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  • #34097
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    http://draftbreakdown.com/mockdrafts/luke-easterlings-way-too-early-2016-nfl-mock-draft/
    This hypes the WRs. I don’t see Amari Cooper or Watkins out there, but there are a lot of red chip receivers. imo

    Agamemnon

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    LMU93 — if season ended today

    Rams would have the 14th, 43rd and 44th overall picks in the top two rounds.
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    #34286
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    LMU93 — if season ended today

    Rams would have the 14th, 43rd and 44th overall picks in the top two rounds.
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    If we don’t win a couple a games, we will probably be picking ~10.

    Agamemnon

    #34480
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    A DE draft, just for zn. 😉

    Buckner and Oakman are big enough to play tackle. Nassib is like a strong Chris Long.

    Agamemnon

    #34481
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    lol

    Believe it or not they would win a lot of games that way.

    Is the value in this draft in the 2nd round? Or to put that another way, is there a lot of value in the 2nd round?

    Cause if so, if it were me, I would trade down.

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    #34484
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    lol

    Believe it or not they would win a lot of games that way.

    Is the value in this draft in the 2nd round? Or to put that another way, is there a lot of value in the 2nd round?

    Cause if so, if it were me, I would trade down.

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    I think that you might have about 50 really good players, red chip or close to red chip. Which means you can get good players at a lot of different positions or high second round draft choices this year can be more valuable than most other years.

    As far as trading down, that depends on how the draft unfolds more than its landscape. imo
    Cause, somebody has to be willing to trade up.

    Agamemnon

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    Early Draft Landscape

    No matter what the Rams do, they should end up with 3 really good players with their first 3 picks. It is likely that they get another good player in the 3rd and a decent WR in the 4th. If you want a possible #1 WR, you need to take him in the first, but there isn’t a Cooper or Watkins in this draft. imo

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    Agamemnon

    #34511
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    A draft for offense.

    Agamemnon

    #34991
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    New draft. Is everybody happy? 😉

    How about this one?

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    Agamemnon

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    2016 NFL Mock Draft: 1st-Round Predictions for Top Prospects After Week 15

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2601041-2016-nfl-mock-draft-1st-round-predictions-for-top-prospects-after-week-15

    With no clear-cut No. 1 pick, the 2016 NFL draft could be an interesting one. There’s no can’t-miss quarterback, but there are plenty of talented players on both sides of the ball.

    Traditional powers will be represented well in the first round, but a few players from non-Power Five conferences could squeeze their way into the top round.

    The order is going to change after the outcome of Week 15’s Monday Night Football game between the Detroit Lions and New Orleans Saints, but let’s take a look at the projected first-round picks as well as some analysis of a few top prospects.

    Agamemnon

    #35896
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    Agamemnon

    #35924
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    Bump. Placeholder. It’s technical.

    #35962
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    Agamemnon

    #35999
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    Russ Lande said Jared Goff, would be a perfect
    fit for the Rams. The Cal QB. Said, he
    would probly go in the teens of the first round.

    Anybody got any thots on Goff ?

    Did he play in a pro system? I dont
    want no more spread qbs.

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    #37042
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    from off the net

    alyoshamucci

    what position will provide BPA for the Rams at #15?

    The best player available at 15 will be a CB. I have a really high top end this draft. And a very good second tier.

    Second best is QB. There are five talented physical passers. They just don’t come around every year.

    Second round … WR and DE will be bpa because that second tier is HIGH QUALITY AND DEEP.

    #37086
    Herzog
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    🙁

    #37110
    JackPMiller
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    No way the Browns pass up on a QB. Not happening.

    #37426
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    Mock Draft 2.0: Cowboys, 49ers each draft elite wide receivers

    Steve Palazzolo uses both college and NFL data to bring you PFF’s second mock for 2016 NFL draft.

    We’re back for our second mock draft of the season, this time with a revised draft order that is still in the process of changing. While our initial film study is done and the grades are in, the PFF team is constantly re-evaluating prospects with an eye toward NFL projection.

