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  • #65616
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    from Estimating the odds 10 teams use franchise tags, including three stone-cold locks

    Jason La Canfora

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/estimating-the-odds-10-teams-use-franchise-tags-including-three-stone-cold-locks/

    Rams CB Trumaine Johnson
    Chances he’s tagged: 75%

    Johnson is both costly to keep and too valuable to lose.
    This situation is a little tricky. Like Cousins, Johnson was tagged by his team a year ago. Thus he would be guaranteed a 20-percent raise over last season, and his personal tag in 2017 would be roughly $16 million — considerably more than other corners.
    But the Rams are in a bind. When they tagged Johnson a year ago, then let Janoris Jenkins walk — and he went on to have a splendid season for big money with the playoff-bound Giants. The prospect of losing Johnson, and subsequently being out two top corners on a team that is absolutely predicated on having a top defense given the dire state of its offense, would be damning.
    If Johnson gets away, there are no guarantees the Rams land one of a handful of other free agent corners who one might try to claim is a true No. 1 corner. And even then, to what degree will they have to overpay to get once of these corners they don’t already know inside and out?
    There isn’t anything much going on between these sides, but after being willing to overpay to keep guys like Tavon Austin in the recent past, entering the offseason with a void at corner might not be the best way to go.

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    alyoshamucci wrote this:

    I’m fine with it. The CB position affects our pass rush …. Having a weak starter and a rookie (which is the other option) would weaken our entire defense.

    I know some say that there are options in FA, but Bouye is going to get tagged and most others are simply not high enough quality.

    What I don’t get is how we as fans get spoiled by quality play and then dismiss positions that are vital to the overall offense or defense. Pickett? Fletcher?

    Tag him if we need to, and try to sign him long term, but for goodness sake, don’t weaken Donald and Quinn’s pass rush by having zero capable starters on the outside. Do that AND draft an impact rookie in the 2nd that can benefit from playing opposite Tru for a year, then if he wants to leave, let him.

    Letting quality players we drafted get away irks me like no other thing.

    #65621
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    from PFF: 5 FREE AGENTS ABOUT TO GET OVERPAID

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-5-free-agents-about-to-get-overpaid/?utm_content=buffer037c6&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=nfl

    Which 2017 free agents are about to receive big pad-days, despite the questions marks they bring to the table?

    Every year there are players who hit the open market and end up getting dramatically overpaid, costing teams in the long run and never justifying the dollar figure that gets attached to them. Here are a group of players likely to fit that billing in 2017.

    5. Trumaine Johnson, CB, Los Angeles Rams

    The league has a love affair at the moment with big, tall, long cornerbacks—the type of athletes that can at least attempt to go one-on-one with players like Julio Jones athletically and live to tell the tale. Trumaine Johnson, at 6-foot-2 and 208 pounds, has that prototypical size and length, but remains an inconsistent player on the field. At his best, he looks like a player worthy of those measurables, but that guy doesn’t appear on tape every week of the season, and in 2016, he allowed four touchdowns while picking off just one pass and breaking up another six. He has only allowed fewer than 60 percent of the passes thrown his way to be caught once in a season, and his career mark in that statistic is 61.2 percent, which would have ranked 61st in the NFL this season.

    #65622
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    I am not going to use the tag on Johnson. I sort of figure that the Browns will out bid us for Johnson and McDonald. I hope we have enough draft picks to find some good DBs.

    Agamemnon

    #65624
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    I hope we have enough draft picks to find some good DBs.

    I don;t know if you;ve been reading up on the draft yet.

    Deep deep draft both at safety and corner.

    link: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/2017-draft-defined-by-depth/

    #65625
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    i think they should tag him and hopefully eventually re-sign him. then draft a free safety.

    #65628
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    I don’t know whether they will keep Johnson, or which way the advantage lies. But Phillips is used to taking over defenses and converting them quickly based mostly on what is already there. That’s a consideration.

    I think the Rams have a deep but young secondary with or without Johnson. I doubt they would bring in an expensive FA if they let Johnson go. I count Joyner as a great slot corner/nickel safety and they played better with him in there than when he wasn’t. To me Alexander would be fine at SS…so I don;t know if they need McDonald.

    Surprisingly they actually have a lot at corner—Gaines, Hill, Countess, Jordan, Peterson, Short—and that was under a coach who has always been good at developing DBs (Wms of course) and as I said before this is a crazy deep draft for CBs and safeties, particularly free safeties.

    So, while we don’t know yet at this point exactly what they will have, IMO it;s a stronger position than I think many people give it credit for being.
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    #65630
    JackPMiller
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    I like Dez Lawerence with our first 4th rounder. Good size CB. Also, I believe we can sign Dre Kirkpatrick. Give him a 4 year $24 million $12 million guarantee, and he’ll come in and say how much he wanted to be a Ram. Money changes things.

    #65640
    Avatar photoEternal Ramnation
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    Hopefully they can get the O going well enough to not need a D that can hold teams to 10 points. I’d rather see them sign him to a nice contract than tag him again. Also he wasn’t near as good without Jenks last year. If the Browns crazy outbid us it’s probably a good idea to let him go, the Browns aren’t known for wise personnel decisions.

    #65647
    Avatar photosnowman
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    Transition year for the team, they are highly unlikely to be competitive this coming season, so why spend $16 million on an above average corner for just one season? It doesn’t make sense to me.

    #65654
    Avatar photoEternal Ramnation
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    Transition year for the team, they are highly unlikely to be competitive this coming season, so why spend $16 million on an above average corner for just one season? It doesn’t make sense to me.

    Especially if we can bring in a #1wr with that money. Oh well I guess it’s already a done deal they’re going to tag him. Snow we’re going to have to work on your handle , I’ve seen more snow in my fridge than outside!

    #65707
    Avatar photosnowman
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    Transition year for the team, they are highly unlikely to be competitive this coming season, so why spend $16 million on an above average corner for just one season? It doesn’t make sense to me.

    Especially if we can bring in a #1wr with that money. Oh well I guess it’s already a done deal they’re going to tag him. Snow we’re going to have to work on your handle , I’ve seen more snow in my fridge than outside!

    Hey! We got a couple of inches! (that’s what she said) And it’s melting already…

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