers for carries early on. This wasn’t the flashiest group of players for the Rams, and I’m not sure I see a star. But L.A.’s got to rebuild the depth of their roster—and this was a solid start.
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FOX Sports – Grade: BEric D. Williams gave the Rams a ‘B’ for their class, noting that Bennett should be a “solid backup” to Stafford. Young will help replace Leonard Floyd on the edge, and Avila should shore up an offensive line that turned into a revolving door last season.
The Rams had several needs to fill, particularly on the defensive side, where Aaron Donald is one of the few starters sticking around. Tennessee edge rusher Byron Young should help replace the production left vacant by the departure of Leonard Floyd. TCU product Steve Avila helps bolster an offense that started 14 different offensive-line combinations in 2022. Georgia quarterback Stetson Bennett should be a solid backup for the aging Matthew Stafford.
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April 30, 2023 at 10:23 pm #143912znModeratoralyoshamucci
It’s rare that we have so many … so this will likely be newish kind of feature that may not happen again.
When I cover the players, I’m going to do it by my rankings, so the rounds are irrelevant and whether they were drafted or UDFA will be also.
I’m going to try to make it interesting, as well.I have one beef. And this is likely not a surprise, so I’ll just get it out of the way. It is so rare that you have a CB heavy draft, coming out with ZERO boundary CBs is a sin. There was starter caliber talent into the 7th round. Everything else I can deal with. So … my guess is that they’re working some kind of trade for a star level player on his rookie contract during the regular season.
Steve Avila, G, TCU (#38, early second) I watched TCU probably more than any other team last year … really by chance. I get a lot of Big 12 here for some reason. He’s a day 1 starter and likely a 10 year pro. He could be a pro bowler based on what I’ve seen. I rarely rate OGs higher than this because they rarely deserve to be in Quentin Nelson company … I had Creed Humphrey in this area, as well as Kenyon Green. I did not expect him for us, because we are usually a “light on their feet” scheme team. He is an anchor and a bulldozer. Does he move well enough? Yes. Most importantly, I think this is about interior pass pressure and helping Allen/Shelton and Noteboom. Having a weak link between two other weaker links was a recipe for disaster. this ends that. Great pick, albeit unexpected. Oh and note … I don’t like him at center. I think OC demands more left to right movement…I think regardless of who is at center the left guard needs to be a wall. Avila is a wall of angry. He’s a guard.
Byron Young, EDGE, Tennessee (#75, late 2nd) Juco transfer, hard worker, and athletic freak. Also, from what I’ve heard so far, no injuries. He is good and still has lots of room to grow. He held his own at 245 as a DE in the SEC, which is no easy feat. Just really happy to have him. I’m sure we’ll start on a rotation with Keir Thomas but he should lock this spot down pretty quickly. the floor is high, the ceiling is high. Great pick.
Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson, CB, TCU (early-mid 3rd) Most have called this a steal, so that’s not news. I had him as a 3rd rounder. Pretty sure dead had him a little higher. We drafted Lamarcus Joyner in the early second. This kid is very similar. Again, I watched a lot of TCU. He roamed the middle of the field. He will blow you up. He’s not afraid of anyone. Also, he was the Thorpe award winner. I was surprised at that, but given the breadth of his work it was due. My “guess” would be that Durant and Rochelle play outside and they give him the middle of the field on passing downs.
Quindell Johnson, S, Memphis (Late 3rd early 4th) One of my top combine snubs (with Karl Brooks and a few others). 4.55 40 guy but with a 4.24 ss … so he can move around. Guy was all conference and team captain, set up the defense. Memphis had a rough year, so he got passed over. He hits, plays sound mental football, and leads. 225 solo tackles in his career ranking 6th for his team. Had 4 INTs and 2 FFs last year. If Lake or Yeast don’t seriously shine, he will take a job by 2024.
Puka Nacua, WR, BYU (Late 3rd early 4th) So … this freaking guy. Thing I want to say about him first, is that during the guantlet drill, the announcers are on everyone to “run full speed” … this year 2 guys did. Iosevas and Nacua. Nacua looked like he was racing first and catching footballs second. Then the announcers went into where he was training … with TJ Housmandzadeh. they then went on for a few minutes about how his training and vetting was the most respected place for WRs to train and that NFL guys trusted TJ if they vouched for a kid. So, that’s the good.
He is the youngest of 4 sports brothers. Samson is the only one who sniffed the next level. My grade on him would be higher if I thought he could stay healthy. He’s tough as nails so he’s always getting dinged and then returning too early and coming in and out of games. If he’s healthy? He’s a solid 2 or 3 than can go off if you’re not careful defending him. Jefferson will get a real chance this year to be a solid #2 option. If not then we’ll likely draft someone high next year and Puca will be the 3rd going forward.Davis Allen, TE, Clemson (Late 4th) To start draft season, DJ’s first top 50 had Davis in it. He passes my TE tests, super angry, red zone leaping, and furious blocking. He can work the seam. If he’d had steady QB play in a year without this TE class he could have easily gone in the third. He doesn’t have great long speed, which is weird, but honestly … I think he just runs funny. He’s got a 38.5 vert and 10-6 broad, so the explosion is there. 1.59 split. Make sure you look at the vert. Legit 6-6 … 32.5 inch arms, 10 inch hands … and that leaping ability (that he definitely uses). I like him blocking most downs, and I like him catching TDs in the red zone. He and Hunter Long will be a good tandem next year. This year I figure we’ll see more Long.
Tanner Ingle, S, NC State (Would have been late 4th, I had him going back to school) This one will be a bit of a surprise because I thought he went back to school. Another mighty mouse, and no testing #s. 5-10 179. For his size, he hit harder than anyone else in college last year. He was first team ACC in 21′ and 2nd team in 22′ … He won’t be a threat to be stolen so I doubt he makes the 53. Great ST and emergency guy who will compete every single play. Oh a note, likely why he wasn’t drafted? Comically short arms. Like 29 inches. I didn’t know that and might have listed him lower had I known that.
Tiyon Evans, RB, Louisville (early 5th) This kid for me was a surprise entry … I thought he could be a second or third rounder if he stayed. Dimensions matter … a 4.52 is good. a 4.52 at 5-9 225 is special. 20 reps. He is NOT agile and might not even have the best vision. But he will run through people and break tackles. He is not MJD, but he has similar dimensions and will make for a nice change of pace with powerful legs.
Warren McClendon, OT, Georgia (Early 5th) Figured him for an OG … the Georgia line is mean. They have an attitude and they play nasty. I don’t have much on him because projecting to OG is a bit iffy for me. I “assume” he can do it. If so he could likely be our next Tremayne Anchrum … with a little more size.
Jason Taylor II, S, Oklahoma State (Mid 5th) There are 3 defenses in the big 12 that simply get it done. OKst is one of those (Baylor, Iowa st). So anyone from there you can trust to play sound football. Taylor has a tackling issue that, in my opinion, is from over aggression and excitement. He’s a good backup.
Nick Hampton, EDGE, Appalachian State (Mid 5th) Guy like Herbig. He should be too small to do what he does. He just wins and impacts plays over and over, and there’s a huge difference when he’s not on the field. Obviously a special teamer to start and maybe situational extra rusher… but the difference between he and guys like Hardy is the level of competition. He had a monster game against UNC and they put out pro linemen every year.
Zach Evans, RB, Ole Miss (late 5th) Dinged for injuries. Getting him AND Tiyon Evans is really good. If Akers goes down I still trust the stable overall. Evans was the top recruit coming out of high school (higher than Bijan) … my issue is simple. Yes, he’s had injuries. But he’s also never been the best RB on his team. Kendre Miller took his job, and this year (even though he ran well) Judkins the freshman phenom was the main back. I’m curious to see how heavy the chip on his shoulder is.
Desjuan Johnson, EDGE, Toledo (mid 6th) This to me, is like a Ernest Brown IV pick. He’s not fast, he’s gonna play on the D line. That said, I like him better than Brown IV. He has upside to some rushing and is very strong. Maybe makes the team? I doubt he’ll be sought after if he’s cut. He’s our type of player …
Kobie Turner, DT, Wake Forest (Late 6th ) (Rich trans 3 time all D2) 31 reps 7.09 3 cone interestingly enough, I watched a Wake game very late (like late February or early March) and he caught my eye and I was curious why he wasn’t at the combine. The reps and 3 cone are insane. So he can likely do exactly what we want our DE to do. Was 3rd round too high? Objectively yes, but that doesn’t mean someone else wouldn’t have taken him objectively too high. I will forever lament the loss of the CBs that were there, period.
Xavier Smith, WR, Florida A&M (bottom of draft as a returner) This is your returner. He’ll make the team. Saw him at the HBCU game and they just raved and raved about him. Watched him and agreed, super twitchy, fearless, agile and fast. Built to return kicks. Actually, solid WR skills, too. Realllllllly twitchy. 4.48 with a 1.52 split and 4.16 ss and 37 vert.
Here we get to people I didn’t really have as draftable.
Jaiden Woodbey, S, Boston College 6-0 222 Sr. 4.14 ss 35 v 6.97 3 cone 21 reps He’s a LB in our system. Travin Howard replacement.
Chris Dunn, K, NC State The game I watched late was Wake NCst lol. So I heard his name and watched him kick. He was smooth.
Jordan Jones, CB, Rhode Island Looked him up late in the process after we met with him. 5-10 186 4.50 40 but big explosion numbers. Big Vert Big Broad. Good 3 cone. I haven’t looked up tape.
Stetson Bennett, QB, Georgia I didn’t have him as draftable, even though I really like his toughness and leadership. This is where a guy gets dinged because he simply had superior weapons. Bowers may grade out as the best TE I’ve ever graded next year. the WRs were tough as nails and talented, and the Oline was 5 NFL players. So … I’ve got to see him face more legit adversity than one game …
Rashad Torrence II, S, Florida I was harsh on Torrence for his horrific 40 time and so was the NFL. He plays well, just might not be well enough to overcome his foot speed. I think I’m honestly harder on Gators because I grew up in Florida.
Ochaun Mathis, EDGE, Nebraska So … he flashed, then disappeared, then showed up kinda after transferring … I was really dissatisfied with his career impact.
DeAndre Square, LB, Kentucky … unspectacular businesslike LB. Knowing how low these guys get pushed down if you’re under 230 you have to run low 4.6s or better or there are 15 guys automatically ahead of you.
Mike McCallister, C, Youngstown State 6-2 305 5.10 40 with about a 30 vert and 7.6 3 cone, that’s pretty good. Apparently there’s a star RB on the team and the O line was solid in front of him.
Ryan Smenda, LB, Wake 4.74 40. 6.88 3 cone 4.38 ss poor burst #s. So not an explosive guy but a fluid mover … again, unspectacular businesslike LB.
Tyon Davis, CB, Tulsa Slot only … no deep speed but a 7.03 cone and 4.2 ss … seems likely to be fodder.
Sean Maginn, G, Wake Forest 6-3 298 7.5 3 cone … 27 reps … we went at Wake guys this year. they ahd a good running attack without a big name runner.
Christian Sims, TE/FB, Bowling Green Listed as a FB where I scout … 6-2 243 4.76 40 … but is an explosive athlete. 10-5 broad, 36 vert 7.25 3 cone … I have seen bits of him, but no idea where he shakes out as a special teams player.