    It’s important to keep in mind that what separates our mock draft from others is that our main focus is on what we would do at each pick, rather than what the teams project to do. The other dynamic at play for this mock draft is the uncertainty among many coaching staffs across the league, so as head coaching jobs get finalized and we have a better idea which schemes they will run, the landscape of the draft is sure to change.

    Tennessee Titans: Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State

    No change at the top as the best player on the board is still the top option for the Titans, even with question marks about coaching staff and scheme. Bosa posted the top pass rushing grade among edge defenders last season (+56.6) and ranked second this season at +43.5. He also had the top grade against the run this year at +28.5, and with his ability to win up and down the line, Bosa is a scheme-versatile playmaker.

    Cleveland Browns: Jared Goff, QB, Cal

    The draft is not deep in surefire first-round quarterbacks, but Goff is the best of the bunch. He topped all QBs with a +53.8 overall grade, a year removed from ranking eighth at +27.7. He elevated an overmatched Cal team to a difficult weekly matchup in a deep Pac-12, and he handles pressure and the blitz well while throwing with accuracy to the deep and intermediate levels.

    San Diego Chargers: DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon

    The first three picks all stay intact from last month’s mock draft as Buckner and the Chargers make one of the draft’s best matches. San Diego is extremely weak on the defensive interior and Buckner provides the best combination of pass rushing and run-stopping ability. At six-foot-seven, he’ll likely garner some Calais Campbell comparisons along the way and projecting similar production is not out of the question.

    Dallas Cowboys: Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss

    Dallas could have their eye on Jalen Ramsey here, but they go with Treadwell to pair with Dez Bryant, a player Treadwell has gotten compared to in the past. Treadwell can make plays down the field or after the catch (forced 17 missed tackles), and stocking up on playmakers is one way to get the Cowboys back to the top of the NFC East.

    Jacksonville Jaguars: Jalen Ramsey, CB, Florida State

    Help is needed in the Jacksonville secondary and Ramsey is well-equipped to upgrade a number of areas, it’s just a matter of how they want to use him. He’s played free safety and cornerback at Florida State, with plenty of experience in the slot. From a production standpoint, he can provide a Tyrann Mathieu-like presence to a secondary, and he’ll maximize his potential if that versatility is featured in the defensive scheme. Over the last two years, Ramsey has graded at +21.0 in coverage, +13.4 against the run, and +10.1 as a pass rusher.

    Baltimore Ravens: Emmanuel Ogbah, DE/OLB, Oklahoma State

    The Ravens’ defense was a different unit with departed free agent Pernell McPhee off to Chicago and an early-season injury to Terrell Suggs. A limited pass rush put even more pressure on a hurting secondary, and while the Ravens would love to get a cornerback (perhaps a move up to get Ramsey is in the cards?), they upgrade the pass rush instead with no strong cornerback option on the board. Ogbah’s +40.9 grade ranked third in the nation among edge defenders.

    San Francisco 49ers: Josh Doctson, WR, TCU
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    The quarterback class is filled with question marks beyond Goff, so it doesn’t make sense for the 49ers to reach at this point. Instead, the future franchise QB gets one of the draft’s top playmakers in Doctson who has the body control to make spectacular catches and route running to create separation. He was the nation’s top-graded WR at +26.9 before going down to injury in Week 11.

    Miami Dolphins: Vernon Hargreaves III, CB, Florida

    Though his 2015 season was not nearly as strong as 2014, Hargreaves has already shown that he’s capable of mirroring opposing receivers while playing fundamentally sound football as a bonus. His +22.3 coverage grade in 2014 is the best we’ve had in two years and while deep speed and size may come into question during the draft process, his upside as a natural cover man is too much to pass up.

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Shilique Calhoun, DE, Michigan State

    Aside from a couple positions, the entire defense needs an influx of talent and Calhoun gives the Bucs the pass rushing defensive end they’ve been looking for. He topped our pass rush grades among edge defenders at +45.3, picking up 11 sacks, 17 QB hits, and 48 hurries on the season.

    New York Giants: Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson

    While the new regime may look to immediately upgrade at linebacker, the defensive line needs an injection of youth as well, and Lawson has earned first round status after his breakout season. His +39.5 overall grade ranked 10th among edge defenders, showing well both as a pass rusher (+22.8) and against the run (+20.3).

