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Rams injury report: C Barnes (concussion) probable; DE Quinn (hip); DE Long (knee); TE J. Cunningham (finger) all questionable.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) November 20, 2015
RT Havenstein (calf) doubtful. Cunningham was a new addition to injury report.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) November 20, 2015
With Havenstein doubtful, rookies Wichmann and Donnal both in line to start on O-line.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) November 20, 2015
Tough read on Long's availability for Ravens. After missing 5 weeks w/fractured bone common sense says you need more than 1 week of practice
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) November 20, 2015
Topic: Rams News Recap: Nov. 19
http://www.rams-news.com/known-for-defense-baltimore-has-struggled-in-close-games-this-season-pd/%5DKnown for defense, Baltimore has struggled in close games this season –PD
Baltimore Ravens’ football has been built around intimidating, dominant defense.http://www.rams-news.com/givens-no-longer-just-another-guy-pd/%5DGivens no longer ‘just another guy’ –PD
Jeff Fisher’s Rams teams have always been a tight-knit group. So just because a teammate leaves and goes elsewhere, doesn’t mean the friendship ends.http://www.rams-news.com/bears-had-good-plan-vs-rams-pd/%5DBears Had Good Plan vs. Rams –PD
Forget about the Rams’ offensive woes and quarterback change for a moment. Did Chicago offensive coordinator Adam Gase uncover the key to containing the Rams’ highly-ranked defense last Sunday at the Edward Jones Dome?http://www.rams-news.com/knee-injury-limits-quinn-rams-defense-pd/%5DKnee injury limits Quinn, Rams’ defense –PD
Defensive end Robert Quinn hasn’t been himself lately, and despite the depth the Rams possess at that position, it has taken some of the thunder out of the team’s pass rush.http://www.rams-news.com/tavon-austin-excited-to-return-to-site-of-high-school-championships-wagoner/%5DTavon Austin Excited to Return to Site of High School Championships –Wagoner
Although he, like most kids in town, was a fan of the Baltimore Ravens growing up, St. Louis Rams receiver Tavon Austin never attended an NFL game at M&T Bank Stadium. And yet, it is the site of many of his favorite football memories.http://www.rams-news.com/tim-barnes-concussion-upgraded-on-thursdays-injury-report-wagoner/%5DTim Barnes (concussion) Upgraded on Thursday’s Injury Report –Wagoner
The St. Louis Rams upgraded center Tim Barnes from limited participation to full participation on Thursday’s injury report.http://www.rams-news.com/game-preview-rams-vs-ravens-pd/%5DGame Preview: Rams vs. Ravens –PD
Following a humbling 37-13 loss to the visiting Chicago Bears and a decision to start Case Keenum in place of Nick Foles at quarterback, the Rams (4-5) don’t figure to get any sympathy from their next opponent.http://www.rams-news.com/sean-mannion-working-to-progress-while-not-playing-wagoner/%5DSean Mannion working to progress while not playing –Wagoner
After passing on drafting a quarterback with anything more than a late, token draft choice in any drafts since coach Jeff Fisher and general manager Les Snead arrived in 2012, the St. Louis Rams finally decided to use a little bit of valuable draft capital this year on the game’s most important position.http://www.rams-news.com/rams-tackle-greg-robinson-working-to-correct-technical-issues-wagoner/%5DRams tackle Greg Robinson working to correct ‘technical’ issues –Wagoner
When St. Louis Rams coach Jeff Fisher announced Monday that he was making a change at quarterback, he emphasized that quarterback was far from the only issue facing his offense.http://www.rams-news.com/nick-wagoner-can-keenum-open-things-up-for-gurley-again-audio/%5DNick Wagoner: Can Keenum Open Things Up for Gurley Again –Audio
http://www.rams-news.com/caplan-until-the-rams-get-it-right-on-offense-theyre-going-nowhere-audio/%5DCaplan: “Until the Rams Get it Right on Offense, They’re Going Nowhere –Audio
http://www.rams-news.com/priscoquinnkirwans-preview-rams-at-ravens-video/%5DPrisco/Quinn/Kirwan’s Preview: Rams at Ravens –Video
http://www.rams-news.com/jeff-fisher-press-conference-1118-video/%5DJeff Fisher Press Conference: 11/18 –Video
Knee injury slows Quinn
Jim Thomas
Defensive end Robert Quinn hasn’t been himself lately, and despite the depth the Rams possess at that position, it has taken some of the thunder out of the team’s pass rush.
Through five games, Quinn was averaging more than 50 plays per contest, second most to Aaron Donald among Rams defensive linemen. But Quinn, a two-time Pro Bowler, showed up on the injury report with a knee injury following the Game 5 loss at Green Bay, and since then his playing time and productivity have declined.
Since Green Bay, Quinn has missed one game entirely (vs. Minnesota) and averaged only 27 plays per game against Cleveland, San Francisco, and Chicago.
“We have some guys that have filled in very nicely,” linebacker James Laurinaitis said. “But when you have a Pro Bowler who’s not in there all the time like he usually is, you’re gonna notice it because he’s an impact player. He’s one of the best (in the league).”
One of the game’s elite pass rushers, Quinn had 17 tackles, four sacks, and three forced fumbles in the first five games. Since then, or since the knee injury, he has two tackles and one sack. But he has had four quarterback pressures, three quarterback hits, and four breakups (on batted or tipped passes) since the injury.
“I’ve slowed down a little bit, but need to get it back going,” Quinn said. “But no worries here. As soon as I get to feeling somewhat normal here, we’ll get it going.”
Quinn has declined to specify the exact nature of the injury, speaking only in generalities.
“Each day it’s been feeling better and better,” Quinn said. “Hopefully it just continues that way, and I can get back out there and be my old self again and contributing to this ballclub. Really no timetable on when it’s supposed to be 100 percent. One day at a time.”
Eugene Sims has been getting extra work at the right defensive end position, including the start against Minnesota, with Quinn hobbled.
“You just hope that his health continues to improve, and we can get him back to where he feels that he can do the things that he always does,” Laurinaitis said. “Hopefully we get Chris (Long) back soon and we’ll be able to kind of get a lot of starters back.”
Long has been sidelined since suffering a bone fracture in a knee-to-knee collision with Green Bay’s David Bakhtiari on Oct. 11, but was a full participant in practice Wednesday.
Quinn had played in 70 consecutive games prior to sitting out against the Vikings, so dealing with an injury is something new to him in the NFL.
“It’s a little different,” Quinn said. “There’s nothing you can really do besides study film, put your two cents in with what you see, help the next man.
“Hopefully, I won’t have to feel this way again. But it’s the NFL. It’s football. It’s a sport of collisions. It’s bound to happen eventually. It’ll be all right.”
After missing the Minnesota game, Quinn was on the field for only 14 plays against Chicago, almost exclusively on pass-rushing downs. Coach Jeff Fisher said the plan was to have Quinn on the field for 15 to 20 snaps against the Bears,
“I would expect to see his reps increase this week,” Fisher said.
Interestingly, the Rams’ first official injury report of the week Wednesday listed Quinn as not practicing because of a hip injury. There as no mention of the knee injury.
Topic: Long's back
Myles Simmons
LONG’S BACK AT PRACTICE
It’s been another trying year for defensive end Chris Long, who has been out the last four weeks since suffering a knee injury against the Packers. But the veteran is now a full participant in practice, after going through a limited session at the end of last week. He was listed as doubtful on the injury report heading into the matchup against Chicago, but admitted Wednesday that may have been a bit unrealistic.
“That was probably more hopeful than I was realistically close,” Long said. “I appreciate coaches kind of saying, ‘Hey man, let’s be smart and wait one more week. Let this thing completely heal.’ And when I’m back, I’m back. I’ll be close to 100 percent. That’s all I can ask for.”
But with this being the second straight year Long has had to miss games, it’s been a bit of a frustrating process.
“I’m not the first guy to get hurt, injured. It’s out of your control. But when you’re hurt, you feel like you’re letting people down,” Long said. “You’re watching your buddies play football, and that’s your job. You don’t feel like you’re doing your job.
“Especially two years in a row, it’s frustrating because there have been things that you just can’t avoid,” Long continued. “They’re freak things and I’m going to keep pushing to try to help this team, and do my part. I’m just excited to be back and help this team.”
