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  • #161516
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    A birds-eye angle on the miracle-throw

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    #161519
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    #161522
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    Angle 427. This might actually be the best angle of the CB and Receiver.

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    #161524
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    A birds-eye angle on the miracle-throw

    The most talked-about tying TD pass of all time.

    In that game CW was 23 of 42 for 257 yards and a 6.1 avg. per throw, w/ 2 TDs and 3 INTs, and a qb rating of 59.3. The cold got to him too. His season averages were 27 TDs & 7 INTs.

    But he did throw the most talked-about tying TD pass of all time.

    I of course acknowledge that play, and even in a perverse way am glad I saw it in real time because it really was spectacular, but as a Rams homer I also like that Stafford was clutch when it counted.

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    Angle 427. This might actually be the best angle of the CB and Receiver.

    Looks to me like Durant just misread the trajectory of the ball.

    #161528
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    A birds-eye angle on the miracle-throw

    The most talked-about tying TD pass of all time.

    In that game CW was 23 of 42 for 257 yards and a 6.1 avg. per throw, w/ 2 TDs and 3 INTs, and a qb rating of 59.3. The cold got to him too. His season averages were 27 TDs & 7 INTs.

    But he did throw the most talked-about tying TD pass of all time.

    I of course acknowledge that play, and even in a perverse way am glad I saw it in real time because it really was spectacular, but as a Rams homer I also like that Stafford was clutch when it counted.

    Yep. I thought the game was over when Williams turned his back to the line of scrimmage and ran the other way. The most talked-about tying TD pass of all time didn’t trigger a sinking feeling in me at all. I couldn’t even be mad about it. It was too spectacular to respond negatively.

    And, anyway, the Rams won in large part because Williams got greedy the next time he had the ball. He had the RB open as a safety valve that would have moved the Bears 5 or 6 yards to make it 3rd and 2 or 3. Instead, Williams threw the ball to where only Curl could catch it. Williams believed he was magic. He learned that he is not.

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    Yep. I thought the game was over when Williams turned his back to the line of scrimmage and ran the other way. The most talked-about tying TD pass of all time didn’t trigger a sinking feeling in me at all. I couldn’t even be mad about it. It was too spectacular to respond negatively.

    And, anyway, the Rams won in large part because Williams got greedy the next time he had the ball. He had the RB open as a safety valve that would have moved the Bears 5 or 6 yards to make it 3rd and 2 or 3. Instead, Williams threw the ball to where only Curl could catch it. Williams believed he was magic. He learned that he is not.

    I agree with those 2 observations. Or, as the kids like to say, “+1”

    I included CW’s stats from that game, but Stafford was not that different.

    He too got 6.1 per throw, same as CW. He was 20 of 42 while Wms was 23 of 42, but then (I assume you saw the game), when Rams were in range for their first FG, he kept throwing it out of the endzone. I took it he was under orders to play it safe and not do anything that jeopardized the FG, so he just threw it away 3 times in a row. Stafford got 133 yards in YAC, CW got 134.

    The cold got to them both,Then, though, CW’s WRs had 4 drops and the Rams had one (previously it was said the Rams had none but PFR has it as 1). Stafford was sacked 4 times–though he faced a lower pressure rate than CW (19.6% v. 24.4%). But the big deal was 3 INTs.

    #161531
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    Looks to me like Durant just misread the trajectory of the ball.

    I’d love to hear Durant’s perspective on this. But yeah, definitely. I mean, part of it is the push-off, but its the kind of push-off that happens on most plays. It doesnt explain the play fully. I mean an instant AFTER the ball is released the receiver does NOT go to where the ball is heading — he instead zigs to right, away from the ball. (I guess he is trying to draw the CB away from the ball or maybe he just hasnt picked up the trajectory of the ball, himself. I dunno). But the ball is SO F’ing high in the air, that the receiver then zags back toward the ball. The DB had plenty of time to close the space. But the DB just kinda stands there, seemingly lost.

    I dunno. Its such an iconic play, i hope some tv-celebrity interviews both players at some point. I’m just curious about it. Its an odd ending to a hail-mary, imho.