    Chicago Bears: Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss

    While most mock drafts have Tunsil as a lock top-10 pick, a limited sample size in our grading — as well as my own personal de-valuing of the left tackle position — have him dropping to No. 11. The Bears were one of the worst pass-blocking units in the league last year and Tunsil allowed only five pressures on 225 attempts while showing good athleticism in the run game (+12.1).

    New Orleans Saints: Sheldon Day, DT, Notre Dame

    One of the worst interior pass rushes gets an instant upgrade from Day, who finished fourth among interior defensive linemen with a +31.4 pass rush grade and ninth against the run at +28.7. Any help along the defensive front will help mitigate one of the worst pass defenses in the league.

    Philadelphia Eagles: Su’a Cravens, S/LB, USC

    The scheme is still up for debate in Philadelphia, but given the struggles their linebackers had in coverage, Cravens will be useful regardless of the defensive system. He played a hybrid linebacker/safety role at USC and projects to do the same in the NFL after posting impressive two-year marks of +23.4 against the run and +20.9 in coverage.

    Oakland Raiders: Myles Jack, LB, UCLA

    Despite missing most of the season due to injury, Jack is still in the first-round mix and he’ll be a part of the Raiders’ defensive re-build, adding much-needed talent at linebacker. Jack was our top coverage linebacker in the nation in 2014 at +15.0, while grading at +11.9 against the run the last two years.

    Los Angeles Rams: Jonathan Bullard, DE/DT, Florida

    With Chris Long possibly out of the mix and William Hayes a free agent, the Rams’ deep defensive line could suddenly look thin. Enter Bullard who posted the top grade against the run among interior defensive linemen at +50.5 while improving as a pass rusher this season to +7.7. He can play early-down defensive end while kicking inside as a pass rusher in sub packages, adding versatility to any defensive front.

    Detroit Lions: Robert Nkemdiche, DT, Ole Miss

    While the offensive line could certainly be addressed, the Lions swing for the fences with Nkemdiche who could become one of the best interior pass rushers in the draft. Like Bullard, he can play defensive end on early downs, while rushing against guards in sub packages. He graded at +23.4 as a pass rusher this season, good for seventh in the nation, but it was his improved play against the run (+11.8) that put him in the first round mix.

    Atlanta Falcons: Corey Coleman, WR, Baylor

    Not much has changed with this pick since December as the Falcons look to upgrade their Julio Jones-centric passing attack with another option on the outside. Coleman had a breakout season with 20 receiving touchdowns and 3.86 yard/ route, good for third in the nation.

    Indianapolis Colts: Chris Jones, DT, Mississippi State

    The Colts’ defensive rebuild starts in the trenches, and it may have started last season with third rounder Henry Anderson. Jones is going to be a hot name this offseason once the film is watched closely as he broke out this season with a +52.5 overall grade, including a +34.7 mark as a pass rusher. The former top recruit ranked right behind Buckner since week four, and in 1,053 snaps over the last two seasons, he’s posted an impressive +65.9 overall grade.

    Buffalo Bills: Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State

    Another pick that remains the same, Conklin fits the mauling, run-blocking profile that head coach Rex Ryan his looking for. He’s ranked fourth as a run blocker each of the last two years and he finished 2015 with only 11 pressures surrendered on 416 attempts.

    New York Jets: Leonard Floyd, OLB, Georgia

    The Jets were rotating their 300-pound defensive lineman on the edge last season, and while they had success, finding a true edge player is still an offseason goal. Floyd dabbled at traditional linebacker this season, only adding to his versatility, but it’s his pass rushing that makes him a first-rounder (+28.8, 13th in the nation). He was strong against the run as well at +17.0, and while an Anthony Barr-like NFL transition may be unlikely, he does bring a movable chess piece to a blitz-heavy defensive front.

    Washington Redskins: Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama

    Ragland was one of a number of standouts in Alabama’s front-7, strong against both the run (+13.2) and in coverage (+9.8) while successfully blitzing and rushing off the edge at times (+7.7). With one of the worst inside linebacker situations in the NFL, Washington will be watching all of the linebacker prospects very closely.

