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October 6, 2014 at 6:21 pm #9231rflParticipant
I really like Austin Davis. A lot. But there are players you really like … who ultimately don’t have what it takes.
AD has already shown that he is an excellent guy to take over after a #1 goes down. Better than Clemens. That’s a given. Yoiu can play effective football with this guy.
But–remembering that he is young and green–can he be more than that? Can he be a mid-table or better starting QB?
I’m not sure about that, but I am optimistic. I think he is already better than perhaps 1/3 of the starting QBs in the league. As a starter! Not just a solid back up. For me, that raises his needle a couple of significant notches.
His strengths are important ones. We all know what they are: he reads defenses well, moves well, extends plays, makes tough throws under pressure from the DL and from the game situation.
I figure he will improve in those areas. Yes, he held onto the ball some yesterday. Well, it was start #3, and he will get better and better reading defenses. He doesn’t generally have trouble deciding to pull the trigger. I figure the capability he has already shown is top half of the league and is likely to get better.
The only real question I have is his arm. Is it strong enough to be consistently accurate. On some of his misses, you see him trying to loop a ball in there and it gets too high. Some of that is throwing to tall guys–Cook, Quick, Britt. But some may be a matter of arm strength. He needs a higher trajectory to get the ball there.
Consider that TD he threw to Quick off the back pedal. That was a looping throw. Good thing Quick was wide open. And consider how often he completes back shoulder balls. That’s a good tactic, sure. But is it partly because of arm strength? If DBs focus on taking the back shoulder away, will this take away a good deal of his effectiveness?
Not sure. And that’s the issue that will play out over time. He is already a decent starting QB who can give you plus performance in a good situation and gritty competitiveness under pressure.
If he can show that his arm can consistently make the throws needed to deal with an array of coverages and situations, he could be a top half starting QB. I see that as a real possibility.
But perhaps the best thing he could do to improve would be …
TO GET HIS DAMN RECEIVERS TO CATCH THE BLEEDING BALL!
Sorry, guys. You’ve come a long way. But the drops really hurt. We might have won BOTH the last 2 games without dropped passes by Cook and Pettis!
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October 6, 2014 at 8:22 pm #9237SunTzu_vs_CamusParticipantJesus! Austin Davis damn near brought the team back from the dead today and we still get crap posts like the one above.
Unbelievable.
Grits
Hey hey…I’m not taking anything away from ADavis…nothing!!! He’s playing superb ball…and well within the gameplan…and then, not freaking out when improvising. He’s throwing some very good balls. BUT…he’s getting help too. He’s throwing those balls up or back shoulder..and those WRs are the ones taking the ball away. And those same WRs may drop a pass here or there..but they ARE playing much better than before. ADavis is throwing balls I wished Bradford would have thrown more…those 50/50 balls. Davis has been a revelation for 3 straight games and has really, really settled down. In fact, if I hadn’t seen 2 years of him in PS..I’d hardly think this is the same kid! He’s completely redone his game. I’m very impressed with him.
ADavis mobility and pocket has made a big difference. Davis is more nimble in the pocket than Bradford, I think. And there’s a bit of the Gambler in ADavis…let’s make that the Ghost of Farve. I think Davis has fine arm strength and is reminding me of Romo a bit.This Pre-Season, I thought Hill and Bradford were all throwing more of these deeper balls & more 50/50 jump balls as ordered from Fisher thru Schotty. We know Fisher wanted more big plays from the passing game last offseason.
I just know that Case Keenum, TJ Yates, Freeman MattMoore, KKolb, etc all had moments but couldn’t be consistent in the end.
I truly want ADavis to be the one who makes it!!I’d sure love to have ADavis and Bradford and even a high drafted rookie QB fight it out for the starting job next year.
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Scuttling across the floors of silent seas."October 6, 2014 at 8:28 pm #9240znModeratorI think Hill and Bradford were all throwing more of these deeper balls and more 50/50 jump balls as ordered from Fisher thru Schotty. We know Fisher wanted more big plays from the passing game last offseason.
Yes. I don;t know how many people see this. But that downfield game was part of their plan going back to the first OTA. And with Britt, Quick emerging, and Cook playing better, they can DO IT now. Just imagine when they get Austin mixed in more and get Bailey going. Kendricks too for that matter. The medium pass has re-appeared too, and I agree, it was the plan from the beginning.
But, since this thread is about Davis…it’s really valuable that he can do this. He may not have the top arm, but he has big hands (like Brees) and a high release point, so, he can take advantage of this stuff.
They had some of this with Bradford last year (games 5-7). Hill showed he could do this. Davis can do this. Clemens couldn’t.