Timarcus Davis, DB, Arizona State Numbers guy … 5-11 180 41 vert 11-2 broad 4.5 40 6.65 3 cone 4.12 ss. I didn’t have him listed. Number suggest special teams.
Kelechi Anyalebechi, LB, Incarnate Word 5-11 230 4.69 40 … 38 vert 7.01 3 cone that’s really good. I have no tape.
Collin Duncan, SS, Mississippi State 6-0 197 41 vert 10–10 broad. Special teams. 4.7 40.
May 1, 2023 at 10:26 am #143923znModerator69RamFan
With 14 players selected, I’m happy with our draft choices we made.
I like our backup QB Bennett, he has the ability to throw 50yds deep, has accuracy and has escape run abilities. He’s mature and should be soaking up Staff’s brain as much as he can.
On the defensive side, Young/OLB, should be a starter. I think he could average 10 sacks.
And I’m hoping that Turner/DT can be up to par and be part of rotation too.
As for our OL, I like both picks and McC should play LG and Bruss(coming off injury) at RG, both need to gain 10 to 15lbs each of muscle in the weight room,
with Avila at C, that should be a massive and mobile OL.Also, on our P/Ethan Evans
I think we found a gem, looking at his video, the kid has a leg, 60yds easy.
He seems like another Johnny Hekker, He can make those corner kicks.
To top it off, Evans has a leg for KO to kick it out the end zone. So by getting an accurate K/Christopher Dunn with 40+ range, His high being a 53yd.
I feel we’re in good shape.
May 1, 2023 at 10:57 am #143925znModeratorMel Kiper Jr. gave the Rams a ‘B’ for their draft class but he saw a lot of reaches by Los Angeles https://t.co/k6lXJrEl8A
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) May 1, 2023
May 1, 2023 at 7:08 pm #143952znModeratorLMU93
Just personal opinions on how this Draft played out and the path ahead…
Overall, I give Snead, McVay and the scouting department credit. To me the initial judging of a Draft can really only come from estimating value picks vs. reaches. And overall I think the Rams mostly drafted value. It was more of a common sense, “safe” Draft than they’ve had in a while, seemed to have more logic (and maybe humility?) to it than in some past years. There could be no WTF picks with their top few selections and they needed most of their day 3 picks to be guys that were largely anticipated to go earlier. They did that. And I think they largely drafted very good athletes with high motors and good work ethics. That counts for a lot.
As Jourdan has said, in recent years when the roster was more loaded they were more willing to be bold (and a little arrogant?), taking fliers on guys and even drafting some mid-round picks purely for special teams, etc. And they realized they couldn’t do that this year. I give Snead credit for seeming to get just how much the roster needed. All along I had wanted them to end up with fewer and higher (top 150-160) picks vs. quantity. And really, they were able to end up doing both. 7 in the top 175 and 14 selections overall.
Of course, no matter what not all these guys will work out. But most have the ability and experience to at least provide depth. More will contribute as rookies than usual. And in the longer term it will benefit the team as they ‘bridge’ this year to 2024 when they have all their draft capital back and a decent amount of cap space.
Thoughts on some specific picks and positions:
– I didn’t look at Avila at all because I just never thought they’d take an OG like him at 36. I’m so pleasantly surprised. He is a day one starter at LG and, as others have written, might settle in there for 10 years. Exactly the type of attitude OL the team needs. Would fit really well in my opinion in between Jackson at LT and Shelton at C. He’s the type of pick that will have a positive cascade effect on the OL as a whole.
– Young at 77 is the type of guy that can come in and play situationally from day one while he learns the larger game and can grow into more of an every-down role in 2024. No matter who they drafted on the edge- even if they’d taken one at 36 (which was what I expected), they are riding at least somewhat on the development of guys like Hoecht, Hardy and Keir Thomas. For them to get better QB pressure this year at least 2 of those 3 guys have to take notable steps forward. It’s a big question mark entering camp.
– I know nothing about the Wake Forest DT, Turner, other than thinking he could maybe be used to spell Donald 10 snaps/game and help them based on pure motor and effort while he learns the position. Maybe their biggest reach pick? And maybe never more than a rotational DL. But you need those guys too. I really thought TE Tucker Kraft was going to be the pick there (who went the very next selection to Green Bay…). Or the CB Ringo.
– Like others, I was really disappointed when they took Bennett at QB, both for the value itself and given who else was on the board. I thought he could have been taken later until those other 5 later round QBs also went off the board in the next 30+ picks. A lot of us wanted to take a QB around #180-190 overall but that just wasn’t going to happen. Once all those other QBs came off the board it became pretty clear that the idea of waiting on a QB until the 6th round just would not have been feasible. Maybe it was group-think and just one of those runs on a position, but the Rams were one of 6 teams to take QBs between 127 and 160 overall and all six were guys projected to go later. I remain skeptical Bennett can be the QB2 this year. But that seems like their plan. His average arm strength doesn’t matter at all to me. He’s played on the biggest stages against top-level competition. 32 starts which is a big plus for QBs. If his poise, decision making and accuracy are good then his arm strength is just fine. Hopefully he’s mature and a good teammate. Seems like that’s a bit murky?
– If they reached on Turner I thought Hampton helped make up for it by being a pretty good value selection. So was the TE Davis who I think joins Hunter Long as their TE2 and TE3 and ends up with Hopkins cut (saving them $1M) in late August.
– Taylor was probably my favorite day 3 value pick of theirs. He could have gone 50 picks earlier. The Rams seem to feel good about Fuller this year and with Yeast and Lake joining him it can allow Taylor to develop as a rookie and maybe take a bigger role in 2024.
– Hodges-Tomlinson and Evans are intriguing. Each could carve out a year one role for themselves. Or not. Given the CB situation I think there is more than a few people crossing fingers that Tomlinson can. Being related to an all-time great NFL player like LT can only help as far as knowing how to prepare and work. But the Rams CB situation? I like Durant. He got a lot of work the final 6 games and held his own. He’ll be ready for a full-time starting role. But otherwise right now they are counting on two of the three between Rochell, Kendrick and Hodges-Tomlinson to be able to handle starting duties. I like Pleasant a lot as their DBs coach, but that’s asking a lot….
– I know nothing about the punter other than thinking it was a good spot to take one and I’m sure they did diligence on a lot of them. If you’re going to draft a Division II guy punter is a good place to do it. He was also PFF’s top-rated punter.
– I know nothing about Nacua either but it seems like his only real issue is health. If he can stay healthy, great, he could grow into a depth role. He’s athletic and competitive and competing for a WR6 spot this year. Maybe he can learn some things from Kupp. Mathis and Johnson weren’t inspiring picks but we’ll see.
Looking ahead, I think my biggest 2023 concerns are at Edge rusher and CB. They really have to hope a surprise emerges at each spot very early on or the defense will have some growing pains. A healthy Fuller would really help the secondary. And I actually think the DL depth is pretty good. I’m also skeptical they have anyone capable of playing next to Jones at ILB on the roster.
I like what they come into 2023 with at RB, WR and TE. And the Avila addition is again a real positive for an OL that needed both talent and attitude infused in a hurry. They need a strong running game and Avila can obviously help there from day one. Adding him also likely allows Noteboom some breathing room in his recovery. If someone wins the RG spot (not just by default) between Bruss and Anchrum I think things are looking steadier there overall.
Looks like Bennett will likely take 80% of the snaps in preseason which, if he’s going to enter the season as QB2, is a must. Let’s hope he takes advantage of the opportunity.
This Draft helped them- both for 2023 and beyond. I have no doubts there. Enough to make a playoff run this year? Tough to say but the NFC is not nearly as daunting as the AFC. Seattle did seem to solidify their status as NFC West favorites though.
They’re thinner and more questionable at some spots than others. The kicker and punter spots are still very much TBD which isn’t great. But in the end if Stafford, Kupp and Donald are healthy and the OL overall is healthier they can make things happen while the very young team around them develops. And they will enter 2024 with more than adequate salary cap room/flexibility and all their Draft ammo.
By the way, Arizona could very well end up with two of the top five picks in 2024 (and 3 of the top 37).
May 1, 2023 at 7:17 pm #143953znModeratorDeadpoolI really wanted a boundry CB, and they were there for the taking all over the place. They just never grabbed one. I also had Branch as my #1 player on the Rams stacked board. I am really confused by his slide. I’m assuming its the fact he didn’t show out at the combine and they are worried about his play strength and fit. If he is a CB, he is slow. I really thought the Rams put blinders on with the Avila pick. Take the BPA, you have holes literally everywhere. Don’t force a OL pick. That said. I love the fact that they got a stud OL. Finally, after years of me trying in mocks, they do it in a year I don’t mock them one.On to the picks:
2.36 Steve Avila – IOL – TCU – 6′-3” 332 lbs. – A power blocking OG with an incredible anchor. Could he be an OC? Maybe. Lacks movement skills. OG power blocking scheme.
My 71st overall prospect
My 6th overall IOL.
My #2 overall pure OG (Mauch and Skoronski are OTs probably moving to OG)Interesting pick with Torrence, Mauch, Schmitz and Tippmann available, as well as Branch, Cam Smith and a ton of edge rushers. I didn’t have Avila on my Rams Stacked Draft Board because I didn’t think he was a fit. I like him in Gap schemes or inside zone schemes. Rams must think otherwise, and I differ to them. If he doesn’t pan out, its due to scheme fit or some weird injury you can never predict. He is a powerhouse with a tremendous anchor, vice grip hands and good length. Seems intelligent, but at times is slow to see stunts and twists. He is unlike any IOL the Rams have had in years. The IOL just got bigger, stronger and nastier. I love it. I agree with Alyo that I don’t think he is an OC. TCU agreed, because they moved him from OC to OG when they brought in a transfer to man the pivot.
3.77 Byron Young – EDGE – Tenn. – 6’-2” 250 lbs. – Fluid, fast with a hot motor. He’s a handful from the snap. Needs to get stronger. 24 years old. 34 OLB
My 76th overall prospect
My 13th rated Edge (some of those were 43 DEs and not fits at all)
My 58th ranked player on my Rams Stacked boardFrom Mock 2.0:
Byron Young – EDGE – Tenn. – 6′-2″ 250 lbs. – This guy just competes. He is super bendy and athletic. A bit undersized, but consistently finds his way to the QB. Seems like a super coachable kid as he has elevated himself from JuCo football to Tenn. Thats not by accident. Senior Bowl standout, so that matters to the Rams. If the Rams go EDGE in round 2, they don’t go with Young in round 3. If they don’t, he is very much still in the conversation.I obviously love this pick. He just turned 25, so a tad older, but IDC. He plays early and often. I agree with Alyo, high floor, high ceiling. He was the last of my real top flight edge rushers.
3.89 Kobie Turner – DL – Wake Forest – 6′-2″ 288 lbs.
He as unranked across all my boards. He fit into the 7th round group but didn’t make my board. I really thought this was a weird pick. With a more athletic, more accomplished DL in Adetomiwa Adebawore on the board, he made more sense. There has to be a reason he slid. I’m assuming its positional fit. Turner is 3 double double animal style in and out burgers from 295, so he can work inside and out. Tough, powerful and a bigtime motor. He lacks the length to disengage at times. He had modest production, but I think he is an arrow up type of player. Word is he was climbing boards, but I work with what I have and when I saw him, he was pedestrian. I must have caught him on an off game. A reach? IMO yes. Was it a big reach? Probably not.