    Houston Texans: Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State

    The nation’s best all-around running back, Elliott brings the total package. He exhibits the sharp cutting necessary for a zone blocking running system, but he’s equally adept at getting downhill and running through contact as he was often asked to do at Ohio State. He’s a good fit for Houston’s diverse running attack and when you add in his +13.0 blocking grade that led the nation, as well as a +3.1 grade in the pass game, Elliott brings many dimensions to an NFL offense.

    Minnesota Vikings: Leontee Carroo, WR, Rutgers

    Just as was the case in Mock Draft 1.0, the Vikings look to aid in QB Teddy Bridgewater’s development by adding Carroo who is adept at getting open on vertical routes. He averaged 4.11 yards per route this season while grading at +15.0 in only eight games.

    Cincinnati Bengals: Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama

    Yet another carry-over pick, the Bengals have been in the market to upgrade at nose tackle where Domato Peko is moved off the point of attack far too often. Reed is stout against the run, ranking second overall at +38.9 and he showed better ability to affect the passing game at +5.8 while batting a total of 10 passes over the last two seasons.

    Pittsburgh Steelers: Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame

    With LT Kelvin Beachum a pending free agent, the Steelers pounce on Stanley who has been one of the nation’s better pass protectors at +10.1 and +9.7 the last two season.

    Seattle Seahawks: Andrew Billings, DT, Baylor

    The Seahawks would love to get an offensive lineman here, but there are no viable options on the board. Nose tackle Brandon Mebane hasn’t been the same player the last two years and he’s about the hit free agency. Billings could be the perfect replacement as he plays with great power that allows him to excel against the run (+47.1 last two seasons) while showing just as well as a pass rusher at +37.6.

    Green Bay Packers: Austin Johnson, DT, Penn State

    The big guys are coming off the board and that should be no surprise as the class of interior defensive linemen is a deep one. Johnson graded at +36.1 against the run, third in the nation, while tacking on seven sacks, two hits, and 14 hurries. Like Mebane in Seattle, nose B.J. Raji is set to hit free agency and Johnson adds a strong replacement in the middle.

    Kansas City Chiefs: Scooby Wright, LB, Arizona

    Seemingly always on the lookout for a complement to LB Derrick Johnson in the middle of the defense, Kansas City adds Wright who was one our No. 2 linebacker in the nation in 2014 (+50.6). Wright is coming off injury that limited him to only 174 snaps in 2015, but he’s quick to diagnose and excellent against the run, grading at +40.0 over the last two years.

    Arizona Cardinals: Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas

    One of the league’s best offenses gets even better with Henry who led all tight ends with a +10.6 receiving grade, a year removed from ranking fourth at +8.1. He can make plays down the field, a perfect fit for Arizona’s vertical passing game, and while the Cardinals ask a lot of their tight ends in the running game, Henry showed that ability as well with a +13.1 mark in 2014.

    Denver Broncos: Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama

    Another case of replacing a potential free agent, Denver DE Malik Jackson is set to hit the market so what better way to make up for missing production than with a similar player in Allen. He led all interior rushers with 13 sacks to go with six hits and 16 hurries, and while he only played 39.5 percent of Alabama’s defensive snaps, Allen’s two-year grade of +55.3 on only 903 snaps is just too much to pass up for Denver.

    Carolina Panthers: Sterling Shepard, WR, Oklahoma

    Carolina has invested in the wide receiver position in each of the last two drafts in Kelvin Benjamin and Devin Funchess, but Shepard brings a different dynamic compared to the big guys on the outside. Shepard’s route running makes Carolina’s offense even more dangerous as he picked up 974 yards from the slot while ranking second in the nation with a +27.8 receiving grade.

    This is interesting, although they appear to ignore potential and fit. I wonder what they would have had in previous drafts.

    Agamemnon

    #37428
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    And here it is. 😉
    Focus Draft: Round 1

    As first seen on our NBC Draft Show, the PFF takes a new approach, mocking the draft with the use of our unique College Football Focus data.
    PFF Analysis Team | 9 months ago
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    Focus-Draft-Rd1

    A mock draft unlike any other. What would PFF do? We are not trying to predict anything, but rather putting ourselves into the position of each team and using our college data to make what we feel is the best decision for each franchise.