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October 6, 2014 at 8:40 pm #9242InvaderRamModeratorhe really does remind me of brees and wilson. that’s exciting.
sure he’s had the benefit of the rams possibly having finally found a number one receiver. and in his three starts the running game has averaged over 120 yards. but his ypa of 7.9 is impressive. ranks seventh in the nfl.
if they can get the offensive line fixed, he’ll be even more effective.
October 7, 2014 at 6:37 pm #9286wvParticipant=================================================
LaramI know most here are quite impressed with Austin Davis, and I love his moxy and aggressiveness but he’s going to get exposed over the next several games.
His play was a mixed bag in the Philly game. Early on he was late on some throws, high on others and didn’t show good field awareness.
The slide short of the 1st down where he clearly could have gotten the first down easily, showed bad awareness, and I’m going to mention something again that i mentioned in the chat room.
A number of those sacks were on him.
I will try and put some slides together but go back and look at this play.
2nd qtr Eagles up 13-0, Rams have a 2nd and goal at the Eagles 5 yd line.
The Rams motion to an empty set, the Eagles had an automatic check, its a O blitz (Mama that means the defense is sending 6) Austin has got to recognize that and get rid of the ball quickly, because they’re sending more than you have blockers for.
It is not the o-lines fault, when the defense sends more than you have blockers for, that is on the qb.
When the defense has an automatic check, against an empty backfield, they’re coming. That’s qb 101, even I know that.
Austin never sees the free rusher, boom, sack fumble…Eagles ball and a 14 pt turnaround.
All AD has to do is look down the line to his right, and he will see where the free rusher is coming from.
This was an easy one and recognition that an NFL qb should see.
That was another one of his TO’s that was very costly.
Good defenses will definitely see what I do.
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October 7, 2014 at 6:40 pm #9289wvParticipant=================================================
LaramI know most here are quite impressed with Austin Davis, and I love his moxy and aggressiveness but he’s going to get exposed over the next several games.
His play was a mixed bag in the Philly game. Early on he was late on some throws, high on others and didn’t show good field awareness.
The slide short of the 1st down where he clearly could have gotten the first down easily, showed bad awareness, and I’m going to mention something again that i mentioned in the chat room.
A number of those sacks were on him.
I will try and put some slides together but go back and look at this play.
2nd qtr Eagles up 13-0, Rams have a 2nd and goal at the Eagles 5 yd line.
The Rams motion to an empty set, the Eagles had an automatic check, its a O blitz (Mama that means the defense is sending 6) Austin has got to recognize that and get rid of the ball quickly, because they’re sending more than you have blockers for.
It is not the o-lines fault, when the defense sends more than you have blockers for, that is on the qb.
When the defense has an automatic check, against an empty backfield, they’re coming. That’s qb 101, even I know that.
Austin never sees the free rusher, boom, sack fumble…Eagles ball and a 14 pt turnaround.
All AD has to do is look down the line to his right, and he will see where the free rusher is coming from.
This was an easy one and recognition that an NFL qb should see.
That was another one of his TO’s that was very costly.
Good defenses will definitely see what I do.
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I’m already rolling with AD, I roll with ANY Rams qb.What I’m attempting to do is illustrate that the hysteria should be tempered with a bit of reserve.
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I agree with La that AustinD made some critical mistakes.
He’s a work in progress.But its only his third game, right? So even though
other teams will scout him and gameplan him — HE
is also going to get better one would think.Three games. Thats all he’s played.
He’s showed me a LOT so far.w
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October 9, 2014 at 1:19 am #9366znModeratorJlowe22
Location: South MississippiI’ll be pulling for you guys now, as a Southern Miss and Austin Davis fan. I’m glad to see him finally get his shot, he was a beast at USM.
I didn’t watch all of his games, but the ones I did watch I wasn’t impressed with his arm strength on the deep ball. He was a bit of a dual threat, but that doesn’t mean much in C-USA I suppose. He was great in the pocket and knew how to win ball games, which I believe are traits that can transcend conference. He look really accurate on the short-intermediate type throws. As far as if he was better with seam routes, outside routes, etc, I can’t answer that as I didn’t break his play down enough to do so. I do know that Southern Miss ran a CRAP LOAD of plays from shotgun.
I don’t know if “gunslinger” is the right word for him, but against better competition he quite possibly could have been labeled as such.
He certainly put up big numbers, and for those that don’t know, broke or almost broke all of Favre’s passing records at USM.
October 10, 2014 at 1:03 pm #9418znModeratorSam Farmer
Los Angeles Timeshttp://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-surprises-farmer-20141010-column.html
Austin Davis, QB, St. Louis: Although the Rams are 1-3, Davis has the most spectacularly improbable story of the season so far.
He was a walk-on at Southern Mississippi, wound up playing four years and breaking most of Brett Favre’s passing records. He went undrafted in 2012 — at least by the NFL — but was selected in the 32nd round of the baseball draft by the Boston Red Sox.
