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    Cast members had some interesting reactions:

    #101537
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    ‘bridge4’ has some interesting vids on GOT, if yer a GOT-fanatic. Or so I’m told.

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    “it was rushed”

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    Yeah, “rushed” covers it. Though again there were good scenes and set pieces. To me the most heartening image was Jon riding past the wall with the wildlings. He simply walks away from his sentence to remain with the Night Watch, which was of course just a form of imprisonment. He just turns his back on that. He has lived beyond the wall before so it is a return to something of value for him. He can never go south of the wall again because now he is the Queen Slayer. As several reviews point out, Brienne writing Jamie’s entry in the white book was good. Other scenes were good.

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    Yeah, “rushed” covers it. Though again there were good scenes and set pieces. To me the most heartening image was Jon riding past the wall with the wildlings. He simply walks away from his sentence to remain with the Night Watch, which was of course just a form of imprisonment. He just turns his back on that. He has lived beyond the wall before so it is a return to something of value for him. He can never go south of the wall again because now he is the Queen Slayer. As several reviews point out, Brienne writing Jamie’s entry in the white book was good. Other scenes were good.


    Yes. I dont think i quite realized Jon was not abiding by the decree that he be with the Night Watch.

    Yeah, i guess he just said F that.

    There was a time he would not have flouted his ‘duty’.

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    Yes. I dont think i quite realized Jon was not abiding by the decree that he be with the Night Watch.

    Yeah, i guess he just said F that.

    There was a time he would not have flouted his ‘duty’.

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    I think the moment is well done. In the vid below it starts at 4:30, when the gate in the wall is shut, and we see a stoic Jon but the music swells.

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    Apparently, in the books, Daenerys had a shitload of visions:

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    The dwarves “delved too deep”. So did the Valaryians:

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    Valarians equal “Nazis with dragons” – good line from that last vid.

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    #101584
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    Conscientious Objector:

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    Why did GOT rush the last two seasons:

    #101669
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    One thing that didn’t come up in discussion…the dragon not torching Jon Snow for killing Daenerys. Well maybe part of it is that Jon’s a Targaryen, and the dragon can sense that. He won’t torch family. Another thing is, it’s a very unexpected and interesting move that it torched the throne. Now one part of me said, that’s a little schlockey, and are we to believe dragons can reason like that? But most of me went, interesting. The dragon in its grief and rage destroys the thing it believes really killed Dany. Throughout the series dragon fire was used to destroy Dany’s enemies, and the dragon basically went, well here’s your real enemy right here (desire for power). I found I was actually touched and moved by that and saw it as a very appropriate, resonant, and effective twist. I liked that moment.

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    One thing that didn’t come up in discussion…the dragon not torching Jon Snow for killing Daenerys. Well maybe part of it is that Jon’s a Targaryen, and the dragon can sense that. He won’t torch family. Another thing is, it’s a very unexpected and interesting move that it torched the throne. Now one part of me said, that’s a little schlockey, and are we to believe dragons can reason like that? But most of me went, interesting. The dragon in its grief and rage destroys the thing it believes really killed Dany. Throughout the series dragon fire was used to destroy Dany’s enemies, and the dragon basically went, well here’s your real enemy right here (desire for power). I found I was actually touched and moved by that and saw it as a very appropriate, resonant, and effective twist. I liked that moment.

    I really liked that entire scene. It was visually very beautiful, and moving. I knew either Jon or Dani was going to kill the other during their embrace. Jon went there with the purpose to kill her, but I thought Dani might kill the rightful heir to the throne first.

    Since Jon was a Targaryen, could dragon fire even kill him? Can he withstand fire like Dani? Even so, the dragon still could have rendered him limb from limb, so I agree that Drogon spared Jon because of who he is. I don’t know if Drogo’s destroying of the throne was intentional or if it was simply directing its grief and anger away from Jon and the throne happened to be in the way. Although intelligent, the dragon is still essentially an animal. I’m not sure that it would understand what the throne represented. But obviously the melting of the throne was symbolic.

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    Although intelligent, the dragon is still essentially an animal. I’m not sure that it would understand what the throne represented. But obviously the melting of the throne was symbolic.

    The question though is whether the show itself stuck to the “animal” thing or violated it and suddenly had the dragon acting on the basis of some kind of reasoning. After all it’s magic…maybe it’s capable of resenting the thing that in the end destroyed Dany. It’s even there in the room or what’s left of the room in the first place because it sensed something was wrong.

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    The question though is whether the show itself stuck to the “animal” thing or violated it and suddenly had the dragon acting on the basis of some kind of reasoning. After all it’s magic…maybe it’s capable of resenting the thing that in the end destroyed Dany. It’s even there in the room or what’s left of the room in the first place because it sensed something was wrong.

    Oh sure, if you want to create some sort of fantasy world where dragons are capable of high order reasoning…

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    The question though is whether the show itself stuck to the “animal” thing or violated it and suddenly had the dragon acting on the basis of some kind of reasoning. After all it’s magic…maybe it’s capable of resenting the thing that in the end destroyed Dany. It’s even there in the room or what’s left of the room in the first place because it sensed something was wrong.

    Oh sure, if you want to create some sort of fantasy world where dragons are capable of high order reasoning…

    So now you’re saying dragons aren’t real?

    That’s funny!

    Good one.

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    So now you’re saying dragons aren’t real?

    That’s funny!

    Good one.

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    I think you two totally missed the point. Drogon was not making a fiery comment on Hierarchy or the Iron Throne or anything like that. He was totally melting down the fourth wall.

    He clearly, was saying “Season 8 Sucks, Fuck this I’m leaving.”

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    Time again for an oldie but goodie.

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    Some folks think this is one of the best critiques. (I love the idea of having an extra kill the night king, btw)

    #101895
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    As I said there were many great moments in the final season, but they were moments. The connective threads were way too thin.

    Having said that, I think the show thinks that having lords, the oligarchy, elect monarchs is breaking the wheels.

    Naw it’s just swapping them for snow tires. It’s still the same axle.

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    #101995
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    Alt Shift X, sums it all up well, in a balanced way, I’d say. Here’s the last few mins of his vid:

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