If there’s a silver lining to Long’s injury this time around, it’s that there was no ligament damage to the knee so he did not have to undergo surgery.
“The bone just had to heal,” Long said. “It’s a fracture, so it’s not like something that when you’re back, you’re dragging around.”
Long lamented how he didn’t feel like himself when he got back to playing the Rams’ final five contests in 2014.
“So when I’m back, I’m back,” Long said. “And I’m really excited to help the team however I can. I’ve just missed being out there.”
“When you’re staring the prognosis down in the face, you’re like, man, it’s going to take forever,” Long added. “And then you’re out there like that. So we’ve got at least seven weeks of football left — at least — and I can’t wait to keep playing.”
Short injury report Weds. for Rams: Havenstein (calf) and Quinn (hip) did not practice. Yes, Quinn listed as hip, not knee this week.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) November 18, 2015
C Tim Barnes (concussion) limited. DE Chris Long (knee) was full participation.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) November 18, 2015
DT Doug Worthington cleared waivers and has been signed to Rams practice squad.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) November 18, 2015
DE Quinn (knee), RT Havenstein (ankle), S T.J. McDonald (foot) all return to practice Fri. They are listed as questionable for Bears.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) November 13, 2015
Interestingly, DE Chris Long (knee) also returns to practice on limited basis. He's doubtful for Bears, probably a couple weeks away.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) November 13, 2015
So with the exception of C. Long, it looks like all 53 players on Rams active roster could be available for Bears.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) November 13, 2015
Rams notes: Rookie DE Longacre enjoys productive NFL debut
Joe Lyons
Rams defensive end Matt Longacre fulfilled a lifelong dream on Sunday, playing in his first NFL game.
“Other than the loss, it was more than I could’ve ever expected or hoped for. Awesome,” the rookie from Northwest Missouri State said Tuesday, referring to the Rams’ 21-18 overtime loss to the Vikings in Minnesota. “It was good to get back out there on the field — it’d been eight or nine weeks since I’d actually been in a game (exhibition) — and then, to go out and make a few plays in the game, it was special.”
Signed as an undrafted free agent shortly after the NFL draft last spring, Longacre made five tackles, including four solos, and had a quarterback pressure in Minnesota.
“Matt was productive,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said. “He got off some blocks and made some plays. He was good. I mean, you look at the tape and you’ve got three guys (Longacre, rookie guard Andrew Donnal and second-year safety Maurice Alexander, from Eureka High) that really haven’t played much and there were some redeeming qualities to all three.”
Sunday’s game capped a hectic few days for the 6-foot-3, 260-pound Longacre, a two-time Mid-America Intercollegiate Athletic Association defensive player of the year.
Despite a productive preseason — he was among the team leaders with 18 tackles, six QB pressures and five QB hits — he was cut at the end of training camp and then re-signed to the practice squad.
On Friday, he was promoted to the 53-man roster. On Sunday, with starting defensive ends Chris Long and Robert Quinn unavailable because of knee injuries, Longacre got his chance.
“I was headed out for the walk-through Friday when Coach Fisher pulled me aside and told me I was being moved up to the varsity,” the 24-year-old recalled. “Nobody actually ever told me that I’d be active on Sunday, but as I warmed up, I realized that it was go time.”
Adding to Sunday’s excitement for Longacre was having his parents, Mark and Kathy, on hand.
“My dad was on a hunting trip in South Dakota, so he was able to get there without too much trouble,” said Longacre, whose family is from Omaha, Neb. “My mom, it was a little more of a scramble. At first, she talked about taking public transportation, but I told her I’d pay for a flight and told her that she couldn’t miss my first game.
“She ended up making the trip with one of my high school coaches and his family, so everything worked out great. When we walked out of the tunnel, I was able to find them in the stands and give them a head-nod, just like in high school and college.
“They’ve been with me through all the highs and lows and it meant everything to me to have them there for my first NFL game.’’
INJURY REPORT
The first injury report of the week for the Rams included six players who did not practice Wednesday — DE Chris Long (knee), DE Robert Quinn (knee), S T.J. McDonald (foot), T Rob Havenstein (ankle), LB Akeem Ayers (illness) and RB Todd Gurley (coach’s decision).
The report also included RB Chase Reynolds (thigh), who was a full participant in practice.
In spite of Wednesday’s report, Fisher is optimistic.
“I think Friday is going to be a really good day for us,” he said following the workout at Rams Park. “Todd was just a rest day today. He needed the rest; he’ll be fine. I think we’ll see Rob, both Robs — No. 94 (Quinn) and No. 79 (Havenstein) — on the field.’’
Starters Quinn, Havenstein, McDonald and Long missed last weekend’s game.
The Rams face Chicago on Sunday and the Bears practiced Wednesday without WR Eddie Royal (knee), LB Pernell McPhee (knee), S Antrel Rolle (ankle) and K Robbie Gould (illness). Going through limited workouts were RB Matt Forte (knee), C Hroniss Grasu (neck), T Jermon Bushrod (shoulder) and LB Shea McClellin (knee).
Forte, Royal, Grasu and McClellin all sat out Chicago’s 22-19 win in San Diego on Monday night.
RAM-BLINGS
The Rams announced that U.S. Army war hero Daniel Rodriguez, a wide receiver who walked on at Clemson and who was in training camp with the Rams this year, will return as an honorary team captain for Sunday’s game, at noon at Edward Jones Dome.
Rodriguez, 27, earned a Bronze Star and Purple Heart for his heroism in the Battle of Kamdesh in Afghanistan in October 2009. He was signed by the Rams after a tryout.
In the preseason, the 5-foot-8, 180-pounder caught two passes for 10 yards. He also averaged 23.7 yards on seven kickoff returns and 4.8 yards on six punt returns.
• With the first wave of fan voting for the Pro Bowl received, the Rams have a pair of players —Gurley and second-year defensive tackle Aaron Donald — in second place at their respective positions. Gurley, the top rookie vote-getter, trails Atlanta’s Devonta Freeman while Donald is runner-up to Cincinnati’s Geno Atkins.