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    #161532
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    I’d love to hear Durant’s perspective on this. But yeah, definitely. I mean, part of it is the push-off, but its the kind of push-off that happens on most plays. It doesnt explain the play fully. I mean an instant AFTER the ball is released the receiver does NOT go to where the ball is heading — he instead zigs to right, away from the ball. (I guess he is trying to draw the CB away from the ball or maybe he just hasnt picked up the trajectory of the ball, himself. I dunno). But the ball is SO F’ing high in the air, that the receiver then zags back toward the ball. The DB had plenty of time to close the space. But the DB just kinda stands there, seemingly lost.

    I dunno. Its such an iconic play, i hope some tv-celebrity interviews both players at some point. I’m just curious about it. Its an odd ending to a hail-mary, imho.

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    That most recent film is interesting because you can watch Kmet and Durant the whole play, and what I noticed is that after the play breaks down, and Williams is sprinting full tilt towards Mexico, Durant focuses on the backfield and keeps Kmet in the corner of his eye. When the pushoff occurs – based on the network film angles – it looked to me like standard-issue disentanglement. Kmet may have technically pushed off, but he didn’t get much mustard on that push. Durant was already leaning to the goal line in anticipation, and Kmet’s push does not account for the final 3 yards of separation. Durant just didn’t get the trajectory right in the split second, leaned the wrong way, and that left Kmet open for an uncontested catch. I can’t be mad at Durant for that play, either. JFC. This is just an example of a superior human athlete making a superior human athletic throw combined with really good fortune of Kmet and Durant being exactly where they were geographically at that instant in the great timespan of the universe.

    So it goes.

    Credit McVay for getting the team to be a goldfish. Forget it. Be present. Be now. Go get ’em.

    This is what makes sports great. This is why we watch. There is the drama of the plot, and there is the spectacular superior human athletic WTF mind-boggling wonder that peppers the dish. I’m done mixing metaphors now. It’s time to pop this post in the oven and wait for the floods to recede.

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    The cold got to them both,Then, though, CW’s WRs had 4 drops and the Rams had one (previously it was said the Rams had none but PFR has it as 1). Stafford was sacked 4 times–though he faced a lower pressure rate than CW (19.6% v. 24.4%). But the big deal was 3 INTs.

    My eyeballs agree. Stafford and Williams played to a draw in many respects, but the INTs were big. I think the short yardage stops are the #1 thing I would point to as the difference-maker, though. The Bears would have won the game in regulation if not for those huge plays that went the Rams’ way, and there would have been only 2 INTs.

    The Rams may have had one drop, but there should be a statistic that tracks Net Hands Value or something. Drops and Catches should get a value score because not all drops and catches are the same. A 3rd down drop by a wide open receiver that would have picked up 30 yards, but instead leads to a punt, should count as more than 1 drop. And the way I see it, Adams’ sideline catch should get a Net Hands Value of 4 catches. That catch was athletically extraordinary, and had immense importance for the winning drive.

    You can’t make this shit up, people. That’s Entertainment.

    #161535
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    …and Durant just didn’t get the trajectory right in the split second,

    Credit McVay for getting the team to be a goldfish. Forget it. Be present. Be now. Go get ’em.

    Maybe Durant just couldnt conceive of the fact that Caleb could rocket the ball, that high, that far. I dunno.

    Anyway. Yeah, credit McVay and the Rams for not counting their chickens before the horse was beaten.

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    #161551
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    I’m just putting this up cause of the early clip of Durant and the Bears TE on the great GW tying TD pass.

    #161559
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    Even Bears players were impressed with the Davante catch.

    Has there been a ‘better’ pass-and-catch by a Ram ?

    Puka has made some great catches. Ellard made some great ones over the middle back when that was downright dangerous. Jack Snow made some good ones i still remember.

    I dunno…I might have to put the Stafford/Davante play at the top of my own personal list.
    Its either that one or the Proehl pass/catch.

    #161560
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    First words: Oh shit.
    Second words : Why was he open like that.

    #161561
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    Has there been a ‘better’ pass-and-catch by a Ram ?

    Well, it’s not like that catch was on a drive that ended up tying a game.

    So how impressive is it, really?

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    #161599
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    “It felt like a pop fly; a lot of those DBs just have a tough time tracking” the ball….

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