Another reason Trump may win again

waterfield wrote:

In a verbal war Trump has called Biden “a loser”. In response guess what Biden calls Trump? ” An existential threat”. This likely will raise the hair on James Carville’s head. . Do you really honestly believe that those who voted for Trump actually know what “an existential” threat is ? Worse: do they have any idea what “existential” means? There is a way to beat this guy but its not to speak over the heads of his voters.

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True.

Jon Kerry, Dukakis, Al Gore, and on and on. Democrats.

They are the “Ed Sullivans” of politics.

If the dems had any balls, they’d all call Trump a Sleaze-bag, Lying, traitorous, aldultering, Billionaire, Buffoon.

I’m serious.

Just keep pounding away at the ‘sleaze’ factor.

“Existential” ? Are you kidding me?

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waterfield wrote:

Our brains have been taught to look for simplicity -not complexity. Look at successful movies and the most popular tv shows. Quick segments where there are more breaks between scenes than ever before. We want stuff given to us quickly and where we don’t have to-or need to-think about it. Steve Bannon recognized this in the American people and got the perfect candidate in Trump. When Michele Obama said “when they go low we go high” I cringed. As much as I love her that is the absolute wrong tactic. The message should be “we go lower”. This is no longer any JFK’s America where you can tell Americans to “ask not what your country and do for you but what you can do for your country”. We are no longer-if we ever were-a society that gives -we take ! It’s all about “me, me, me”. Trump is no dummy. He understands that very well.

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We’ve been talking about this, at least since Dukakis. So, yeah the Reps are WAAAY better at plugging in to emotion than the Dems. In General, anyway. Obama was a special case, blah blah blah.

But the question always remains — WHY are the Dem candidates (in general) so boring ?

Why?

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I would characterize Trump as a buffoonish Reality TV star. Again and again and again. That’s easy because that is what he actually is. It trivializes him, and emphasizes his incapacity for the job.

I don’t think any leading Democrat will do that, though.

Why AREN’T there any Democrat strategists that have balls? Carville was the only one. The Reps have had a continuous stream of them.

Zooey wrote:

I would characterize Trump as a buffoonish Reality TV star. Again and again and again. That’s easy because that is what he actually is. It trivializes him, and emphasizes his incapacity for the job.

I don’t think any leading Democrat will do that, though.

Why AREN’T there any Democrat strategists that have balls? Carville was the only one. The Reps have had a continuous stream of them.

Trump and most other GOPers are polished salesmen… dems don’t know how to sell.

Trump can sell you a shitty cheap cut of meat… a flat iron cut or chuck eye steak, because he sells the “sizzle” of a grilled steak, not the raw piece of cheap bloody meat in the butcher shop.

Dems will try to sell you a high end of Kobe steak that is uncooked hanging from the butcher’s market that is unappealing that’s not ready to eat…. they need to learn how to “sell”.

in addition, it’s more than just than just diction like “existential” it’s words like “misogamist” and “narcissism”… people don’t know what those words even mean ….

as mentioned in this thread, Dems need to simplify the message and do a better job of selling while shitting on Trump… “he’s a sleaze ball cheater who sucks at running any complex business.. give examples of losing money in the casino business, in the airline business, in the USFL…

Casino’s don’t lose money.

People wanted spring time football, and this asshole tried to compete with the NFL in the fall and blew up the USFL

Trump airlines crashed and burned . etc….

Trump is putting people in position that is fucking up your life!

When the GOP had their primary debates, Trump kicked ass on all his opponents… he not only knocked Carly Fiorna’s looks, but he made simple examples of how she tanked HP into the ground with stupid business decisions.

He too sucks at leading businesses.

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Ahhh, but he is going to point to the economy and say, “It’s never been better; it’s all because of me.” and that goes a long, long way with his base.
I think he is going to win again, gods help us all…

he’s the Barry Switzer of presidents…. Switzer inherited and reaped a sustainable team that Jimmy Johnson built.

Trump inherited an upward economy…. in Switzer’s 4th season in Dallas, the Cowboys and Switzer became nobodies…. same is gonna happen to our Bozo president and us…….

waterfield wrote:

Switzer couldn’t beat the scoreboard. Trump’s base does not even look at the scoreboard and will be convinced that the economy dump is either their own fault or (more likely) they are doing just fine. Bottom line is it’s the people -not Trump-who have no ability for any type of critical analysis. No one wants to take the time. And in that light I’m speaking of just enough of them in the right states to repeat 2016.

Well, as always, it will come down to a few crucial states.

I agree that Biden looks a lot like Hillary. The difference is that the right wing has not created a Pavlovian kneejerk response to him over 20 years like they did to Hillary. Nobody hates Biden.