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May 4, 2015 at 2:03 pm #23982AgamemnonParticipant
John Sandner posted on May 04, 2015 08:25
Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, joined Tim, Jim, and Doug on The Ryan Kelly Morning After to talk Rams Draft Grades, New Offensive Linemen, and Bud Sasser:
We’re reading all the Draft Grades online…
Mel Kiper, Jr gave the Rams a “C,” you gave the Rams a “C+”…
Well, it’s a pretty worthless exercise (Grading the Draft), but I just thought given all the circumstances, the Rams choosing Gurley was a luxury pick given what they already had at the running back position. Rob Havenstein was the 8th high-rated tackle in the draft. Unless they get some veterans, which I don’t even know who’s available right now, there’s going to be a lot of young guys on the O-line. I did think they rallied on Friday with the trade with Carolina which helped them secure two offensive linemen and a Quarterback in Sean Mannion.
You don’t think Rob Havenstein can step in right away?
You would think so. When you draft a guy in the second round, you expect him to step right in as a starter. We’ll see, unless Garrett Reynolds begins the year as the starting guard, then you are going to have two rookies with Brown and Havenstein on the right side.
Thoughts on Sean Mannion (QB, Oregon State)…Can he be the future?
I think so. He was part of that second tier of quarterbacks available this year. He’s a guy who played in a pro-style offense at Oregon State. They can get him going a lot quicker. I think it was a pretty good pick. Ironically enough, Mannion was the 89th pick in the draft, and now he’ll be learning behind a guy who was drafted 88th a few years back in Nick Foles.
Any solid finds for the Rams in the late rounds?
You have to like the Bud Sasser pick out of Mizzou. I also like the guy they chose in the 7th round, a pick they got in exchange for trading Zac Stacy to the Jets.
Does Sasser have a realistic shot of making the team?
I really think he does. It will probably be him or Chris Givens. He’s got good size. I think he’s got a real shot at it.
Can Kenny Britt build on his success from last season?
I dont know if this far along in his career if Britt can magically morph into a 70-80 catch guy. Last year for the first 5 or 6 games Britt looked like the preferred target. This squad doesn’t really have a #1 Wide Receiver, but look at what New England and Seattle did without any real clear cut number ones.
Any news on the stadium front?
No. I haven’t heard anything lately, but we do have a full league-wide meeting on May 18-19th in San Francisco. That meeting will be the last league-wide meeting until the fall. It’ll be interesting to see if anything comes out of that.
Segment 5 – Greg Cosell 5-04-15
Monday, May 04, 2015 12:05 PM
Cosell starts at about 11 minutes in.May 4, 2015 at 2:38 pm #23991znModeratorCosell… Rams did well, they had a plan and executed it well.
Gurley one of 3 best players in the draft…combination of Lynch and SJ, with more long speed than either
He is worth the wait even if the knee delays him. Quote: “Absolutely.” & Mason was his #1 back coming out last year. They will have “2 quality quality backs, with Gurley having a chance to be special.”
Havenstein: one of his favorite players in this draft, born to play right tackle, will play in the league 10 years, really really good prospect. He’s a little more athletic than you think, he doesn’t have left tackle traits,but he’s a REALLY good right tackle, … he’s a better prospect than Ricky Wagner (who also came out of Wisconsin).
Brown: he’s a guard.
Mannion: he thinks they like Mannion cause of the way they want to play. Mannion is a complementary guy. He’s Matt Schaub (at Schaub’s best presumably). A guy who can execute an offense that features the run game as the foundation and works off the play-action pass game.
Is it a passing league? That could change a bit because you’re not getting qbs in the NFL who can execute at that level.
Donal is a guard, needs an NFL weight room.
Sasser is intriguing….long, lanky, fluid, good catcher.
Rams WRs a work in progress…and they know that. If they can run effectively you will get a lot of predictable fronts to throw on.
Foles can be an efficient/effective qb in that context.
thinks they probably feel pretty good about their roster. Tremendous front 7, corner might need tinkering, they need more development than adding players.
Rams: physicality, speed. Can line up with anyone.
May 4, 2015 at 5:00 pm #24019wvParticipantReally pleased to hear Cossell’s comments
on Havenstein.…I really have a hard time even
listening to Frank Cusomano, btw.
I find him to be vapid. And vacuous.