    This process went through many iterations for us internally, and here’s what we came up with for the first ever Focus Draft.

    1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State

    While his 2014 was more of a roller coaster than you’d like to see from a top pick, the potential he showed in 2013 is just too much to pass up.

    2. Tennessee Titans – Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon

    The Titans will likely be fielding offers from teams looking to snag Mariota, and he’ll be too enticing to pass up for Tennessee if they stay on their spot. Just be sure to play to his strengths once he gets to the NFL.

    3. Jacksonville Jaguars – Vic Beasley, Edge, Clemson

    Beasley does his best work rushing off the edge and he’ll fit in nicely in the Jaguars’ scheme.

    4. Oakland Raiders – Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama

    The most productive wide receiver in the draft, and perhaps its best overall player, Cooper can win a variety of ways and he’ll be a weapon for quarterback Derek Carr from Day 1.

    5. Washington Redskins – Dante Fowler JR, Edge, Florida

    A versatile player at Florida, Fowler provides a balanced presence as an edge rusher in Washington’s 3-4 scheme. He’s capable of holding up against the run while providing a strong pass rush.

    6. New York Jets – Randy Gregory, Edge, Nebraska

    Off-field concerns aside, Gregory may have the most upside of any of the draft’s edge rushers. If he can gain and hold weight, he could develop into a much-needed edge rushing presence in the Jets’ front-7.

    7. Chicago Bears – Leonard Williams, Defensive Interior, USC

    This may be viewed as a “fall” by some, but Williams slots in nicely at this point in the draft. He can play the run while getting after the quarterback at a reasonable rate, and the Bears would be thrilled to get a defensive talent with his potential at this point.

    mock-ray8. Atlanta Falcons – Shane Ray, Edge, Missouri

    The edge rush run continues as Atlanta adds Ray to their porous pass rush. He was as productive as any pass rusher in college football last season, though concerns about his athleticism have his projections all over the board.

    9. New York Giants – La’el Collins, OT, LSU

    A powerful run blocker, Collins is capable of sliding inside to guard for the Giants while providing a long-term backup plan to replace left tackle Will Beatty.

    10. St. Louis Rams – DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville

    Extremely productive in his limited time last season, Parker is shifty for a big man and he knows how to make plays down the field despite his inability to run away from many cornerbacks.

    11. Minnesota Vikings – Kevin White, WR, West Virginia

    A different receiver from Parker, White is explosive in and out of breaks and he may just be scratching the surface on his potential. He adds an intermediate and deep presence to the Vikings passing game.

    12. Cleveland Browns – Danny Shelton, Defensive Interior, Washington

    Perhaps a best-case scenario for the Browns, the 350-pound Shelton is more than just a run clogger, as he can move all over the line and even get after the quarterback.

    13. New Orleans Saints – Nelson Agholor, WR, USC

    Often overlooked in a deep wide receiver class, Agholor adds open-field shiftiness and strong route running to the Saints’ offense. He could be extremely productive with Brees throwing him the ball.

    14. Miami Dolphins – Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State

    The run on wide receivers continues as the Dolphins add Strong’s ability to go up and make contested catches against opposing defensive backs.

    15. San Francisco 49ers – Henry Anderson, Defensive Interior, Stanford

    A CFF favorite, Anderson may have been the most difficult interior defensive lineman to block in the entire nation. Equally proficient against the run as he is rushing the passer, he’ll provide a strong every-down presence to a suddenly thin 49ers defensive line.

    mock-gurley16. Houston Texans – Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia

    With Arian Foster getting up there in age and Gurley coming off injury, this could be a perfect fit for the Texans. Head Coach Bill O’Brien runs a variety of run concepts and Gurley is versatile enough to be productive in both gap and zone schemes.

    17. San Diego Chargers – Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin

    As runners, we have Gurley and Gordon as 1a and 1b, so the Chargers won’t feel too bad about losing out on Gurley. Gordon can step right in to pair with third down back Danny Woodhead to re-vamp the Chargers running attack.