Topic: Rams News Recap: Nov. 5
http://www.rams-news.com/its-the-kid-vs-the-master-in-minnesota-pd/%5DIt’s the Kid vs. the Master in Minnesota –PD
Were William Hayes in another line of work, you can bet he’d be in the man cave Sunday in front of the big screen to watch Minnesota’s Adrian Peterson and the Rams’ Todd Gurley.http://www.rams-news.com/rams-notebook-laurinaitis-finally-makes-his-way-home-pd/%5DRams notebook: Laurinaitis finally makes his way home –PD
Since entering the NFL in 2009, Rams middle linebacker James Laurinaitis has played in 29 of the NFL’s 31 venues either in the preseason or the regular season. And he has faced 30 of the league’s 32 squads as a visitor.http://www.rams-news.com/james-laurinaitis-looking-forward-to-minnesota-homecoming-wagoner/%5DJames Laurinaitis Looking Forward to Minnesota Homecoming –Wagoner
Since entering the league in 2009, St. Louis Rams linebacker James Laurinaitis has played in nearly every NFL city. Conspicuous in its absence from that list, however, is the place that Laurinaitis calls home: Minneapolis.http://www.rams-news.com/todd-gurley-opens-up-on-important-issues-like-candy-pd/%5DTodd Gurley Opens Up on Important Issues – Like Candy –PD
The hottest name in St. Louis sports is undoubtedly that of Todd Gurley, the Rams’ rookie running back sensation.http://www.rams-news.com/rams-offense-having-hard-time-hanging-on-pd/%5DRams Offense Having Hard Time Hanging On –PD
It’s not an epidemic, Rams coach Jeff Fisher said. But it sure seems pervasive.http://www.rams-news.com/rams-safety-t-j-mcdonald-downgraded-on-thursdays-injury-report-wagoner/%5DRams Safety T.J. McDonald Downgraded on Thursday’s Injury Report –Wagoner
The St. Louis Rams didn’t practice Thursday, but if they had, safety T.J. McDonald would have done less than he did in Wednesday’s workout because of a foot injury.http://www.rams-news.com/rams-schedule-much-lighter-over-seasons-second-half-wagoner/%5DRams’ schedule much lighter over season’s second half –Wagoner
The St. Louis Rams played one of the more difficult schedules in the league during the season’s first five weeks, squaring off against heavyweights like Seattle, Arizona, Pittsburgh and Green Bay.http://www.rams-news.com/sound-fx-jeff-fisher-micd-up-vs-san-francisco-video/%5D‘Sound FX’: Jeff Fisher Mic’d Up Vs. San Francisco –Video
http://www.rams-news.com/rams-rb-todd-gurley-talks-transition-to-nfl-video/%5DRams RB Todd Gurley Talks Transition to NFL –Video
http://www.rams-news.com/wagoner-talks-rams-vikings-audio/%5DWagoner Talks Rams-Vikings –Audio
http://www.rams-news.com/charles-davis-rbs-like-gurley-ap-are-still-capable-of-being-season-changers-audio/%5DCharles Davis: RB’s like Gurley & AP Are Still Capable of Being Season Changers –Audio
http://www.rams-news.com/all-22-view-todd-gurleys-71-yard-touchdown-video/%5DAll 22 View: Todd Gurley’s 71-yard Touchdown –Video
Topic: Rams News Recap: Oct. 23
http://www.rams-news.com/quinn-expects-to-be-challenged-sunday-pd/%5DQuinn expects to be challenged Sunday –PD
Rams defensive end Robert Quinn is looking forward to the challenge.http://www.rams-news.com/will-rams-dbs-press-the-issue-vs-cleveland-pd/%5DWill Rams DBs press the issue vs. Cleveland? –PD
Predating even the arrival of defensive coordinator Gregg Williams last season, the sight of Rams cornerbacks playing off coverage on opposing receivers in recent years has frequently driven fans and observers crazy.http://www.rams-news.com/rams-vs-browns-shanes-select-seven-gray/%5DRams vs. Browns: Shane’s Select Seven –Gray
On Sunday, the St. Louis Rams (2-3) will host the Cleveland Browns (2-4) in week seven action at the Edward Jones Dome. While St. Louis will be coming off its bye week, Cleveland will be looking to bounce back from an overtime loss against the Denver Broncos.http://www.rams-news.com/rams-must-solve-riddle-of-unfamiliar-opponents-wagoner/%5DRams Must Solve Riddle of Unfamiliar Opponents –Wagoner
To be sure, the St. Louis Rams’ record since Jeff Fisher arrived as head coach in 2012 is below average.http://www.rams-news.com/practice-report-1023-matchup-of-elites-with-quinn-thomas-simmons/%5DPractice Report 10/23: Matchup of Elites with Quinn, Thomas –Simmons
With the Browns coming to town for Sunday’s contest, there are plenty of interesting matchups across the board. But one that provides a certain amount of intrigue will pit one of the league’s best left tackles against one of its best defensive ends.http://www.rams-news.com/for-rams-making-trick-plays-work-on-special-teams-a-long-process-wagoner/%5DFor Rams, Making Trick Plays Work on Special Teams a Long Process –Wagoner
Every week, almost without fail, opposing coaches preparing to play the St. Louis Rams go out of their way to mention the need to be prepared for what the Rams can and will do on special teams.http://www.rams-news.com/robert-quinn-tavon-austin-probable-for-sunday-against-browns-wagoner/%5DRobert Quinn, Tavon Austin probable for Sunday against Browns –Wagoner
The St. Louis Rams have had some big names on their injury report all week but the news isn’t all bad as they head toward Sunday’s game against the Cleveland Browns.http://www.rams-news.com/garrett-reynolds-we-have-to-keep-growing-as-a-unit-video/%5DGarrett Reynolds: We Have To Keep Growing As a Unit –Video
http://www.rams-news.com/gregg-williams-we-play-our-safeties-deeper-than-any-team-in-the-league-video/%5DGregg Williams: We Play Our Safeties Deeper Than Any Team in the League –Video
http://www.rams-news.com/jeff-fisher-cleveland-is-a-legit-team-video/%5DJeff Fisher: Cleveland is a Legit Team –Video
http://www.rams-news.com/why-the-rams-and-their-physicality-are-the-browns-worst-case-scenario-audio/%5DWhy the Rams and Their Physicality are the Browns “Worst Case Scenario” –Audio
http://www.rams-news.com/tony-grossi-of-espncleveland-com-previews-the-rams-browns-game-audio/%5DTony Grossi of ESPNCleveland.com previews the Rams – Browns game –Audio
http://www.rams-news.com/mike-sandos-browns-rams-edge-video/%5DMike Sando’s Browns-Rams Edge –Video
http://www.rams-news.com/john-greco-talks-playing-with-the-rams-audio/%5DJohn Greco Talks Playing with the Rams –Audio
Topic: Rams News Recap: Oct. 22
http://www.rams-news.com/rams-secondary-comes-together-behind-jenkins-pd/%5DRams’ secondary comes together behind Jenkins –PD
On Green Bay’s first pass play of the day, quarterback Aaron Rodgers threw deep down the left sideline toward wide receiver Ty Montgomery. Rams cornerback Janoris Jenkins was in tight coverage and the pass fell incomplete.http://www.rams-news.com/good-for-gurley-browns-rank-last-against-the-run-pd/%5DGood for Gurley: Browns rank last against the run –PD
On Sunday at the Edward Jones Dome, Rams running back Todd Gurley can become only the second rookie in NFL history to rush for 140 or more yards in three consecutive games.http://www.rams-news.com/gurley-not-taking-favorable-matchup-for-granted-wagoner/%5DGurley Not Taking Favorable Matchup for Granted –Wagoner
Despite what the numbers say about the Cleveland Browns’ inability to stop the run so far this season, the St. Louis Rams and dynamic rookie running back Todd Gurley are taking nothing for granted as they head toward Sunday’s matchup.http://www.rams-news.com/with-rodger-saffold-out-rams-reshuffle-offensive-line-again-wagoner/%5DWith Rodger Saffold out, Rams reshuffle offensive line … again –Wagoner
When St. Louis Rams coach Jeff Fisher announced last week that right guard Rodger Saffold would miss the rest of the season because of a pending shoulder surgery, it was clear the offensive line would have to make a change.http://www.rams-news.com/rams-still-without-robert-quinn-tavon-austin-on-hypothetical-injury-report-wagoner/%5DRams still without Robert Quinn, Tavon Austin on hypothetical injury report –Wagoner
The St. Louis Rams had no changes on their Thursday injury report.http://www.rams-news.com/todd-gurley-press-conference-video/%5DTodd Gurley Press Conference –Video
http://www.rams-news.com/nick-foles-it-will-be-great-to-play-at-home-video/%5DNick Foles: It Will Be Great To Play at Home –Video
http://www.rams-news.com/rams-conscious-of-how-austin-davis-can-help-cleveland-wagoner/%5DRams conscious of how Austin Davis can help Cleveland –Wagoner
Given the ever-changing nature of NFL rosters, it’s a simple fact of life that every week is going to feature games in which players square off against their former team.http://www.rams-news.com/rams-update-5-month-recovery-for-saffold-after-surgery-pd/%5DRams update: 5-month recovery for Saffold after surgery –PD
Rams offensive lineman Rodger Saffold underwent surgery Wednesday in New York City to repair a torn labrum in his right shoulder.http://www.rams-news.com/jim-thomas-talks-tuesdays-public-hearing-on-rams-future-audio/%5DJim Thomas Talks Tuesday’s Public Hearing on Rams’ Future –Audio
http://www.rams-news.com/kurt-warner-and-isaac-bruce-talk-rams-and-gurley-audio/%5DKurt Warner and Isaac Bruce Talk Rams and Gurley –Audio
http://www.rams-news.com/nick-wagoner-talks-rams-vs-browns-audio/%5DNick Wagoner Talks Rams vs. Browns –Audio
http://www.rams-news.com/rams-notes-team-reunites-rookie-offensive-linemen-pd/%5DRams notes: Team reunites rookie offensive linemen –PD
Rams rookie guard Jamon Brown, a third-round draft pick from Louisville, spent most of training camp on the right side and then started the first five games of the regular season at left guard.http://www.rams-news.com/teams-not-throwing-jenkins-way-pd/%5DTeams not throwing Jenkins’ way –PD
On Green Bay’s first pass play of the day, quarterback Aaron Rodgers threw deep down the left sideline toward wide receiver Ty Montgomery. Rams cornerback Janoris Jenkins was in tight coverage and the pass fell incomplete.http://www.rams-news.com/dont-look-now-but-rams-have-chance-to-contend-pd/%5DDon’t Look Now, but Rams Have Chance to Contend –PD
Whenever conversation turns to the Rams and relevance within the NFC West, consumers reflexively check their wallets, their sanity or the ties between the club and media outlet offering such propaganda.http://www.rams-news.com/frank-cignetti-we-trust-our-preparation-video/%5DFrank Cignetti: We Trust Our Preparation–Video
http://www.rams-news.com/jeff-fisher-press-conference-1021-video/%5DJeff Fisher Press Conference – 10/21 –Video
Rams notes: Team reunites rookie offensive linemen
Joe Lyons
Rams rookie guard Jamon Brown, a third-round draft pick from Louisville, spent most of training camp on the right side and then started the first five games of the regular season at left guard.
