Centrists on BLM and Cops

waterfield wrote:

Well-to be honest I found each of those features to be quite candid and persuasive and consistent with my opinions on the subject. I also did not hear any one of them say they do not support BLM. Their concern is how people with a preconceived notion bias will affect their reaction to a black being killed during an interaction with the police.

A preconceived notion bias is where some will look at that video and take it to mean these scholars do not support BLM or somehow are defending criminal cops when in fact more than one calls these cops murderers. Whether it fits one’s preconceive notion bias or not the truth of the matter is that there are justifiable actions involving cops killing blacks and there are justifiable actions involving cops killing whites.

It’s also a preconceived notion bias when one turns the percentage data on its head to support their bias as was explained by the Columbia professor.

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Well i thought you would agree with them. I think a ton of people would agree with them.

I think they get some things right, and some things wrong. I think Adolph Reed Jr, has a better take on things. He would overlap some of their views, but diverge on some fundamental stuff.

The main problem I (as a leftist) have with them is this — Yes, they are right to point out that Race does not explain the Facts/Stats.
Plenty of POOR-whites are killed by police.
And yes, plenty of POOR-blacks kill other POOR-blacks. Many more than the Cops are killing.

Yes. Those are indeed facts, and they are facts that get ignored by the “Race explains everything” crowd. (And the rightwingers make a lot of headway by pointing that out. And the libs lose ground by ignoring that, perhaps)

But here’s where those centrists in the vid (thats what I’m calling them)Fail. They dont say a word about how all those POOR people ended up POOR. They dont talk about the desperation and hopeless situation the poor are in. They dont talk about how CAPITALISM sets up the poor for all kinds of tense encounters with the Police. The sins of Capitalism are invisible to the Centrists. Its all about ‘individual’ failings of individual poor people, both black and white.

I’d also add this — the vid shows centrists talking about KILLINGS. Only killings. They do not talk about all the times black people are pulled over, accused of crimes, harassed, etc, etc, etc. They seem to ignore the facts on that dynamic completely. Its not just about Killings.

So, i would say, the Centrists in that Vid did some minimizing of the Race-problem, and they totally ignored how the capitalist-system creates a poor, desperate, stressed, UnderClass, which is vulnerable to ugly encounters with authority, such as Police.

37 More Days to the Election. Keep your fingers crossed.

PS — we all have ‘preconceived biases.’ There’s no escape from them. You have them. I have them. We all have them. There’s no such thing as not having them.

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Another avenue that progressives talk about all the time, is the link between Race and Poverty. There’s all kinds of facts/reasons why so many African-Americans ended up poor. A LOT of the reasons have to do with various forms of systemic-Racism.

So, you end up with ==>
1) Racism spawned Poverty. Or at least racism is a significant part of the problem of poverty. Not all, but a big part. (The rest of it, is just the evil of Capitalism)

2)And then Poverty spawns People Living in POVERTY WITH STRESS, Stress, STRESS. Depression/Anger/Hopelessnes/frustration/bad-or-no-medical-care/drug-use/Etc.
Poverty also means people have a hard time paying for Car Inspections, Car Insurance, Drivers License Fees, etc. All kinds of Car stuff.
Poverty is a shit-storm, in and of itself.
Its been my experience that middle-class and wealthy white people simply Do..Not…Get…the ‘stress’ poor people live with every single day.

3) So then you have Race/Poverty meets….the Police.

What would we predict would happen?

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