Did the Rams quit on Fisher/Fassel ?

joemad wrote:

I think the Rams didn’t play with same emotion following the loss to Miami…. I think that game ended the season, thus the blow outs began to happen…

Buffalo, Detroit, NYG, Carolina and the Dolphins were all games that the Rams should’ve won… I think the loss to Miami was the final straw…..

I agree with that. Well in this sense anyway: something happened.

Was it quitting? Or loss of confidence?

Some “teams don’t win with that emotion” emotion occurred.

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i don’t know about quitting. i will say that it is my opinion that fisher lost the team. whether that means they stopped believing in the system. or they lost confidence. or they turned on the coach. i have no clue.

but i do believe the coaching staff lost the players.

wv wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

i don’t know about quitting. i will say that it is my opinion that fisher lost the team. whether that means they stopped believing in the system. or they lost confidence. or they turned on the coach. i have no clue.

but i do believe the coaching staff lost the players.

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Well, i dunno if they did or not, but it sure as hell would not surprise me.
I mean, would ‘you’ have kept the faith that long?

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no. which is why i was in favor of getting rid of fisher. not cuz i think he’s a bad coach. i acknowledge the fact that he had to deal with a lot of bad luck.

but it just wasn’t going to go anywhere. with all that losing i don’t think the players were going to keep responding to fisher like they had been doing earlier.

joemad wrote:

I think the Rams didn’t play with same emotion following the loss to Miami…. I think that game ended the season, thus the blow outs began to happen…

Buffalo, Detroit, NYG, Carolina and the Dolphins were all games that the Rams should’ve won… I think the loss to Miami was the final straw…..

I absolutely agree. Something changed for the worse at that time.

sanbagger wrote:

I also think Fishers camp let the cat outa the bag about his extension…maybe an attempt at to get some time, not sure

ya know i think demoff actually leaked it. kind of dangle fisher out there like bait and see what happened. and then axed him when they got their answer.

cuz i’m not exactly sure how it would have benefitted fisher to leak that. it was only going to make fans angrier.

wv wrote:

he emphasized the “Pats players are unselfish“.

One could reasonably conclude he was making a point there.

I think his point was that you take a pay cut to play for a perennial contender and not for a team still struggling.

So I think his point was about himself. I am being playfully ironic in how I put that (the phrase “I think his point was” was not literal). But I stand by it. I think its a comment on the dynamics of free agency for older players. I dont see the Rams as full of selfish players. But Long wasn’t going to take such a drastic pay cut to play for them as a role player.

InvaderRam wrote:

ya know i think demoff actually leaked it. kind of dangle fisher out there like bait and see what happened. and then axed him when they got their answer

I don’t see how that can benefit the organization at all. Dangle him as bait? They should have known his popularity was very low…all he had to do was check out the talk forums (which Demoff has done) or turn on the radio.

To me, the timing of releasing the extension then a week later firing him only made them look like they have no idea what they’re doing. Those of us that follow them closely were already clued in that it had been done, they just didn’t release it.

zn wrote:

Zooey wrote:

cuz i’m not exactly sure how it would have benefitted fisher to leak that. it was only going to make fans angrier.

Fisher said in a radio interview after being fired that one thing that disappointed him in the organization was them leaking the extension news.

So according to him, it wasn’t him.

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I’m not buyin it…why would that disappoint him? I would think he would be upset they didn’t release the info.

I once had a boss tell me he was giving me a promotion but wasn’t giving me the title and we couldn’t tell anyone…I quit a week later.

The Rams didn’t need any more ammo to let Fisher go…they had more than enough.

It makes sense to me Fisher leaked it in an attempt to buy him some more time…in a sense the Rams would look foolish to give him an extension then turn around and fire him before the season ended.

sanbagger wrote:

The Rams didn’t need any more ammo to let Fisher go…they had more than enough.

It makes sense to me Fisher leaked it in an attempt to buy him some more time…in a sense the Rams would look foolish to give him an extension then turn around and fire him before the season ended.

But, conversely, the Rams would know that coaches get fired with extensions all the time and it doesn’t matter, especially since the deal was really a 1-year the way it was structured.