Now, with veteran Garrett Reynolds stepping in to take the place of Rodger Saffold, who’s done for the season with a shoulder injury, Brown appears to be moving back to the right side.
“It’s not too bad,” the 22-year-old said following Wednesday’s practice at Rams Park. “I take it all the way back to college, where I played both sides, left and right tackle. Here, it’s pretty much the same. Now it’s just a matter of mastering the technique on the right side.
“The left side, you’re used to a certain play being on the front side and now, on the same play, you’re on the back side. It can get confusing at times, but I feel like I do a pretty good job with it.”
In the end, Brown said, it’s the coaches’ decision.
“Whether he wants me to play on the left or the right, it doesn’t matter,” the 6-foot-4, 323-pound Brown said. “I have a job to do and I’m going to do it on either side.”
With fellow rookie Todd Gurley leading the way, the Rams ran for 164 yards in a 24-22 win in Arizona and followed up with 191 rushing yards in a 24-10 loss at Green Bay. Brown feels that’s a sign of things to come for the Rams and their youthful offensive line.
On Sunday, Gurley and the Rams will face Cleveland and a rushing defense that has allowed a league-worst 149.8 yards per game on the ground.
“I’m very confident in our line,’ he said. “I think we’ve progressed a lot, coming from OTA’s into training camp and now into the season. I think we’ve made huge strides and we will continue to get better week in and week out.
“Obviously, there are still things we can do better and we’re constantly trying to work on those things.”
Brown is excited to be working alongside of second-round draft pick Rob Havenstein, but …
“It doesn’t skip a beat because I’ve worked with everybody in our room,” he said. “I just have to make sure I do my job and I’m sure everybody else will do theirs. We gotta continue to do what we do. It’s not really about their defense, it’s about us. And as long as we keep that mindset, we’re going to be fine.”
ALEXANDER IS BACK
Maurice Alexander, a reserve safety and special teams player, is back at practice after missing two games with a groin injury. He was hurt early in the Pittsburgh game on Sept. 27.“I’m feeling good, nice to be 100 (percent) again,” the second-year pro from Eureka High said. “When I first got hurt, I was hoping to get back quicker but the docs and trainers — they obviously know more than I do — they told me it’d be even longer than it’s been.“It was definitely frustrating because I felt good and felt faster than ever. An injury like that, you really have to be patient because if you push it too much, try to come back too soon, there’s always a chance you can re-injure it and be out even longer.
“But I’m back to where I was before and I’m looking forward to getting out there again on Sunday.”
RAMS IN THE COMMUNITY
The Rams will take part in a pair of charity events:
• Two-time Pro Bowl punter Johnny Hekker will punt off the roof of SSM Health St. Clare Hospital in Fenton Thursday at 9 a.m. as part of the SSM Kick Cancer Rooftacular. Hekker, kicker Greg Zuerlein and long snapper Jake McQuaide are co-chairs of the fund-raising program, which supports the needs of cancer patients throughout the community.
• In partnership with the United Way of Greater St. Louis, Rams players Benny Cunningham, Bradley Marquez, Marcus Roberson and Doug Worthington will join the team’s cheerleaders, Rampage and staff in hosting a Play 60 event Thursday from 3:30-5 p.m. at the O’Fallon Park YMCA.
RAM-BLINGS
For a team coming off a bye week, the Rams’ first injury report of the week was surprisingly extensive.Sitting out Wednesday’s workout at Rams Park were the expected injured players — linebacker Alex Ogletree (broken leg), defensive end Chris Long (knee) and tight end Lance Kendricks (finger) — but also included running back Tre Mason (ankle), wide receiver Tavon Austin (hamstring) and defensive end Robert Quinn (knee). Cornerback Janoris Jenkins (concussion) was limited.And the Browns’ list is even longer. Defensive backs Joe Haden (concussion/finger) and Tashaun Gipson (ankle) did not practice and neither did linebacker Craig Robertson (ankle) and tight end Rob Housler (hamstring). Veteran offensive lineman Joe Thomas and defensive linemen Randy Starks were given the day off to rest.
The following Cleveland players were limited on Wednesday _ tight end Gary Barnidge (ankle), linebacker Tank Carder (shoulder), defensive lineman John Hughes III (knee), wide receiver Marlon Moore (hamstring) and defensive lineman Danny Shelton (knee).
Back-up quarterback Johnny Manziel (right elbow) was a full participant in Wednesday’s workout.
• The Rams unofficial depth chart lists ex-safety Mark Barron as a starter at linebacker. Barron, who started the Green Bay game, was acquired from Tampa Bay at the trade deadline last year and is listed at 6 feet 2 and 213 pounds.
Teams not throwing Jenkins’ way
5 hours ago • By Jim ThomasOn Green Bay’s first pass play of the day, quarterback Aaron Rodgers threw deep down the left sideline toward wide receiver Ty Montgomery. Rams cornerback Janoris Jenkins was in tight coverage and the pass fell incomplete.
After that, Rodgers gave Jenkins the “Richard Sherman” treatment during the Rams’ 24-10 loss Oct. 11. Rodgers threw 29 additional passes that day at Lambeau Field; not one of those 29 was thrown in the direction of Jenkins, whose stat line consisted of all zeroes. No tackles, no interceptions, no pass breakups. …
“It was boring, but at the same time I still had to play football,” Jenkins said. “I couldn’t go to sleep out there because it was A-Rod. In my mind every play I was just thinking he was gonna come over there anyway.”
But Rodgers didn’t. Much was made of the fact that Rodgers didn’t throw at Sherman, the much-heralded Seattle cornerback, a year ago when the Packers and Seahawks met in their 2014 season opener.
Perhaps Rodgers was showing similar respect to Jenkins.
“I see it as a sign of respect,” Jenkins said. “But at the same time, he probably saw something on the other side that he liked better. Probably match-up wise or whatever.”
A week earlier in Arizona, Jenkins was involved in a couple of high-profile plays — one good (an acrobatic interception) and one bad (a pass interference penalty). But otherwise, Cardinals quarterback Carson Palmer didn’t throw much in Jenkins’ direction either.
“Most times, what I’ve been noticing the first five weeks, teams are basically trying me with the double move,” Jenkins said. “If they don’t have any success with that, they just go away from me. But like I said, I just stay on top of my game and don’t go to sleep out there.”
The Montgomery route against Jenkins in the Green Bay game was a double move — a stutter-and-go to be precise. But Jenkins didn’t take the bait.
He has, of course, taken the bait in the past and that has led to some feast-or-famine moments for the fourth-year pro.
The feast has come in the form of six defensive touchdowns scored by Jenkins since entering the league in 2012 — more than any other NFL player. One of those TDs came on a recovered fumble; the other five have come on interception returns for TDs, a total that ties the franchise record for career “pick 6s.”
The famine has come when Jenkins has gambled, going for the interception and getting beaten for TDs by receivers fooling him with double moves.
But such plays have been few and far between lately. Jenkins is playing well entering Sunday’s home game with Cleveland, displaying more game-to-game consistency than he has displayed in the past.
Pro Football Focus has him ranked 16th among all NFL cornerbacks in terms of overall grade. Opposing quarterbacks have only a 79.3 passer rating against him according to PFF.
While acknowledging that the gambling and double moves have resulted in some problems in the past, Jenkins feels he’s playing some of the best ball of his career.
“Yeah I do,” he said. “I say that to myself, that I’m finally 100 percent. No nagging injuries. I’m not out there with a sore knee or a sore ankle, you know what I’m saying? I’m just finally healthy.”