He was signed, then cut by the Rams, then spent most of the 2012 season on Miami’s practice squad. The Dolphins eventually cut him too, and Davis briefly worked as a volunteer football coach at Westminster Christian Academy in suburban St. Louis. The Rams circled back and re-signed him after starting quarterback Sam Bradford suffered a season-ending knee injury last October.
Two months ago, Davis was the Rams’ fourth-string quarterback, and it looked as if he probably wouldn’t make the final roster. Because of injuries and opportunities, though, he moved up the ranks and recently was named the starter for the rest of the season.
He has been a bright spot for St. Louis, completing 67.8% of his passes for 1,129 yards, with a respectable passer rating of 96.8, 10th among regular starters and better than Matt Ryan, Eli Manning, Jay Cutler, Drew Brees and others.
October 10, 2014 at 1:08 pm #9419znModeratorHe was signed [ie. as a rookie] then cut by the Rams, then spent most of the 2012 season on Miami’s practice squad.
Poor Sam Farmer can’t get his facts right.
Heck all he had to do was read the wikipedia entry:
Davis went undrafted in the 2012 NFL Draft and signed a free agent deal with the St. Louis Rams. On August 30, 2013, Davis was cut by the Rams.
The Miami Dolphins signed Davis to their practice squad on September 10, 2013. Davis spent a very brief tenure in the Miami Dolphins organization, only to be cut and re-signed to the Rams a month or so later.
Davis re-signed with the Rams on October 22, 2013, after an injury to Sam Bradford.
October 10, 2014 at 7:24 pm #9439InvaderRamModeratorthe mistakes that davis made though seem correctable.
but yeah. it’ll be interesting to see what defenses come up with to stop him as they get more game tape and what davis and the rams will do to counteract that.
October 11, 2014 at 8:18 pm #9474znModerator49ers’ Jim Harbaugh a fan of Rams QB Austin Davis
By Paul Gutierrez | ESPN.com
St. Louis Rams quarterback Austin Davis has an unlikely fan — San Francisco 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh.
Especially after Davis’ performance last week — he threw for 375 yards and three TDs on 29-of-49 passing against the Philadelphia Eagles — and despite the fact that Davis will be facing Harbaugh’s Niners on “Monday Night Football.”
“He’d be coming into this game with a lot of confidence I’m sure,” said Harbaugh, himself a 14-year veteran NFL quarterback. “The ball game he played against the Eagles and the fact that he’s gotten better and better every single week, you can see it. It was one of the rare times where I’ve watched coaches’ tape and been excited about the game.”
Davis brought the Rams back from a 34-7 deficit and had St. Louis within 34-28 with more than four minutes to go before eventually falling by that score.
“To watch them come back, sparks were flying,” Harbaugh said. “This was a quarterback that was making throws, an offense that was making plays. And then the last drive, they had a chance to win the game and I’m like, ‘Maybe they got the score wrong. Maybe the Rams really won this game,’ because he made a couple of throws in that drive there that were right on the money and gave his team the chance to win.
“That was a very interesting game to watch on tape … he’s got a knack of throwing the ball in traffic. He can have guys hanging on him, around him, and he’s able to get the ball out at the last second.”
He also did not throw an interception.
“[Davis was] playing with no conscience about throwing the ball down the field and deep, so we’re going to have to do a good job defending the deep ball,” Harbaugh said.
Davis was undrafted coming out of Southern Mississippi in 2012 and had not appeared in an NFL game until this season. Injuries to starter Sam Bradford and backup Shaun Hill opened the door for third-stringer Davis.
And no, Harbaugh was not intrigued by Davis heading into the 2012 draft.
“I wish I would’ve been more aware of him,” Harbaugh said. “He looks like a real nice prospect.”
Then was Harbaugh aware of Davis at all?
“Not that much, no,” Harbaugh said. “I am now, though.”
October 12, 2014 at 11:02 am #9496znModeratorfrom off the net…trying to get all sortsa views
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thehammer
said after last week Davis WAS the reason we lost..brutal 1st/3rd quarter. Phlly went into cruise control with that big lead..
quick look at the hof qb’s who have thrown 400+ yds in the last 10 years…Kelly Holcome 413, Billy Volek 492, Billy Volek 426, Joey Harrington 405, Matt Leinart 423, Cris Weinke 405, Jon Kitna 446, Jay Cutler 447, Matt Cassel 400, Kyle Orton 431, Kyle Orton 476, Matt Cassell 469, Chad Henne 411, Matt Flynn 480, Ryan tannehill 431 and the great Josh Freeman 420..and Davis couldn’t even break 400?
