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September 14, 2016 at 11:25 am #52860
znModeratorOne 49ers player told Wyche that San Francisco’s defense could tell by alignment and backfield motion after the snap exactly what the , Wyche relayed on Tuesday’s edition of NFL Network’s Up to the Minute with Andrew Siciliano.
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Fisher: Jared Goff could be Rams’ backup QB Week 2
By Chris Wesseling
After watching Case Keenum author one of the least effective season openers of the 21st century, Los Angeles Rams coach Jeff Fisher said Tuesday that he had no plans to change his starting quarterback for Sunday’s home opener versus the Seattle Seahawks.
The obvious followup question is when will No. 1 overall draft pick Jared Goff be ready to move up from third on the depth chart?
Fisher told NFL Network’s Steve Wyche last week that the plan was for Goff to ascend to the backup role in Week 2, flipping with Sean Mannion.
That plan is not set in stone, however.
During Monday’s press conference, Fisher said only that there is a chance Goff will advance enough to handle backup duties this week.
Until he surpasses Mannion, Goff won’t be a candidate to see game action.
The conundrum for Fisher and his offensive coaches is that Keenum has thoroughly outplayed Goff, who struggled with pre-snap reads, post-snap reads and the overall speed of the NFL game during August.
“Goff will one day be the starter but not until he is ready,” Fisher emphasized to Wyche last week.
Will the rookie’s timetable be accelerated after Keenum’s Monday night faceplant?
The problems go beyond the quarterback in Los Angeles’ offense.
One 49ers player told Wyche that San Francisco’s defense could tell by alignment and backfield motion after the snap exactly what the Rams route tree was, Wyche relayed on Tuesday’s edition of NFL Network’s Up to the Minute with Andrew Siciliano.
If that predictably was a scheming issue, offensive coordinator Rob Boras will have to go back to the drawing board. If it was partially the result of Keenum’s obvious physical limitations, there’s a danger of rushing Goff into the starting lineup.
The Rams firmly believe their top draft pick will be a “great player” some day. It has been clear for five months, though, that he’s going to need time to master his craft with more practice reps before he’s ready to orchestrate an NFL offense.
September 14, 2016 at 12:05 pm #52861
bnwBlockedWell that makes more sense explaining the crapfest but telegraphing plays is pathetic for a pro team.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
September 14, 2016 at 1:00 pm #52864
wvParticipant“…One 49ers player told Wyche that San Francisco’s defense could tell by alignment and backfield motion after the snap exactly what the Rams route tree was..”
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“We came out expecting the Rams to play better than they did,”
49ers’ NaVorro Bowman.————–
It just gets funnier and funnier, don’t it.
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vSeptember 14, 2016 at 1:04 pm #52865znModeratorWell that makes more sense explaining the crapfest but telegraphing plays is pathetic for a pro team.
Is that “telegraphing”?
Or the 9ers doing a great job of studying the Rams offensive tendencies?
The Rams defense has dismantled some top offenses in the past, and part of it is using film to read tendencies.
September 14, 2016 at 1:10 pm #52867
OzonerangerParticipantGoff ain’t ready.
Keenum doesn’t have it and obviously Boras doesn’t trust him throwing vertically. Or, more likely, Keenum doesn’t trust himself.
Fuck me…start Mannion this week.
September 14, 2016 at 1:22 pm #52869
nittany ramModeratorWell that makes more sense explaining the crapfest but telegraphing plays is pathetic for a pro team.
Is that “telegraphing”?
Or the 9ers doing a great job of studying the Rams offensive tendencies?
The Rams defense has dismantled some top offenses in the past, and part of it is using film to read tendencies.
Well, the 9’ers player said they could tell the route tree by the Rams’ ‘alignment’. It does seem problematic if the defense can tell what route you’re gonna run just by where you line up.
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September 14, 2016 at 1:45 pm #52872
PA RamParticipantSo…..the 9ers defense figured out the Rams offense before Jared Goff?
Is it complicated, is it simple, is Goff just not too bright? Will he even line up in the right huddle when he gets out there? Very disturbing.
I don’t know if this is true or not but if it is, that’s a problem. This was the first game of the year. There should have been surprises–something. Was it so simple that there were only a few different formations and routes? It sort of looked that way, to be honest.
I don’t really get it. I don’t pretend I do. But it is a problem, I would think–if true. I’m not sure what it means in the grand scheme of things. But I don’t like it.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
September 14, 2016 at 2:07 pm #52873nittany ramModeratorSo…..the 9ers defense figured out the Rams offense before Jared Goff?
Line of the year. You win the Internet.
September 14, 2016 at 2:14 pm #52874znModeratorGoff ain’t ready.
Keenum doesn’t have it and obviously Boras doesn’t trust him throwing vertically. Or, more likely, Keenum doesn’t trust himself.
Fuck me…start Mannion this week.
I want to dispel this myth once and for all.
Rams threw deep with Keenum every game he was in last year. He has done it and therefore he can do it. The numbers back this and the game vids back this.
If you don’t believe me just give this vid one quick look.
September 14, 2016 at 2:27 pm #52875OzonerangerParticipantI want to dispel this myth once and for all.
Rams threw deep with Keenum every game he was in last year. He has done it and therefore he can do it. The numbers back this and the game vids back this.
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Where was it Monday night?
September 14, 2016 at 2:44 pm #52876znModeratorI want to dispel this myth once and for all.
Rams threw deep with Keenum every game he was in last year. He has done it and therefore he can do it. The numbers back this and the game vids back this.