4.128 Stetson Bennett – QB – Georgia – 5′-11” 192 lbs. – Ok arm, Undersized, mobile, not a dual threat. Just a gamer, can’t count him out.
My 256th overall prospect
My 14th ranked QB
Unranked on my Rams Stacked BoardNot a fan of this pick. He is undersized. He got a public intoxication and then “you know who I am” to the cops. He skipped the Senior Bowl when he had plenty to prove yet. He needs to get his head right or he won’t last long. Beyond that stuff. he has a good enough arm. He is accurate, very mechanically sound. Can manipulate the pocket. His size may be an issue, but Georgia has always had huge OLs, so I’m not so worried about that. His size and ability to withstand punishment worries me more (same goes for Haener and Young TBH) It’ll be interesting to see how he does when not surrounded by an allstar cast. The run on mid tier QBs started with Haener right in front of the Rams, then Stetson, DT-R, Tune, Clifford (yuck) and Hall. So I doubt the Rams were getting him in the 6th round, let alone the 7th. So even though he was a reach on my board, he wasn’t a reach in the draft IMO. I preferred Tune and his upside, but Bennett should work as a career backup with spot starter upside, and maybe as a starter for a year or 2 until the Rams get their next franchise QB.
5.161 Nick Hampton – EDGE – App. State – 6′-2” 236 lbs. – Bendy, fluid and has an explosive first step. Run defense is not his forte due to size. 34 OLB.
My 134th overall prospect
My 23rd ranked EDGE
My 106th ranked player on my Rams Stacked BoardLove the value of this pick. He will start as a situational pass rusher until he gets bigger and stronger. He is an absolute tasmanian devil on the field. He’s an absolute playmaker. He’s long with a decent pass rush arsenal. And a red hot motor. Looks like a great STer early. Run defense lacks, thats why he is a situational pass rush specialist. But those types are in demand. This is where the Rams got back on track IMO (at least according to my board)
5. 174 Warren McClendon – OT – Georgia – 6′-4” 306 lbs. – Good/ not great size, aggressive, good mover with good power. Not a technician. RT in any scheme.
My 153rd overall prospect
My 13th ranked OT (4th RT)
My 121st ranked player on my Rams Stacked BoardAgain, great value. Did I hear they want him as an OC? That’s interesting. I wouldn’t discount him as a RT. And Havs eventual replacement. He was the alpha dog and a line that had 5 studs (their OC is went back to school, but is a highly ranked OC).He’ a hard worker, intelligent and a technician. Needs to add strength and maybe some good weight (depending on where they slot him on the line. I think he can play OC, RG or RT and his floor is super sub, active on gamedays not too far down the road.
5.175 Davis Allen – TE – Clemson – 6′-6” 245 lbs. – Clemson played him everywhere or he’s versatile, smooth athlete with good hands. I’d can him an average blocker for the position.
My 103rd overall prospect
My 7th ranked TE
My 82nd ranked player on my Rams Stacked BoardSuper value and personally the most under rated TE in a stacked TE draft. Rare TE with great size with amazing ball skills that can actually block well for the position. If the ball is coming his way, its his. He isn’t a dynamic TE, but he catches everything, is a great blocker and a really good redzone threat. He is completely different from every other TE the Rams have had in a while. He could be TE 2 early on. Esp in 12 personnel. His QB play was spotty at best, so Stafford could really elevate his game.
5.177 Puka Nacua – WR – BYU – 6′-2” 201 lbs. – Physical, as a pass catcher and blocker. Also has linear speed. Not a good route runner. Possession WR.
My 172nd overall prospect
My 26th ranked WR
My 137th ranked player on my Rams Stacked BoardSo let me get this straight. I ranked him 172, and he went 177…very cool. I think he is a steal IF he can stay healthy. He has been dinged constantly. Health is the key factor in whether or not he makes it. I personally knocked him a solid round due to injuries, otherwise he is a solid late 3rd to 4th round guy on my board. Not a HR hitter over the top, but extremely dangerous with the ball in his hands. Good ball skills, plays a physical rand of football and had 5 rushing TDs last year. He’s a real good jet sweep option and not afraid to block. I think fans will like his style of play.
6. 182 Tre’vius Hodges-Tomlinson – CB – TCU – 5′-8” 177 lbs. – Super fluid, athletic CB with speed to burn. His size is his only limitation. Scheme diverse, prefer man.
My 74th overall prospect
My 13th ranked CB
My 57th ranked player on my Rams Stacked BoardAmazing value. The top CB in the country award winner this year. Size is his issue. Highly athletic, great ball production and aggressive as all get out. He allowed less than 35% completion rate last year which is elite. He looks like a slot/nickel back early on. Has to cut down on his penalties. Solid against the run. Should be a fan favorite. And no, he is not a clone of Burgess.
6.189 Ochaun Mathis – EDGE – Nebraska – 6′-5″ 250 lbs.
Unranked on all my boardsThey lost me with this pick. With already 2 edge rushers on board, why not target another position? He has a 7th to UDFA grade from me. Reasoning is his production kept slipping every year, even after transferring. So I think this is a case of the Rams buying low and hoping they can return him to 2020 form. He is a situational pass rusher for now (so redundant with hampton). He has great size and length for the position. He needs to get stronger to defend the run and to help with his long armed rush attack. Bendier than he looks.
6.215 Zach Evans – RB – Ole Miss – 5′-11” 202 lbs. – Quick and can go the distance. Good vision. Not a power back. OZS
My 147th overall prospect
My 12th ranked RB
My 117th ranked player on my Rams Stacked BoardI’m back on board with this pick. I had him as a 4th round back. So getting him in the 6th is a steal. He is more well rounded than some of the other backs taen before him. Low wear and tear. Got stuck behind a freshman this year that might have been the 2nd best RB in college already. Plenty of speed. OK size and power. Not super dynamic but uses his vision and balance to avoid tacklers in the open field. Contact balance is good and can gain yards after contact. Fumbles are my main concern.
7. 223 Ethan Evans – P – Wingate – 6′-4″ 235 lbs.
Not ranked on any boards
He’s a gigantic punter. Thats all I have. Sorry guys.
7. 234 Jason Taylor II – SAF – Okla St. – 6′-0″ 204 lbs.
Not ranked on any boards
I liked him alot as an UDFA, so this is not a reach to me. He’s an absolute thumper that has some missed tackles (I’m assuming due to over aggression) Super athletic. Needs work in coverage, but in a Rams style system, he should be fine. ST demon is his floor. Def. adds toughness to the DB room.
7. Desjaun Johnson – DE – Toledo – 6′-2″ 285 lbs.
unranked on all boards
He was an UDFA so literally 1 pick away from that. The Rams obviously have a type, and he is it. 6′-2″ 280 something pounds. He is tough as nails, but lacks length. Trouble disengaging OL. Nice project. And really nothing to lose at the end of the draft. The little I saw him, I came away uninspired I guess is a good word.
UDFAs
I’ll touch on the ones I know or have some info on.
Tiyon Evans – RB – Louisville – 5′-10” 225 lbs. – He’s a thumper with excellent contact balance. Lacks a top gear. Pretty quick into the hole. Not a pass catcher. Any scheme.
My 193rd overall prospect
My 17th ranked RBThis is a really nice get. The RB room now has a RB at 200 lbs, 205 lbs, 215 lbs and 225 lbs. I think he can stick as a 4th RB if they carry 4, which they should.
Rashad Torrence II – SAF – Florida – 6′-0” 193 lbs. – Big time effort guy willing to throw his face in the fan against the run. Good instincts and in the passing game. Size/speed limitations. Scheme diverse.
My 237th ranked overall prospect
My 19th ranked SAF
My 187th ranked prospect on my Rams Stacked BoardAnother really good get. Does he stick? Who knows but I like his skill set and size. I’m usually tough on Florida players, but there is something about him I really like.
Alex Ward – LS – UCF – 6′-4” 240 lbs. – He long snaps…footballs.
My 259th (and last) overall prospect
Ok so a little credit here. You guys wanted punters, Long Snappers and Kickers, so I gave you one of each. I nailed the LS. He should stick, since they need a LS. Bonus credit for the best description of his skill set that you will find.
Jaiden Woodbey – SAF/LB – Boston College – 6′-0″ 222 lbs. – A safety that works well in the box, is a bit of a tweener, but his lack of speed probably makes him a 3rd down cover backer. Plays a physical brand of football. Should be a good ST member.
My 205th ranked prospect on my Rams Stacked Board
I added him to the stacked board, because the Rams seem to grab a guy like this every year and the Rams showed interest. It’ll be interesting to see what they do with him.
Tyler Hudson – at 6′-2″ and 193 he has great size, but tested really poorly and ran a 4.69. He is a very good route runner and has decent hands. Has the size to be a possession WR. He’s got an uphill battle to make the Rams roster.
Sam James – a 5′-11″ 180 lb WR with return skills. Runs a 4.5. If he makes the team its due to STs. He was a big play threat for the Mountaineers.
Xavier Smith – a 5′-9″ Return guy with a ton of speed. I think he was the MVP of the HBCU Bowl. Electric little jitterbug. He may be the return specialist.
Braxton Burmeister – A QB turned WR. I find that interesting. 6′-0″ 193 lbs.
Rams really hit the Hulu Bowl: Tyon Davis, Ethan Evans, Alex Ward and Tanner Brown all played in it. So did Tyler Hudson
Matthew Jester – He is the type of guy that can make the PS and develop for a year.
Tanner Ingle – An absolute Hammer from the SAF position. He can be frustrating to watch at times, but when he hits you…
Kelechi Anyalebechi – ILB – Incarnate Word – Played the Bison in the semifinals of the FCS playoffs, had 2 tackles and wasn’t much of a factor. I doubt he makes the team.
Anyhow, I was fairly pleased. I felt like they needed a NT and a boundry CB, and came up empty. I am not a fan of Bennett, but if he checks himself at the door, he has the skillset to be successful. My biggest concern is if you think he can be a dual threat type, you will be disappointed. Running will get him murdered.
I also wasn’t a huge fan of Turner. But I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Otherwise, I thought it was a very good draft. They finally went hard after IOL. That is amazing. The Rams could be actually building that line. At least they have options.
Speaking of options, it looks like competition everywhere but Outside CB.
Thank you to everyone that stopped and commented or asked questions and made my 2023 draft experience worthwhile. I wouldn’t bother with a lot of this stuff if the board wasn’t full of great posters.
May 1, 2023 at 9:30 pm #143957znModeratorBreaking down Rams’ draft picks and undrafted free-agent signings
GARY KLEIN
https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/story/2023-04-29/rams-2023-picks-why-they-were-drafted
The Rams did not have a first-round NFL draft pick again this season, last one coming in 2016 with the No. 1 pick of Jared Goff, but they did select a whopping 14 players over the last two days.
L.A. grabbed six offensive players, seven defenders and a punter. The Rams entered the draft without a kicker, punter or long snapper on the roster. They addressed both lines on Day 2 of the draft, in rounds two and three. On Day 3, they had a fourth-round pick, four fifth-round picks, three sixth-round picks and three seventh-round picks.
Breaking down the picks and how they might contribute with the Rams next season.
Steve Avila — offensive lineman
6 feet 4, 331 pounds, Texas Christian, Round 2, Pick 36
Notable: Avila, a Texas native, played guard, center and tackle during his college career. He started at left guard in 2022 for the Horned Frogs, who advanced to the College Football Playoff title game.
