Bradford to Eagles, Foles to Rams

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Eagles will trade Nick Foles and draft picks to the Rams in exchange for Sam Bradford.

Eagle fan, on Foles
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To put it simply, Chip Kelly never wanted Foles as his QB. He made a big deal of talking about how he didn’t need particular types of players, but he went out of his way to show otherwise. He gave the job to Vick, who struggled. Foles came in the second half of the giants game and led the team to its second victory. Foles then lit up the BUCs scoring 4 TDs (one rushing) and Chip wouldn’t commit. Foles thenngot concussed and had a horrid game against the cowboys. Vick came back and got hurt again against the Giants, giving Kelly no choice but to play him. Foles then threw 7 TDS and made it impossible to bench him.

Last year, Foles struggled but it was not soley his fault. He was playing behind a mess of an offensive line with only Jason Peters playing at several points. Lesean McCoy struggled mightily at certain points giving less than 20 rushing yards in two different games. The idea that the box was always being stacked is incorrect. Teams were rushing four guys and dropping into coverage because they were facing three, or in some cases, four backup linemen and able to get pressure.

It should be noted that Foles was hurt against the Redskins in Week 3 after a cheap shot and I believe he played hurt until the collarbone finally broke against the Texans. I cannot prove this is true, but he looked different after that game.

I wish you guys luck with him. I think he is legitimately capable of being a top ten QB and he should improve your team. I was honestly expecting Andy Reid to make another attempt at trading for him.

http://overthecap.com/eagles-trade-sam-bradford/

The Eagles will take on the final remaining year of Bradford’s contract which is currently valued at $12.985 million. The Eagles could extend him or renegotiate that figure down to be more in line with his more recent production. Considering they just traded for him I would imagine a short term extension is more likely than a pay cut unless Bradford is just looking for a change of scenery and was willing to take a cut to make the deal happen.

The Rams will carry $3.595 million in cap charges for Bradford, but that will represent a savings of $12.985 million. Foles costs next to nothing this year, just $1.542 million. Foles is also in the final year of his contract and could be extended if the Rams view him as their long term solution. Extending Foles now, if they believe strongly in him, will result in a better contract for the Rams if he were to play out his deal and succeed.

According to http://overthecap.com/calculator/st-louis-rams , if you cut Long and Wells and trade Bradford, we wind up with $25,984,097 in 2015, $70,115,005 in 2016 and $108,294,157 in 2017 for available cap.

So after spending about $1,542,000 on Foles and setting aside a few million on the draft, who we buying with the remaining $21 million plus on? Better not be saved for stadium cushions in LA. I am hoping they get busy (and productive) in either new signings or get busy with contract restructuring/extensions (FA16: Brockers, Sims, Barron, Zuerlein — FA17: Chris Long).

• This reply was modified 9 years, 9 months ago by RamsMaineiac.

Mike Sando, ESPN.com ‏@SandoESPN
#Eagles OC Pat Shurmur had same job with #Rams when team drafted Sam Bradford in 2010, so familiarity there.

canadaram wrote:

Like many here I am a Bradford fan and see him as a QB capable of taking a team to the playoffs. His redzone play has been solid, he’s not prone to turnovers and he’s got a great arm. If he stays healthy he will be a good player wherever he ends up. Having said that, I am ambivalent about this trade. Foles has shown that he can play well in the NFL too. He played wounded last year, the guy is tough.

So many things have changed. The Rams no longer have any shot
at the two big WRs, but I guess they were not interested in them
anyway. I assume they have the money to sign Britt now.
I’d expect that to get done soon.

Signing Kendricks will go unnoticed but he’s the kind
of tough, smart role player ya need.

I thot it was interesting what Chris Long said
in his social-cyber-text-whatever-thingy. He said
the Rams “are in WIN NOW” mode. I wonder
if Foles will have to learn a new system
or if he already knows the Rams offensive system.
Seems to me that is an important issue
if you are in ‘win now’ mode.

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• This reply was modified 9 years, 9 months ago by wv.

Winnbrad wrote:

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http://overthecap.com/eagles-trade-sam-bradford/

The Eagles will take on the final remaining year of Bradford’s contract which is currently valued at $12.985 million. The Eagles could extend him or renegotiate that figure down to be more in line with his more recent production. Considering they just traded for him I would imagine a short term extension is more likely than a pay cut unless Bradford is just looking for a change of scenery and was willing to take a cut to make the deal happen.

The Rams will carry $3.595 million in cap charges for Bradford, but that will represent a savings of $12.985 million. Foles costs next to nothing this year, just $1.542 million. Foles is also in the final year of his contract and could be extended if the Rams view him as their long term solution. Extending Foles now, if they believe strongly in him, will result in a better contract for the Rams if he were to play out his deal and succeed.

And do the Rams now pick at 20 instead of 10?

If true, its annoying, but still, they just need OLinemen.
And you can find a powerhouse of an Olineman at 20, I would think.

