Baldinger etc., no look passes, Forbes

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    Did Kurt ever do no-look passes? I dont remember him doing that. I know Roman didnt. Everett didnt.

    I wonder what the history of the ‘no-look pass’ is. How long has it been around? Who perfected it?

    I keep waiting for it to back=fire with Stafford. I wonder if it ever has.

    Best No-Look Passes in NFL History

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    WV, I don’t think Fitzpatrick should get credit for his no-look pass on that vid, but those other no look passes were very cool….

    I think Mahomes kind of made it a bit more common as he did it more frequently than Rodgers and Stafford, Kyler Murray also did it …….. no look passes have probably been around for years…

    Mahomes, is like the Magic Johnson of the NFL… players in the NBA did no look passes prior to Magic, but he did it much more frequently… Also, today’s TV technology captures these passes much more than they did in the past…

    Good stuff…

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    WV, I don’t think Fitzpatrick should get credit for his no-look pass on that vid, but those other no look passes were very cool….

    I think Mahomes kind of made it a bit more common as he did it more frequently than Rodgers and Stafford, Kyler Murray also did it …….. no look passes have probably been around for years…

    Mahomes, is like the Magic Johnson of the NFL… players in the NBA did no look passes prior to Magic, but he did it much more frequently… Also, today’s TV technology captures these passes much more than they did in the past…

    Good stuff…

    The Fitzpatrick one is hilarious.

    I think the NBA might very well be where the no-look stuff started.

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    I’ve been reading around, trying to understand why Washington gave up on Forbes, a first round pick. I mean, they gave up on him pretty fast. Basically, it looks like the new Wash coach Dan Quinn didnt draft him and didnt think he fit the new system. Quinn also got rid of three other high picks from the previous regime.

    “ESPN writer Bill Barnwell listed the Commanders drafting cornerback Emmanuel Forbes with the No. 16 overall pick in last year’s NFL Draft as the team’s biggest mistake this decade.”

    “Former Commanders First Round Pick Breaks Silence After Shocking Release…For Forbes and the Commanders, the backlash began with questions about his size — 6-foot-1 and 166 pounds — and what might happen when he faced NFL competition.

    The answers to that came quick and fast during his rookie season, which encompassed Forbes being benched several times and an embarrassing, Week 4 outing in which Philadelphia Eagles star A.J. Brown torched Forbes for 9 receptions, 175 yards and 2 touchdowns…According to PFF, Forbes graded out at 50.9% for his rookie season. He was also the worst cornerback in the NFL against the run with a 28.9% grade..”
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    “..Curl, a team source said, was particularly vocal in his assessment of Forbes. Position coaches leaned on Curl’s analysis and endorsement when speaking with the pro scouting department about whether to make the claim. Curl also picked Forbes up en route to his first practice on Wednesday..”

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    Forbes was selected by the Washington Commanders in the first round (16th overall) of the 2023 NFL draft.[12] His slim weight is a common point of discussion, with him being the only cornerback drafted since 2000 to weigh under 170 pounds at the NFL Combine.[14][20][21] He signed a fully guaranteed four-year $15.4 million contract on July 22, 2023.[22][23]

    Forbes recorded his first career interception in his second game, a 35–33 win over the Denver Broncos.[24] In the week 4 loss against the Philadelphia Eagles, he was criticized for his performance covering wide receiver A. J. Brown.[25] The following week, he was benched after multiple blown coverages against Chicago Bears wide receiver D. J. Moore.[26][27] In the first quarter of the week 10 game, Forbes was ejected after a helmet-to-helmet hit against Seattle Seahawks wide receiver Tyler Lockett.[28] The NFL fined him for $15,563 for his week 10 ejection.[29]

    Following the opening game of the 2024 season, Forbes underwent surgery to repair a torn ulnar collateral ligament (UCL) in his right thumb.[30] In the week 6 win over the Carolina Panthers, he recorded his second career interception against quarterback Andy Dalton.[31] Forbes was waived by the team on November 30, 2024.[32]

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    “..Curl, a team source said, was particularly vocal in his assessment of Forbes. Position coaches leaned on Curl’s analysis and endorsement when speaking with the pro scouting department about whether to make the claim. Curl also picked Forbes up en route to his first practice on Wednesday..”

    This bit was a little mysterious out of context. I couldn’t tell if that was Curl speaking negatively about Forbes while they were both with Washington, or Curl speaking positively of Forbes after Curl became a Ram. Turns out it’s the latter. As a Ram, Curl apparently beat the drum for the Rams signing Forbes.

    As a skinny guy, in Washington they had doubts about Forbes’ physicality and playing the run. I always saw it as a confidence issue. Confidence issues are interesting with pro players. It can look like they just lack the physical talent. After Goff lost his confidence in 2020, there were fans and analysts who swore he was just not an NFL caliber qb. They couldn’t distinguish confidence issues from seeing him as a “just plain ole bust.” I think the same happened with Forbes.

    On the other hand, Quinn actually encouraged Forbes when they released him.

    from https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/commanders/2024/12/02/washington-commanders-release-emmanuel-forbes-dan-quinn-why-nfl/76699281007/

    Quinn then said that he told Forbes a change of scenery could do him good.

    “And I had a chance to visit with him, and I explained to him sometimes that the change of scenery is good, and I’ve seen other players go to other clubs, and it turns out differently, and sometimes that’s a good thing. And I said that that can happen with you too. And so, I wanted to make sure he heard that from me, and there was even guys on his own team here that had started somewhere else as a first-round player and all of a sudden, just a different scenery and different shift. The new system can help. And so, we wanted to wish him best on this football journey wherever that goes from here.”


    The primary knock on Forbes coming out of the draft was his slight frame and inability to tackle consistently. That showed up repeatedly, but to make matters worse for Forbes, he struggled in coverage. He was never the same after Eagles star A.J. Brown beat him for multiple touchdowns in Week 4 of his rookie season.

    …Rivera’s disastrous coaching staff last season didn’t help Forbes; they ruined his confidence and benched him. Quinn and his staff had their work cut out trying to rebuild Forbes’ confidence while also trying to scheme around the concerns about his size.

    Among other things, Washington this year ranks 27th in pressure percentage. Rams rank 10th. That could be a huge difference too.

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    Among other things, Washington this year ranks 27th in pressure percentage. Rams rank 10th. That could be a huge difference too.

    Forbe’s comp in this vid — Coby Durant.

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