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  • #15512
    Avatar photozn
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    How far can Luck go with the Colts?

    Right now, far enough to lead the Bengals (4th quarter).

    #15513
    Avatar photowv
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    Well Earl Morrall is out for the Colts
    so I dont think they are going anywhere
    with this Luck kid.

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    #15515
    Avatar photonittany ram
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    Karl Sweetan is out for the Lions but it doesn’t matter – 17-7 over the Cowboys at the half.

    #15517
    PA Ram
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    Looks like Dallas brought their refs.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #15518
    Avatar photonittany ram
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    Can you believe they picked up the flag on that PI?

    The NFL sure does want that Dallas vs Green Bay match-up next week, huh? 😉

    #15519
    PA Ram
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    Can you believe they picked up the flag on that PI?

    The NFL sure does want that Dallas vs Green Bay match-up next week, huh? ;)

    Just horrible.

    And obvious.

    They should have to explain that one.

    Plus the blatant holding they missed on the T.D.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #15520
    sdram
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    Amazed = Jerry has deep pockets.

    #15522
    PA Ram
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    I really can’t recall a year when officiating has been THIS bad.

    The NFL has to address it or they will start to lose disgusted fans.

    I don’t know–more replay challenges? More types of things challengeable? I don’t know but these guys on the field obviously can’t do the job and it looks either incompetent or corrupt. Either way, it’s bad for the league.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #15523
    PA Ram
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    At least Chris Christie is happy.

    r

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #15526
    znhater
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    My god, how obvious was that? I’ve been watching football over 40 years and never seen them pick up the flag after the call was made on the field. Normally, they converse first, then say no flag.

    Can we even trust football anymore? Just disgusting.

    #15527
    Avatar photozn
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    Refs give Cowboys a gift with pass interference no-call

    by Michael David Smith

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/04/refs-give-cowboys-a-gift-with-pass-interference-no-call/

    With the Lions facing third-and-1 at midfield in the fourth quarter today in Dallas, Matthew Stafford threw a pass to tight end Brandon Pettigrew. The pass fell incomplete, but the officials called pass interference, giving the Lions a first down.

    And then something bizarre happened: Referee Pete Morelli, who announced the pass interference call, didn’t enforce it. He signaled fourth down and didn’t explain why he was waving off the penalty on the Cowboys.

    It was obviously pass interference (and Pettigrew also had his jersey grabbed on the play, so it should have been defensive holding if it weren’t pass interference), but for some reason there was no penalty, and the Lions punted on fourth down.

    Former NFL head of officiating Mike Pereira, working the game for FOX, said he had never seen anything like it.

    “It is clearly pass interference,” Pereira said. “I strongly believe that was not a good pickup of a flag.”

    We’ll have to wait until after the game to find out what on earth Morelli was thinking when he called off the penalty. But he gave the Cowboys a huge gift in the fourth quarter of a close playoff game.

    #15534
    Avatar photozn
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    Refs give Cowboys a gift with pass interference no-call

    We’ll have to wait until after the game to find out what on earth Morelli was thinking when he called off the penalty. But he gave the Cowboys a huge gift in the fourth quarter of a close playoff game.



    Referee Pete Morelli explains controversial non-call in Lions-Cowboys

    Mike Florio

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/04/referee-pete-morelli-explains-controversial-non-call-in-lions-cowboys/

    With three wild-card games that lacked controversy, the last game of the weekend had enough for all four, and then some. After the Cowboys-Lions game, referee Pete Morelli explained the decision to pick up the flag in what appeared to be an obvious case of pass interference in a key moment as Detroit was driving in Dallas territory with a 20-17 lead.

    On third and one, Cowboys linebacker Anthony Hitchens appeared to interfere with Lions tight end Brandon Pettigrew. The flag was thrown, the foul was called, and then it all just went away.

    “The back judge threw his flag for defensive pass interference,” Morelli told pool reporter Todd Archer of ESPNDallas.com. “We got information from another official from a different angle that thought the contact was minimal and didn’t warrant pass interference. He thought it was face guarding.”

    Who thought it was face guarding?

    “The head lineman,” Morelli said.

    Asked what Morelli saw, he said, “It’s not my responsibility. I’m a hundred miles away.”

    Morelli pointed out that face guarding, which happens when a defender uses his arms to deliberately obstruct the receiver’s ability to see the ball, isn’t a foul in the NFL.

    “It is a penalty in college but not professional football,” Morelli said.

    Asked whether he should have waited to announce the call until the head linesman had a chance to chime in, Morelli said, “Probably, yes. . . . The information came and then the officials got together a little bit later, after it was given to me, the first information. It would have probably been smoother if we got together.”

