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September 9, 2017 at 2:28 pm #73949nittany ramModerator
The #Rams just got a nice surprise. DT Aaron Donald showed up and passed his physical, per source (as @ProFootballTalk reported).
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) September 9, 2017
Some Aaron Donald notes: Donald won’t play tomorrow, but has been working and could be up to speed soon. No deal, at this time. Yet.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) September 9, 2017
September 9, 2017 at 2:35 pm #73950HerzogParticipantGood boy
September 9, 2017 at 2:52 pm #73951InvaderRamModeratorawesome. welcome back, aaron!
September 9, 2017 at 2:57 pm #73952Eternal RamnationParticipantWoohoo!
September 9, 2017 at 3:18 pm #73953nittany ramModeratorAaron Donald out at least this week, won’t play until he’s ready
Posted by Michael David Smith on September 9, 2017, 2:40 PM EDTGetty Images
Although Rams defensive tackle Aaron Donald has ended his holdout and reported to the team, he’s not ready to take the field just yet.Donald has already been ruled out for Sunday’s opener against the Colts, and a league source tells PFT that the Rams don’t plan to play him until he’s ready.
If that means Donald needs a couple weeks of practice before he’s prepared after spending the entire offseason away from the team, the Rams are ready to have him sit out Weeks 2-3 as well. The Rams are planning to pay him his weekly game checks even if he doesn’t play, as part of the agreement that got him back in the fold.
After opening the season tomorrow against the Colts, the Rams host Washington next Sunday and then play at San Francisco on Thursday, September 21. It’s possible that Donald’s season won’t begin until the Rams travel to Dallas on Sunday, October 1.
September 9, 2017 at 3:25 pm #73954AgamemnonParticipantUpdate: Rams will seek a roster exemption and will pay Aaron Donald this week. He's back on the active roster as a 54th player.
— Rich Hammond (@Rich_Hammond) September 9, 2017
September 9, 2017 at 3:27 pm #73955znModeratorRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Rams now have option, to include Donald on 53-man roster immediately or request an exemption. Either way, looks like he’s back.
Vincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
More on Aaron Donald: #Rams will seek roster exemption – standard procedure in these situations. He’s on the active roster and will be paidSeptember 9, 2017 at 3:29 pm #73956AgamemnonParticipantRams star Aaron Donald ends holdout, returns to team without new contract
By Rich Hammond | rhammond@scng.com | Orange County Register
PUBLISHED: September 9, 2017 at 11:57 am | UPDATED: September 9, 2017 at 12:03 pmThe Rams’ nightmare scenario ended Saturday morning when star defensive lineman Aaron Donald ended his contract holdout and reported to the team, albeit without a new contract.
Donald remains under contract through the 2018 season, but is seeking a new deal. That led Donald to stay home when his teammates reported to training camp in late July, and Donald held out for six weeks.
Donald will not play in Sunday’s season opener against Indianapolis at the Coliseum, but he did pass his physical Saturday, so presumably Donald will be on the field when the Rams resume practice next week.
Rams coach Sean McVay addressed the Donald situation after the team’s practice Friday at Cal Lutheran.
“We’re still trying to come to find a way to come to a solution,” he said, “but it’s safe to say that he won’t be a part of this game.”
Why end the holdout now, without a new contract? If Donald didn’t report this weekend, he would not have been paid his first-week salary of more than $100,000, plus an unspecified amount of bonus money.
The Rams added Donald to their active roster Saturday and will pay him in full this week. The Rams also received a short-term exemption from the NFL that allowed them to add Donald as a 54th player, and prevented them from having to cut a player in order to get to the NFL active-roster maximum of 53.
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September 9, 2017 at 3:32 pm #73958AgamemnonParticipantAaron Donald avoids financial loss, minimizes injury risk
Aaron Donald avoids financial loss, minimizes injury risk
Posted by Mike Florio on September 9, 2017, 2:34 PM EDT
Getty ImagesRams defensive tackle Aaron Donald wanted to turn the current rookie wage structure upside down. While he didn’t quite do so (yet), Donald has created a new precedent for players caught between picks No. 11 and 32 in the draft.
Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Rams agreed to waive $1.48 million in fines in return for Donald reporting to the team today. By reporting today, Donald also avoided signing bonus forfeiture of $711,500 and the loss of a $106.014 game check. Also, the Rams have agreed that none of Donald’s remaining guarantees ($8.694 million) have been waived by the contract breach arising from the holdout.
So he’s exactly where he would have been financially, if he’d shown up for training camp (minus the per diem and piddly game checks for the preseason). Equally as important, Donald also avoided all injury risk arising from training camp and the preseason.
Conversely, Giants receiver Odell Beckham Jr. showed up for training camp — and nearly suffered a season-ending injury during a preseason game. Ditto for Raiders pass rusher Khalil Mack, who emerged from August with a knee injury that caused him to miss a practice in the week preceding the season-opening game.
Talks will continue on a long-term deal for Donald. If one happens this year, great. If not, look for Donald to consider the same approach in 2018.
Either way, look for other plays who are subject to a fifth-year rookie option and who aren’t in the top-10 transition tag range to consider following Donald’s lead if they don’t get a new contract after their first three NFL seasons.
September 9, 2017 at 3:32 pm #73959znModeratorVincent Bonsignore @DailyNewsVinny
1. Re: Donald In talking to #NFL people over last few weeks, teams rarely if ever cave when player has time left on his contract2. #Rams position has been consistent: Willing to pay AD reflective of his stature. But there was a limit how far they’d go to meet demands
3. Question now is, what’s AD’s mood right now relative to contract status? Is this a prelude to #Rams resolving situation long range?
September 9, 2017 at 3:52 pm #73961AgamemnonParticipantSeptember 9, 2017 at 4:23 pm #73963InvaderRamModeratorWell, good. I am not upset with Donald or the Rams. I am glad the drama is over. Hopefully they can reach an agreement, sooner better than later.
yeah i don’t see much reason to get upset about this.
shoot in a way it could be a good thing and donald doesn’t suffer through the abuse of a 16 game schedule. i think playoffs were a long shot anyway.
September 9, 2017 at 4:43 pm #73964znModeratorAaron Donald Reports to Rams
Myles Simmons
Defensive tackle Aaron Donald has reported to the Rams facility as of Saturday morning and passed his physical during the team’s walk-thru.
While he has reported, Donald will not play against the Colts on Sunday.
Donald will be added to the active roster with Los Angeles seeking a roster exemption, which is standard in these situations.
Though the team and Donald’s representation have not yet come to terms on a contract extension, both sides will continue to work to reach a solution. The defensive tackle was absent for much of the Rams’ offseason program, and then did not report to training camp as negotiations were ongoing.
Donald has recorded 28.0 sacks in his first three seasons. He was named 2014 AP Defensive Rookie of the year, and has been a Pro Bowl selection in each of his first three years.
September 9, 2017 at 6:13 pm #73971AgamemnonParticipantRams have received a roster exemption for Aaron Donald, which means they didn't have to make a roster move when he reported.
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) September 9, 2017
September 9, 2017 at 7:09 pm #73976znModeratorJust to cement this…here’s a good concise description of how WP will use Donald in his system. We know how they will use Donald because they asked Smart to do all the same things.
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Blue and Gold wrote:
Granted we have not seen him play in it, but when Smart was in he played 3-tech, lining up on the outside shoulder of the guard (though Smart did play some on the nose when someone else was at 3-tech). The Rams 3/4 DL is not DE NT DE, it’s DT NT DE.
Donalds’s going to be a penetrating player, not a 3-4 DE where you are outside of the tackle, or even head up.
His role does not change from what it was in Williams’ 4/3. What changes is that in this scheme on any given play one of the two OLBers is a DE. But which one? That’s for the defense to know and the offense to find out–which one is in coverage and which one attacks a gap? This allows the defense to disguise if they are shifted to or away from the tight end. That adds some confusion to the offense.