OZ.R: Where was it Monday night?
In one of six games?
I don’t know. Either the 9ers saw it or anticipated it and took it away, or the Rams never called it.
It’s not a matter of Keenum being unable to do it. He did it every game last year.
September 14, 2016 at 3:44 pm #52877wvParticipantSo…..the 9ers defense figured out the Rams offense before Jared Goff?
Line of the year. You win the Internet.
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Yes, great line. Indeed.
But I also liked:
“Fuck me…start Mannion this week.”
Ozonerangerbtw, what the heck is an ‘ozoneranger‘ ?
I don’t understand that name. I mean, you have
‘Ozoner’ and ‘anger’ — what does it mean??w
vSeptember 14, 2016 at 3:56 pm #52880
ZooeyModeratorI have difficulty believing that that claim is true (i.e. they knew the route trees). I have a hard time believing that the Rams don’t have multiple routes they run from any given formation. There are only so many formations to begin with, but a lot of different routes.
Though I do wonder if the WRs have a limited number of routes they run, so that if Britt lines up here, he tends to run one of these three routes. When he’s there, he runs these other routes. So if they were playing man-to-man, they might have a better idea of the options.
September 14, 2016 at 4:15 pm #52882bnwBlockedWell that makes more sense explaining the crapfest but telegraphing plays is pathetic for a pro team.
Is that “telegraphing”?
Or the 9ers doing a great job of studying the Rams offensive tendencies?
The Rams defense has dismantled some top offenses in the past, and part of it is using film to read tendencies.
It is definitely telegraphing. One or more Rams players on offense was doing something that the entire 49ers D could see and be assured it would happen. Don’t get to 28-0 by tendencies you get there by the other team telegraphing the play. Good teams don’t let this happen.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
September 14, 2016 at 4:51 pm #52888
HerzogParticipantI feel like it’s a wide reciever problem. Don’t worry guys, we can just use our #1 pick next year to fill that need…..OH WAIT………..
September 14, 2016 at 5:23 pm #52889znModeratorWell that makes more sense explaining the crapfest but telegraphing plays is pathetic for a pro team.
Is that “telegraphing”?
Or the 9ers doing a great job of studying the Rams offensive tendencies?
The Rams defense has dismantled some top offenses in the past, and part of it is using film to read tendencies.
It is definitely telegraphing. One or more Rams players on offense was doing something that the entire 49ers D could see and be assured it would happen. Don’t get to 28-0 by tendencies you get there by the other team telegraphing the play. Good teams don’t let this happen.
They did not say what you said. It wasn’t one or 2 players tipping off. It was the entire offensive alignment and motion before the snap—and that is play design. That is what was said. If the D was reading the Rams plays that closely, that means they saw tendencies in the film from the last 4 games last year where Boras was the coach.
If the player in question meant individual players were telegraphing he would have said that. He said it was the pre-snap alignment and motion, which is an entirely different thing.
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September 14, 2016 at 6:03 pm #52894bnwBlockedWell that makes more sense explaining the crapfest but telegraphing plays is pathetic for a pro team.
Is that “telegraphing”?
Or the 9ers doing a great job of studying the Rams offensive tendencies?
The Rams defense has dismantled some top offenses in the past, and part of it is using film to read tendencies.
It is definitely telegraphing. One or more Rams players on offense was doing something that the entire 49ers D could see and be assured it would happen. Don’t get to 28-0 by tendencies you get there by the other team telegraphing the play. Good teams don’t let this happen.
They did not say what you said. It wasn’t one or 2 players tipping off. It was the entire offensive alignment and motion before the snap—and that is play design. That is what was said. If the D was reading the Rams plays that closely, that means they saw tendencies in the film from the last 4 games last year where Boras was the coach.
If the player in question meant individual players were telegraphing he would have said that. He said it was the pre-snap alignment and motion, which is an entirely different thing.
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28-0 is TELEGRAPHING.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
September 14, 2016 at 6:09 pm #52898znModerator28-0 is TELEGRAPHING.
28-0 is a score.
No one who was interviewed about this said “telegraphing” and they are smart enough to say if that’s what they meant.
If you need to keep arguing, fine. I’m done.
September 14, 2016 at 6:20 pm #52903bnwBlocked28-0 is TELEGRAPHING.
28-0 is a score.
No one who was interviewed about this said “telegraphing” and they are smart enough to say if that’s what they meant.
If you need to keep arguing, fine. I’m done.
Your post made it personal. That is against the rules.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
September 14, 2016 at 7:18 pm #52916
InvaderRamModeratorWell that makes more sense explaining the crapfest but telegraphing plays is pathetic for a pro team.
Is that “telegraphing”?
Or the 9ers doing a great job of studying the Rams offensive tendencies?
The Rams defense has dismantled some top offenses in the past, and part of it is using film to read tendencies.
It is definitely telegraphing. One or more Rams players on offense was doing something that the entire 49ers D could see and be assured it would happen. Don’t get to 28-0 by tendencies you get there by the other team telegraphing the play. Good teams don’t let this happen.
They did not say what you said. It wasn’t one or 2 players tipping off. It was the entire offensive alignment and motion before the snap—and that is play design. That is what was said. If the D was reading the Rams plays that closely, that means they saw tendencies in the film from the last 4 games last year where Boras was the coach.
If the player in question meant individual players were telegraphing he would have said that. He said it was the pre-snap alignment and motion, which is an entirely different thing.
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wow. that would seem to be worse than telegraphing.
got to square that away.
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