    Morelli said the head linesman had the better view of the play. Regardless, replays showed that Hitchens did more than face guard Pettigrew. Some have suggested that Pettigrew committed interference of his own. Either way, a mistake was made — and the mistake made by Morelli in announcing the call before wiping it out compounded the first one.

    Coincidentally, NFL V.P. of officiating Dean Blandino will be a guest on the first PFT Live radio show on Monday. The play probably will be discussed. A little.

    #15551
    Avatar photoEternal Ramnation
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    #15552
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
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    #15554
    Avatar photojoemad
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    I don’t recall ever seeing a ref announce a penalty on his microphone, then huddle with his refs to pick up the flag…..

    huge play in that game.

    #15566
    Avatar photozn
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    from off the net

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    RamUK

    The NFL is not rigged! This argument makes zero sense on any level.

    Something called the availability heuristic means we recall events that stand out and are meaningful to us more easily, hence we forget things that do not.

    This is worsened by confirmation bias in which we look for things that affirm what we already believe, hence people forgetting the call that went against Dallas previously that was equally bad. And the overturning of the 1st down was dubious in my opinion. Did he make it? Probably, but it was far from conclusive.

    As another poster pointed out where was this favoritism for the last 20+ years when Dallas were sucking?

    For it to be true the owners would have to approve it and there is zero likelihood of other teams doing that.

    It also suggests not only is every single official corrupt, but that they can all keep a secret that would crush the NFL.

    That story would make anybody who broke it an instant celebrity and probably very wealthy.

    The PI call was just a blown call, not a conspiracy that would make Watergate look like child’s play.

    Saying Dallas doing well in the play offs is no more evidence of a fraud of biblical proportions being perpetrated than me saying I’d like more money means I’m planning a raid on Fort Knox.

    I feel gutted for Detroit and the poor officiating needs rectifying, but come on people, let’s drop the schoolboy notions because we’re pizzed.

    #15601
    Herzog
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    Vegas controls the Refs.

    #15614
    Dak
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    It was an awful decision to pick up the flag.

    But, Pettigrew also grabbed the defender’s face mask. Could have been offsetting penalties, but the offensive player’s part was never called by any official.

    I watched almost all of that game. I didn’t feel like the Cowboys got calls all game long, but they did seem to benefit late in the game.

    #15616
    Avatar photowv
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    It was an awful decision to pick up the flag.

    But, Pettigrew also grabbed the defender’s face mask. Could have been offsetting penalties, but the offensive player’s part was never called by any official.

    I watched almost all of that game. I didn’t feel like the Cowboys got calls all game long, but they did seem to benefit late in the game.

    Well i dont like either team, frankly,
    so I dont care which team cheated
    more effectively.

    The playoffs are awash with teams i dont like.

    Pats vs Ravens — dont like either team
    Broncos vs Colts — dont like either
    Seahawks vs Panthers — dont like either
    GB vs Cowboys — dont like the Cowboys.

    Guess that just leaves the Packers.
    I’m kinda “enh” on the Packers.

    Ah well.

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    #15617
    Avatar photozn
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    Pats vs Ravens — dont like either team
    Broncos vs Colts — dont like either
    Seahawks vs Panthers — dont like either
    GB vs Cowboys — dont like the Cowboys.

    Guess that just leaves the Packers.
    I’m kinda “enh” on the Packers.

    Ah well.

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    I like the Baltimore Browns. And, the Baltimore Colts. I think GB and Dallas will be a good game and don’t have nothin against either team. Though I agree with conventional wisdom and think that if either GB or Dallas beat Seattle, it would be a big upset.

    I am kind of hoping for an all Baltimore AFC final game. Ravens and Colts.

    #15621
    Avatar photowv
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    wv wrote:
    Pats vs Ravens — dont like either team
    Broncos vs Colts — dont like either
    Seahawks vs Panthers — dont like either
    GB vs Cowboys — dont like the Cowboys.

    Guess that just leaves the Packers.
    I’m kinda “enh” on the Packers.

    Ah well.

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    I like the Baltimore Browns. And, the Baltimore Colts. I think GB and Dallas will be a good game and don’t have nothin against either team. Though I agree with conventional wisdom and think that if either GB or Dallas beat Seattle, it would be a big upset.

    I am kind of hoping for an all Baltimore AFC final game. Ravens and Colts.

    Well, I think St. Louis and Los Angeles
    should compromise. They should build a stadium halfway
    between the two towns — Whats in between LA and St.Louis?
    Mexico? Let them play in Mexico.

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