    18. Kansas City Chiefs – Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford

    With former top overall pick Eric Fisher’s early-career struggles, the Chiefs go back to the offensive tackle well to snag Peat.

    19. Cleveland Browns (from Buffalo Bills) – Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State

    While Smith often looks like he’s playing at a different speed from everyone else, he’s more than just a run-by-the-defense type of player. He’s shown more than capable of making difficult catches down the field, and underrated part of becoming a true deep threat.

    20. Philadelphia Eagles – Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Oklahoma

    Off-field concerns aside, Green-Beckham brings a physical downfield presence to an offense that creates as many deep ball opportunities as any in the league.

    21. Cincinnati Bengals – Trey Flowers, Edge, Arkansas

    The draft’s best run-stopping edge defender, Flowers brings some sneaky pass rush ability as well. Even though he’s not explosive off the edge, he finds his way to the quarterback and he was extremely productive in the SEC last season.

    22. Pittsburgh Steelers – Landon Collins, SS, Alabama

    With Troy Polamalu retiring, this is one of the draft’s great first round fits. Collins can play in and around the line of scrimmage against the run while covering tight ends and playing some deep safety when necessary.

    23. Detroit Lions – Grady Jarrett, Defensive Interior, Clemson

    One of the nation’s most disruptive defensive interior players a year ago, Jarrett brought it as a pass rusher and against the run. He’ll fill a major void for the Lions while bringing the ability to play either 1 or 3-technique.

    mock-kikaha24. Arizona Cardinals – Hau’oli Kikaha, Edge, Washington

    One of the nation’s most productive edge rushers, Kikaha’s relentless style is a good fit for the Cardinals defense that needs a player capable of winning one-on-one battles.

    25. Carolina Panthers – Ereck Flowers, OT, Miami

    A powerful run blocker when he gets his hands on defenders and an adept pass protector for the Hurricanes last season. Didn’t surrender a sack last season and only three hits all season long.

    26. Baltimore Ravens – Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF

    A victim of some sub-standard passing for UCF, Perriman exploded onto the scene with his 40 time at his pro day but he flashes an ability to make plays down the field and showed well getting off press coverage. If he can keep his drops under control has a chance to replace and improve upon Torrey Smith’s production down the field.

    27. Dallas Cowboys – Jalen Collins, CB, LSU

    Only 10 starts at LSU during his career but some impressive performances this season and stands out in a deep corner class that lacks the top players for what he can do rather than necessarily what he has done consistently. Missing 10 tackles in limited playing time is a concern he’ll need to address.

    28. Denver Broncos – Brandon Scherff, G, Iowa

    Widely viewed as a player who needs to slide inside from tackle to guard, Scherff struggled in his senior season as a pass protector but displayed power as a run blocker that should translate well to the guard position in the NFL.

    29. Indianapolis Colts – Marcus Peters, CB, Washington

    Peters’ game is all about physicality and at this point to a fault. Physical corner play is in vogue right now and he brings that, but needs to control the contact down the field if he isn’t to be a penalty magnet when he gets onto an NFL field.

    30. Green Bay Packers – Jordan Phillips, Defensive Interior, Oklahoma

    The Packers have brought back B.J. Raji for another season but Phillips could be their long term answer at nose tackle. A long, powerful player, Phillips consistently controls blockers, holding linemen at the line of scrimmage to keep his linebackers clean. If he can learn to shed more consistently Phillips could become a dominant player in the NFL.

    31. New Orleans Saints (from Seattle Seahawks) – Maxx Williams, TE, Minnesota

    The Saints supplemented their receiving corps with Jimmy Graham’s production at tight end in recent seasons and Maxx Williams would be a different kind of tight end to replace those numbers. Not the athletic freak that Graham is, Williams is a more adept blocker while still being able to contribute in the passing game.

    mock-hill32. New England Patriots – Troy Hill, CB, Oregon

    The Patriots have lost a number of corners through free agency and should look to address that need here. There is an emphasis on what corners can do in this draft but Hill is consistently in good position in coverage and with the ability to make plays on the ball for pass defenses, notching 11 during his final season with the Ducks.

