Some videos, looking at the center position

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  • #28178
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    C: Dan Voltz, Wisconsin

    Wisconsin has earned a reputation in recent years for churning out NFL offensive linemen, and Dan Voltz could be the next Badgers lineman to find himself playing at the next level. Voltz is very strong at the point of attack, and while he lacks elite athleticism, Voltz has the mean streak and strength you want in a young center.


    99 Kwame Geathers
    6 ft 5 1/4 in 342 lb


    Had lis franc injury before that game

    Travis Frederick – all pro

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    #28179
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    Some videos, looking at the center position

    What do you take from that?

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    #28180
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    I couldn’t find anything on Barnes or Rhaney.

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    #28183
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    Some videos, looking at the center position

    What do you take from that?

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    If Jones is healthy, I want him as our center. I did a couple videos for comparison. The center Dallas drafted and is an all pro. One of the top centers in next years draft. I thought overall Jones compared just fine with them.

    Imo, the Rams are Ok with whoever wins the center battle. If Barnes was really special, they would have tendered him. They didn’t. Then they signed him to basically a minimum wage one year contract. Rhaney needs more experience, but maybe he is the best of the 3? Maybe they keep 3 centers?. We are at least ok at the center position.

    We had a chance to sign a vet FA center. We passed. We can draft one next year.

    The Rams had more than one chance to draft a center in this years draft. They didn’t.

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    #28253
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    I think and I think the Rams think we will be fine at the center position.

    I am certainly ready to add talent there, though. I wanted to draft Erving this year. In fact, I would have drafted him at #10. Although, I am fine with our drafting Gurley.

    If we really want a physically dominating center, we will probably have to go the route of drafting a physical player at another position, ?guard, and converting him to center. Last year maybe somebody like Cann? Or next year we convert Brown to center and draft or develop another player at RG. We know the Rams can draft guards. 😉

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    #28646
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    OG
    Barrett Jones

    Drafted By: Rams

    Round 4
    Pick 16
    Overall 113

    Draft Analysis:

    The long-armed Jones, a four-year starter at Alabama, won the Rimington Trophy, which is given to the best center in the country, in 2012. He projects as a long-time contributor at the NFL level.

    6’4″ Height
    34 1/8″ Arm Length
    306LBS. Weight
    10 1/4″ Hands

    Overview

    The key to Barrett Jones’ lengthy career at Alabama has been versatility. Alabama head coach Nick Saban has compared the four year starter to NFL great Bruce Matthews, who famously played all five offensive line positions in the NFL. Jones, too, played all five offensive line positions during his four years starting at Alabama. The medical redshirt was made necessary by an injury to his right shoulder three games into his first year on campus. He then started all 14 contests at right guard as a redshirt freshman for Nick Saban’s first BCS champion Tide squad in 2009. For his redshirt sophomore season, Jones earned third-team All-American honors from the Associated Press, as well as first-team All-SEC mention from league media for his play as a sophomore. He started 11 games that year, missing the final two regular season contests with a high ankle sprain. He earned third-team All-American honors from the Associated Press, as well as first-team All-SEC mention from league media for his play as a sophomore. He started 11 games that year, missing the final two regular season contests with a high ankle sprain.

    Jones made the rare switch from right guard to left tackle in 2011 to replace James Carpenter, a first-round pick of the Seattle Seahawks. He handled the transition so well (while also playing left guard, right tackle and center at times) for the Bowl Championship Series champions that he received the Outland Trophy as the nation’s best “interior lineman” as well as the SEC’s Jacob Blocking Trophy, given to the league’s best lineman. He also possesses the intelligence and high character NFL offensive line coaches desire in their prospects, finishing his degree in accounting in just three years, and won the Wuerffel Trophy for his play on the field and work in the academic and community service worlds.

    His final year on campus featured another move, this time to the center position. He capped the year off with another consensus selection to the All-American and All-SEC teams, as well as winning the Rimington Trophy (awarded to the nation’s top center), despite a Lisfranc injury limiting his mobility over the second half of the season.
    Analysis

    Strengths Possesses NFL size for an interior player. Solid pass protector whether playing inside or outside, plays with a wide base, mirrors and anchors effectively by keeping his feet moving and extends his arms to stay engaged. Good hip extension in the run game. Gets correct angle to create running lane when blocking on the move, can also create space inside by moving his man out of the hole using his hands and bulk. Able to seal the tackle and then work to linebackers close to the line on combo blocks. Can reach the 3-technique defensive tackle from the center spot. Fits on second-level blocks very well in the run game. Very good football and general intelligence. Great awareness of late blitzers and twist stunts, and he gives excellent effort to reach free rushers so his quarterback stays upright.

    Weaknesses Limited athlete who will be at his best on the inside at the next level. Tends to stop his feet and lunge at pass rushers on the edge. Top-heavy, upright runner on pulls without great foot speed. Gets to the second level well, but can struggle tracking and adjusting to moving targets. Quicker linebackers and defensive backs jump around his lunges if he is unable to get his hands on their numbers. Inconsistent firing out of his stance and staying low on short-yardage plays. Hand placement improved in his senior season, but he has soft hands with a limp punch. Doesn’t play with a mean streak. Can get complacent and will fight for initial position, but doesn’t finish blocks and allows his man to disengage too often. Prone to making his initial block and then ball-watching instead of finding a second target. Has a lengthy injury history (but shows the toughness to play through them) and will need to check out medically.
    NFL Comparison Daryn Colledge

    Bottom Line 2012 Rimington and 2011 Outland Trophy winner has played every spot on the line while helping the Tide win three BCS championships in the last four years. Has spent most of his time on the interior, which is where he projects best in the NFL. While not the strongest or most athletic lineman, Jones’ versatility, intelligence and high character should get him penciled in at guard or center for the next decade in the NFL.

    I still like Jones. I still like Pead. I still like Candidate and St. Clair. 😉

    Agamemnon

    #28647
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    I still like Jones. I still like Pead. I still like Candidate and St. Clair.

    I still like Les Josephson.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Josephson
    Les Josephson
    6’1″ 207 lbs.
    Los Angeles Rams

    He joined the backfield of Roman Gabriel as a rookie fullback/running back, and became a team leader for the next decade.

    Josephson was selected for the Pro Bowl in 1967, after having his best professional season with 800 rushing yards.[2] The next year he suffered a left calf injury in pre-season, while running through the stadium tunnel to the field.[3] After the cast for the injury was removed, he tore the Achilles tendon of the same leg while rehabilitating jumping rope and was placed on the injured reserve list.[4]

    Injuries slowed him down (broken jaw, ruptured Achilles tendon) but he contributed to the team for many years after his worst injuries. He retired in 1975 after he was waived during the preseason.[5] At the time. his 3,407 rushing yards were the third highest rushing total in franchise history.[6]
    Personal life

    After his career, he acted in a number of films and also served as a football film consultant.
    Films and television

    Technical consultant for Gus (1976)
    Nickelodeon as a bouncer
    Police Woman episode “Death Game” (1977)
    Superdome (1978TV) as Caretta
    Heaven Can Wait (1978) as Owens. Josephson also served as a technical consultant for the film.

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