Last season: Avila played in 15 games and did not give up a sack. He was voted to the All-Big 12 Conference team.
Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams’ offensive line underperformed last season even before injuries began to mount. The Rams let guard David Edward leave as a free agent and unproven Tremayne Anchrum is returning from an ankle injury he suffered in the season opener. Logan Bruss, the Rams’ top pick last season, also is coming back from a knee injury suffered during the second preseason game.
Byron Young — edge rusher
6 feet 2, 250 pounds, Tennessee, Round 3, Pick 77Notable: According to Tennessee’s website, Young worked at a Dollar General store for about 18 months before making the team at Georgia Military College. He played two seasons at the junior college and transferred to Tennessee.
Last season: Young had seven sacks and 12 tackles for losses for the Volunteers. He was voted All-SEC by the league’s coaches. Young had 12½ sacks in his two seasons in Knoxville.
Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams are in desperate need of edge rushers. Last season, the Rams released outside linebacker Justin Hollins and Terrell Lewis. After the season, they released edge rusher Leonard Floyd. Converted defensive lineman Michael Hoecht and Daniel Hardy, a second-year pro who was injured last season, are on the roster.
Kobie Turner — defensive lineman
6 feet 2, 288 pounds, Wake Forest, Round 3, Pick 89Notable: Turner, a Virginia native, walked on at Richmond and amassed 14½ sacks in three seasons before transferring to Wake Forest for his final season.
Last season: Young played in 13 games but did not start. He posted 10 tackles for losses, including two sacks. He also forced four fumbles for the Demon Deacons.
Why the Rams drafted him: Aaron Donald is a three-time NFL defensive player of the year but the Rams need reinforcements on the interior line. After last season, the Rams let Greg Gaines and A’Shawn Robinson leave as free agents. Turner joins a defensive line group that includes Bobby Brown and Marquise Copeland.
Stetson Bennett — quarterback
5 feet 11, 192 pounds, Georgia, Round 4, Pick 128Notable: Bennett is the first quarterback selected by the Rams during the Sean McVay era — and only the fourth since Les Snead became general manager in 2012.
Last season: Bennett, who began his career as a walk-on, led Georgia to the College Football Playoff championship. He passed for 27 touchdowns, with seven interceptions.
Why the Rams drafted him: Rams starter Matthew Stafford is 35, and he is coming off a season in which he worked through right-elbow issues, suffered a concussion and was sidelined for the final seven games because of a spinal bruise. Bennett will presumably be able to learn from Stafford, who also played at Georgia, before ultimately succeeding him.
Nick Hampton — edge
6 feet 2, 236 pounds, Appalachian State, Round 5, Pick 161Notable: Hampton caught the attention of NFL scouts when he recorded 11 sacks as a junior in 2021.
Last season: Despite missing three games because of injury, Hampton had 9½ tackles for losses, including seven sacks.
Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams released Justin Hollins, Terrell Lewis and Leonard Floyd, leaving converted defensive lineman Michael Hoecht and second-year pro Daniel Hardy as the only remaining edge rushers on the roster. Hampton joins third-round pick Byron Young as young players who will try to fill the void.
Warren McClendon Jr. — offensive tackle
6 feet 4, 306 pounds, Georgia, Round 5, Pick 174Notable: McClendon was a three-year starter at right tackle for Georgia, which won back-to-back national titles.
Last season: McClendon was voted All-Southeastern Conference after starting 14 games. McClendon helped protect quarterback Stetson Bennett, who was selected by the Rams in the fourth round.
Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams are in need of offensive linemen to improve a unit that underperformed and was riddled with injuries last season. McClendon could back up veteran right tackle Rob Havenstein. McClendon was the second offensive lineman drafted by the Rams, joining second-round pick Steve Avila of Texas Christian.
Davis Allen — tight end
6 feet 6, 245 pounds, Georgia, Round 5, Pick 175Notable: Allen spent most of his first two seasons as an on-line blocker before breaking into the starting lineup as a pass-catching threat as a junior.
Last season: Allen, who caught 28 passes as a junior, grabbed a career-best 39 passes for 443 yards and five touchdowns.
Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams want to build tight end depth. Veteran Tyler Higbee is entering his eighth season — and possibly the final year of his contract. Brycen Hopkins is in the final year of his rookie deal, and the Rams acquired Hunter Long in the trade that sent star cornerback Jalen Ramsey to the Miami Dolphins.
Puka Nacua — wide receiver
6 feet 2, 201 pounds, Brigham Young, Round 5, Pick 177Notable: Nacua played his first two college seasons at Washington before returning to his home state and playing for the Cougars.
Last season: Nacua caught 48 passes for 625 yards and six touchdowns. He also is a threat as a rusher.
Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams are searching for receivers to complement star Cooper Kupp, who is returning from an ankle injury that required surgery. The Rams recently traded Allen Robinson. Van Jefferson is in the final year of his rookie contract, and Tutu Atwell and Ben Skowronek have shown improvement.
Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson — cornerback
5 feet 8, 178 pounds, Texas Christian, Round 6, Pick 182Notable: Hodges-Tomlinson is the nephew of Hall of Fame running back LaDainian Tomlinson.
Last season: Hodges-Tomlinson was an All-American and won the Jim Thorpe Award as college football’s top defensive back. He intercepted three passes.
Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams did not re-sign veteran Troy Hill, who played as a nickel back. So Hodges-Tomlinson could compete for that role in a cornerback group that includes Cobie Durant, Derion Kendrick and Robert Rochell. The cornerbacks are once again coached by Aubrey Pleasant, who returned to the staff after stints with the Detroit Lions and Green Bay Packers.
Ochaun Mathis — edge
6 feet 5, 250 pounds, Nebraska, Round 6, Pick 189Notable: Mathis, a Texas native, played three seasons at Texas Christian before transferring to Nebraska for his senior season.
Last season: Mathis started 12 games and recorded five tackles for losses, including 3½ sacks.
Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams and defensive coordinator Raheem Morris continued their search for players who can work with star tackle Aaron Donald and consistently pressure quarterbacks. Mathis joins fellow draftees Byron Young and Nick Hampton to help fill the void left by the release of Leonard Floyd and others.
Zach Evans — running back
5 feet 11, 202 pounds, Mississippi, Round 6, Pick 215Notable: Evans began his career at Texas Christian and played two seasons for the Horned Frogs before transferring to Ole Miss.
Last season: Evans was sidelined at times because of a hip injury and a concussion, but he rushed for 936 yards and nine touchdowns.
Why the Rams drafted him: Running back Cam Akers, who rushed for more than 100 yards in each of the final three games last season, will be a restricted free agent at the end of this season. Second-year pro Kyren Williams was injured most of last season. Evans gives new running backs coach Ron Gould some depth.
Ethan Evans — punter
6 feet 4, 238 pounds, Wingate, Round 7, Pick 223Notable: Evans is the first punter to be drafted by the Rams since 2005, when they selected Reggie Hodges of Ball State.
Last season: Evans averaged 40.3 yards per punt for a Wingate team that won 11 games.
Why the Rams drafted him: With no specialists on the roster, new coordinator Chase Blackburn needed players. Last season, Riley Dixon replaced longtime Rams punter Johnny Hekker but the Rams released Dixon and let kicker Matt Gay and long-snapper Matt Orzech leave as free agents.
Jason Taylor II — safety
6 feet, 204 pounds, Oklahoma State, Round 7, Pick 234Notable: Evans, an Oklahoma native, was a two-year starter who made plays in the secondary and on special teams.
Last season: Taylor was named All-Big 12 Conference after making 99 tackles and intercepting six passes.
Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams needed depth at safety. Nick Scott and Taylor Rapp, starters last season, signed with the Cincinnati Bengals and Buffalo Bills, respectively. Jordan Fuller is returning from injury and Russ Yeast and Quentin Lake will be second-year pros.
Desjuan Johnson — defensive lineman
6 feet 2, 285 pounds, Toledo, Round 7, Pick 259Notable: Johnson was selected with the 259th and final pick in the draft. The Rams acquired the pick when they traded pick No. 167 to the Texans for Nos. 174 and 259.
Last season: Johnson had 16½ tackles for losses and 5½ sacks for Toledo, which had a 9-5 record.
Why the Rams drafted him: The Rams did not waste an opportunity to add another potential contributor to a defensive line group that lost Greg Gaines and A’Shawn Robinson. Several late-round picks in the last few drafts demonstrated late last season that they could play as rotational players.
May 2, 2023 at 1:57 pm #143966znModeratorFlatlyner
As a whole, I liked the draft quite a lot. We picked some potential studs at positions we were certainly weak in. My biggest collective gripe is that we probably had the oldest draft class in the NFL. I doubt that was by accident. The Rams want mature and ready to play guys to that we can compete this season. In addition, a lot of these guys were team captains. I voted B+ and thought they had a great draft.
OL – Avila – A
Mine, and many others, top rated IOL (outside of Skoronski as he was drafted at OT). Huge get for the team as he can play any interior position well. That will allow us to have more of just “the best 3 guys” out there on the interior at any given time.
Edge – B.Young – B+
He was by no means my favorite edge going in the draft, but, the edge position was just hammered in the first 2 rounds, so, what are you going to do? I think they best edge that was on the board. After more research on the guy, he has as much potential as any of them and is likely the most athletic edge that was in the draft. Young has a real shot of being productive on this team.
DL – K.Turner – B
PFF loves this kid for a reason (top rated DL prospect in the nation, even over Carter). He’s an all around Dl with ability in the pass and the run. I’m not a fan of his size or age, but, I love the dog he has in him and look forward to seeing him next to AD.
QB – Bennett – B+
I was certainly higher on other QB’s that were still on the board, however, after hearing that the Rams had Bennett as their top QB option and realizing he is actually a perfect backup to Stafford, I’m much more on board with this. The guys is a straight up winner. Is he our QB of the future, probably not but he could be our cheap capable back up QB for the next 7-8 years. I also love that he is very mobile.
Edge – Hampton – C+
Another undersized very athletic player. Unlikely to every be a real edge setter, but, with his crazy first step quickness, he is likely going to rotate in on passing downs and contribute. Didn’t know much about him when he was picked, but, Brugler had him rated above Young and a 3rd round prospect, so do love the value.
OT – McClendon – C+
A swing tackle prospect that could develop into a potential starter. Might have gotten a steal with this guy as he had an MCL issue and couldn’t test on proday or combine. Probably will be back up depth at tackle for his career, but, we needed some of that.
TE – Davis Allen – B+
Pretty big fan of this pick. He was easily the best TE prospect on the board when they took him and some had him as high as 3rd round projections. He’s an all around TE who can block fairly well. Hope that he can develop into our starter after this year, but, he has to leap over the ever dynamic Long. Great value pick.
WR – Nucua – A
Honestly love this pick. This guy is exciting and can block very well for a WR, something you know that the Rams covet. Has a injury riddled background so that is concerning, but, he is one of the younger guys we drafted, which is a bonus! This guy will be a fan favorite if he can crack into some playing time. Had he not had the injury history, I feel like he would have gone 2 rounds sooner, perhaps more.
CB – Hodges-Tomlinson – A+
Easily one of the best picks of the entire draft, all teams considered. Absurd athlete. Will work well in our scheme and I can’t see any way that he won’t be at least starting in the slot this season. The literal only reason we can get him in the 6th is his size. He’s bigger then Atwell, but still very small for a CB.