…still just too small a sample size to judge him..next 4 games will say if the rams hit a home run with Davis .,,,especially the next 2
what I want to see from Davis? !st quarter success, especially when blitzed, arm strength and the ability to take a hit. Don’t root for players just not my style but would be great for the starving fans in st Louis if they found another Warner
October 13, 2014 at 7:50 pm #9574znModeratorfrom off the net
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Gruden comparing Austin Davis to Drew Brees
Gruden had an entire segment on it in the ESPN pre game.
Including the fact that they lick their hands a lot. Looks like ESPN is buying into the AD9 hype…
October 13, 2014 at 7:55 pm #9577AgamemnonParticipantOctober 14, 2014 at 10:43 am #9680znModeratorfrom off the net…trying to get all sortsa views
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tbux
Warner made an observation—if anyone knows what a QB is doing and not doing it is him. He didn’t bash Davis, but he said Davis does some things well, but doesn’t handle pressure well. The late pick 6 a perfect example of that. They need to practice more on teams blitzing and reading it and how to beat it. It will continue until we beat it routinely.
October 14, 2014 at 1:09 pm #9693joemadParticipanttbux
Warner made an observation—if anyone knows what a QB is doing and not doing it is him. He didn’t bash Davis, but he said Davis does some things well, but doesn’t handle pressure well. The late pick 6 a perfect example of that. They need to practice more on teams blitzing and reading it and how to beat it. It will continue until we beat it routinely.
Austin Davis need’s Warner’s HS coach with his “Kill Kurt Drill”
“””””””In high school, his coach used to run a drill called “Kill Kurt,” in which he was forced to stay in the pocket, with pass rushers coming at him, until the coach blew the whistle. The idea was to keep him from getting happy feet. Now, says Martz, “He’ll stand in there (and) he’s oblivious to what’s going on around him. That truly makes him unusual. He blocks it all out. And the best illustration is (the winning TD pass in) the Super Bowl. He releases the ball, he knows he’s going to get waylaid on that thing. There’s no question. Does he feel it? Sure, he feels it. Some guys will duck and chuck. But he doesn’t do any of that stuff. He just throws it.” “”””””””
October 14, 2014 at 8:01 pm #9718wvParticipanthttp://www.stlouisrams.com/videos/videos/In-the-Film-Room-with-Jon-Gruden/02ef564c-89d9-46ec-a04a-517afd373fcb
gruden on AustinD
after eagle gameOctober 14, 2014 at 10:12 pm #9725HramParticipanttbux
Warner made an observation—if anyone knows what a QB is doing and not doing it is him. He didn’t bash Davis, but he said Davis does some things well, but doesn’t handle pressure well. The late pick 6 a perfect example of that. They need to practice more on teams blitzing and reading it and how to beat it. It will continue until we beat it routinely.
I noticed that in the Niners game that I attended. Davis simply doesn’t look comfortable in the pocket. He’s excited. If the play is on time and the receiver comes open, he can make the throw. But otherwise he just gets a little excited resulting in a pass thrown too soon or errant. He does look good on rollouts and when he is able to evade the initial rush, start rolling then make an attempt.
Too early to tell on the deeper throws, but I didn’t have any wow moments.
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October 19, 2014 at 7:58 pm #9967znModeratorOle Davis came through today, with a couple of improvisations that helped them win.
I don’t know if they can put the game on him and ask him to pass them to a win.
But, he can qb a team that plays some defense.
Now all they need is a team that plays some defense.
October 21, 2014 at 11:47 pm #10155October 22, 2014 at 5:17 pm #10184RamBillParticipantOn today’s Breakfast With Bernie, the Post-Dispatch’s Bernie Miklasz talks about the improvement he saw from Austin Davis in the upset of the Seahawks and what it means for his future. (3:13)
http://www.rams-news.com/bernie-austin-davis-might-be-a-keeper-video/
October 22, 2014 at 6:59 pm #10196znModeratorfrom off the net
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as qb of record, davis currently ranks a follows for 3rd down passing, among the top 35 qbs:
qb rating – 2nd
morst tds per pass attempt – 1st
fewest interceptions per pass attempt – 1st (tied)
completed passes that resulted in a first down – 5th
pass attempts that resulted in a first down – 5th
completion % – 7th
yards per attempt – 10ththe huge 4th quarter pass to givens was just the latest big-time 3rd down conversion davis has notched, that was a 3rd & 6 play that was good for 30 yards. others include:
3rd & 13, deep td pas to quick (51 yards)
3rd & 12, deep td pass to britt (30 yards)
3rd & 1, deep td pass to kendricks (22 yards)
3rd & 9, deep pass to pettis (27 yards)
3rd & 10, deep pass to britt (17 yards)the odds aren’t in his favor in terms of an undrafted guy getting a chance and becoming a star, let alone a longtime dependable qb. hopefully what we’ve seen is sustainable, hopefully he not only keeps it going but gets better with each outing, fingers crossed.
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