Could it be a landslide?

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  • #55620
    wv
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    Three weeks to go.
    I dunno:
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    link:https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/10/19/the-polls-are-split-between-clinton-winning-and-clinton-winning-in-a-landslide-commentary.html
    The recent presidential election polls have been mixed — but mostly between polls that are good for Hillary Clinton and polls that are fantastic for her.

    Clinton now leads Donald Trump in national polling averages by about 7 points, with every recent live interview poll showing her up by between 4 and 12 points….
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    #55624
    Zooey
    Moderator

    I have been told several times that Trump will win.

    #55626
    wv
    Participant

    I have been told several times that Trump will win.

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    I wonder if Trump voters will blame that Libertarian guy for the defeat,
    the way Gore people blamed Nader.

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    #55628
    wv
    Participant

    btw, i was watching the old movie Gandhi with Ben Kingsley (whose comments in the bonus features section were fascinating)…and for some reason i was thinking of gandhi while i was reading about Trump:

    “…In 2011, he addressed the National Achievers Congress in Sydney, Australia, to explain how he had achieved his success. He noted there were a couple of lessons not taught in business school that successful people must know. At the top of the list was this piece of advice: “Get even with people. If they screw you, screw them back 10 times as hard. I really believe it.”
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/donald-trump-obsessed-with-revenge

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    #55631
    bnw
    Blocked

    Trump will win. It should be by a landslide but the vote fraud of the democrats will not allow it.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #55651
    wv
    Participant

    somethin i read, fwiw:

    link:https://www.publicintegrity.org/2016/10/17/20330/journalists-shower-hillary-clinton-campaign-cash?utm_source=email&utm_campaign=watchdog&utm_medium=publici-email&goal=0_ffd1d0160d-9567d30c7c-100386029&mc_cid=9567d30c7c&mc_eid=cdb5d77305
    Journalists shower Hillary Clinton with campaign cash
    Far fewer making contributions to Donald Trump, analysis shows

    …In all, people identified in federal campaign finance filings as journalists, reporters, news editors or television news anchors — as well as other donors known to be working in journalism — have combined to give more than $396,000 to the presidential campaigns of Clinton and Trump, according to a Center for Public Integrity analysis.

    Nearly all of that money — more than 96 percent — has benefited Clinton: About 430 people who work in journalism have, through August, combined to give about $382,000 to the Democratic nominee, the Center for Public Integrity’s analysis indicates….”

    #55653
    Billy_T
    Participant

    btw, i was watching the old movie Gandhi with Ben Kingsley (whose comments in the bonus features section were fascinating)…and for some reason i was thinking of gandhi while i was reading about Trump:

    “…In 2011, he addressed the National Achievers Congress in Sydney, Australia, to explain how he had achieved his success. He noted there were a couple of lessons not taught in business school that successful people must know. At the top of the list was this piece of advice: “Get even with people. If they screw you, screw them back 10 times as hard. I really believe it.”
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/donald-trump-obsessed-with-revenge

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    WV,

    So, what’s Kingsley like in real life? Is he as interesting in person as he is on film?

    ;>)

    #55654
    wv
    Participant

    WV,

    So, what’s Kingsley like in real life? Is he as interesting in person as he is on film?

    ;>)

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    Well, he didnt really talk about himself, but i thot his thots about the film were fascinating.

    This is it, btw:

    #55655
    nittany ram
    Moderator

    i was thinking of gandhi while i was reading about Trump

    As one does.

    😳

    #55656
    sdram
    Participant

    What’s a landslide? Perhaps 10 points general election or close to it? A 7 or 8 point difference is huge I would say. I’m going to guess it’s somewhere about 7 to 8 percentage points and a high number of electoral votes – in the 310 to 330 range.

    I think that two daily newspapers have endorsed Trump – they’re from St Joseph Missouri and Santa Barbara CA. There are 40 to 50 daily rags endorsing HRC and several of them are papers who have either never endorsed a Democrat for pres or it’s been many years – See Dallas and Phoenix daily papers.

    How many notable Republicans have either unendorsed or never endorsed DJT you might ask?

    Here’s a running list of Republicans who are opposing Donald Trump

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/10/politics/donald-trump-republican-opposition/

    These endorsements say a lot about what he has to offer to me. These are mostly republicans who have put party first for decades and they have made a sober choice to not support Trump and some to openly state why they’re supporting HRC. These articles/endorsements are from before the ET audio where he said he could do almost anything he wanted because he was a star.

