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  • August 26, 2016 at 5:59 am #51621
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    Elvis

    Last day of camp for the public 2016: Nice cool breezy day, big crowd. Had a great time.

    It was pretty clear from practice that Keenum is the starter (unless they’re pulling a giant head fake and nobody thinks that). Mike Thomas had a good day. Goff had a really nice throw to him down the sidelines that went like 35 yards on a rope between two defenders catching him in stride. Made me think of Jim Everett. Higbee runs with the ones and twos, he’s on the field a lot. To no one’s surprise, he’s almost certainly going to figure big and early for the Rams.

    It was a pretty relaxed day, lots of goofing around and laughing. Also the way they practiced was different, the order of drills and kinds of drills was different. I guess this is natural as we leave training camp and start preparing for the season.

    August 27, 2016 at 7:06 am #51682
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    Keenum is currently the best QB. Goff is NOT ready to start. While its obvious he’s going to be a good starting QB, he’s not there yet.
    My 2 cents: If they start Goff at this point, he would be a turnover machine. He’s not reading the defense as good as Keenum, and he’s throwing picks. Every TC practice he’s thrown at least one pick. Yesterday, Joyner stepped in front of a short sideline pass for a pick six. He’s also mishandled snaps and fumbled. I know a lot of fans want Goff to start now , but IMHO and after watching him up close in practice he’s just not ready. Its a big jump from college spread to NFL. Kinda like going from a piper cub to a 747. You have the basic idea on how to fly an airplane, but a 747 is a lot more complicated with more systems to understand. Not a great analogy, but you get my drift. NFL playbook is 10 times fatter than college. NFL defenses throw more blitzes and they are disguised better and Goff has never seen 90% of what getting thrown at him by GW. have to be patient with Goff, he’s making progress but he doesn’t have it all yet.

    Most of Goff snaps are form shotgun. If G’off lines up under center, he’s handing it off. Goff has yet to throw a pass if he lines up under center. I saw where he lined up under c, took the snap, handed it off, and then continued back and play faked like he still had the ball. No one on D was buying it. the little girl in the third row eating ice cream wasn’t buying it. Attention Rams opponents! If Goff lines up under center, its a running play!

    Highlight of the day was a 35 yd rope hitting Thomas in stride down the sideline.

    Thomas had a good day. Quinn got a few snaps. Spruce knee in a sleeve. Gurley and RB’s getting targeted with short passes coming out of the backfield. Cooper and McRoberts got several targets. Cooper fielding punts. Quick going into his 5th year and still being treated like a rookie, taking time away from coaches who should be coaching up REAL rookies. Its past time to move on from Q.

    Looked like they practiced hard. Fisher very involved, really drilled them in 2 min drill.

    OL looking good. Rams won’t keep 11 OL. 10 or maybe even 9. And some of those will be picked up by other teams and possibly start. OL is a problem for a lot of teams. The practices I’ve been to, the OL was one of the groups I paid a lot of attention to. Andy Donnal looks 20 lbs heavier and its looks to be all muscle and stronger.. Donnal is technically sound and probably the best pass protector after Saffold. Donnal getting reps @ LG. Donnal also gets a lot of reps @ RT and does a good job there. Bigger, stronger, strength and conditioning program in off season really helped . Donnal should make the 53.

    Havenstien hasn’t even been on the field yet, and may not til after the season starts. They activated him so he doesn’t miss the 1st six games. He probably won’t play until the 2nd or 3rd. He’s only going to play RT. He was doing a lot of drill work on the sidelines yesterday. Busy with trainers on sidelines doing different drills. Close to participating?

    Battle was on the field and took snaps at RT with the 2’s yesterday. they’re bringing him along slowly. 1 play then he came out. Next series, one play and then out. He’s wearing a knee brace. Battle is a big guy and doesn’t have the typical OL build. Very athletic and trim, no gut or big azz. guy is strong. He’s got a future with the Rams, but I don’t believe its anytime soon. Backup this year at best.

    I know folks don’t want to hear it, but the injury bug WILL hit. A starter is going to miss games, and that’s where Saffold coms in. For a change the Rams don’t have to tear the OL apart to replace someone.

    Barnes is a lock and a pleasant surprise at C. He’s definatly used the off season to get stronger.. Rhaney still has trouble off the snap, get pushed back into the pocket. Folkerts is just slow, Kush has problems with the exchange, low snaps. Wichmann got some snaps @ C yesterday. Fisher and Boo not happy with backup C? I have no confidence in Rhaney @ C.

    Nice problem to have for the Rams a pretty deep stable of capable O-linemen and you can’t keep em all. These next two pre-season games will clarify things. Don’t be surprised to see Wichmann in there at C late in the game

    I have not been this excited about the Rams OL since the days of the “Dough-nut Bros.”. Nothing but a revolving door of has been FA’s, failed draft picks and hearbreaking injuries. Barring injury, the OL is going to be a strength of the Rams. Keenum is going to have more time and Gurley is going to run amok.

    Now they go to Cal Lutheran up north.

    August 27, 2016 at 7:37 am #51687
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    I always liked Donnal. I think of him as the upgraded version of Reynolds. He might be better than that.

    Agamemnon

    August 27, 2016 at 2:24 pm #51717
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    On the 8/22 practice Goff took nearly every snap from under center as they really worked on PA passing.
    Goff looked flawless in his movement. imo
    That’s not to say that he won’t butt-fumble and make mistakes in real games…but he looked very smooth running PA passing game. And as I said, when any of the QBs stick that back foot and the ball comes out – after a step up – it’s generally a completion – meaning the PA worked!! It’s this way with every QB actually…just watch and test my observation. 😉

    It’s when that doesn’t work and they have to improvise…..then the game goes to the best of those types of QBs that make something happen when the play is covered or their protection fails and they are forced to leave the pocket. Goff can do both. imo
    And Goff will be murder in a year – but functional in time THIS year by game 3-6. imo
    Anyway, you can just see it in him. Goff is a competitive guy and rarely displays it but if you look close to his demeanor/body language after the play…it’s easy to see he is grinding inside…in a good way! 😉
    His feet maybe the best I’ve ever seen in the pocket…that’s hard for me to say….but I can’t think of any guys that resets his feet to correct passing position faster – yes, I have a bad memory…but still!! 😉

    Goff is also very very resilient to bad things or even pressure from fans coaches, etc. Goff is absolutely fearless…I mean, easily like KurtWarner type fearless in the pocket. Mannion got so much bett at that too from last year. Mannion really stands in there and delivers. I was wrong about him…but he’s not my fav styl/type of QB…I like the BigGuns and see them much clearer. Still, Mannion has forced me to have some more crow at snack-time!! 😉
    He’s “appears” to have the attitude of a surfer in that he’s laid back and looks like he doesn’t care…till the huge swells come and the big Waves appear from ElNino….(CA surf conditions that dictate who goes to play in the water!).
    Then, he’s ice and goes out to the Big Ones when all other folks are coming in.
    THAT’S Goff.

    Goff is Fearless!

    "I should have been a pair of ragged claws...
    Scuttling across the floors of silent seas."
    August 27, 2016 at 2:43 pm #51721
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    Jeff Bridges in Fearless.

    SunTzu_vs_Camus wrote:

    On the 8/22 practice Goff took nearly every snap from under center as they really worked on PA passing.
    Goff looked flawless in his movement. imo

    Thanks, apparently someone generalized from the wrong practice or 2. Good correction.

    I believe everything you say about Goff btw. Not only cause you were there and saw it, but also because I have echoes of it in my own head from watching vids. As in, less sharply or clearly, but yes I saw those things too so when you say it, it rings a bell.

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