Can Davis rebound

If the Rams can run the ball — he’ll rebound.
If not, he wont 🙂

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Without playing in any regular season NFL game before this season, Austin Davis this year in 8 games is 163 completions out of 254 passing attempts (64.2%) for 1785 yards (7.0 average). He has 11 TDs and 7 INTs. His passer rating is 87.8.
Doubling everything he would end the season with 326 completions out of 508 attempts (64.2%) for 3570 yards (7.0 average). He would have 22 TDs and 14 INTs. His passer rating would still be 87.8.

For comparisons, Sam Bradford in his rookie year, 2010 was 354 completions out of 590 passing attempts (60.0%) for 3512 yards (6.0 average). He had 18 TDs and 15 INTs. with a 70.5 passer rating.

So it would seem to me that Austin Davis is on track for a slightly better year than Bradford had as a rookie.

And yet there are people who think Austin Davis has reached his ceiling. That he cannot improve. That he might not be able to “come back” after what they consider a sub-par game. This is the same Austin Davis who went from being cut a year ago to becoming the starting QB this year and producing numbers like our former NFL offensive rookie of the year. Really? He has shown he has the ability to improve his game greatly. He has shown a great work ethic in doing so. And people are already ready to write him off after only a half of season.

SORRY, I JUST DON’T GET THE LOGIC (OR LACK THEREOF).

I don ‘t know where Davis’s ceiling is. But I am pretty sure he has not reached it. Nor will he reach it this year and probably not next year. He will keep improving for a while yet.

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InvaderRam wrote:
i think he’s got the physical skills. i think at this point it’s just learning the position. if he can continue to grow into the position he’ll be fine. if not then rams are looking for a new qb.

I try to be as objective as I can in my first post in this thread.

BUt this is a complicated issue and I have mixed feelings.

Personally, I don’t like the idea of this season becoming the “see if Davis can play project.”

I am very “win now.” They have the future in which to figure out the future. Or to put that more narrowly, they have the off-season to figure out the next season.

If it were me and he falters again, I would just start Hill. I wouldn;t even hesitate.

From what I saw of Hill in this offense, he can play, and his strengths as a qb are pretty much the opposite of Davis’s weaknesses.

It is fair and realistic, I think, to ask if AD can rebound.

But. My “win now” attitude also has me wary of that. So he doesn’t have too long to prove he can, in my book.

Yeah, i agree with that.

I dont think Fisher is playing Davis just to
“see if he can play.” Fisher is always in
win-now mode it seems to me.

If AustinD sucks again next week,
i think Fisher will switch.
Though, i’m not sure its a good thing
to be the QB that gets to start against Denver.

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InvaderRam wrote:

i don’t know. fisher made it pretty clear davis was the starter going forward. i don’t think that means he’s not trying to win, but i do believe he needs to determine what exactly they have in davis.

or maybe davis sucks again next week, and they determine he’s not starting qb material…

Well, when Fisher made that statement AustinD was
looking purty good, i think. He aint looked
good in a while, and it dont look like he’s
improving to me. Looks like he’s got limitations.

I no longer think he can be “the guy.”

He’s certainly not a ‘bum’ though. He’s
fiesty, and hangs in there, and can
spin around and extend plays and make some
throws. But when he has to stay in the pocket
he’s startin to remind me of Pat Haden,
who was also fiesty and a gamer, but not
“the guy” cause he had limitations.

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• This reply was modified 10 years ago by wv.

Herzog wrote:

Man he is playing a LOT of top 5 defenses lately, without Quick now. If he can cut down on the int’s, than he’s my guy…. But he has to cut down on them

Yes, he’s played tough defenses,
without Quick. And no-one can tell the future, so, sure,
maybe he will end up improving and being a
good starter.

But my eyeballs have made me skeptical.
Sure looks to me like teams have figured out
what he does best and they’ve taken it away.
I no longer think he will turn out to be
a quality starter.
But who knows.
I hope he turns out to be the next
Kenny Anderson.

At any rate, if the rams can
rush the passer and run the ball
they can win with a decent
“game manager-QB”

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• This reply was modified 10 years ago by wv.

TackleDummy wrote:

Without playing in any regular season NFL game before this season, Austin Davis this year in 8 games is 163 completions out of 254 passing attempts (64.2%) for 1785 yards (7.0 average). He has 11 TDs and 7 INTs. His passer rating is 87.8.
Doubling everything he would end the season with 326 completions out of 508 attempts (64.2%) for 3570 yards (7.0 average). He would have 22 TDs and 14 INTs. His passer rating would still be 87.8.