Then on 3rd down it will be a 4-man line with AD one of the rushers.
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September 9, 2017 at 10:32 pm #73980znModeratorAaron Donald is back with the Rams, but what does it all mean?
Alden Gonzalez
LOS ANGELES — At last, Aaron Donald is back. The Los Angeles Rams’ star defensive tackle ended his holdout Saturday and passed his physical. He will not play in Sunday’s regular-season opener, and he still doesn’t have the contract extension he seeks. But he’s here, and that is a very important first step. I’ll try to answer some of the key questions regarding his situation.
What is his roster situation?
The Rams sought a roster exemption for Donald, which is typical under these circumstances. It allows them to place Donald on the active roster — and thus ensure he gets paid for that game — without having to cut another player to get back down to 53. They’ll make that decision after Sunday’s game, and my guess is that it will be a center who gets cut. The Rams have four right now. Donald was previously on the reserve/did not report list.
What about his fines and compensation?
Donald was fined $40,000 for each day he did not report during training camp and the preseason, adding up to somewhere in the neighborhood of $1.4 million. But as ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported, the Rams waived those fines. Pro Football Talk also reported that Donald will not lose any of his signing-bonus money. If his holdout would’ve lingered beyond Sunday’s 4:05 p.m. ET kickoff, Donald would not have been paid one of his 17 game checks (players are paid during their bye weeks). Donald’s base salary this year is $1,802,250, so he would have lost out on a little more than $106,000.
So what was the point of all this?
It’s easy to say there was no point, because Donald showed up without a new deal and now he will not play in all 16 regular-season games. But look at it this way: Donald put pressure on the Rams to give him a lucrative contract extension, did not end up losing any money doing so and — this is the big one — avoided any injury risk leading up to the season. Fellow Rams defensive lineman Dominique Easley tore his ACL on a non-contact drill during training camp. Giants receiver Odell Beckham Jr., taken one spot ahead of Donald in 2014, narrowly escaped a serious injury during a preseason game, and he, too, seeks a bigger contract.
When will he play?
Tough to say right now. There’s little doubt on the Rams’ side that Donald stayed in shape while working out in Pittsburgh, but strapping on the pads and repeatedly taking hits along the interior is completely different. They’ll know more during practice this coming week, and they won’t rush him. If they’re confident he’s ready to play Week 2 against Washington, great. If they have to wait until Week 3 (the following Thursday in San Francisco) or Week 4 (Oct. 1 in Dallas), they’ll be fine with that, too. The Rams — and, clearly, Donald — are looking long-term here.
Does this mean they’re close to a deal?
Not necessarily. Donald showing up doesn’t mean there has been a major breakthrough in negotiations. There really hasn’t been. The 26-year-old wanted to be back around his teammates, and of course, he didn’t want to miss a paycheck. The Rams’ front office traveled to Atlanta the day before the final preseason game to meet with Donald’s representatives at CAA, but they didn’t really make much progress. They just want to keep the conversations going. I presume they will continue.
What’s the holdup?
It has been pretty clear to me that the Rams understand if you’re going to give Donald an extension, you basically need to make him the game’s highest-paid defensive player. J.J. Watt is the best comparison in this situation, because he was considered the game’s best defensive player when he signed his extension (with the Texans in 2014) and because he had completed only three NFL seasons by then. Watt’s deal ultimately made him the game’s highest-paid defensive player. There’s no reason Donald wouldn’t believe he’s worthy of that, too, particularly when you consider that the top earner at his position, Dolphins defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, is very nearly the game’s highest-paid defensive player.
With that being the case, I would have to think it comes down to either ensuring that Donald is the highest-paid defensive player for a while — which might mean blowing past the Von Miller deal, which includes $70 million guaranteed — or giving him as much of his guaranteed money as possible up front. That could be a little tough. The Rams have only about $4.5 million in salary-cap space, according to ESPN’s Roster Management System. They can restructure player contracts to open up more room, usually by turning base salaries into signing bonuses that are prorated over the length of a contract. But the Rams don’t like doing that. They like minimizing what they prorate in order to maximize their salary-cap flexibility.