Although the Rams didn’t make much of it last season, Jenkins suffered a sprained MCL in the team’s Oct. 19 Monday game with Seattle, and it bothered him for much of the season. Teams knew that, and threw at him.
“Once they knew that I was hurt, they were coming at me,” Jenkins said.
He was on the team’s injury report for most of November because of that knee injury and reappeared on the injury report near the end of the year with a back issue.
“Why I was getting beat, I was hurt last year,” Jenkins said. “I don’t care what anybody says. Double moves, I was just trying to make plays.”
So far this season, Jenkins has 23 tackles, two interceptions, and two pass breakups.
Even after allowing two TD passes against Rodgers and Green Bay, the Rams as a team have allowed only five touchdown passes on defense all season, which is tied for the league low. While recognizing that the NFL is very much a week-to-week league, the secondary is finally showing signs of gelling as a unit.
“We’ve been together for a while now,” Jenkins said. “So everybody’s got a feel for each other, how each other plays. Their strengths and weaknesses, so we’ve just got to keep putting it together week in and week out.
“We’re pretty technique-sound. I think Coach D’s doing a good job, fixing our fundamentals and techniques within press.”
(Dennard Wilson is one of the Rams’ defensive backs coaches.)
Jenkins and fellow cornerback Trumaine Johnson are in their fourth season together in the Rams’ secondary, although Johnson has not been a full-time starter during all of that time. At safety, Rodney McLeod and T.J. McDonald are in their third years as starters.
McDonald is the only one of those four starters who is under contract after this season. The others are scheduled for unrestricted free agency.
In the case of Jenkins, the Rams have had ongoing discussions with his agent on a new deal since last spring. Jenkins, in fact, said the Rams made an offer to him last week during the Rams’ bye.
But the numbers apparently weren’t to Jenkins’ liking because he indicated Wednesday that he plans to wait until the end of the season to act on a contract, hinting that he may test the market.
“I’m not talking about the contract,” Jenkins said. “I ended that last week, when they gave me those numbers. It was something I didn’t want to hear. I ended it just like that. I’ll play it out. I’m gonna bet on myself.”
The 16th CB gets ~8 million per year, according to “Over the Cap”. http://overthecap.com/position/cornerback
Topic: JT chat, 10/20
Rams chat with Jim Thomas
http://sports.live.stltoday.com/Event/Rams_chat_with_Jim_Thomas_f7497f453106?Page=0
With Saffold out yet again, Reynolds to fill in as starter but what about depth now? Do we look at going with what we have, looking at teams practice squad players or even trade? Youth and inexperience concern me that we’ll struggle to even break .500 – young guys look decent so far but this is definitely what drives the bus
by TD51 2:02 PM[/i]I think the Rams will stand pat at this point on the o-line. Although they always look around to see what’s out there. They decided to sink or swim with youth when they expended 5 draft picks (one of which was the 2016 pick in the July supplemental draft) on offensive linemen and didn’t add a veteran starter via free agency.
by jthomas 2:04 PMHow is Saffold’s first surgically repaired shoulder holding up? Should we expect that to crop up, again? If not, will the latest surgery leave Saffold equally sound in the other shoulder?
by bfulton 2:04 PMTo my knowledge, that shoulder _ the left shoulder _ has not been a problem. Obviously, there are no guarantees that either shoulder will hold up over time.
by jthomas 2:05 PMWhat are expecting to see from the Rams this cone Sunday to you this gurley will wear his brace and what’s your predictions for the outcome and gurley numbers
by dave 2:06 PMI think the Rams will hold serve at home and defeat the Browns. This could be a big game for Gurley because the Browns enter the contest ranked last in the NFL in run defense. They are yielding 149.8 yards per game and 5.0 yards per carry.
by jthomas 2:07 PMDoes Saffold have a torn labrum? Have not heard exactly what is wrong with the shoulder.
by David 2:07 PMIt’s believed to be a torn labrum.
by jthomas 2:08 PMHow big of a crowd are you expecting for Sunday?
by Rams Fans United 2:08 PMI’m thinking it will be the smallest crowd so far this season. Somewhere in the 40,000s.
by jthomas 2:08 PMThe NFC West doesn’t look as strong this year with Seattle / San Fran struggling. What are the chances the Rams win the division this year?
by Gladdy 2:08 PMIt definitely doesn’t look as strong as it’s been for the last several years. You’d think the Rams should be able to be a contender, but based on what we’ve seen the previous three seasons under Fisher, seeing will be believing.
by jthomas 2:09 PMAny truth to the TE Cook trade rumors? If so, for what?
by bfulton 2:09 PMI’m told the Rams have received some calls on Cook, but nothing serious yet. Remember, we’re still 2 weeks until the trading deadline.
by jthomas 2:10 PMBTW…….Have the Rams announced which home games that they will be sporting the throwback unis? They don’t seem to promote that very much.
by Knux 2:10 PMI’m told the Rams will have two throwback games, but that one of them won’t be this week against Cleveland. (I would’ve have loved to have seen the old red-and-black Cleveland Rams uniforms circa 1937 in this one against the Cleveland Browns.) I have no idea why the Rams have waited to announce the throwback days. There are only 5 home dates left after Cleveland: San Francisco, Chicago, Arizona, Detroit, and Tampa Bay. So it will be two of those five games.
by jthomas 2:13 PMFirst Uni question of the day what are the throw back dates this year?
by Up North 2:13 PMActually, you’re the second, so you get the silver medal. Dates have yet to be announced, but I’m told it won’t be Sunday vs. Cleveland.
by jthomas 2:14 PMWhat’s the most we can get for Jared Cook?
by Tommyverceticb7 2:14 PMHave no idea. Keep in mind, any team that trades for him inherits a contract that pays him $7 million in 2016 and $7.1 million in 2017. He’s averaged 51 catches for about 650 yards, and 4 TDs over his two full seasons.
by jthomas 2:16 PMHow is Gurley on blitz pickup?
by David 2:16 PMI think he’s been pretty good so far.
by jthomas 2:16 PMHow about some throw back offense to the greatest show on turf days?
by David 2:16 PMI’m all for it.
by jthomas 2:16 PMMight as well take the seventh rounder for Cook. He is garbage…a worthless football player. Plus, no WAY we resign him!
by laramsfan 2:16 PMHow can you call a player who has averaged 51 catches for 650 yards and 4 TDs in his 2 full seasons garbage? Plus, he’s under contract for two additional seasons.
by jthomas 2:17 PMmeant to say “retain” him, not “resign”
by laramsfan 2:18 PMOK that makes more sense.
by jthomas 2:18 PMAfter watching the Chargers torch the Packer D for 500+ yards what percentage would you put on the O line, receivers, and QB for the lack of production
by Up North 2:18 PMI think I answered this one last week. And I think my percentages there were QB (55 percent), O-line (30) percent), WRs (15 percent).
by jthomas 2:19 PM@jthomas Is it possible they could be wearing the throwbacks on the road after their last home game?
by PureAdrenaline 2:20 PMI don’t think that’s how it works.
by jthomas 2:20 PMAny chance Kevin Demoff or any other Rams brass shows up for the dog and pony show or is this all Eric Grubman and ill willed fans?
by skibum 2:20 PMI believe it’s going to be the Eric Grubman show.
by jthomas 2:20 PMAny news on Alec Ogletree? How is his recovery coming and will he be back this season? I read he could be back for the Cards game?
by AzRamsFan 2:20 PMHe’s still injured. Last week, I saw him with the leg in a cast and using one of those scooters to get around. The Arizona game would’ve been the earliest he could return had the Rams put him on the IR/designated for return list immediately. Don’t know if that’s the realistic target; remember Fisher said it would be at least 2 months.
by jthomas 2:23 PMI’m kinda glad we didn’t draft Manziel.
by David 2:23 PMYa think?
by jthomas 2:24 PMany news on uniform motifications? tired of the purple grapes at home. frankly, there awful to look at.
by ekern55 2:24 PMHave heard nothing.
by jthomas 2:24 PMJim,
Thanks for the chat, always the high point of my week. I think Joyner has been playing pretty well so far, do you concur?
by JoeRamfan 2:24 PMAgreed. Even though he got burned on that James Jones TD pass in Green Bay, I think he has made considerable strides as compared to his rookie season. He has been an active, aggressive tackler and has made some plays on the ball.