    Agamemnon

    #37620
    sdram
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    Rams – Offseason priorities – I mean besides finding the best Mexican food in the LA area. Might I suggest La Paz on Main Street in El Segundo. The last time I dined there, 1974, it was excellent. http://losangeles.menupages.com/restaurants/la-paz-restaurant/

    1. Resign the CB’s – For me, Johnson is the most important piece here, Jenkins is solid – both should be paid even if it means cutting salary and perhaps my favorite in Chris Long’s.

    2. Address the QB position – Depending on his contract, I would kick Foles to the curb and look closely at what may be a decent crop of current backups\semi starters that might become available(not RGIII) – they could perhaps court a QB from a list of Osweiller, McCarron, Landry Jones, Kaepernick, etc – they need more QB talent – and last but not least, draft somebody to compete with Keenum, Mannion, and the signee(s).

    3. WR – They definitely need a talent bump. Austin was pretty solid this year but the rest – including Britt – were average or below.

    4. Whatever it takes to help all the young OL improve should be a priority.

    5. Receiving TE – Cook seems to be awful one dimensional and expensive.

    6. MLB. Laurenitis has good qualities but he’s not really an impact player. I think he’s below average in many respects. He’s not much in coverage or as a blitzer and he’s not an elite run stuffer.

    #37629
    Avatar photoInvaderRam
    Moderator

    i do think parker will be good but no way i pick him over gurley.

    the more and more i think about it the rams should just wait until the later rounds and pick up another qb. i want dak prescott.

    de or wr in the first round.

    #37638
    Avatar photoZooey
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    The good news, though, is that the NFL runs a “keeper” league, so the Rams don’t have to draft Gurley again. They already have him.

    #37945
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    Zooey

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    The good news, though, is that the NFL runs a “keeper” league, so the Rams don’t have to draft Gurley again. They already have him.

    True

    #37947
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    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft

    15. ST. LOUIS RAMS

    (7-9) Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State: With rookie Pro Bowler Todd Gurley and the NFL’s most ferocious defensive line, the Rams are only a legitimate quarterback away from contention. Cook is a polarizing prospect in part due to an abrasive personality, but he’s arguably the most pro-ready quarterback in this class.

    15. ST. LOUIS RAMS

    (7-9) Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State: The Rams have a very talented roster, except at the most important position in sports: quarterback. St. Louis needs to address the position this offseason and Wentz has arguably the most upside of any passer in this draft class.

    #37949
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    The Rams might have taken Cook last year at 10, according to Randy K. I put Mannion as equal to those guys, but that is just me.

    Agamemnon

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    Agamemnon

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    from off the net

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    Deadpool

    mock draft 2.0

    Version 1.0 had the Rams trading back with Houston and still grabbing Lynch. The thought was Lynch would slide a little and Houston would want to trade up for Elliott. Well with QB and RB taken care of for Houston, they are not trading up for Elliott.

    So this time I am trading up for a QB. In 2013 Oakland traded the #3 overall for Miami’s #12 overall and #42 overall. So there is some precedent as far as moving up into the top part of the draft from the middle. Also, in that same draft the Rams moved from 16th to 8th for TA. Buffalo and the Rams swapped 1sts, 3rds and the Rams threw in their 2nd and 7th.

    Another thing about the Rams since Fisher and Snead took over. They move around in the middle of the draft. Either to add picks or add players, giving up picks. With a shortage of picks, I could really see a move down in the 2nd to add a pick or 2 later on.
    2012 – swapped 2nds and added a 5th
    2013 – traded 2 6ths for a 5th
    2014 – nothing of note
    2015 – swapped 2nds for a 3rd and a 6th

    Point is, I’m not worried about losing a draft pick to get the QB I want, as you can move around and pick up picks later.

    Needs in order:

    QB – starter or future starter. Keenum is fine short term.
    WR – You need a 3rd WR, cannot count on Bailey for multiple reasons, and Quick is a huge ?
    DE – Need some depth behind Quinn and Hayes.
    FS – with McLeod gone, it looks pretty thin there.
    TE – its Kendricks and Cunningham and that’s it for now. Throw Harkey in there as well I guess.
    CB – Depth needed, plus EJ and Tru have missed time to injury. You can never have enough CBs.
    DT – Rotational depth.

