sdram wrote:

14 Million per season can’t buy Sam’s happiness… apparently.

Never did a QB earn so much for producing so little.

The Rams should trade the #1 pick for him.

Well, I thought Williams was doing a good job, but I always admired Bud, so I’m okay with them bringing him back.

canadaram wrote:

Oh well. I’m still Team Wentz, but have become more accepting of Goff. I realize that good QBs come in various shapes and sizes, but I have to admit that I favour the size of both Wentz and Paxton Lynch. Goff’s slight frame will have me nervous for quite some time. I state this concern knowing that it was the bigger Wentz, not Goff, who missed time due to injury last year. The cannon arms of Wentz and Lynch also intrigue me.

Prior to the trade I’d been warming to the idea of the Rams drafting Lynch. So giving up so much to move up seems to carry so many obvious risks when holding still at 15 might have brought success. In the end there’s a good chance that Lynch will go before 15 anyway, but obviously the price to move up to get him would not have been as steep as the what the Rams paid to move to one. Of course, if the pundits are right and Goff will be ready to play sooner than either Lynch or Wentz I can see why the Rams would prefer Goff.

Anyway, over the coming weeks and months I may need people to reassure me lots and tell me that everything is going to be ok.

I was warm to Lynch as well.

But I have to say, Lynch’s wonderlic of 18 compared to Goff’s 34 and Wentz’s 40 has me decidedly cool on Lynch. We do not have to roam far afield in modern football to cite examples of QBs who had the physical set, but not the mental set, for learning playbooks.

It matters.

I hope it doesn’t happen to the next Rams’ QB, but look how many systems Bradford was asked to learn. I think each of his first four years he had to learn a new playbook, iirc. He was able to do it. Lynch probably not so much. That also extends to reading defenses and making adjustments. Lynch is not in the same category. He may be “football” smart, though. That kind of intelligence may actually exist as a separate thing from whatever wonderlic measures, I don’t know. But the Rams didn’t trade up to take Lynch, that’s for sure, so if the wonderlic thing doesn’t work for you, just look at the guy’s ‘stache. That will reassure you.

wv wrote:

Well he doesn’t seem to think either QB
is a slam-dunk.

I swear, there are so many different views
on these QBs this year. I dont remember
this much variance in the opinions on
a qb class.

w
v

Yeah, I hear ya on that. Just read Prisco, and he thinks Wentz has accuracy issues….

I wasn’t so sure what he was as a player, but I spent two days this week studying his tape, his All-22 tape. What I saw was a big, raw, athletic prospect with a good arm.

There were things about his game that concerned me though. His accuracy wasn’t great. There were throws behind receivers, in front of receivers and just off-target. That’s one of the major flaws for NFL passers who don’t make it in the league…Wentz also has a tendency to pre-determine where he is going with the football. In other words, he locks on. I hate that. It’s a curse for any quarterback, and a habit he has to break.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pete-prisco/25561354/why-trading-up-for-carson-wentz-could-be-a-huge-risk-for-the-eagles

joemad wrote:

Zooey wrote:

snowman wrote:

I think they take Goff. California QB for the LA market. Can you imagine the the LA fans getting excited about a QB from North Dakota? No way.

Nobody cares where the QB went to college. And if they did, southern california isn’t friendly to UC Berkeley. So Goff gets zero points for that no matter how you slice it.

Smart kids go to Cal and Cal has a history of solid pro QBs, From Craig Morton to Bartkowski, to Ferragamo and A-Rod…

I think people should care where a kid played QB in college……I think the college the QB attends does matter…. e.g., name one pro QB worth a damn from Ohio State…. or for that matter from N. Dakota…….. you can’t

I was saying that I doubt LA Rams fans are going to be more excited by Goff than Wentz just because Goff went to college in the state of California. To the extent that any Rams fans care about college football in the first place, they are likely – especially in the absence of pro ball in LA for 20 years – to be fans of USC or UCLA…and Cal is a rival team to those teams (though not much of one since Cal has never been much of a factor in the conference).

wv wrote:

“The skill-sets are different, the personalities are different, the backgrounds are different, the competition’s different,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said. “And that’s what makes it such a challenge.”
—————–

How are the ‘personalities’ different?

w
v

“According to Mike Mayock, Carson Wentz is a Dora the Explorer guy whereas Jared Goff is said to favor Hello Kitty.”