by jthomas 2:26PMWith the running game improving do you think we will see the true full back promoted from the practice squad I love that full back dive play
by Up North 2:26 PMHarkey does pretty well as a lead blocker. So does Kendricks, who lined up there a good deal in Green Bay.
by jthomas 2:27 PMHave the owners stated how much the relocation fees will be for teams to move?
by jim 2:27 PMNot yet. They’re working on it.
by jthomas 2:27 PMPretty telling that Demoff won’t even announce the throwback jersey dates. He’s quit on the fans and is trying to destroy the fanbase.
by steve 2:27 PMI don’t know about all that, but it is a little strange.
by jthomas 2:28 PMat this point in the season, what do you consider the Rams greatest needs for next year? OL and WR?
by Greg in Raleigh 2:28 PMA big part of that answer depends on what free agents the Rams re-sign, and which ones leave. Jenkins, Johnson, McLeod are pending free agents in the secondary. Same for Hayes, Sims, and Fairley on the defensive line, Quick at wide receiver, Harkey at fullback/tight end, Zuerlein at kicker. Also is Long back next year? Saffold? Cook (if he makes it through this season)?
by jthomas 2:31 PMAccording to ESPN, the Rams offense ranks dead last in total yds, total yds per game, passing yards per game, total points scored, and points scored per game. Pretty dog gone terrible. Who would you say should be held accountable for this outcome? I say this is a complete coaching failure.
by Steve 2:31 PMIt’s all Schottenheimer’s and Bradford’s fault.
by jthomas 2:31 PMWhat are you initial feelings about Havenstein and Brown, on their Way to being above average or is the development slower than expected
by Greg in Raleigh 2:32 PMI’d say on their way to being above average.
by jthomas 2:32 PMcute
by Steve 2:32 PMWell, weren’t they the root of all evil?
by jthomas 2:33 PMAny update on your relocation odds?
by Rams Fans United 2:33 PMHolding firm at 45-55.
by jthomas 2:33 PMJim, Do you think coach Fisher will sit Cook and put TE Cunningham in on the action?
by Quarryworkers Eighttwentynine 2:33 PMIf Cunningham plays it will because Kendricks can’t go following the finger surgery.
by jthomas 2:34 PMJim- what year is your P-D chat Banner photo from?
by Shark 2:34 PMI don’t know. I never see it when I log on for this chat. But I told them a few years ago, don’t update it until the Rams finish the season above .500! (Wait a minute _ that was 2003.)
by jthomas 2:35 PMDo you see the Rams making any splash before the trade deadline?
by Matt 2:35 PMWell, I think there’s a little smoke behind these Jared Cook rumors. We’ll see.
by jthomas 2:35 PMGA. jim nope we miss rams football if the lay an egg on sunday how much fire wiil coach fish be under
by roc 2:36 PMFrom management/ownership? Probably very little. From the fans? Probably a lot.
by jthomas 2:37 PMHi Jim, Rams back at it again in a must win against Cleveland? They have a shot at the division! On a side note, I’m sure you have covered better high schools games than what we saw last night between the Giants and Eagles!
by Stevespn 2:37 PMIf the Rams truly want to be a playoff contender, they have to defeat teams like the Browns at home. Plain and simple. As for the Giants-Eagles, I was able to watch most of it. Yeah, it was tough to watch.
by jthomas 2:38 PMI think the rams are playing the oline out of position would it be better to move greg inside gaurd an havenstien to left tackle those to guys on the same side could dominate dline in the run game
by roc 2:38 PMI’m not sure Havenstein has the footwork or overall athleticism to play left tackle. He seems like the prototypical right tackle to me.
by jthomas 2:39 PMCan you share the list of Rams’ pending free agents?
by bfulton 2:39 PMI mentioned them in an earlier answer. These are off the top of my head, so I might miss 1 or 2: CB Jenkins, CB Johnson, S McLeod, DE Sims, DE Hayes, DT Fairley, K Zuerlein, WR Quick, FB Harkey.
by jthomas 2:40 PMI’ve not been impressed with Mason. Can Cunningham or Watts give Gurley enough of breather so that he isn’t used up too quickly?
by bfulton 2:41 PMI wouldn’t give up on Mason just yet. He had that hamstring injury at the start of the regular season, and has barely played the past two games.
by jthomas 2:41 PMWhat about the Town Hall, what can we expect from that?
by Rams Fans United 2:41 PMShould be interesting. This is a chance for fans and non-fans to have their voices heard, offer opinions and ask questions. I’m sure the league will be paying attention, too, to how many people show up.
by jthomas 2:43 PMGreat to have you here JT! With all the scuttlebutt floating around regarding a possible trade interest in Jared Cook, I was wondering how much damage would be inflicted to the Rams salary cap. As I understand it, he counts for around $8 million for the next few seasons. Does that dead money get pro rated or does it immediately disappear? I know that when the Rams traded Bradford, he still counts $3.5 million against the 2015 cap. Can you clarify?
by Knux 2:43 PMAbout $2.6 million of unamortized signing bonus is left on Cook’s 2016 and 2017 contracts. So that amount would accelerate into this year’s cap basically negating any saved salary from the remainder of his 2015 base. But trading him now wouldn’t be cap prohibitive.
by jthomas 2:48 PMPrediction on the Alderman vote?
by J. Kerth 2:49 PMI believe when all is said and done they approve the financing.
by jthomas 2:49 PMI know it’s early but we have Jenkins and Tru (i believe) both in contract years, any idea what the plan is to retain these guys? I know we have Gaines that would have been a starter but what do you foresee with the DB’s re-signing with the Rams?
by TD51 2:49 PMI believe the Rams were hoping at one point to have Jenkins wrapped up right around the start of the season, but that didn’t happen obviously. I’m not sure things have ever been that far along with Johnson. I think they’ve both played pretty well lately. (Yes, even given that busted coverage by Johnson.)
by jthomas 2:54 PMJim, I have been a Rams fan far too long to buy into the narrative that says we are going to beat all the teams with a losing record currently on our remaining slate and deliver a winning record for first time in 13 years. Hang on – aren’t we one of those teams with a losing record that our opponents will be eyeing up as a likely W! Rams stacking wins just doesn’t happen. Do we know when the team won 3 back to back games, let alone 4 or 5? (My guess is start of Lineham era in 2006) . So, from your knowledge of this year’s team, what record do we have after the next 4 Games? I reckon we frustratingly split 2-2 (W against Browns/Chicago; L against 49ers(!) and Minnesota) to go 4-5. Hope I am wrong, I like Nick Foles but offense just too fragile to put up 20+ points per Game to win regularly.
by UK Ram 2:55 PMOf course. But I’m not aware of any narrative that says the Rams are going to win all these winnable games just because the schedule lightens up from here on out. I don’t think anyone expects that, and as you mention, the Rams have not shown any ability to stack up wins under Fisher. During his tenure in St. Louis, the team has won as many as 3 games in a row only once _ in 2012.
by jthomas 2:59 PMTime for the weekly question on Quick. Any chance Quick has shaken some of that rust off over the bye? will have an impact on Sunday?
by Patrick 3:00 PMI think it’s trending that way. He went from 6 plays and zero targets vs. Arizona to 20 plays and three targets vs. Green Bay.
by jthomas 3:01 PMGuess this goes out to the chat room, I live in OH but may be coming in for a game, possibly even this weekend. Any recommendations of affordable hotels nearby so don’t have to drive to game? Any other advice? Thanks!
by TD51 3:01 PMThere’s a Drury Inn right across the street from the dome. Don’t know if they jack up their prices for home games, but that chain is usually pretty affordable. Laclede’s Landing, a restaurant and entertainment area is within easy walking distance to the dome. Anyone else have any ideas?
by jthomas 3:03 PMWhen do you believe we will hear about how this new stadium will be financed?
by Rams 3:04 PMDon’t know. I’m sure at some point.
by jthomas 3:04 PMGreg Robinson was a devastating run blocker in college, Why haven’t the Rams run to his side more ?
by EricRams 3:04 PMI think the Rams have run to his side more than a little in the past two games.
by jthomas 3:05 PMJim, you said you relocation is 55/45. Which is which? 55 stay or 45 stay?
by Lambs for Sale 3:05 PM45 to stay/55 to go.