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Jim Thomas ‏@jthom1 44m44 minutes ago

I’m told by Rams that Bradford-Foles trade does NOT involve swap of first-round picks.

Most Excellent.

Saw this, btw:

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On .NFL Inisers @ 4:02 ET Mort said that the Rams are getting Foles AND draft compensation. Although not confirmed, ESPN ran it across the “breaking news” for the past 15 mins until I left the house @ 4:45.

Mort said the Rams could get “as high as a 2nd rounder”.

If true, we raped the Iggles.

I am pretty happy about this.

I always liked Sam, and I backed last year’s bet.

This year is different. His knees cannot be trusted. And he is on his last year. It’s a lame duck year for the guy, and, unlike many here, I never expected much. I just do not trust him to be healthy.

What do we get? A healthy young QB with indications of a possible high ceiling. But, a cuttable guy if he doesn’t work out. AND, a reversion to the normal QB roster challenge. To make a good bet on the year, we don’t need TWO starter-worthy QBs. A true BUP and/or a rookie developmental guy constitute due diligence. That is a far more doable roster challenge than trying to cover another bet on Sam’s knees.

I also like what it says about our FO. They realized all along that Sam’s health is not worthy of an uncovered bet. They took proactive steps to take advantage of really the only viable starting QB available. AND they have now cleared a helluva lot of cap space.

Think of it. We can now afford 2 or 3 good FAs for our OL and, perhaps, WR, DT or CB.

This move is a sound upgrading of our roster, folks. I really like it.

It may not work out. Foles may fail and Sam may thrive in Philly. OK. I won’t beef. We have stabilized our roster, gotten out from under Sam’s salary, and can address the future.

Now, 2 steps remain:

1. Build up the OL.

2. Draft a promising QB–Grayson, for my tastes.

Do that, and I will sing the FO’s praises on the off-season.

Well, if the Rams are getting draft compensation, OK, I can see logic to this. Use your extra capital in the draft to move and get the developmental QB you covet (outside of Winston, who will go No. 1 and is unreachable). But, the Rams have to get another QB in addition to Foles. If it comes in the draft, I’d have to say it’s a 1st- or 2nd-rounder.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagles/Foles-era-over-Bradford-coming-but-is-Chip-Done-dealing.html

“…The Eagles settled the long-running debate over whether Nick Foles is their quarterback of the future, as they neared completion Tuesday on a trade that will send him to St. Louis for QB Sam Bradford and what would seem to be a swap of second-round draft picks, a league source said, confirming a report by ESPN’s Adam Schefter.
Bradford, 27, the 2010 No. 1 overall pick, has missed the past two seasons with ACL tears and would seem just as poor a fit as Foles for the read-option part of Chip Kelly’s offense.

But will Bradford start? Or even stay? Getting a higher pick in the second round might make a move up in the draft for Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota a little more feasible, especially if there were a team such as, say, second overall-slotted Tennessee that wanted Bradford as part of a package.

Foles presumably will take the controls for Jeff Fisher in St. Louis, just a year after looking like he was the Eagles’ future. Foles, 26, led the Birds to the playoffs in 2013 while throwing an other-worldly 27 touchdown passes and just two interceptions. He was unable to match that success last season, with 13 touchdowns and 10 interceptions, before breaking his collarbone in the eighth game at Houston and missing the remainder of the year.

“Who knows? We’ll see,” Nick’s father, Larry, told the Daily News, when asked if this would be a good move for his son. “He loved the Eagles, thought it was going to be really good there. Things happen. He’s a big boy, he can handle it.

“He’s always been kind of the underdog, but he always rises to the occasion. Whatever happens, he’ll continue to make the most of it.

“You always want to go where you’re wanted…Life goes on.”

Bradford comes with a high salary — $12.5 million this year — but the Eagles have plenty of cap room.

The Eagles’ trade of LeSean McCoy to Buffalo for Kiko Alonso also became official at 4 p.m. At a press conference in Buffalo, McCoy said he found out he was traded last week when he woke up from a nap in Miami to see a blizzard of texts from friends. This would indicate he did not get the news from Kelly, though McCoy later said he “spoke with the owner” at some point.

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagles/Foles-era-over-Bradford-coming-but-is-Chip-Done-dealing.html#BEJAUjtTdmCAZYDm.99

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagles/Foles-era-over-Bradford-coming-but-is-Chip-Done-dealing.html#BEJAUjtTdmCAZYDm.99

OK, so there’s truth to a few reports. There’s a swap of draft picks this year, 5th to Philly for a 4th to STL. And, there’s a draft choice for the Rams — a 2nd rounder next year.

OK, seems like a fair trade, but that only highlights that Bradford has more value than Foles.

Here’s what I think. The Rams are planning to make a move for one of the QBs in this draft. Foles is a one-year rental if the Rams can find their QB of the future.

“nigga yo ass is trippin” Dude needs to work on those glutes.

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