The best bet would probably be to give Donald a big chunk of his guaranteed money as a roster bonus that would be paid next spring. But what if Donald suffers a devastating injury before then? Maybe that’s a concern on his side. Keep in mind: These are assumptions; I am not privy to what has been offered and what has been asked.
How does the defense look with and without him?
With Donald out, the Rams will start rookie Tanzel Smart at the 3-technique spot, alongside nose tackle Michael Brockers and defensive end Ethan Westbrooks. Smart is a sixth-round pick out of Tulane. Veteran offensive lineman Rodger Saffold, who blocks Smart every day in practice, said he has “outrageous potential.” But he is also raw and a bit undersized. The Rams are fully healthy now. And when Donald returns, they should look very good on defense, especially in their front seven, with Robert Quinn, Alec Ogletree, Mark Barron and Connor Barwin making up a strong linebacking corps. ESPN’s Football Power Index ranks the Rams defense 14th heading into the year, but Wade Phillips can do better than that.
September 10, 2017 at 2:02 am #73990znModeratorBonsignore: Aaron Donald had no choice but to return to Rams
From the outset, the Aaron Donald contract holdout seemed a bit dubious. The longer it dragged on through OTAs, training camp and preseason games, the more equivocal it became.
That he finally returned early Saturday morning, just ahead of the Rams season opener Sunday against the Colts — with no new deal in hand — only adds to the puzzlement.
As in, what was all that for?
We know why he’s back, of course. Had he not reported in time for the season opener he stood to lose the $100,000 in salary his weekly game check represented. Donald won’t play Sunday, but he’ll collect his money. It would have been ludicrous for him to play it any other way. A hundred grand is a hundred grand, no matter how entrenched Donald is in his negotiating position or how hurt his pride might be by the Rams not checking off all his contract demand boxes.
The bigger question is, what, exactly is his optimum end game and did he really think holding out all this time was going to deliver his ideal outcome?
Because, I have to tell you, no one in the NFL believed for one second a guy with two years left on his original contract and who’s under team control the next four years was going to get all his wishes granted.
That kind of leverage is reserved for players who play out their contracts, earn free agency and peddle their talent across the entire 32-team league.
And let’s be frank here. By wishes we mean whatever overall salary number he believes he’s worth over the current highest-paid defensive player, what percentage of that number is guaranteed up front and what percentage of that overall number is guaranteed within the first three years or so of the deal.
Donald has his number.
The Rams have their number. And by all indications, it’s a number big enough to insure Donald is the highest-paid defensive player in the NFL
Those numbers, obviously, don’t jive. Obviously, right. That was the reason for the long holdout.
Thing is, you wonder why it took so long for Donald and his agent to figure out the Rams weren’t about to budge from that number when everyone understood they had all the leverage.
The Rams were always open and willing to re-do his rookie contract to reflect his status as one of the best defensive players in the NFL, if not the best. When other teams would have hung up when his agent called expressing a desire to renegotiate the original five-year rookie deal Donald is playing under — the one that still has two years remaining on it — the Rams embraced the idea.
They covet Donald for everything he’s done over his first three seasons, outplaying his first-round draft position to become the NFL’s best interior defensive lineman and, in the process, setting a towering professional and personal standard that a young team desperately in need of leadership could emulate.
For all of those reasons, the Rams were willing to pay top dollar — likely the most ever for a defensive player — to make sure Donald remained in the fold for a very long time.
That was made clear to Donald and his people very early on in the process.
Naturally, they wanted more.
Understandable. That’s what agents do. Of course they were going to swing for the fences, given the immense talent of their client and the fact that NFL players usually get one big bite of the contract apple during their careers.
This isn’t baseball or basketball, where longevity and rules give star players multiple chances to secure huge paydays.
It makes perfect sense they’d assert every ounce of pressure to get the Rams to go higher and higher and higher.
The reality is, there was no way the Rams were going to go as high as Donald wanted them to. And still won’t. Not with them holding all the cards, this year, next year, the year after that and the year after that.