Edge – Mathis – D
Don’t get this pick really. Already added 2 edge rushers and this guy is a project at best. I liked every pick they made after Mathis considerably better, including the punter. This guy has PS written on him and, unless he has a ton of untapped potential, is unlikely to see playing time IMO.
RB – Z.Evans – A
Really love this pick. He was my 5th RB in the entire draft and we got him at the end of the 6th! I did hear that he has some character concerns, which is the only reason he is still there in nearly the 7th round. We moved up to grab him, so you know that the staff feels good about him. Evans could be our RB1 of the future if the concerns are alleviated. Thought this guy would be gone in the 3rd honestly.
P – E.Evans – A
From all accounts, he’s a great punter. Big dude that can make that tackle if needed. Has a great leg. We needed a punter and it looks like we got a good one.
S- Jason Taylor II – B
Probably drafted to be on ST, but there is some potential a safety. He got his hands on a LOT of balls in coverage. He dad is a great player, so I wouldn’t bet against him.
DE – D.Johnson – A
Another fantastic value pick. He, along with Turner are PFF darlings and ranked in the top 5 of all defensive lineman per their metrics. He’s undersized for being on the line, but that has worked for us in the past. Great DL depth pick
May 2, 2023 at 5:37 pm #143971znModeratorfrom https://theramswire.usatoday.com/lists/rams-nfl-draft-grades-experts-2023-class-report-card/
Touchdown Wire – Grade: B
Doug Farrar liked what the Rams did at the top of the draft, particularly with their first pick, Steve Avila. He questioned the selection of Stetson Bennett in the fourth round, however, which many fans and analysts have done, too.I love the addition of Steve Avila up top — he’s a natural power blocker who will work his way into that depleted offensive line right away. And Tennessee’s Byron Young is a hybrid-sized (6-foot-2, 250-pound) rusher who had nine sacks and 42 total pressures last season. The fifth round was a value round for the Rams — Warren McClendon Jr. was a personal favorite as was Puka Nacua, Davis Allen should thrive in Sean McVay’s offense, and if Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson was six feet tall and weighed 200 pounds, we’d have been talking about him as we were talking about Devon Witherspoon, Christian Gonzalez, and Joey Porter Jr.
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NFL.com – Grade: A-Chad Reuter wasn’t as critical of the Bennett pick, saying he has the tools to potentially replace Matthew Stafford after he retires – though he needs to do some maturing, too. He also liked the selections of Avila and Taylor in the first three rounds, but he believes Kobie Turner went earlier than expected.Analysis: Super Bowl-winning quarterback Matthew Stafford functioned as the Rams’ first-round pick again this year. The team added more picks through various Day 2 trades. Adding Avila bolsters the interior of the offensive line, while Young’s closing ability gives him a chance to become an effective edge defender. Turner was a productive player at Richmond and Wake Forest but went a bit earlier than projected.
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Pro Football Focus – Grade: A-Pro Football Focus noted that Young isn’t a finished product as a pass rusher, but the potential is there for him to become a quality player. Turner got some good recognition from the analytics site, which viewed him as one of the most underrated players in the entire draft.The Rams grab one of the most underrated players in the class. After producing at an elite level in the FCS for Richmond, Turner transferred to the Demon Deacons and earned a 92.2 PFF grade in 2022 — the second-best mark in the Power Five, behind only Georgia’s Jalen Carter. Turner plays with excellent leverage and possesses strong hands and quicks.
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Sports Illustrated – Grade: BGilbert Manzano, who used to cover the Rams, gave them a grade of ‘B’. He views Avila as a potential starter at guard next season and the team’s center of the future, while Young fills a clear need at edge rusher. Turner should get better after learning from Aaron Donald, too.The Rams were smart to add depth to the offensive line after the starting unit was decimated by injuries in 2022. Avila could compete for a guard spot next year and possibly become the center of the future. L.A. followed with another smart decision, addressing its pass-rushing need by selecting Young, who could provide that after recording seven sacks last season. Turner lacks ideal size as a defensive tackle, but he’s a polished pass rusher and will get to learn from Aaron Donald. The Rams made noise on Day 3 after selecting Bennett to be the backup for Matthew Stafford. — G.M.
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The Ringer – Grade: C+Danny Kelly noted how large the Rams’ draft class is, consisting of 14 total players. The quantity is there, but he doesn’t believe they found a star in this class. And while Byron Young is an older prospect, Kelly sees him as “an athletic marvel.”I’m also a fan of day-three role players Clemson tight end Davis Allen, BYU pass-catcher Puka Nakua, and Ole Miss running back Zach Evans, the latter of whom could push Cam Akers for carries early on. This wasn’t the flashiest group of players for the Rams, and I’m not sure I see a star. But L.A.’s got to rebuild the depth of their roster—and this was a solid start.
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FOX Sports – Grade: BEric D. Williams gave the Rams a ‘B’ for their class, noting that Bennett should be a “solid backup” to Stafford. Young will help replace Leonard Floyd on the edge, and Avila should shore up an offensive line that turned into a revolving door last season.The Rams had several needs to fill, particularly on the defensive side, where Aaron Donald is one of the few starters sticking around. Tennessee edge rusher Byron Young should help replace the production left vacant by the departure of Leonard Floyd. TCU product Steve Avila helps bolster an offense that started 14 different offensive-line combinations in 2022. Georgia quarterback Stetson Bennett should be a solid backup for the aging Matthew Stafford.
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From Roundup: Grades for and reactions to Rams’ 2023 NFL Draft picks
Stu Jackson
https://www.therams.com/news/rams-2023-nfl-draft-grades
CBS Sports’ Pete Prisco: B
Prisco says TCU guard Steve Avila (Round 2, No. 36 overall) was the Rams’ best selection.
“The Rams didn’t have a first-round pick — shocking, right? — but they made the most of the picks they did have,” Prisco writes. “They picked a lot of good players. In addition to Avila, I liked a lot of their picks, including third-round edge Byron Young. Sixth-round corner Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson is a quality player, who could be a good nickel. This team is being overhauled and this is the kind of draft that gives a team some good, young bodies to help make it happen.”
Sporting News’ Vinnie Iyer: B-
“The Rams, for a change, loaded up on draft picks after not having a first-rounder again,” Iyer wrote as part of his analysis. “There’s a lot of volume here, with Avila, Young, McLendon, Hodges-Tomlinson and Zach Evans standing out as the most valuable picks for Les Snead and Sean McVay.”
ESPN’s Todd McShay says Tennessee outside linebacker Byron Young was the Rams’ best value pick (subscription required to read full analysis).
“Hitting on the Day 2 and 3 picks is going to be important, and I think a lot of prospects in the Rams’ rookie class will have a chance to start at some point this season,” McVay wrote as part of his breakdown. “So getting an impact edge rusher such as Young in the third round? Massive. He has a really explosive first step and closing burst, and it’s no surprise that Young lit up the combine with a 4.43-second 40 at 250 pounds, along with wild 11-foot broad and 38-inch vertical jumps. All three numbers were first or second among edge rushers.”
May 3, 2023 at 11:37 am #143984znModeratorInside the Rams’ 2023 NFL Draft: Nerves at No. 36, ‘no-hitter’ treatment and top picks
Jourdan Rodrigue
The most fun I have reporting and writing a story each year:
Inside the Rams draft house, from some clenching and discipline in the 1st and 2nd, to the "no-hitter" treatment for one favorite, and intel + analysis on *every single* pick…hope you enjoy: https://t.co/tHxmW6X4om
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) May 3, 2023
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ENCINO, Calif. — Day 2 of the NFL Draft started with whispers and rumors, as it always does. This time, the Rams were involved.
When Kentucky quarterback Will Levis dropped out of the first round, pundits and football fans speculated about a potential connection with the Rams, because head coach Sean McVay recently employed Liam Coen as offensive coordinator. Coen, who is back at Kentucky, successfully ran a version of McVay’s system with Levis in 2021.
But Levis was never in the Rams’ plans. Internally their opinions about him were far from consensus. They entered the draft with the expectation to wait until Day 3 to pick up a quarterback who would back up Matthew Stafford. As they reset their draft board ahead of Friday’s second and third rounds, general manager Les Snead wrote their coaching and scouting consensus No. 1 player for Day 2 on a sheet of lined paper, and passed it around: TCU guard Steve Avila.
Snead, who loves to play the antagonist, later openly smirked about the quarterback rumors in his post-draft press conference. He also had a U-T Chattanooga sweatshirt draped over the back of his chair in the war room upstairs, a wink at a mischaracterized viral moment from the 2022 first round when Snead and McVay tipsily cackled about the Patriots selection of offensive lineman Cole Strange — laughing at themselves for doing so much work on a player 90 picks out of their reach.
This year, their first pick was at No. 36. And instead of spending their pick-less first round, ah, “bonding” with their staff, McVay and Snead stayed in the Rams’ war room on the second level of their 10,000-square-foot draft house in the San Fernando Valley.
They were discussing a possible trade into the first round, and needed to remain upstairs — surrounded by analysts, other executives, their coordinators Mike LaFleur and Raheem Morris and their senior draft consultants, as well as several digital screens feeding them information on official picks and trades being filed over to the league as much as 15 minutes before the television broadcast displayed them.
Thursday night, the Rams debated about five players — all offense — who either were falling, or could fall, far enough in the first round to merit a trade up. They “knocked on some doors,” Snead later said, to inquire about costs. Suddenly, the Giants made their move into pick No. 24 (the TV broadcast was only on pick No. 21 or 22 at that point) and the Jaguars flipped their new No. 25 to Buffalo. Shortly after, the group upstairs got its intel on how the rest of the first round would likely shake out and some started to make their way downstairs (the broadcast still only showing picks 23-24 by now).
By Friday afternoon, with Avila locked in as their top target at No. 36 and league-wide smokescreens circulating, some on staff were getting nervous. A couple of assistant coaches, including new offensive line coach Ryan Wendell, started a game of bags in the backyard to try to settle down. Wendell hovered near the staircase as the second round began, in case the Rams were in reach of their guy. If he fell to them, Wendell would be called upstairs by McVay’s right-hand assistant, Carter Crutchfield, to get on the phone and help call in the pick (the Rams do this with all of their position coaches).
A mini-run on the top two remaining tight ends started right ahead of the Rams — the Lions took Sam LaPorta, and then the Raiders traded up for Michael Mayer (perhaps believing the Rams would take him). Tight end was a need for the Rams, who thought very highly of several prospects in the class — but regarded no Day 2 player higher than Avila. They had a clear runway to file Avila over to the league office as their pick at No. 36, amid raucous applause and hollering.
Wendell came back downstairs, took a breather, and then went outside and sank the game-winner in bags.
Avila will likely immediately start for the Rams at either guard or center. He has excelled at both: a team captain who started for TCU at center before a transfer player/coaching change sent him to guard, where he didn’t allow a single sack in 2022 and became a consensus All-American.
“(He is a) tough guy, I mean a large human being who moves very well for that size. A guy that is in the business of moving people,” said area scout Cedric Jones, who was the lead on Avila. He joked that watching Avila even got “boring” because he was just so consistent snap after snap.