Well, I just don’t know what to do with stuff like this. One place I read a knock on Goff is lack of poise under pressure. Here somebody is saying he is excellent because he is used to playing behind a porous line, and will make plays against blitzes.

So. How am I supposed to know?

Agamemnon wrote:

This thread is entirely too reasonable. I blame Zooey.

Yes! Ag blames ME!!!!!!!

Isiah58 wrote:

I believe the QB they take, will be NFL-proficient at a minimum, and that gives us a chance. If you are going to hold out for NFL-elite, you may have a 20-30 year wait on your hands, and who is willing to wait that long?

You used this argument in an earlier thread. I don’t think anybody has said that the Rams shouldn’t trade up to #1 unless Andrew Luck is there. That’s a straw man. The dissenters, of whom I am one, say that moving up for a QB who poses the risk of being worthless is too expensive. Sanchez, Leinart, Leaf, the list goes on and on. The Rams traded 3 starters for a guy whose high water mark apparently is that he can win when other people carry the load.

Isiah58 wrote:

I think people who are suggesting that this is owner-dictated or a publicity stunt are being lazy or sensationalists.

Isiah 58

I agree with that.

These guys think they are a QB away from playing the big game, and I think so, too. Apparently they believe that guy is in this draft. That I’m not so sure of.

I don’t believe this has anything to do with the move to LA, and Kronkey didn’t become a billionaire by making short term business decisions. The Rams are not going to have any difficulty selling tickets for a long time.

I do believe they want a QB because this team needs a QB. I think they think that they have a playoff defense and a playoff rushing game. They do not have a playoff passing game.

I don’t believe that they are undecided on what QB they want. I don’t believe that for a second.

I do not rule out the possibility that this is a stunning poker play, and that the Rams just deliberately created panic in order to turn around and sell this pick for more than they paid for it. For all we know, the report that they really liked Cook is true, and they still like Cook, and think they can get him later. I don’t believe that’s what they are doing, but Les Snead is not a predictable GM.

Too steep a price, imo. I don’t like it.

It’s a huge roll of the dice.

zn wrote:

TSRF wrote:

and this belongs on the Rams Huddle because?

Agamemnon wrote:

Cheerleader tryouts.

It’s no use.

Some people just don’t understand football.

wv wrote:

zn wrote:

“There is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ’s Passion. The world gains much from their suffering,” was her reply to criticism,

It’s a catholic nun’s version of Snowpiercer.

I felt that way when Kaepernik fumbled on the one yard-line.

There was something beautiful in the 49er fans’ suffering.

The world gains much from such things.

w
v

I am with you there.

Man, I forgot about that game. I wonder if that game will linger for the 49er fans, the way that MNF game with the two long TDs did for Rams fans. Of course, that game was between two good teams whereas the Kap fumble didn’t really matter much, so I dunno.

But I should go find a recap of that game. Schaudenfreude is definitely a weakness of mine in sports.

nittany ram wrote:

And why should only humanoids win? Should the gelatinous blob-like beings of Alpha Centauri be excluded from a beauty contest simply because they are translucent so you can see their food being digested or because their sensory tendrils continuously exude a sulphurous gas that can clear a room like nobody’s business? Should that disqualify them from a contest that claims to represent the entire universe?

To be fair, they are really, really ugly.

Dude, you make it sound like the contest is based on the superficial qualities of beauty and attractiveness. I can’t believe you would be so shallow.