    I think DT depth will be filled in FA later on as that is a place to find some value.
    TE will also be addressed in FA, they pursued Lewis and Miler is in for a visit today. Still, depth is needed.
    C isn’t a big concern for me right now. And 1 of 2 things will happen this year: 1. Barnes plays well and that’s that or 2. Barnes plays poorly and C becomes a focus next year.
    FS concerns me, but the consensus (and I agree) is that the brain trust doesn’t prioritize the FS spot. And they think they can develop 1.

    With that my mock 2.0

    1.15 Trade – Rams trade the #15 overall, the #43 overall (1st 2nd rounder) and a 2017 3rd or 4th for the Ravens #6 overall. The Rams need a QB and it seems like they like none of the FAs available. They also have an extra 2nd and that even if they give up next years 3rd or 4th, they will still have comp picks in both those rounds. So looks at like this: swapping 1sts an extra for Bradford and a pick for losing JJ or McLeod gets you your QB of the future. The Ravens need help all over and were heavily represented at Clemson’s pro day. So Alexander? Maybe Dodd or Lawson? They could use Ragland. All these picks make more sense at 15 then 6.

    1.8. Jared Goff – QB – Cal – I’m not sure he is the typical QB Fisher likes, but he needs a QB that can start and start sooner then later. Goff is a California kid and not that I think FOs and coaches care about ticket sales, he could be popular in LA. He can make all the throws, is accurate and his hand size doesn’t bother me. This assumes Wentz is gone to Cleveland regardless of where Kaep. goes. And that Dallas passes on a QB.

    2.45 Carl Nassib – Penn State – This is the one pick I would love to see get moved to the tail end of round 2 to pick up a 3rd or 4th and a 6th like last year. Maybe for Cook? Maybe for Lynch if he slides in the 2nd? I think you could still get Nassib at the end of the 2nd and add valuable picks in the process. He’s a really nice strength/ speed combo guy that could use some seasoning behind Hayes.

    3.76 Rashad Higgins – Colorado State – He ran slow, but he plays smoother and faster then he times IMO. Catches everything and would fit with what the Rams need.

    4.107 KJ Dillion – West Virginia – He had a great combine running a 4.53 and 4.48 and I thought he looked very good. He played all over for WVU, slot, Big nickle, deep safety. He loves to hit, can make plays on the ball and has a swagger about him. 4th round seems right for where the Rams will start looking for a replacement for McLeod. 6′-0″ 210 lbs. As a bonus – he’s a kick and punt returner.

    I would love to get an extra #4 for some help at CB or DL or LBer

    6.172 David Morgan – UTSA – slow 40 time, but like I have said earlier, he is a old school blocking TE that is a safety blanket for the QB and not a seam stretcher. I compared him to the retiring Heath Miller. A throwback TE for a throwback offense is a nice fit.

    1 caveat – If Jaylon Smith is still around in the 4th round, I would have a seriously had time passing on him. With Tree and Barron, he can rehab and isn’t needed immediately. But could be a heck of a steal.

    #40571
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    Mocks are fun. The draft tells me I should get a WR and DT with 2 of the first 3 picks. That leaves me one in my pocket to spend on any bargain. ? QB, Jaylon Smith in the 2cd, or some other EPIC player. I am not trading up, cause I think that is a loser play, that high in the draft.

    Agamemnon

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    Flipper336

    Some ask, is this a weak draft? I wouldn’t call it weak at all but if you want Julio Jones, Andrew Luck, Marcel Dareus, Joe Thomas types at the top of the draft….then yes, it’s weak. The depth is just crazy good though, and not late round/UDFA grade types. You are going to get legit Top 50 tier “grade” talent in the 4th round. Especially because of the players that are very scheme specific and small school talent.

    Obviously just my opinion but this is one of the most interesting drafts I can remember.

    Example – The difference between #14 OT Jack Conklin or #28 OG Joshua Garnett and #89 OT Germain Ifedi or #97 OG Christian Westerman is RAZOR thin. In fact I’d switch them and I really like Conklin and Garnett.

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