    But, no matter about that. He’s right where he wants to be with his 40 to 50 some odd million adoring fans and the new Trump media empire they’re priming to take off. How long will they support him after he loses is the question – weeks, months, or years?

    #55657
    sdram
    Participant

    More stuff.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/the-panic-is-beginning-gop-strategist-steve-schmidt-predicts-election-day-disaster-for-republicans/

    Republican strategist Steve Schmidt said early Wednesday that Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton could win more than 400 Electoral College votes on Nov. 8, adding that “the panic is beginning” among Republicans.

    “I think she’s trending over 400,” Schmidt said.”

    Schmidt also predicted that Democrats will take control of the Senate and are close to taking the House of Representatives.

    “If this election was today, I think Republicans are down 25 seats, as of today, with the trend line going in the wrong direction,” he said.

    “The panic is beginning.”

    A Washington Post/Survey Monkey poll released Tuesday showed the former secretary of State leading in enough states to take 304 electoral votes — well above the 270 needed to win.

    Clinton is leading Republican Donald Trump by 7.2 points in the RealClearPolitics average of national polling, 49.1 to 41.9 percent.

    As of Wednesday, The New York Times gave Clinton a 92 percent chance of winning the election.

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    #55659
    Billy_T
    Participant

    WV,

    So, what’s Kingsley like in real life? Is he as interesting in person as he is on film?

    ;>)

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    Well, he didnt really talk about himself, but i thot his thots about the film were fascinating.

    This is it, btw:

    Thanks, WV.

    I couldn’t help myself. I think ever since I saw that joke done on Cheers, it’s been stuck in my mind. Annoying, I know.

    Anyway . . . very interesting video. Discussion of class, caste, empire, reception in India. And the acting craft itself — had forgotten how many greats were in that film. Makes me want to find good bios of Gandhi and rewatch the film.

    #55666
    Zooey
    Moderator

    Trump will win. It should be by a landslide but the vote fraud of the democrats will not allow it.

    Elections are controlled at the state level, not by the feds. And most states’s election boards – representing well over half of the electoral votes needed to win – are controlled by Republicans, including Ohio and Florida and Michigan. And, in fact, the only states in which the elections are controlled by democrats are mortal locks to go to Clinton anyway. Like California and New York.

    So the democrats are in no position whatsoever to conduct election fraud on any kind of scale that would flip a state blue, no matter what.

    I have no doubt, though, that your crack team of alt-righters will find a couple of people who try to vote without being registered, or maybe even with an expired ID, or something, and as sure as I’m sitting here, that will be enough to unleash the wolves.

    Voter fraud has been studied extensively, and has been demonstrated to be statistically irrelevant. The numbers are miniscule.

    What does affect the outcome is voter suppression which is scrubbing the voting rolls of names, reducing the number of polling stations in certain precincts and understaffing those stations in order to create long lines, and sending threatening messages via robocalls and phony flyers. This has affected hundreds of thousands of voters, and – guess what? – is an exclusively Republican practice.

    #55669
    wv
    Participant

    Trump Quotes:https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-comments-on-science-are-shockingly-ignorant/

    Just read through these. I especially liked the one on fracking, myself.

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    #55697
    Eternal Ramnation
    Participant

    Trump will win. It should be by a landslide but the vote fraud of the democrats will not allow it.

    #55707
    zn
    Moderator

    #55718
    Zooey
    Moderator

    All that because they didn’t build a wall.

    #55720
    bnw
    Blocked

    All that because they didn’t build a wall.

    From the look of that a wall wouldn’t have worked. Should have sited the roadway through better terrain.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #55724
    Zooey
    Moderator

    From the look of that a wall wouldn’t have worked. Should have sited the roadway through better terrain.

    Which, of course, was my point. A wall wouldn’t work anyway.

    #55730
    sdram
    Participant

    From the look of that a wall wouldn’t have worked. Should have sited the roadway through better terrain.

    Which, of course, was my point. A wall wouldn’t work anyway.

    The wall was an expensive, silly idea for the most part(approximately 14 Billion + annual maintenance costs). From what I understand approximately 40% of undocumented aliens had their visa’s expire.