At No. 36, and later in the second round — all picks within the top 100, after trades from No. 69 to No. 73, then No. 73 to No. 89 left them with Nos. 77 and 89 — the Rams wanted players who could physically get on the field as early as possible. But also important were these specific players’ acumen for the sport and their leadership qualities. Because the Rams will be so young at so many positions, this draft was not just about filling holes — it was also about resetting a cultural foundation after a calamitous 2022. That only made Avila a more coveted player.
“He has a great personality, he can relate to a lot of different people,” Jones said. “You can put that guy in, he’s gonna come and do his job. We’re pretty confident in that.”
At No. 73, the Rams took Tennessee edge Byron Young. He went from no-star recruit who didn’t have the grades to attend a Division I school, to postgraduate school to get his grades together, to assistant manager at Dollar General where he saw a flier for tryouts at Georgia Military College in the spring of 2019. From there, Young (who also lost the 2020 season because of the pandemic), got his tape out to junior colleges and eventually signed with Tennessee. Area scout Billy Johnson latched onto Young around that time, but Young required some digging past just his short stint there. Senior personnel executive Brian Xanders went back over all of Young’s scraps of tape to get a better feel for the pressures and quarterback hits he amassed at his various stops.
The Rams lack any sort of presence off the edge, and Young’s 4.43 40-yard dash speed was his most attractive athletic quality especially because their pass rush was frequently neutralized by opponents’ quick game in 2022. But Young’s run defense is still a big work in progress — and something he said new outside linebackers coach Joe Coniglio spoke about in-depth with him when they had a Zoom call in the weeks before the draft. The Rams still lack a player who can definitively play every down at outside linebacker.
At pick No. 89, the Rams drew another rare consensus between scouts and coaches when they selected Wake Forest defensive tackle Kobie Turner.
Turner is undersized (6-foot-2 and 293 pounds), but built like a barrel full of rocks. He’s also bright and self-aware, noting Friday night that he especially studied Rams star Aaron Donald’s tape from years ago to see how he developed his hands and technique. “Especially a few years back, knowing that I was a little undersized by other people’s terms, I learned just how good his hand placement is (and) how everything works in sync,” he said.
Turner was compared to former Rams defensive tackle Greg Gaines, another undersized difference-maker, during his evaluation process. Gaines signed with Tampa Bay this spring. Like Gaines, Turner possesses an understanding of how all of the pieces of a pass rush interconnect and that is important when working in tandem with Donald, who can freestyle where he sees an advantage. In college, Turner created enough havoc along the interior defensive line to make quarterbacks hesitate (another trait identified for setting up Donald).
“He’s just one of those guys that when you watch him play, there’s no play off,” Snead said.
With their first three picks Friday night, it felt as though the Rams selected players who (in theory) would immediately help at least two in their aging three-man star core: Stafford and Donald.
Pick No. 128, QB Stetson Bennett
Day 3 of the draft started at 7 a.m. with two fresh pots of coffee, which awaited coaches and scouts on the countertop in the open-concept kitchen. Coniglio, among the first wave of coaches who helped drain a pot, started a third as the rest of the house started to fill with bustle and noise. After their two Day 2 trades, the Rams finally held a fourth-rounder (they called their former dearth of picks in that round “the black hole”), No. 128.
Curiously at the time, former NFL quarterback Kellen Clemens paced, expressionless, through the house. He spoke to no one. In hindsight, his presence was a huge giveaway that the Rams were targeting a backup quarterback on Day 3. Internally, they had all agreed that they’d take a quarterback Saturday if one they liked got to one of their picks. Clemens was a consultant hired by the Rams in January to help them evaluate a giant class of quarterbacks, and they never announced it publicly like they had their other hires in order to hide their hand for the draft.
As the staff filed one by one up the stairs and into the war room in the minutes before the fourth round began, they chatted quietly to one another about how they felt the board ahead of their pick would fall. Former Georgia quarterback Stetson Bennett was at the top of Snead’s list. The offensive staff liked him. The defensive staff especially liked him — whoever the Rams brought in as backup to Stafford would also run a live scout team against the first-team defense. That player would have to be capable of developing as a quarterback while at the same time being enough of a competitor to challenge and thus help develop a very young defense.
The Rams also felt that a few teams around the league were pretending they weren’t as high on Bennett as they really were. One person involved in Bennett’s evaluation process said he had a pit in his stomach that morning, worrying they wouldn’t get him.
So they gave Bennett the “no-hitter” treatment, to not jinx anything. They didn’t say his name or talk about him. They weren’t really in communication with him late in the draft process (to the point where he bought several different team hats pre-draft to ensure he had the right one on for his introductory Zoom press conference, not knowing who would pick him).
Clemens had gone to Athens, Ga., and put Bennett through a series of mental evaluations including whiteboard work and in-game decision-making exercises. Clemens, silent all morning, was a totally different person after the pick was filed and even did a miniature press conference with reporters in the garage alongside director of draft management J.W. Jordan.
Jordan said that even with all the talent around Bennett on Georgia’s title-winning rosters, he isn’t just a quarterback who stands and hands off the ball.
“That’s what you think going in,” Jordan said. “So in a way, it’s like you’ve got to overcome that bias. But when you start watching him, you’re like, ‘Oh. This guy is more than just a cog in the wheel. He’s driving the bus — for better or worse, however good or bad he is, he’s driving the bus.”
Bennett is just 5-foot-11, but that was less of a concern for Rams evaluators. They were more so drawn to the quality Jordan described. In 2022, they collectively finally understood the difference between “worst-case scenarios” for their offense: There is the situation in which the starting quarterback goes down and there is little chance the backup can come in and give the team a chance to win, and there is the situation in which the starter goes down and the team knows it has a shot to win. Like waiver wire acquisition Baker Mayfield, the fourth quarterback who started for the Rams in 2022, they believe Bennett is the latter.
About that live scout team, and competing in practice …
The Rams drafted a teammate of Bennett’s, offensive tackle Warren McClendon Jr., at No. 174 on Saturday. McClendon (who currently can plug in as a “swing” player capable of backing up multiple positions along the line) described a Georgia football tradition called “bloody Tuesdays.”
“(It) was our most physical practice,” McClendon said. “Having that competition and coming into practice and practicing hard, I think we’ll both have success there.”
Pick No. 161, OLB Nick Hampton
Everything started moving very fast around this point. The Rams made three more trades (five total in the entire draft) to maneuver around the board.
Hampton, a standout pass rusher at Appalachian State, got the call surrounded by his parents and two brothers. He answered on the first ring.
“I fit their defense because it’s similar to what we did at App State,” Hampton said of the Rams. “I’m a relentless pass rusher. Always giving effort. I’m going to get to the quarterback and get the ball out.”
Hampton, a strong and physical presence on the edge, was No. 84 on Bruce Feldman’s “Freaks list” for standout athleticism and one of seven players the Rams took a closer look at via Senior Bowl tape.
Pick No. 175, TE Davis Allen
New tight ends coach Nick Caley liked Allen, as long as he was a Day 3 pick. Allen is still growing into his skill set as a pass catcher and blocker, but has an intriguing foundation in both phases.
“Dream come true,” said Allen, before spending the next few minutes of the call (somewhat endearingly) talking about all of the things he needs to improve.
“There’s a lot of room for improvement for me, I think there always will be,” he said. “But I do think I can do a little bit of both.”
Pick No. 177, WR Puka Nacua
Nacua’s skill set is very familiar to Rams fans: He’s a physical yards-after-catch player with a real savviness for how the game works and the layers within an offense.
His injury history is a concern and did contribute to his pick point. He and Rams star receiver Cooper Kupp share a former receivers coach in common, Junior Adams (now at Oregon).
“Love Puka,” Adams said in a text message. “Growth mindset. Always trying to get better. Ultra-competitive with the ball in the air and loves doing the dirty work in the run game.”
Pick No. 182, CB Tre Hodges-TomlinsonHodges-Tomlinson, the nephew of Hall of Fame running back LaDanian Tomlinson and last year’s Jim Thorpe Award winner, is under the Rams’ usual height profile at cornerback (he’s 5-foot-8). But he also has outstanding ball skills and athleticism, is twitchy, tenacious and smart — characteristics the Rams need in their secondary in order to get back to a stickier, more aggressive match zone.
Tomlinson definitely, definitely has a chip on his shoulder because of how late he was selected in the draft. He knows it was because of his height.
“People degrade me, even though I’ve done as much as I’ve done in this game of football and continued to prove (them) wrong,” he said. “You know, it seems to still go over others heads. The Rams, you know, they believed in me. They chose to make the pick. So I’m gonna make sure that this pick right here is gonna be one of the greatest picks they’ve ever had. I’m ready to get to work, and I’m gonna continue to show others why they shouldn’t have passed up on me.”
Pick No. 189, OLB Ochaun Mathis
Mathis was a late-round favorite of Morris. He was very impressive at TCU in 34 starts (32 tackles for loss in those games), but didn’t play much after transferring to Nebraska ahead of the 2022 season.
“Mathis has impressive physical traits with his size measurables and athletic tools, but his play strength and pass-rush instincts are underdeveloped,” The Athletic’s lead draft analyst Dane Brugler said. “His raw talent is better than his tape, making him a potential draft-and-develop rusher for an NFL team.”
Pick No. 215, RB Zach Evans
For the second year in a row, the Rams traded up for a running back. Evans was projected to be selected on Day 2 of the draft, but fell in part because of some past injuries and also for what Brugler called “baggage,” referring to Evans as a “boom or bust” prospect, “but there is no denying his burst and balance to create explosive plays in different ways.”
Pick No. 223, P Ethan Evans
Late Saturday afternoon, special teams coordinator Chase Blackburn and assistant Jeremy Springer hunched in one corner of the house’s first floor, cheeks flushed, surrounded by screens and papers. The coaches and the scouts knew that the top kicker and punter in this year’s draft class would likely be selected with higher picks than they would be allotted for the position group. But the Rams entered the draft with zero specialists on their roster, so they had to have a strategy to fill every spot.
If the top kicker(s) were picked before the Rams, they would draft either a punter or a long-snapper, the latter with the latest picks if it came to that and the former only if the right punter fell to the right pick in the seventh round. Then, they would go all-in recruiting multiple kickers to their undrafted free agent class, and whichever third specialist position they didn’t draft.
Both special teams coaches had been on the road visiting prospects all spring. Blackburn attended the Wingate pro day (a private Division II college in North Carolina with a student population of about 2,500) this spring, and took Evans out to dinner — a nice place, added Evans, noting he’s from a small mountain town and that Blackburn “could’ve taken me to McDonald’s, I wouldn’t care.”
The two had a good connection. Evans, just 21 years old, has an impressive leg and finesse even though he’s still growing. Blackburn liked that Evans knew a little Rams history: former special teams greats Johnny Hekker and Greg Zeurlein came into the 2012 class together, and built something impressive from the ground up. As the seventh round began and he headed upstairs, Blackburn was practically vibrating from excitement — they believed Evans would fall to them at pick No. 223, and Blackburn would get to make the call for the first time in his career.
The word Snead used to describe Blackburn throughout the pre-draft process (it’s not a real word, but typically Snead): “Thorough-cus. … Thorough plus focused.”
Pick No. 234, S Jason Taylor
Taylor, an Oklahoma State standout who was projected to be drafted in the late fourth or early fifth round, instead watched with his family as pick after pick came off the board. He sank deeper into sadness and frustration as time passed, and finally walked into the backyard with his mom so that the two could discuss his options as an undrafted free agent.
