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I think I’m like you, though. I would root for the Surf for 5 years or so while rooting for the Jax/Stl Rams, and then stick with the laundry and decals and history. I had to do some soul-searching when the Rams left LA as I recall. Perhaps that was more complicated for me than you because I’m a Dodgers, Lakers, Kings fan in addition. But finally it floated to the surface to me that the zip code was irrelevant to me. I don’t live in SoCal anyway, any longer. So….city/laundry. I decided “laundry.”
You have exquisite taste in teams.
Just need to add Fresno St. to that list.
Either that or he’s been running a long con ever since his daughter got busted cheating at Mizzou
Just fact-checking. And only because everyone loves a fact-checker.
That wasn’t his daughter, it was the daughter of the daughter of Bud Walton (ie. the cheating daughter’s mother is Nancy Walton, who is Kroenke’s wife’s sister). And she cheated at USC, not Mizzou. The naming rights thing was a big deal, it just didn’t involve SK.
The fact checker has spoken.
Well, let’s say that St. Louis keeps the name, “Rams”.
If St. Louis doesn’t get a team for a few years the Rams cease to exist.
Maybe they never get a team.
Maybe they become the Oilers.
In a case like that I’d probably become a “Surf” fan since that’s where the players are I was following.
It would be weird.
Very weird.
Oooo…”the Rams cease to exist altogether” plotline.
Good one.
That will throw the Huddle into complete chaos. Probably already happening in one of the alternate universes.
Good listen. Marcellus Wiley is one of the more neutral and fair minded commentators I’ve listened to from any sports talk venue these past four years on this subject. He’s blatantly honest and for a long time he didn’t buy into the Rams moving thing but now he does and here he explains to Karraker and Farr why this is going to happen and why it will work in LA.
Same stuff I’ve been saying since this process started in February 2012 yet people here and other boards throw Shane Gray (laughable) into my face and Soka! Really. Time to smell the coffee folks cuz its happening.
Grits
…i wonder how a move would affect the players?
Distraction? Problems? Pluses? Minuses?Will they bring the equipment manager with them?
What if Fisher goes all Hollywood on us
and starts wearing a cape ?w
vThe team is my only concern. I’ve lived in NC and VA my entire life, so I don’t care which city the Rams play in.
But moving a team is a huge deal. Lots of like distractions. And this team has enough problems as it is.
EDIT: I would enjoy the cape, though.
see link “….The NFL recently decreed that there will be no relocation to Los Angeles by any team in 2015. And it appears the Rams will comply with that request. Team officials have told the Post-Dispatch that they will not file for relocation this year.
But if Kroenke changes his mind and moves without league approval, there are penalties involved that weren’t there in the ’80s and ’90s.
“The league has put in place a number of safeguards, if you will, which make it very, very, very hard for a team to … act as a rogue agent,” Trask said.
“These safeguards are really draconian. They involve financial penalties and other penalties that really should deter teams from doing things like that without (league approval).”
Among them are forfeitures of part of a team’s annual share of leaguewide television revenue. Another is forfeiture of a team’s share of leaguewide income from NFL Properties — the league’s merchandising arm.
“Now some owners may assess the costs and benefits and say I’m willing to do that, I can bear the financial burden,” Trask said. “And if I have to have a fight with the league, I’ll have a fight with the league. I’m going to do it anyway.
“But I think an owner will have to think long and hard about so doing.”
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v<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dak wrote:</div>
I don’t see anyone attacking any cities in this thread.This really is all about what Kroenke wants. And, I’m not surprised by the Florio article where SK says he can move if he wants, whether he gets NFL approval or not.
If that’s the case, it’s the worst-case scenario for St. Louis, because the NFL isn’t part of this deal, and the NFL can’t even consider plans for a team in St. Louis as a contingency if the Rams are to move.
I don’t want the Jaguars, btw. I mean, I’d rather wait another decade or so and see what else becomes available than accept another crappy franchise moving here. The Rams were bad enough, but at the time, we fans in STL were just hungry for any type of NFL football. Let’s face it, this franchise was horrible back then, and caught lightning in a bottle with DV and the GSOT. Now that the franchise seems to be heading in the right direction, SK wants to take off for L.A. And, there wasn’t anything that L.A. did or didn’t do to get this team. And, it sure wasn’t anything that St. Louis fans did (other than put up with complete futility since the GSOT). It was a Stan Kroenke strong-arm move that will make it happen. It will move Kroenke up the Fortune 400 list and make him the wealthiest owner in the NFL, and it will leave heartache behind him … both in St. Louis, and maybe the NFL in general. I mean, if Kroenke can move over the NFL’s objections, anyone can move, and what power do the NFL owners really have, then? But, honestly, I think the NFL owners all know this already, and they’re not likely to get into a big spat about this. They’re going to get richer with a team in the L.A. market, aren’t they? And, why not make Stan pay the relocation fee and avoid a court battle? No, there will be no heartache or even heartburn at NFL Inc. There will just be a team in L.A., and none in St. Louis, same as before the Rams moved here in ’95 — but more money in everybody’s pockets outside St. Louis. The best we can hope for in St. Louis is a vague promise from the NFL that St. Louis will get a replacement team if we can put together a stadium deal. I hope that’s not the Jaguars, but probably that’s the best we can hope for. In that case, I might just follow the Rams, and root for SK to contract gout or something.
Well, ok…and not to be an instigator….but…how did you feel
when Georgia and shaw took the team away from the Los Angeles fans?
Know what i mean. We fans love the players and the game, etc — the
owners though….ya know.Corporate-Fandom is easier as a Nomad.
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vI felt bad for the diehards in L.A., I’m sure.
Again, this is nothing against the L.A. fans. They do deserve to have the Rams back, really, if I’m being honest.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dak wrote:</div>
they’re going to get richer with a team in the L.A. market, aren’t they?I hear this, but I don’t see how it’s true. I think the NFL shares a percentage of ticket sales, but there is no guarantee that a team in LA substantially increases that. I mean, once you divide it by 31, what does that percentage represent? And putting a team in LA doesn’t change the tv contracts, which is the NFL’s prime source of revenue.
I read the rest of your post with interest. I am just picking on that one thing cause I have seen it around, but am not sure it’s true.
OK, fair enough, but you’re looking at revenue. I’m thinking “net worth.” What’s SK worth? Where does that put him on the Fortune 500?
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