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  • #53394
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    Isn’t it true, that for four years, we have watched Fisher teams lose
    this kind of game? Yes? No?

    The Tampa Bucs seem to be a .500 level team. Not awful, but not great. A beatable team. A non-division beatable team.

    Aint this the kind of team a playoff team is supposed to beat?

    Are the fisher-rams ready to win a game like this and then consistently
    keep winning games like this ? I have no idea. More 7-9 bullshit coming up? Or can they turn the corner and give us some 9-7 bullshit.

    And if you are Fisher do you Say anything about the 7-9 bullshit of the past? Do you do anything different? Do you try something different to motivate this team?

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    #53396
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    Isn’t it true, that for four years, we have watched Fisher teams lose
    this kind of game? Yes? No?

    The Tampa Bucs seem to be a .500 level team. Not awful, but not great. A beatable team. A non-division beatable team.

    Aint this the kind of team a playoff team is supposed to beat?

    Are the fisher-rams ready to win a game like this and then consistently
    keep winning games like this ? I have no idea. More 7-9 bullshit coming up? Or can they turn the corner and give us some 9-7 bullshit.

    And if you are Fisher do you Say anything about the 7-9 bullshit of the past? Do you do anything different? Do you try something different to motivate this team?

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    I think there’s one reason and one reason alone the Rams went 7-9 and 6-10 the last 2 years and it has nothing to do with Fisher trends or any of that.

    The reason is a double reason. First they had issues on the OL in 2014 and then an inexperienced OL in 2015 that got injured on top of it. Then they also lost Bradford and started successively Hill, Davis, Foles (who was okay until he collapsed), and then Keenum…the best of the lot being Keenum but not because he’s starting-caliber dynamo. Having issues both at qb and on the OL is a lot to overcome. So I call that the QB/OL syndrome, in honor of The China Syndrome, and see that as the primary cause. I routinely ask if anyone can think of teams that played well under that combined set of conditions and I have never gotten an answer, in any of the 24 corners of rams-online-nation.

    If they just had a qb and decent ordinary OL stability they would not be 13-19 in the last 2 years and would have already been winning.

    Therefore to me, searching for negative trends and so on is largely beside the point. I stress, to me…I get that I am just howling in the wilderness here.

    As for what kind of game this is—I dont’ assume that Tampa is an easy win and that this is the kind of game a good team just wins. I don’t think anyone really knows where Tampa stands, and it’s possible that one bad game does not define them. The Rams bounced back after SF and beat a team with a very good defense. Maybe Tampa has its own little resurrection. For me, it’s too soon to say.

    #53397
    Avatar photonittany ram
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    There’s no way to know the answers to those questions until they play the game.

    The season started with the Rams losing to a team they theoretically should beat followed by a victory over a team they theoretically should lose to.

    So thus far they’ve been the SOFAR (Same old Fisher Ass Rams).

    I think if they lose to Tampa that’s a pretty good indication that another 7-9 BS season is afoot. If they win, well they could still end up 7-9 but it could be the start of something better.

    This is a week to week proposition. I’ll begin to believe if they can win 3 in a row.

    #53398
    PA Ram
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    Isn’t it true, that for four years, we have watched Fisher teams lose
    this kind of game? Yes? No?

    The Tampa Bucs seem to be a .500 level team. Not awful, but not great. A beatable team. A non-division beatable team.

    Aint this the kind of team a playoff team is supposed to beat?

    Are the fisher-rams ready to win a game like this and then consistently
    keep winning games like this ? I have no idea. More 7-9 bullshit coming up? Or can they turn the corner and give us some 9-7 bullshit.

    And if you are Fisher do you Say anything about the 7-9 bullshit of the past? Do you do anything different? Do you try something different to motivate this team?

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    This is EXACTLY the kind of game that Fisher lays an egg.

    Until he proves otherwise–I gotta be concerned.

    I give you 2015:

    Sept 13th: Rams beat the Seahawks 34-31

    Next week at Washington: Rams lose to Redskins 24-10

    Dec. 16th: Rams beat Seahawks 23-17

    Next week at San Francisco: Rams lose to the 49ers 19-16

    2014:

    Oct. 19th: Rams beat Seahawks 28-26

    Next week at Kansas City: Rams lose to the Chiefs 34-7

    Okay–that year they lost to Seahawks in final game so let’s take another great team they beat:

    Nov. 16th: Beat the Denver Broncos 22-7

    Next week at San Diego: Rams lose 27-24

    2013 was a year they did not beat a lot of great teams with a following road game. But let’s look at the Cards who were 10-6.

    Sept. 8: Rams beat the Cards 27-24

    Next game at Falcons: Rams lose 31-24(Falcons were 4-12 that year)

    Nov. 24th: Rams smash Bears 42-21

    Next week at 49ers: Rams lose 23-13 ( To be fair–9ers were 12-4 this year)

    To me–this reads as a pattern: Good game–even a win, against a good opponent followed by road loss next week.

    And THAT is how you get some 7-9 bullshit.

    To turn that around this team needs to beat a team like Tampa Bay this week. If they can’t, I’m not so sure they will turn things around this year. I’ll be getting a deja vu vibe. And I’d like to change that.

    I don’t want to feel like Bill Murray:

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #53399
    Avatar photowv
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    I’ll begin to believe if they can win 3 in a row.

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    Man, three in a row would be a spectacle wouldn’t it.

    Remember when three in a row would be a Yawn, around here?

    Remember when they could actually convert a third and five ?

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    #53400
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    So I call that the QB/OL syndrome, in honor of The China Syndrome, and see that as the primary cause. I routinely ask if anyone can think of teams that played well under that combined set of conditions and I have never gotten an answer, in any of the 24 corners of rams-online-nation.