by jthomas 3:05 PMThere are hotels within walking distance by Busch and on Washington Avenue
by Stan’s speech writer 3:06 PMMore advice for Ohio.
by jthomas 3:06 PMIs Foles the weak link on the offense? Horrible decision making execution could have cost them a victory against the Packers.
by bfowler 3:06 PMWell, that may have been the case vs. Green Bay. But he was one of their best players against Seattle and Arizona.
by jthomas 3:07 PMWhat will it take for you to raise your percentages to 55 stay? Is there anything that is in the works that has a large impact and if so, when is the magical date?
by Lambs for Sale 3:08 PMI’d still like to see the basics of that financing plan. Having the city approve its share of the financing plan would be a big help.
by jthomas 3:08 PMHow long does it typically take for an offensive lineman to mature (i.e. hit his stride) in the NFL? About 3 years?
by Brad W 3:09 PMYeah, I think you’re in the neighborhood there at 3 years.
by jthomas 3:09 PMWith the Browns up this week and Johnny football in deep do do again do you think there may be a chance we see Davis
by Up North 3:09 PMI guess Davis would be Cleveland’s second-string QB if Manziel was a pre-game inactive.
by jthomas 3:10 PMHey Jim, any explanation why offensive players on the Rams tend to just disappear after producing the previous season? For example, DRich, Stacy, Givens, Quick. And now to a lesser extent Bailey & Mason. Thanks
by STL45Fan 3:11 PMThat’s an interesting question. The circumstances of course are different with Quick because he’s coming off a pretty serious injury. But Richardson, and so far Stacy, haven’t been able to duplicate their early success in St. Louis at new outposts.
by jthomas 3:14 PMI am hoping we see the full Rams running attack Sunday. And I also hope to Cignetti adjust when the Browns stack the box. Please tell me Cig will be ready with a pass play or two that takes advantage of this. I think this might be our chance to score a bunch of points; a poor run defense plays right into Fish’s scheme.
by Healey 3:14 PMSo it would seem.
by jthomas 3:15 PMPatriots arguably ranked as the best team in the NFL right now. During their bye week they tinkered with their roster, always trying to improve. Rams did nothing and we aren’t even close to the Patriots. What gives? Snead has always been a little bit of a gambler, has Kroenke locked up the money box and is sitting on it in LA? Thou shalt not spend money on the “St. Louis” Rams?
by Uncle Leo 3:15 PMI don’t think tinkering with their roster is the reasons the Patriots are unbeaten. I think it has more to do with Mssrs. Brady and Belichick.
by jthomas 3:16 PMAaron Rodgers stood on the sidelines for three years, learning. Brady didn’t play the first year. The two best QBs in the NFL didn’t get shoved into the starting lineup as rookies. Why don’t teams take that approach anymore?
by Andy 3:17 PMWhen you draft a QB No. 1 or No. 2 overall, I think there’s great pressure to play them right away. Keep in mind, both the Packers and Patriots had established QBs when they drafted Rodgers and Brady. (I’m speaking of Favre and Bledsoe here.) Not every team has that luxury.
by jthomas 3:18 PMGood Day to you Jim, when the team travels on chartered flights do you fly on the same flight as they do, also stay at the same hotel. Also is that a time when you can have some good off the record conversations?
by Bob Hruby 3:19 PMOnly time in 21 seasons that I have traveled with the team is on the London trip a couple of years back. Usually stay at the team hotel, but not always. Sometimes that leads to some off-the-record conversations, but not as much as you’d think.
by jthomas 3:20 PMAny thought on Bradford’s performance so far this year? I’m amazed he hasn’t been hurt yet. Maybe the Eagles Oline is far better than the Rams.
by Dschwag 3:21 PMLast night (vs. Giants) was the first time I’d watched him for an extended period of time. He just doesn’t look totally comfortable to me. And I wonder if that system really is the best fit for him. He has taken some shots however, and gotten up. For a variety of reason, the Eagles had trouble last night getting into a rhythm offensively. You can’t blame him for one of his interceptions last night _ the WR inexplicably stopped running the route. But the first INT was a high throw, and the third he threw into traffic. Keep in mind, he hadn’t really played for a year and a half in the regular season. He just doesn’t look like he’s got his feel for the game back.
by jthomas 3:26 PMHi Jim, Great to see you again! Whats your take on Mannion? If Foles were to go down do you think they’d start Mannion?
by sphincter 3:26 PMNo, it would be Keenum.
by jthomas 3:26 PMIs Chris Long out this weekend? Longer than this weekend?
by Uncle Leo 3:26 PMNo official word yet. In fact, no official injury report until Weds. But my guess is that he misses this weekend and maybe another game or two beyond that.
by jthomas 3:27 PMJimbo! Thanks for stopping by, you know I always enjoy your visits. Do you think the Rams will be competing for the division this year?
by sphincter 3:27 PMI’ll put it this way: I think they are capable of competing for a playoff berth.
by jthomas 3:27 PMAssuming everything falls into place, do you think the NFL would risk the negative PR by encouraging St. Louis to invest millions of dollars developing a stadium plan which calls for using a large share of public funds, only to deny them? What precedent would that set for future projects (using public funds) in other cities?
by Stan’s speech writer 3:28 PMI don’t think that would be a very good precedent.
by jthomas 3:28 PMThe KC Chiefs are spiraling downward, Missouri Tigers having a hard time of it. Are the Rams the best football in Missouri right now?
by Uncle Leo 3:28 PMPerhaps. That’s not much of a consolation prize though, is it?
by jthomas 3:29 PMRams said they used the bye week to self scout. Do you think the offensive through this process learned that Bailey runs the best routes and has the best hands of all the receivers. Aneas Williams, Isaac, Torry and Marshal think so . Tavon and Gurley have been given the opportunity to make plays and have taken advantage of the opportunity. It is time for Bailey to get the majority of the snaps and see if he is another playmaker to add to another dimension to the offense. Do you agree.
by ramsfan 3:29 PMI’ve always liked Bailey. But actually, he’s playing more at this point of the season _ much more _ than he did in 2014 or ’13.
by jthomas 3:30 PMOK thanks now follow up question, with everything going on about pending move etc, has your job gotten tougher to do especially with getting access to team officials than in the years past, or they more stand offish
by Bob Hruby 3:30 PMThe higher you go on the organizational depth chart, the more stand-offish. So yeah, it has gotten tougher.
by jthomas 3:31 PMI think I am going to attend the Town Hall meeting next Tuesday.
by Stan Kroenke 3:31 PMGood. Stop by and say hi.
by jthomas 3:31 PMIn the G.Bay game it would have been nice to see some screen passes to slow the rush down, or a quick pass to one of the three serviceable TE’s the Rams have. In fact, its been missing from most all of the games. Can you ask the OC what he has been doing to slow the rush down?
by Deacon 75 3:32 PMActually, I think the screen game was pretty effective earlier in the season. But I agree with you; I would’ve have liked to have seen it used more against the Packers. The Rams did try the screens, or versions of the screen, a couple of times vs. Packers but without success.
by jthomas 3:33 PM6 weeks into the season, the Rams are in second place and 2-0 within the division, with the easy part of the schedule up ahead. Sounds great, doesn’t it?
by optimist 3:33 PMYes, and Santa Claus is coming to town!
by jthomas 3:34 PMJim, a few weeks ago this game looked like a W for us. Now I’m really thinking it might go the other way. Our O line shouldn’t improve with a back up right? Predict the score please.
by Cutman 3:34 PMRams 27, Browns 20.
by jthomas 3:34 PMYou stated you didn’t think Bradford is up to par yet, but in your opinion got the best of the QB swap, Rams or Eagles?
by Don 3:35 PMToo early to tell. We need at least one season, don’t you think?
by jthomas 3:35 PMJT if the nfl tells the rams to stay do you see a change in ownership there has been rumor of buyers for the rams
by conner 3:35 PMGiven his track record, it’s hard for me to see Kroenke as a seller.
by jthomas 3:36 PMI am a Season Ticket holder and registered for the Town Hall next week, if I get a “ticket” and am able to attend. What would you recommend I ask if I get a chance to ask a question? Is there anything that can be said or done at that event that means anything?