Vacant, even.
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and my candle was nearly burnt out, when, by the glimmer of the half-extinguished light,
I saw the dull yellow eye of the creature open.”
Mary Shelley, FrankensteinMay 4, 2015 at 5:30 pm #24020AgamemnonParticipantMay 4, 2015 at 6:03 pm #24026znModeratorreally have a hard time even
listening to Frank CusomanoYeah I know, and you can hear Cosell basically just tolerating him.
May 4, 2015 at 6:21 pm #24035MackeyserModeratorDunno why I’m in the minority loving Wichmann, but I’m okay with that…
Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.
May 4, 2015 at 6:23 pm #24036wvParticipantYou are now the second person I know that used the word vapid.
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“[T]he truth is that fullness of soul can sometimes overflow in utter vapidity of language, for none of us can ever express the exact measure of his needs or his thoughts or his sorrows; and human speech is like a cracked kettle on which we tap crude rhythms for bears to dance to, while we long to make music that will melt the stars.”
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Origin of vapid
Classical Latin vapidus, stale, insipid, akin to vappa, stale wine: for Indo-European base see vaporMay 4, 2015 at 8:43 pm #24067znModeratorGreg Cosell Talks Rams Draft–Executed Plan ‘Extremely Well”
NFL Films’ Greg Cosell has worked is one of the more knowledgeable men when it comes to the X’s and O’s of football. Cosell, who’s a regular guest on The Hollywood Casino Press Box during the football season, joined Frank Cusumano on Monday to give his thoughts on the Rams’ draft picks.
What’s your overall impression of how you think the Rams did in the draft?
“I think they did very well and I can only of course base that on my evaluation of the players. But I think ultimately…The Rams had a plan, and I think they executed that plan extremely well. They want to be a certain kind of team. And they drafted to be that kind of team.”
Thoughts on their No. 1 pick, Todd Gurley?
“I loved Gurley, I thought he was one of the three best prospects in this draft. I think you can make an argument he’s a combination of Steven Jackson and Marshawn Lynch with more long speed.”
With Gurley coming off knee surgery, is he worth the wait even if he’s not at 100 percent this year?
“Absolutely. They have another really good back. I’m a big fan of Tre Mason, he was my No. 1 back coming out last year. Gurley is a better back than Tre Mason, but they have Tre Mason. Now, for an offense that wants to build around the run game, they will have two quality, quality backs with Gurley having a chance to be special.”
What do you think about the Rams’ second-round choce, OT Rob Havenstein?
“Havenstein was one of my favorite players in this draft based on film study. He is a guy born to play right tackle. When I finished studying him, to be honest with you, I said he’s going to play in the league as a 10-year starter. I think Havenstein is a really, really good prospect. He’s a little more athletic than you think. He doesn’t have necessarily…left-tackle traits. But he’s a really good right tackle. He’s a better prospect than (former Wisconsin right tackle) Ricky Wagner, and Wagner started at right tackle for Balimore.”
And what are your thoughts on third round choice, OT Jamon Brown?
“I think he projects as a guard. He likely transitions to the NFL as a guard prospect with his size and massive frame. Theoretically he could play right tackle as well, but Havenstein is a much better prospect at right tackle. Brown to me is more of a mauler than a quick-footed athlete, so he doesn’t have the traits you’d look for in an offensive tackle prospect. He’s a confined space player, and that makes him a guard.”
What do you think about third-round pick, quarterback Sean Mannion?
“I think (the Rams) like Mannion because of the way they want to play. Mannion is a complement. If Mannion reaches his NFL potential, he’s Matt Schaub when Matt Schaub was in Houston. A guy who can execute the offense that features the run game as its foundation and works off the playaction pass game. He may never get there, but that’s what he could be. Obviously the Rams believe he has that ability within the context of their offense. And that’s the way they’re building their offense. This is a running team. Everything is going to start with the run game.
- This reply was modified 9 years, 6 months ago by Agamemnon.
May 4, 2015 at 9:54 pm #24080InvaderRamModeratoryeah. at this point a lot of it is about development. that’s the best way they can catch up to seattle, san francisco, and arizona besides adding more talent. a lot of young players who aren’t close to reaching their potential.
contrast that to seattle and san francisco who seem to have reached a peak. not sure about arizona.
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