You wonder if Donald gets that now, and that him ending this confusing holdout is the catalyst for a deal to come together quickly.
What are his other options? Play the next two years for the guaranteed $8.9 million he’s got coming to him? Or say yes to somewhere in the neighborhood of $60 million-$75 million on the table?
Seems pretty obvious what the answer should be.
But then, we’ve all been saying that for more than a month now.
September 10, 2017 at 2:20 am #73991InvaderRamModeratorConversely, Giants receiver Odell Beckham Jr. showed up for training camp — and nearly suffered a season-ending injury during a preseason game. Ditto for Raiders pass rusher Khalil Mack, who emerged from August with a knee injury that caused him to miss a practice in the week preceding the season-opening game.
yup. and why i would never begrudge donald for not showing up to camp. i don’t understand all the animosity being directed towards him.
hopefully the rams and donald can come up with an agreement and he can be a ram for a long time. but donald doesn’t owe anybody anything.
September 10, 2017 at 8:26 am #73996PA RamParticipantI hope that Donald is really pissed and takes it out on opposing quarterbacks all season long.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
September 10, 2017 at 9:05 am #73999nittany ramModeratorI hope that Donald is really pissed and takes it out on opposing quarterbacks all season long.
Aaron Donald playing with a chip on his shoulder?
“Woe to you of earth and sea, for the Devil sends his beast with wrath…”
September 10, 2017 at 9:49 am #74005JackPMillerParticipantI wonder who they will release though in two weeks to make room for Donald?
September 10, 2017 at 10:06 am #74006AgamemnonParticipantI wonder who they will release though in two weeks to make room for Donald?
I will guess Fox, cause they might be able to get him on the Practice Squad.
September 10, 2017 at 10:30 am #74009wvParticipantWell, its a step in the right direction. I wont smile until he actually signs.
Quinn hasnt played a down. AD wont be playing for a while and he wont be in game-shape for a month. Can this Defense put pressure on the QB ?
We’ll see.
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vSeptember 10, 2017 at 10:36 am #74010znModeratorWell, its a step in the right direction. I wont smile until he actually signs.
Quinn hasnt played a down. AD wont be playing for a while and he wont be in game-shape for a month. Can this Defense put pressure on the QB ?
We’ll see.
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vAll that’s valid. I kind of fantasize the opposite direction though. I assume Donald comes back eventually and contributes full strength. If Quinn comes through, there;s that. Barwin was good all summer so that;’s 3. Now what if Smart comes through too? He could sub for AD in the meanwhile, and then rotate with AD when AD is ready to start, plus play in passing down packages where they use a 4-man line along with a nickel back (that would mean a 2 DT set with Donald and Smart flanked by Quinn). That would add up to a pretty relentless front 7.
All that combined could take the Rams record for offsides and roughing penalties TO A WHOLE NEW LEVEL! (!!!)
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September 10, 2017 at 11:17 am #74015nittany ramModeratorWas it McVay that convinced Donald to return to the team?
September 10, 2017 at 11:49 am #74018znModeratorRookie coach Sean McVay helped end Aaron Donald’s holdout
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20657283/rams-coach-sean-mcvay-helped-end-aaron-donald-holdout
One of the men who had a role in ending the stalemate between the Los Angeles Rams and Aaron Donald was rookie head coach Sean McVay, sources tell ESPN’s Adam Schefter.
Rather than traveling with the team to Green Bay for the Rams’ final preseason game, McVay went to Atlanta with Rams executives to meet with Donald’s representatives to see if they could find a compromise, sources tell Schefter.
McVay later flew from Atlanta to Green Bay to rejoin his team in time for that night’s preseason game, but he missed the team activities earlier that day.
McVay’s presence in Atlanta rather than being in Green Bay with his team was a sign of how important it was to him to have Donald back on the roster.
The Atlanta meeting helped increase dialogue between the two sides, and it helped result in Donald reporting to work Saturday, though he will not play Sunday against the Indianapolis Colts.
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