by Brett O. 3:36 PM1.) Will the NFL really follow the relocation guidelines? 2.) How can the league in their right minds say that Stan Kroenke has met the relocation guidelines. 3.) How can the league turn its back on a city/region willing to build a second stadium In 25 years _ doesn’t this set a terrible precedent? 4.) Should an NFL owner be allowed to move just because he wants to enrich himself? 5.) What makes the NFL think LA will support two teams, or even one? . . . .Those are a view for starters.
by jthomas 3:41 PMIn your opinion, if you were on the opposing team and you had one person on the Rams defense that you would not want to be tackled by, who would that be. Not who can hit you the hardest, but tackles the hardest.
by Bob Hruby 3:43 PMI’d still say Barron or McDonald.
by jthomas 3:44 PMI feel like this town hall meeting has as much chance of changing things as political bumper stickers change voting habits.
by Bob 3:46 PMYou’re probably right.
by jthomas 3:46 PMOk, do you think the NFL will not all the “REAL” tough questions to be asked?
by Tim 3:46 PMI don’t think they can censor the questioners.
by jthomas 3:48 PMWhat gives? You answer all of Bob Hruby’s questions, and none of mine! Do I need to include a wedding picture next to my name too?
by Jeff in LA 3:48 PMWhah! Whah! Whah! 15-yard penalty for whining.
by jthomas 3:49 PMIn the spirit of Halloween, what is jthomas1’s favorite scary flick?
by Jim Beam 3:49 PMI’m scared of scary movies. Still gotta be the Exorcist.
by jthomas 3:50 PMWhat is your over under for attendance at this weeks game? By attendance I mean actual butts in seats. Thanks JT
by Vern 3:50 PMI’m gonna say high 30s.
by jthomas 3:51 PMIn the Green Bay game, was there a designated player to track Rodgers? I thought he was pressured nicely but most of the time he got away.
by Rudy 3:51 PMYeah, but when Aaron Rodgers is Green Bay’s leading rusher, your defense has had a pretty good day.
by jthomas 3:52 PMAwesome answer, thanks!
by Jeff in LA 3:52 PMAre we happy now? 🙂
by jthomas 3:52 PMThey may not be able to sensor the questioners, but they can PLANT some FAVORABLE ones!
by Tim 3:52 PMOliver Stone, I didn’t know you took part in these chats. Welcome.
by jthomas 3:53 PMLast week Givens had 2 catches, 18 yards for the Ravens. Is it about what you expected the ex-Ram to produce? Seemed like a great opportunity for him.
by Uncle Leo 3:53 PMAs someone new to that team, obviously he’s still learning the offense. I do think it’s a very good opportunity for him.
by jthomas 3:54 PMIs it possible Manziel gets suspended before Sunday?
by Tom 3:54 PMDon’t think it’ll happen that fast.
by jthomas 3:55 PM“You can’t handle the truth!”
by Tim 3:55 PMOh boy. . . .
by jthomas 3:55 PMJT has the defense been giving the offence any sideways glances yet
by Up North 3:55 PMNot yet.
by jthomas 3:55 PMDo you get a sense the “league” has already determined who they’d like to lead the return to LA charge but don’t know how to sell it to the public yet?
by sphincter 3:55 PMNo. I think the dilemma is that they don’t see one “magical” solution at this point _ one that makes most everybody happy.
by jthomas 3:55 PMLet me try this again – LEAVE “most happy” aside!
Do you get a sense the “league” has already determined who they’d like to lead the return to LA charge but don’t know how to sell it to the public yet?
by sphincter 3:59 PMNo.
by jthomas 4:00 PMDoes Trey Watts get some touches this week?
by Uncle Leo 4:00 PMHe’s on the practice squad.
by jthomas 4:00 PMSent this to grubman yesterday using the link in the PD story. Just pasted it into the chat.
by BC 4:00 PMOK, that explains it.
by jthomas 4:00 PMDid I read that right…a new stadium could be built and Kroenke can choose to NOT play in it?
by Ramathorn 4:01 PMNo stadium will be built in St. Louis unless there is a team to play in it.
by jthomas 4:02 PMDo you think the “league” will grant a relocation to LA? within a year? regardless to who is not happy?
by sphincter 4:03 PMYes.
by jthomas 4:03 PMI think the only magical solution would be to expand to LA and London but that would deplete the talent pool that is already strained. Face it you can not come up with 32 decent starting QBs now
by Up North 4:03 PMMyself, I think expansion would be the best solution.
by jthomas 4:03 PMDuring the off week do the quarterbacks sharpen there game and look at film
by Marty 4:04 PMYes.
by jthomas 4:04 PMWhen Stan Kroenke looks at his St. Louis Rams income statement at the end of the year, is the last number red or black?
by Jim Beam 4:04 PMIt is impossible to lose money in the NFL. Bill Bidwill once bragged that he could make money without selling a single ticket (because of the TV dollars). Kroenke is just making fewer dollars in recent years than when he originally bought into the team.
by jthomas 4:06 PMKudos to James Lauranitis. He took a beating earlier in the year by some in this chat thread but has looked revitalized in the last few weeks. Jimbo – isn’t it great to see him blitzing up the middle!
by Brett O. 4:06 PMI like him as a blitzer.
by jthomas 4:06 PMTopic: Fisher, 10/13 … transcript
Rams Head Coach Jeff Fisher – 10/13/15
(Opening statement)
“What you try to accomplish here is to get young guys some valuable reps during the bye week that haven’t really gotten the reps. The backups need the reps. A lot of the starters need some reps here the first couple of days, so we take advantage of that. We even include the practice squad players with offense and defense, just to make sure that they’re ready at a moment’s notice. So, coaches got together and like I said, yesterday we looked at some things that we need to improve and we got a head start on it today. So, it was a modified practice, particularly because it’s Tuesday. But we’ll have two good sessions Wednesday and Thursday.”(On how the offensive line looked after G Rodger Saffold left the game with an injury)
“(G/T) Garrett (Reynolds) did fine. I mean, I said that on Monday. Garrett plugged right in. So, I was fine with the way he played. He was a settling factor and was cutting people downfield and finishing plays. Yeah, so I thought he was fine.”(On if they have started game planning for Cleveland or if this week is more self-scouting)
“We’re self-scouting this week. The coaches are ahead, but we’re just working on some things. Then, we had numerous mistakes on defense on the field, so we went through some of those just as a reminder, so they don’t come up. Then, we’re working on the first down stuff and polishing the run game. We rested (RB) Todd (Gurley) today for obvious reasons, like I said. But we have some technique things we need to work on, as far as special teams are concerned.”(On if he rested any other veteran players at practice today)
“Yes. Yeah, there were a number of them.”(On if he would list who he rested today)
“Probably not. I don’t have to put an injury report out until next Wednesday.”(On if he rested LB James Laurinaitis today)
“Yes, we rested James today.”(On if he rested TE Lance Kendricks today)
“Yes.”(On if he rested DE Robert Quinn today)
“No. Actually we did. I rested him a little bit. You guys took role out here didn’t you?”(On if he rested DT Michael Brockers today)
“He was also one that did not participate today, yes.”(On if he only evaluates one game back or if he takes this time to evaluate all of the games)
“Well, it’s a body of work is what we’re looking at. Are there trends? That’s what we’re looking at right now. The trends are that we’re not making enough first downs on offense. Defense, we’re getting the turnovers. Offense, number-wise, we’re not giving up sacks, per say, but we’re giving up way too many hits on the quarterback, so those are things that we’re working on now.”(On if he needs to just tweak something a little to remedy the situation)
“You just keep working and refining. On any given play you can find a minor mistake. Those are the things we’re trying to correct. And even on plays where you make big plays – there’s a big run, a (RB Todd) Gurley run for 50 yards – there’s a mistake there someplace you have to eliminate.”(On if there’s any update on G Rodger Saffold)
“Nothing, no.”(On if they’re not finished with the tests on Saffold)
“Correct.”(On how good he feels about where the team is)
“We’re not satisfied with the record by any means. I think we’ve shown improvement and I think that some of the things that we did at Lambeau were impressive. Weren’t impressive enough to win the game, but I think we’re showing improvement and that’s the most important thing.”(On the one intangible thing about this team that makes him go, ‘This is why we’re improving’)
“It’s a short memory and it’s confidence in each other. They have a short memory. You’ve got to put it behind you and go. Go onto the next thing.”


