Question for anyone who does not like the deal

Well, at first I was against the deal, but that was pure emotion talking. Now that I’ve had a chance to sleep on it I’m warming up to it. Now they have a young QB with some upside who has played well and a bunch of cap space and a coupla’ more draft picks with which to address other needs. Sounds like an excellent trade from the Rams’ perspective.

So Fisher and Snead can stop worrying. I’m on board.

this trade sucks….shades of Jerome Bettis for Ernie Conwell…..

I agree with ZN, Bradford is a much better QB…… you don’t give up on a talent like Bradford……

Despite Foles decent numbers in Philly, there is a reason why Chip Kelly traded him for Sam. Either Foles is dickheard or Chip Kelly is looking for better QB, even if he has ACL history.

With this cap space, I hope the Rams don’t waste this cash on on draft picks like Tavon or Free Agents like Courtland F.

I take it for granted that the Rams tried to extend him, and couldn’t agree to anything.

There’s a lot of things here.

Bradford is better than Foles. And I think a lot better. I was looking forward to seeing him play with actual receivers and an OL. Of course – even now – at the end of Bradford’s contract – there is no certainty the Rams are going to have that. Which is why I didn’t want Bradford in the first place; I wanted Suh. I think it’s better to add a young QB to a good offense rather than start with a good QB and build around him. But I liked what I saw of Bradford, and think he is a good QB.

I don’t like the deal. Yet. If I had thought about a Bradford trade, I think I would have imagined a bit more in the deal. Yet the Rams reportedly had more than one team interested in Bradford, and they discussed this for weeks with the Eagles. This is what they could get. And it isn’t terrible. They got a guy who, at worst, is mediocre, and frankly that’s better than what a lot of teams have at the position. Both QBs have upside, and both are a gamble. Truly, in three years time, one of these teams could look brilliant and the other team look completely ridiculous for this trade, and right now, there is no certainty which team is which. We don’t know.

An interesting aspect of the deal is the salary cap clearance.

Apparently that mattered to the Rams. It BETTER have mattered. What are they going to do with that cap space? Because that is a significant part of this equation. What they do with that money actually has to be factored into this deal. Will it allow them to keep productive players they would lose otherwise? Are they going to buy a FA or two that they couldn’t have afforded without this?

So, I dunno. I think we have to see what they do with that cap space to get the whole picture, but my first reaction is – No. I wouldn’t have made this trade.

InvaderRam wrote:

bradford is only better than foles if he actually plays.

<P>my expectation is that bradford doesn’t even start the season.&

Bradford has started and played in 49 out 80 possible starts as a Ram…. he’s missed 39% of his possible games due to injury

Nick has started and played in 24 out 48 games….he’s missed 50% of his possible starts to due ability (Vick was starter) and or injury. As a starter, (when Vick was hurt) Nick has started 24 games out of 38 possible starts… which = 37% of the time as a starter he’s been injured too..

Foles is actually worse if HE ACTUALLY PLAYS!!!!!

I understand the trade from the standpoint of moving on from an injury-prone QB. With Sam, it’s been a number of things, and the knees were just the latest. Yes, Foles had an injury, too, but I wouldn’t put him in the “injury prone” category, yet.

I agree with zooey … this deal is also about what other players the Rams can acquire or keep now that they’ve dumped Bradford’s salary and opened cap room. I don’t think the Rams can go crazy in the FA market, because in the near future they’ll need cap room to sign a better QB, whether that’s Foles, a draft choice who proves himself, or some other big free agent. But, they certainly can fill more holes than if they kept Bradford at the same pay rate.

I guess I should root against Bradford staying healthy, since his availability will decide whether the Rams give Philly a draft choice next year. But, I will root for him in Philly. I hope he can stay healthy and finally have a good career.

I dunno man….I’ve been reading a lot about Foles. We are dealing with two glassdoll quarterbacks here. So in the end, it might not matter which one we have, except for the cap space.
That being said, I’m not so sure Bradford is better. Bradford has had some solid games, but Foles has had some spectacular games surpassing Bradford’s best. He made the pro-bowl as an alternate, something Bradford hasn’t sniffed. And even last year, there was chatter that he was playing hurt. And even if he wasn’t I have no problem with his performance b/c Philly had like 3 back up offensive lineman. And we all know what that can do to a quarterback (think Bulger).

Don’t get me wrong. I think Bradford was about to break out the last two years. His breakout performances still might not have reached Foles 2013 numbers. The man had 27 touchdowns, and 2 interceptions (that’s not a typo). he is the only quarterback in NFL history to have a perfect passer rating and 7 touchdowns in a single game.
In 2014 he started out bad, but had two excellent games right before he got hurt. This will be his fourth year in the league. He was young when all this happened.
I’m not so sure Bradford is better. In fact, I think Foles is a LOT better than any of us are giving him credit for.

It might not matter. He’s another glassdoll, just like Bradford. If he can stay healthy, we might just have something here.

• This reply was modified 9 years, 8 months ago by Herzog.
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Bradford and his agent were unwilling to re-do his deal. I believe based on a conversation with Mike Silver and some locals that the reality of that brought this trade about. The Rams, rightly I think were unwilling to bring Sam back under the old deal.

The question I have right now is if Sam signs a new lower deal with Philly is whether or not he just wanted out of St. Louis

InvaderRam wrote:

bradford is only better than foles if he actually plays.

my expectation is that bradford doesn’t even start the season.

He played in the pre-season last year with two months less recovery time than he has had this time. The only way he doesn’t start the season is if he gets hurt AGAIN. But maybe that’s what you meant.