For comparisons, Sam Bradford in his rookie year, 2010 was 354 completions out of 590 passing attempts (60.0%) for 3512 yards (6.0 average). He had 18 TDs and 15 INTs. with a 70.5 passer rating.

So it would seem to me that Austin Davis is on track for a slightly better year than Bradford had as a rookie.

And yet there are people who think Austin Davis has reached his ceiling. That he cannot improve. That he might not be able to “come back” after what they consider a sub-par game. This is the same Austin Davis who went from being cut a year ago to becoming the starting QB this year and producing numbers like our former NFL offensive rookie of the year. Really? He has shown he has the ability to improve his game greatly. He has shown a great work ethic in doing so. And people are already ready to write him off after only a half of season.

SORRY, I JUST DON’T GET THE LOGIC (OR LACK THEREOF).

I don ‘t know where Davis’s ceiling is. But I am pretty sure he has not reached it. Nor will he reach it this year and probably not next year. He will keep improving for a while yet.

Apples and oranges. There is a huge difference in the quality of players (and coaches) that Bradford had around him his rookie year compared to what Davis has now.

My take is a little different.(shocking aint it) I saw the 9er game as a rebound from the KC game.Davis took a beating in that game and the 9ers got him to a lot in the first game. He came out and panicked he did, that is clear. But you know what Britt didn’t quit on his route his OL battered and bruised as it was didn’t quit on him either. The D that had disintegrated several times in the second half didn’t falter. They,the whole team had his back, they want him at QB. On Hill he has way way way more experience and I think he reads Defenses better but arm strength is at most a wash ,mobility isn’t even close and durability,Hill’s carted off the field in KC. Hill is old and nowhere near the athlete Davis is.

zn wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>InvaderRam wrote:</div>
i think he’s got the physical skills. i think at this point it’s just learning the position. if he can continue to grow into the position he’ll be fine. if not then rams are looking for a new qb.

I try to be as objective as I can in my first post in this thread.

BUt this is a complicated issue and I have mixed feelings.

Personally, I don’t like the idea of this season becoming the “see if Davis can play project.”

I am very “win now.” They have the future in which to figure out the future. Or to put that more narrowly, they have the off-season to figure out the next season.

If it were me and he falters again, I would just start Hill. I wouldn;t even hesitate.

From what I saw of Hill in this offense, he can play, and his strengths as a qb are pretty much the opposite of Davis’s weaknesses.

It is fair and realistic, I think, to ask if AD can rebound.

But. My “win now” attitude also has me wary of that. So he doesn’t have too long to prove he can, in my book.

Totally agree.

I was surprised Hill didn’t play after the 2nd pick last week vs SF.

I wonder if there is some type of rift between Hill and Fisher? The RAMS went out and signed Hill for this exact scenario. IMO Davis = Clemmens.

I doubt Davis can pull it out. I don’t see the talent there.

Be glad to be wrong.

laram wrote:

Shotty is doing the game planning wv, Fisher has said himself that he will occasionally make in game suggestions, but its on the OC.

So the OC reigned Davis in.

Davis is making awful decisions, and even though he has played better defenses lately, there were many. many plays that he left on the field. The OC has down a tremendous job of drawing up plays and Davis is pissing them away. I’m talking routine plays he’s missing, not anything extraordinary that you would expect from an elite qb.

It makes me ill because I’m ready to win games, past ready.

IF Fisher was in “win now” mode he would go back to Hill.
Unfortunately he painted himself into a corner and probably won’t!

Always good to see you on the board, La.

Yeah, i’ve been disappointed in Austin lately.
I was excited about him after the first few games,
but i thiink i over-valued his escape-from-the-pocket-trick.

Ah well.

Do you think Chris Long will make any difference
on the D, when he comes back?

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If Chris can comeback quickly, “physically” I think he can wv.

That will allow Hayes to be fresher and will increase his productivity as well.

The thing about Sunday is Williams calmed the heck down. He only blitzed 40% of the snaps vs the high numbers prior.

The Rams had 7 of their 8 sacks from the front four.

That’s encouraging.

Unfortunately they have to get more from the offense or they won’t repeat Sunday.