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September 7, 2014 at 10:21 pm #6573znModerator
GORDON: The game unraveled in the last two minutes of the first half. First Shaun Hill had to fall on the football after getting stripped of it in the pocket. Then he scrambled to his right and threw a devastating interception, allowing the Vikings to turn a 6-0 advantage into a 13-0 lead. Oh, and Hill aggravated his quadriceps muscle injury on that play.
You know, until that series, Hill had not been sacked, and he was 8 of 12. Up to then, the real issues were around him, he wasn’t the issue.
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1st quarter:
(9:33) S.Hill pass deep left to B.Quick to SL 40 for 23 yards (X.Rhodes). Good pass.
(3:34) S.Hill pass deep right to B.Quick to MIN 41 for 19 yards(R.Blanton). Good pass.
(2:04) S.Hill pass incomplete short left to Z.Stacy. That was a drop, all on Stacy.
2nd quarter
(12:39) (Shotgun) PENALTY on SL-R.Saffold, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at SL 39 – No Play. False start on 3rd and 10
(7:04) S.Hill pass short right to B.Quick pushed ob at MIN 31 for 21 yards (C.Munnerlyn). PENALTY on SL-B.Quick, Face Mask (15 Yards), 15 yards, enforced at MIN 31. Good pass, and bad penalty–when was the last time you saw a receiver called for face masking.
5:51) S.Hill pass short right to C.Givens to MIN 41 for no gain (C.Munnerlyn). PENALTY on SL-C.Givens, Offensive Pass Interference, 10 yards, enforced at MIN 41 – No Play Penalty turns 2nd and 10 into 2nd and 20.
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Starting with the Stacy drop, that’s the group of plays right there where the game started to unravel.
In the 2nd half, you’re starting your inexperienced #3 qb in GAME ONE (!) and what happens at that point is inevitable.
It was going to be a close game, at least until Davis played…and they can hang in a close game if they make the throws and catches on plays like those. That way maybe you aren’t gaining yards on the ground the way you want, but the D is thinking run so the pass is there.
- This topic was modified 10 years, 3 months ago by zn.
September 8, 2014 at 12:01 am #6590GreatRamNTheSkyParticipantIndeed the penalties were horrible but, nobody and I mean nobody believes that Hill was pulled for a quad injury.
Like I stated before, you could see it in the expression on Hill’s face. He was pulled over performance issues. Fisher was not happy with what Hill did in the 1st half. Anyone who believes Hill was pulled over a mysterious quad injury that had to be announced in a team statement is drinking a great deal of Kool aid.Grits
September 8, 2014 at 12:06 am #6593znModeratorIndeed the penalties were horrible but, nobody and I mean nobody believes that Hill was pulled for a quad injury. Like I stated before, you could see it in the expression on Hill’s face. He was pulled over performance issues.
GritsYeah Grits a lot of people think that was the reason (the quad). I know you dissent, and so do some others. And others have remarked on what you read into his expressions. You see it one way, others don’t. I personally think he was upset at making a mistake like the INT. That’s just how I saw it.
If Fisher actually pulled Hill just for performance, it would be a really wretched mistake. First, you don’t do that. Not for one INT. 2nd, his replacement had never played a down in a real NFL game, and it showed. He took sacks, for example, that Hill would never have taken.
As a rule, with disagreements like this, don’t jump to conclusions about other people’s motives–someone disagreeing is just disagreeing, they’re not doing some kind of “thing” to call out. Just expect some there will be disagreement sometimes and post on.
September 8, 2014 at 12:58 am #6599c1ramParticipantIf Fisher pulled Hill because of anything else then I’m stumped. Hill was fine, I thought. I mean he made a terrible mistake at the end of the half but that would have been just all out panic by a veteran coach to do that otherwise.
September 8, 2014 at 1:48 am #6602MackeyserModeratorI thought I posted this, but someone from ROD posted that they were at the game and saw Shaun Hill leaving the game heading to his car and he was limping quite badly.
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September 8, 2014 at 1:55 am #6603znModeratorI thought I posted this, but someone from ROD posted that they were at the game and saw Shaun Hill leaving the game heading to his car and he was limping quite badly.
Why was the guy from ROD limping so badly?
Oh nevermind, I know…longterm Rams fan…
(Yes, kidding, I know Mack meant Hill was limping.)
September 8, 2014 at 7:34 am #6607GreatRamNTheSkyParticipantBelieve what you want. I’ve seen this before and I know when a QB has been pulled for non-injury issues. Fisher wanted to shake things up. Hill for whatever reason was not getting it done. Believe what you want ZN but Hill is not the answer at QB. He never was and I think Fisher finally realized that yesterday. Give Austin Davis the reps this week with the ones and start him. There is no logical reason for starting Hill.
Grits
September 8, 2014 at 7:44 am #6611PA RamParticipantThe question is what happens this week?
If Hill can’t go and Keenum isn’t ready that leaves…well…that basically leaves little hope in Tampa.
Why does it feel like Rams players are made of glass?
In any case, I don’t know what really happened–although if Fisher pulled him for an interception than Fisher is in meltdown mode.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
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