    I’m hoping the new set of old bureaucrats can actually accomplish some sort of worthwhile immigration reform package whatever that may be. Since Obamacare was passed, they can’t seem to agree on a single issue so nothing truly gets done.

    #55733
    Zooey
    Moderator

    The wall was an expensive, silly idea for the most part(approximately 14 Billion + annual maintenance costs). From what I understand approximately 40% of undocumented aliens had their visa’s expire.

    I’m hoping the new set of old bureaucrats can actually accomplish some sort of worthwhile immigration reform package whatever that may be. Since Obamacare was passed, they can’t seem to agree on a single issue so nothing truly gets done.

    I do not care about immigration. That issue is so far down the list of things that concern me that I’m not even sure it’s on the list. The vast majority of people are decent people who want to work and feel at the end of the day like they’ve done something worthwhile. There are freeloaders on this planet, but I’m pretty sure you will find they are spread out evenly amongst all the races and religions and so on, and if anything, the people who leave behind their families and everything they’ve known all their lives to go start anew in country, risking their lives in the process, well…they are probably – as a demographic – a little LESS likely to be freeloaders. You don’t go through all that just for an inadequate amount of food stamps.

    I think the idea of spending $14 billion – or whatever the number is, I don’t even care – on a wall that won’t stop them from coming in anyway is just preposterous. But I don’t even take it the least bit seriously since nobody in government takes it seriously either. It isn’t happening, now or ever.

    #55734
    nittany ram
    Moderator

    I do not care about immigration. That issue is so far down the list of things that concern me that I’m not even sure it’s on the list. The vast majority of people are decent people who want to work and feel at the end of the day like they’ve done something worthwhile. There are freeloaders on this planet, but I’m pretty sure you will find they are spread out evenly amongst all the races and religions and so on, and if anything, the people who leave behind their families and everything they’ve known all their lives to go start anew in country, risking their lives in the process, well…they are probably – as a demographic – a little LESS likely to be freeloaders. You don’t go through all that just for an inadequate amount of food stamps.

    I think the idea of spending $14 billion – or whatever the number is, I don’t even care – on a wall that won’t stop them from coming in anyway is just preposterous. But I don’t even take it the least bit seriously since nobody in government takes it seriously either. It isn’t happening, now or ever.

    Besides, net immigration from Mexico has been zero to below zero for several years. Immigration isn’t a real issue. It’s a deflection.

    #55737
    bnw
    Blocked

    From the look of that a wall wouldn’t have worked. Should have sited the roadway through better terrain.

    Which, of course, was my point. A wall wouldn’t work anyway.

    Not in that location. A better location might not need any stabilization effort.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #55741
    sdram
    Participant

    I do not care about immigration.

    I know that the net is 0. I have 0 problems with immigrants. I care about it to the degree that I’d like them to work to settle it so it’s not a divisive issue in the next presidential election. I think there’s a chance they can find common ground to do that.

    #56139
    wv
    Participant

    Hillarys lead is even bigger in the polls now. AP poll has her up 14 points now.

    Saw this quote, btw:

    “…Donald Trump has spent his entire campaign running against the groups he needs to expand his coalition,” said Whit Ayres, a Republican pollster who advised Florida Sen. Marco Rubio’s failed presidential campaign. Ayres called Trump’s campaign “strategically mindless….
    …In North Carolina, a must-win state for Trump, Democrats lead Republicans in early ballots, 47 percent to 29 percent…
    ….In Florida, a perennial battleground, Democrats have drawn even to Republicans in votes cast, reaching that milestone faster than in 2012. Traditionally, Republicans do well initially with mail-in ballots. But Democrats were able to keep it close, putting Clinton in position to run up the score during in-person voting.

    Clinton also appears to hold an edge in Nevada and Colorado based on early returns. David Flaherty, a Republican pollster based in Colorado, said the data signal “a Democrat wave in the making.”

    Buoyed by support from white voters, Trump looks strong in Ohio, Iowa and Georgia, a Republican state where Clinton is trying to make inroads. But wins in those states would still leave him well short of the required 270 Electoral College votes…”

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    #56140
    nittany ram
    Moderator

    Didn’t Carter have a bigly lead over Reagan in the polls with only a few weeks to go in 1980?

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