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    Well, I’d say 90 percent of average football fans dont follow other teams enough to know anything about their OLines. So, it has never meant much to me that no answers are forthcoming to that question.

    Having said that, i dont disagree with the thrust of your post.

    Still, I’m open the notion there may be more to it, than the injuries. I dunno. I’m just wondering if Fisher will do anything different to motivate them this week.

    #53401
    Avatar photozn
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    So I call that the QB/OL syndrome, in honor of The China Syndrome, and see that as the primary cause. I routinely ask if anyone can think of teams that played well under that combined set of conditions and I have never gotten an answer, in any of the 24 corners of rams-online-nation.

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    Well, I’d say 90 percent of average football fans dont follow other teams enough to know anything about their OLines. So, it has never meant much to me that no answers are forthcoming to that question.

    Having said that, i dont disagree with the thrust of your post.

    Still, I’m open the notion there may be more to it, than the injuries. I dunno. I’m just wondering if Fisher will do anything different to motivate them this week.

    Naw yer talking across the last couple of years about a few hundred guys when you add up all the boards and the times this has come up.

    Everyone has a nearby 2nd team they can know about and comment on. Like Zooey being near the Bay area and able to chime in about the 9ers.

    Then there are the superguru fantasy football types who really do know the league as a whole.

    No one ever came up with anything and that is most likely because there are no examples. And that’s with me often putting the challenge in such a provoking way that someone out there would chime in if they knew anything just to put me in my place.

    Which just stands to reason. There’s very good football logic reasons why that syndrome would hamper a team.

    So for example would you bet a 1000 dollars on Seattle if their subpar OL suffered a couple of more injuries plus Wilson went out.

    Well why wouldn;t you bet on that.

    For the obvious reason. You mess a line up to that extent and put in a #2 caliber qb on top of it and the offense struggles.

    There may be Fisher reasons why they would not take the division and the conference IF they had a qb and a relatively healthy OL. But once you have the qb/OL syndrome, then, that’s an unaskable question because it is simply not going to reach the point where that’s even realistically askable.

    It would be like asking if a car could win a race when the wheels are off and the engine damaged.

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    #53402
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    To turn that around this team needs to beat a team like Tampa Bay this week. If they can’t, I’m not so sure they will turn things around this year. I’ll be getting a deja vu vibe. And I’d like to change that.

    I don’t want to feel like Bill Murray:

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    Well, so far the Tampa Defense has allowed this:

    “…Keenum should have a chance to thrive this week against Tampa Bay’s defense. In the first week, Atlanta’s Matt Ryan passed for 334 yards and two touchdowns. On Sunday, Arizona’s Carson Palmer passed for 308 yards and three touchdowns. Neither quarterback threw an interception.”

    Seems like even Bill Murray could pass on this defense.

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    #53412
    NERam
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    I’ll begin to believe if they can win 3 in a row.

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    Man, three in a row would be a spectacle wouldn’t it.

    Remember when three in a row would be a Yawn, around here?

    Remember when they could actually convert a third and five ?

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    I am actually amazed, and excited, when they complete a freakin pass. Multiple examples of overthrows and drops has had that effect on me.

    Not one of those little sideways passes that they like to throw to Tavon before he is hammered into the turf by 3 defenders. Im talking about a real, honest-to-goodness downfield pass.

    I now get very excited when that happens.

    Three in a row, you say? Man…

    #53415
    JackPMiller
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    Problem is, Jeff Fisher is an overrated Head Coach. You have an owner who cares more about his building of the stadium, then the team itself. In other words, Kronke does not care about winning.

    #53416
    Avatar photojoemad
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    Rams still haven’t shed the 7-9 perception in Vegas….

    Today, Tampa Bay is favored by 5 over the RAMS.

    The player’s body clock (LA PDT time) will be 10 AM in Tampa Bay at kick off….they better not give up some early scores, I’m not sure they have a come-from-behind offense just yet…..

    #53421
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    The player’s body clock (LA PDT time) will be 10 AM in Tampa Bay at kick off….they better not give up some early scores,

    My bad……4PM EDT kick off, thus 1PM PDT body clock, 91 degrees with 80% humidity

    #53424
    NERam
    Participant

    The player’s body clock (LA PDT time) will be 10 AM in Tampa Bay at kick off….they better not give up some early scores,

    My bad……4PM EDT kick off, thus 1PM PDT body clock, 91 degrees with 80% humidity

    They played Tampa a couple of years back, same September weather scenario. Hot and humid. I think they actually had the lead late in the game, and the Bucs came back to win it. Rams D was on the field, visibly sucking wind.

    Not saying the heat is why they lost, but it certainly contributed.

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    #53428
    Avatar photoAgamemnon
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    Agamemnon

    #53442
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
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    To turn that around this team needs to beat a team like Tampa Bay this week. If they can’t, I’m not so sure they will turn things around this year. I’ll be getting a deja vu vibe. And I’d like to change that.

    I don’t want to feel like Bill Murray:

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    Well, so far the Tampa Defense has allowed this:

    “…Keenum should have a chance to thrive this week against Tampa Bay’s defense. In the first week, Atlanta’s Matt Ryan passed for 334 yards and two touchdowns. On Sunday, Arizona’s Carson Palmer passed for 308 yards and three touchdowns. Neither quarterback threw an interception.”

    Seems like even Bill Murray could pass on this defense.

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    you’d think keenum would have a good game after an efficient performance against that seattle d.

    i think he will. just don’t know how the secondary copes with those 2 humongous receivers.

    rams d had jj and mcleod last time they faced this team.

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