Then, the Rams called. Taylor’s mom got to listen in as Snead told him they were drafting him, and then they both hurried inside to inform the rest of the family.
“This is all so quick, you know? I just got drafted!” Taylor said over the phone, emotional and fighting to keep his voice even. “I’m here talking now, and I’m just full of happiness and gratefulness.”
Taylor’s voice finally cracked as his tears began to flow. “I think just being with my family, um, I think this is the most special moment. All of this, we went through this process together just to get to this point and the fact that I got a lot of my family here, enjoying each other and having a good time … that’s what makes this special.”
His journey from the draft into his NFL career, if he can stay on course, draws parallels to other Rams safeties who have worked their way up from humble rookie beginnings: Nick Scott and Jordan Fuller.
Pick No. 259, DL Desjuan JohnsonThis year (via trade) the Rams held the final pick in the draft — a bit tiresomely named “Mr. Irrelevant”. Johnson was a tackle-for-loss machine in college, albeit at the MAC level, and (on theme for this Rams draft class), a little undersized at his position. He’ll get a chance to compete for a depth role, though, because their roster is so thin on defense.
“I didn’t know it was the last pick, or ‘Mr. Irrelevant’, until we made the trade,” quipped Snead.
The Rams drafted 11 players Saturday, and then agreed to terms with 24 undrafted free agents (they hit 25 by Monday night). Their roster overall faces a steep uphill climb this season. That is next week’s problem. As the sun started setting over the San Fernando Valley, a few scouts cracked beers (and hard seltzers, no judgment) and turned their attention to one last game of bags.
May 3, 2023 at 6:58 pm #144010znModeratorWho had the best draft⁉️ pic.twitter.com/pBElRvqs7Y
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May 3, 2023 at 9:28 pm #144019znModeratorMay 5, 2023 at 6:37 pm #144047znModeratorNFL Exec says Los Angeles Rams could have ‘Hall of Fame draft’ https://t.co/X02MwWDFqo
— Blaine Grisak 💭 (@bgrisakTST) May 5, 2023
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The Athletic’s Mike Sando got unfiltered thoughts from executives around the NFL and on said that this class has a chance to be a “Hall of Fame draft” for the Rams. Here’s what that NFL executive had to say,“They are looking for their Brock Purdy. The reality is, no one is going to notice the guard they took, but if Stetson Bennett can play, it’s going to be a Hall of Fame draft.”
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more Sando, from https://theathletic.com/4490198/2023/05/05/nfl-draft-class-analysis-execs-unfiltered/?source=user_shared_article
The Rams have just about emerged from their “eff them picks” heyday. Though their first-round pick, No. 6 overall, belonged to Detroit this year, they own all their picks in 2024, plus a slew of likely compensatory choices in the final two rounds, a product of Los Angeles signing no unrestricted free agents this offseason while losing at least five.
Acquiring star cornerback Jalen Ramsey was surely more fun than trading him for a third-round pick that became Tennessee outside linebacker Byron Young, but it’s time for the Rams to take a breath. They drafted 14 players this year, beginning with a guard. There was no big trade-up into the first round. The most buzz they generated was when they selected Georgia quarterback Stetson Bennett in the fourth round.
“They are looking for their Brock Purdy,” an exec said. “The reality is, no one is going to notice the guard they took, but if Stetson Bennett can play, it’s going to be a Hall of Fame draft.”
In the meantime, the Rams are filling roster spots as cheaply as they can while Matthew Stafford and Aaron Donald remain on the payroll.
“What’s interesting about the Rams is, they are at the forefront of not sending scouts on the road, not having scouts or coaches at the combine, so when you see them select players you consider to be reaches for reasons beyond the film, you wonder if they overlooked things that might have been uncovered if they’d put more resources into the process,” an exec said.
There is no way to know what any team knows or does not know, but it’s an interesting thought, at least. The Rams have said they’re better off converting energy wasted traveling into studying game tape, which is by far the most important variable to them.
May 5, 2023 at 8:45 pm #144048znModeratorMay 6, 2023 at 11:31 am #144054Billy_TParticipantThe Athletic’s report on GM views was interesting. HOF level draft, said one. Mostly very positive views like that. But this dissenting note bothered me, if true:
Another executive wasn’t as high on the Rams draft or their process.
“What’s interesting about the Rams is, they are at the forefront of not sending scouts on the road, not having scouts or coaches at the combine, so when you see them select players you consider to be reaches for reasons beyond the film, you wonder if they overlooked things that might have been uncovered if they’d put more resources into the process?
I knew they didn’t send guys to the Combine. I think they’re one of just four teams total that don’t. But I didn’t know their scouts don’t attend college games in person. Hope the exec quoted has this wrong, or is missing essential details, etc. etc. Or I’m just misreading it . . .
If memory serves, there is no Cap on staff contracts, just players. So if I’m an NFL owner, I’m spending a fortune on countless scouts and analysts. I’m sending these guys all over the world, literally, looking for great athletes. Obvious focus on the US, and organized American football leagues in general. But I’m gonna want them to dig into every nook and cranny of the Sports World for hidden gems. Track and field, rugby, lacrosse, martial arts, etc.
Looking at film just isn’t enough, if for no other reason than traveling scouts radically expand the realm of film you should be watching. Keep them at home base and that realm logically shrinks dramatically.
Thoughts?
May 6, 2023 at 11:45 am #144056znModeratorWhat’s interesting about the Rams is, they are at the forefront of not sending scouts on the road, not having scouts or coaches at the combine, so when you see them select players you consider to be reaches for reasons beyond the film,
We already know that’s probably an exaggeration. The Rodrigue article about the draft talks about the road. So I don’t know what the real story is.
May 6, 2023 at 1:03 pm #144057Billy_TParticipantVery minor formatting issue, ZN:
You have me as the author of that exec’s quote. I was actually quoting the quote I quoted. Or, something like that . . .
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Jourdan’s article was a great inside look at how the Rams set up their eval teams for UDFAs, all in that big house, watch film, etc. etc. But I didn’t see any mentions of scouts on the road during the college football season. She notes special teams coaches going on the road in the spring, for Pro Days, and so on. And the Rams are known to send folks to the Senior Bowl, among other All-Star games/weeks. They draft a lot of players from that week, it seems. Might be the most in the league.
But unless I missed it, no mention of Saturdays in the fall and winter.
If the exec is right . . . and who knows? . . . it’s at least unconventional.
May 6, 2023 at 1:13 pm #144058znModeratorInside the Rams’ major changes to their draft process, and why they won’t go back to ‘normal’
Jourdan Rodrigue
Apr 12, 2021
In January, as on-field drills got underway at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala., under the gaze of dozens of NFL talent evaluators, Rams general manager Les Snead and his staff were watching the broadcast of the event from their homes, instead.
Taking necessary safety precautions against COVID-19 forced teams to move toward an all-virtual offseason last spring, and the Rams pulled their scouts off the road during college football season in the fall. But even as in-person scouting events increased little by little this spring, the Rams largely kept operations virtual. It wasn’t just the Senior Bowl; the Rams have only sparsely attended this spring’s local or regional college pro days that replaced the annual NFL scouting combine.
Even in the post-pandemic offseasons of the future, the Rams won’t likely be prominent figures at any of these pre-draft events. Individual meetings held with prospects have been conducted virtually leaguewide over the last two seasons, but even when restrictions are ultimately lifted, the Rams aren’t likely to return to the old ways of in-person “top 30” visits or private workouts with players at the team facilities.
This change in the Rams’ approach directly correlates to the ways they’ve also changed their pre-draft evaluation process — from the data points they match to players, to how they project development, to their internal hierarchy of physical testing and even to their use of resources such as the time and energy spent evaluating players. Last spring, the pandemic — and resulting restrictions — only expedited the changes beginning to take hold within the Rams’ building. In some ways, the Rams even felt they were proved right about the direction they are heading as they watched five of their draft picks become substantial role players in 2020 (running back Cam Akers and safety Jordan Fuller became starters).
In fact, it doesn’t sound like they’re ever going back to the way it was done before.
“We’re always trying to build to where you don’t necessarily have to be there (in person),” Snead told The Athletic. “That’s a model we’re trying to come up with.”
To understand why the Rams are comfortable operating like this, it’s important to first know how their valuation of some of the data produced at events such as the combine or pro days has changed over the years.
All of the data is important, and it’s being shared at a greater rate than ever before. This year NFL teams are sharing medical information on players and testing numbers, and each team constantly collects and assembles everything from athletic profiles, to film, to interviews with scouts and college coaches, to psychological profiles and more (how deeply they dive into each category varies by team).
“With no combine, all pro days we will share data, but that occurs every year in a system that’s referred to as the APT system,” Snead said. “Every club doesn’t have to attend a pro day, but (if a player at a) subset school didn’t go to the combine, we can (still) get the standard 40-yard dash, standard short shuttles, and that data is shared.”
The difference for the Rams is in how they disseminate and apply that data to the players themselves.
Take the 40-yard dash as an example.
Earlier this spring, NFL Network draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah tweeted that he believes the 40-yard dash — perennially marketed to fans as the premier event of the NFL combine and prospect pro days — will soon become obsolete.
In the Rams’ building, it already is — and has been for a couple of years.
“Does it matter whether (a receiver) runs a 4.48 or a 4.56? No,” said J.W. Jordan, the Rams’ director of draft management. “That’s where you use tape, GPS, all the information and data you have on him. Does (the 40) really and truly matter? No.”
Ever since colleges began providing teams with GPS data for players, the Rams have been among the NFL teams to use and apply the data to what they see on film. By doing this, they are not watching how fast a player runs in a straight line — they are projecting how fast he gets into position on a field, in a variety of live-action scenarios. They can see how his play speed matches up against his opponents and how well he can move at the opening of a play, versus when it breaks down and he has to freestyle.
“If you’re looking for a Cooper Kupp, a guy who can do the stuff over the middle, can be a great route runner and get separation with quickness,” Jordan said, “if that’s what you need in a given year, you wouldn’t weight that 40 time as heavily and you might have guys like that (on your board) ahead of guys with faster times.”
Kupp, whom the Rams drafted in the third round in 2017, ran a 4.62-second 40 at the NFL combine. But the team wasn’t really interested in that time; instead, they pulled the GPS data from the routes he ran at the Senior Bowl to gauge how quickly he could navigate the shorter space he would be working with as a slot receiver in their system.
Similarly, the Rams felt Fuller dropped into the sixth round in the 2020 draft because he ran a 4.6-second 40-yard dash — and could not believe their luck when they saw him falling to their pick in that round. Internal scouts, plus former director of college scouting Brad Holmes, had been extremely high on Fuller’s game tape, and the Rams had GPS data from Ohio State that showed Fuller’s remarkable ability to cover a field — at a much higher play speed than his straight-line test indicated.
“The answer to most of our questions is found by watching film of that football player play football,” Snead said. “Not necessarily watching that player do a short shuttle … or an interview where he’s probably prepped on how to answer the questions based on how you want them answered.
“Ninety percent of your evaluation is going to come from watching the orchestra play music or watching the actress act, not watching them memorize their lines.”
That’s not to say the Rams don’t take a player’s straight-line speed (best demonstrated by a 40-yard dash) into account in their overall evaluation of that player. For a “speed threat” receiver, Jordan said, the Rams might weight that time just a bit more than they would a technical receiver such as Kupp. Jordan said that a 40 time can also be helpful as a flag or checks-balances tool in the rare occasions in which a player initially ranked very low on an evaluation blows out his measurables/testing. At that point, the 40 time’s usefulness expands to that of a signal to scouts to check their early evaluation, and see if there is anything they missed or any additional outliers.
For the Rams, it’s just a less important data point than many, many other traits and measurables, and certainly less important than what they see from that player in a game. Snead said the last 10 percent of the evaluation could come from any number of things — but it should serve as a confirmation of what an evaluator found in the other 90 percent, not as a catalyst to change it.
If a measurable such as a 40-yard dash is this much less of a deciding factor in the Rams’ draft process, and if those data points are at once available to the team without them needing to spend the unnecessary extra time to obtain them, why would they?
“It’s not like my ability to time a 40 is better or worse than anybody else’s,” Jordan laughed. “I don’t need to sit there and time a guy on the 40 to believe that he ran whatever time it was. … We get the data, we get the information. As long as we get it, that’s all that matters. … I don’t need to watch a guy jump a vertical jump.”
As he spoke, Jordan turned the volume down on the television in his office, on which a pro day was being broadcast by the NFL Network. He called it “good background noise.”
As the Rams’ view on measurables such as the 40-yard dash has shifted, and data-sharing has increased among NFL teams, so has their usage of time-on-task hours.
The position drills at the Senior Bowl are perennially a helpful tool for teams because they pit a pool of higher-level draft talent against their peers, instead of relying on a range of opponents varying in skill level through the college season. Yet Snead feels he and his staff of evaluators may be even better served viewing them virtually — so even as NFL evaluators were allowed to attend the all-star event, the Rams stayed home.
Snead explained that if he were to be in the bleachers in Mobile, Ala., watching those workouts in person, he wouldn’t be able to extrapolate the players he actually wanted to see, nor focus full attention on any one player for an extended period of time for fear of missing another.
In a virtual setting, the Rams’ regional scouts watched the broadcast of the practices live, then received film of each player in their region courtesy of the Senior Bowl’s staff. When the scouts finished writing their reports, the film then was cross-referenced by position evaluators and analysts, who also wrote reports on all of the prospects in their respective “pools” of talent. Each of the Rams’ personnel staff members did this from their own home.
The whole process took about a week, whereas Snead said if the Rams had traveled to the Senior Bowl, it would take them two or three weeks to get through the same workload. Film study wouldn’t even start until after every staff member returned from Mobile.
“It’s about trying to be efficient with the time, versus, ‘Let’s all travel and let’s all hang out in Mobile,’” he said. “You get a feel for kind of ‘live’ work … then you go back and do all of this next week, where you watch the film. The Senior Bowl really calls for two weeks of work, maybe more (with travel) …
“Let’s look at the amount of travel we’ve been doing. Is that really necessary, or are we only doing it because that’s the way it’s always been? Can we actually engineer a setting where our evaluators can have the time to evaluate more film, travel less?”
James Gladstone, the Rams’ director of scouting strategy, has nicknamed such a process “overriding old data.”
“What are you doing, and why are you doing it?” Snead explained the phrase. “The easiest thing to do is to say, ‘hey, this is what we’re doing.’ But I think what I’ve challenged our group to do is to know why we’re doing it — and does that ‘why’ give us an advantage?
“And if it doesn’t, we should eliminate it.”
The Rams tried this approach with the NFL scouting combine in 2020, just before the COVID-19 pandemic escalated into a global crisis.
Snead and head coach Sean McVay attended the combine (usually seven to 10 days long) for only about 24 hours, to conduct their annual pre-draft media sessions. Most of the Rams’ assistant coaches and coordinators didn’t travel to Indianapolis. Instead, they gathered the most important part of it — players’ medical data — via their team physicians who were on site.
“There are a lot better things for me to do that would be more beneficial to the Rams than spend seven to eight days at the combine,” Snead said. “Even when I was there, I’d spend a lot of time in the hotel room doing film evaluation and what-have-you, just because it’s hard to lose those weeks.
“Even analyzing data, it’s better for me to sit with our ‘Nerd’s Nest’ (the Rams’ team of analysts stationed in Thousand Oaks, Calif.) and analyze the data coming in, of all of these kids running 40s and short shuttles and all of that, than me watching them do it.”
Jordan said that many of the events of the combine are more ritualistic than they are of actual value to teams.
“The most important thing at the combine is the medical information that you get from the physicals,” he said. “That doesn’t affect scouts. … I believe that if you put most people on a lie detector test, you’d find out that a lot of people think that, from a scouting perspective, a lot of stuff you do at the combine is done just because everybody does it, and everybody’s always done it, and it’s just checking a box.”
That includes the notorious combine interview process — sometimes referred to as the “car wash” — in which prospects churn through a series of 15- to 20-minute interviews with teams. A group of NFL personnel people, sometimes including the head coach and even team psychologists, sit in a room with a prospect and essentially grill him. They might ask the prospect to draw up plays or run him through a series of mental hoops and odd questions. Snead and Jordan believe this process, which unfairly backs a prospect into a corner against a dozen NFL people, also increases the likelihood that a player is coached by agents on what to say, or is automatically at a disadvantage by being one person speaking, or “presenting” to a group of NFL personnel. That dynamic can present a skewed version of a player’s actual personality, and influence a whole new set of unconscious biases within some evaluators.
“Why do you have to be sitting in the same room with them?” Jordan said. “Maybe you get a little bit out of it, but are you really going to figure out a person in 15-20 minutes?”
Without a formal combine, teams can spend multiple hour-long sessions with prospects via video conferencing. Even when in-person interviews return, Jordan says the Rams won’t overlook the value of more private, personalized and in-depth conversations that happen virtually.
“If you’re looking to really dive into the kid, the person, the background, the football knowledge — in a lot of ways, it’s actually better,” he said. “The more intimate setting (makes players more comfortable). It’s not one kid walking into a job interview with 10 people staring at him. It seems like the one-on-one intimate setting, kids are more comfortable. When they’re more comfortable, they tend to be more honest.”
The Rams’ changing of their philosophy and practices during draft season has been in the works for a few years — and drastic adjustments into an all-virtual setting forced by the pandemic in the 2020 draft expedited the process.
“Off the heels of that 2020 draft, and really looking toward 2021, we refined our process to guide an approach that centered around one main thing,” Gladstone said. “That being: Measuring raw potential in really an authentic football environment, to determine the scheme fit and the culture fit (of the player).
“And the benefits of no in-person all-star attendance, no combine and minimal pro day attendance where we’re just sending folks on specific ‘missions’ is that the transfer of energy that would otherwise be given to logistics or travel is turned into film evaluation — an authentic football environment of a player performing — and digging deep with sources on the human being, (and) then the virtual player interviews where you now have the capacity to potentially reach more.”
Their model began to shift in 2016, as the then-St. Louis Rams began their transition to Los Angeles, and they faced another dramatic catalyst to their everyday processes. Similarly to 2020, they were largely working from home during the peak of draft season (without the same technology they have today).
“We realized that some of the things that we were doing in terms of meeting and traveling were inefficient,” Jordan said. “We were not equipped, from a technological standpoint, to do some of the things that we are now. But we were dealing with the same type of issues in the sense that we cleared out (our offices) in St. Louis sometime in February, and didn’t get out to Los Angeles until April as a scouting department.
“That was the year we traded up for (Jared Goff), we drafted (Tyler) Higbee. We got Cory Littleton and Morgan Fox as undrafted free agents … and that may have been the true genesis of it, in a sense, where it put the realization in our heads that, ‘Hey, we got through these two months basically working remotely.’ And I think that might have been the first realization that we didn’t really miss much by being in limbo during the move. From there, we had an infusion of younger, more tech-savvy people who could really push it to the next level.
“We didn’t bring either Cory or Morgan in on a visit, didn’t do an interview with Cory at the combine. … It sticks with you, those sorts of things. Like, ‘Do we really need to do this?’”
Now, the Rams may never go back to the “old” ways, even as restrictions and precautions start to lift.
Without a combine, many teams have flooded the local and regional pro days held in its place with their maximum allotment of personnel (three per team, per league rules). For several teams, it’s the first opportunity to see prospects in person.
The Arizona Cardinals, for example, have sent multiple personnel people and coaches to at least 50 pro days this spring. Titans head coach Mike Vrabel told reporters last week that his own staff had been working hard through the spring to get someone at every single pro day.
Yet the Rams have sparsely attended these events, and they certainly have not sent three of their personnel people at once. Even at more widely populated pro days held by some powerhouse FBS schools they were the only one of 32 not to go. Rams personnel people admit that there’s a safety element to staying away from more populated events — plus, with limited draft resources this year, they don’t want to tip their hand too much toward any one prospect or school.
“Why take the extra risk if there’s no additional reward to taking that risk?” Jordan said. “Everything they do is on film. We can watch all of it … the risk/reward thing doesn’t add up to send people.”
For many inside the Rams’ personnel department, it’s tough to see a return to an offseason schedule that would feature their presence at multiple pre-draft events. Gladstone believes that the time they save — as well as the financial resources required to coordinate that travel period — can be funneled into an even more robust analytics department and the investment into analytical resources used by the team to help disseminate a massive wave of data that will hit the NFL in the coming years.
Meanwhile, the Rams’ team-building model has also shifted. In recent years, Snead has offloaded their first-round picks in bundles for “proven” entities such as cornerback Jalen Ramsey, and more recently, quarterback Matthew Stafford. Because the Rams are currently winning at a sustainable rate, Snead believes those future first-round picks would be in the latter part of the round and, therefore, worth less in the Rams’ minds than, say, a former No. 5 overall cornerback or No. 1 overall quarterback (two high-value positions; the Rams wouldn’t do this for a running back, for example).
Those players, plus their and other “core contracts,” are an investment into stars but also shrink the Rams’ draft capital and their financial capital. The complementary aspect of that model, then, is to identify and draft players who can develop into starters or role players while still on rookie deals when plugged in between the core contracts, and then let them get paid by somebody else, resulting in the “free” compensatory picks doled out by the NFL each spring.
It’s a fragile ecosystem, so it becomes all the more crucial to find some sort of “edge” within the draft process that makes the Rams more competitive there, given the draft’s importance to their success and relative dearth of capital. Could their re-assessment of resources such as “time,” as well as their data points within the evaluation process, be the answer?
“The results aren’t (going to be) totally clear until a few years later,” Jordan said. “But just looking at our (2020) draft and college free agency … it seems like it was successful given who has contributed in their rookie year.
“Signs are pointing in the right direction.”
May 6, 2023 at 1:57 pm #144059znModeratorFrom PFF: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-major-takeaways-2023-nfl-draft-all-32-nfl-teams#LAR
LOS ANGELES RAMS: IT WAS A MUCH-NEEDED DRAFT CLASS
After some head-scratching drafts that included taking Tutu Atwell at No. 57 overall in 2021 and not selecting in the first round since 2016, the Rams put together a much-needed, deep draft with a ton of talent to look forward to. Steve Avila, Kobie Turner and Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson could all be starters for them at some point, while Byron Young, Davis Allen and Zach Evans all have a chance to be rotational contributors. They made plenty of picks outside of those players who will also have a chance to make a name for themselves. On paper, it looks like a good class for them.
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