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February 19, 2015 at 7:51 pm in reply to: What American Sniper did is much, much worse than rewrite history #18721ZooeyModerator
Yeah, but
what about the cinematographyAnywayz — what interests ‘me’ is that Pa
likes it. Pa knows the politics and history
and he still likes it. So…people are different.
Thats all i got.w
vAnd I like and respect PA, so it wasn’t easy to say what I said. And I respect the fact that a lot of the military personnel are voluntarily putting their lives on the line for their countrymen. That’s a pretty big deal. It’s complicated, of course, like everything in life because some people are in the military because they have dead-end lives; some are there because they actually love the idea of violence (not many, I’m guessing, but mercenaries must, and I bet most of them are vets). Some are there for career training or free education afterwards. A lot of them are there because they want to defend some noble ideals (regardless of the cold politics that manipulate those ideals).
So I can imagine a film in which I WOULD feel compassion for Kyle, but it would have to be a narrative which evoked compassion for all the ragheads who became notches on his belt as well. Anything else is a lie, imo. A dangerous fucking lie. And as long as we go about telling stories that cast our team as noble heroes – tragic or otherwise – and other humans as vermin, we continue to foster a blind spot that allows this shit to continue.
It’s not okay.
This movie is not okay.
It isn’t “just a movie.” What happens in the media shapes our reality as a culture, and the stories we tell both reflect and direct our values.
February 19, 2015 at 7:32 pm in reply to: Snead on Total Access & other places, including press conference #18720ZooeyModeratorI like the way Snead does business. How refreshing is a quote like this:
“With Joe, that one, he was a starter, we’ve had some pretty serious dialogue with those guys,” Snead said. “A lot of times players once they get through, they get close, it’s good to test the market. And it’s not the worst thing for the team, either, because now no one is guessing. Hey, here’s the options. I think it makes the club, the player especially because he now knows reality versus make believe. And it helps the agent make the best decision.”
Thank god zygmunt and all those wankers are gone.
February 19, 2015 at 11:09 am in reply to: What American Sniper did is much, much worse than rewrite history #18698ZooeyModeratorI haven’t seen the movie, and never will. The trailer itself turned me off. Just seeing that it was directed by Eastwood was a turnoff because that suggested to me that it would be revisionist history wrapped up in glorified patriotism (which it turned out to be). I had no idea how BAD the revisionism was until I read this thread, but I can’t say I’m surprised.
But I wouldn’t have watched this film even if it had been set in Imaginaryland and directed by someone else.
The trailer itself painted a story line that disgusted me. It’s the story of a guy who is proud of killing hundreds of people, and the strain of performing those killings and of the explosions all around him gets to him, and he starts to buckle under the pressure.
So I’m being asked to feel all sorry for the poor guy because it’s so stressful to kill hundreds of people. I’m supposed to feel compassion for HIM!
Meanwhile, he has killed hundreds of people I am supposed to understand are worthless at best, but mostly just outright evil, and – really – the world is better off now that they’re dead.
Yeah, I don’t think so. I’m not going to waste my time on a movie that is going to reinforce racial stereotypes and teach me contempt for brown people, and try to make me feel sorry for their executioner.
And that this kind of storyline is swallowed without question by so many people in the world just makes me despair, frankly.
February 18, 2015 at 11:46 am in reply to: Grayson, Hundley, Petty, Carden etc. … the qbs this year #18636ZooeyModeratorI have to say that if the report on Hundley is accurate that he cannot ever keep his eyes downfield to follow progressions, then that’s a killer to me. I don’t like the chances of a guy learning to do that if he couldn’t ever do it in college. The NFL is bigger, faster, and more painful. That’s a guy who needed to do some Kill Kurt drills a long time ago, and I fear it’s too late now.
ZooeyModeratorOh, wow. I just re-oriented the antenna, and I went up from 18 stations to 77 stations. I’m getting all the San Francisco stations now, and I don’t know what all.
And I’m not opposed to drafting a WR, btw. Just saying.
ZooeyModeratorI am in Auburn.
Mostly Sacramento stations. I can sometimes pull in KQED, KRON, and KIXE (Redding). Back when we had analog, I could once in a while able to pull in KGO as well. I will see once I aim the antenna the right direction. I now have it aimed towards Plymouth (SE) instead of Sacramento (SW). So we will see what happens once I aim it properly.
ZooeyModeratorHook that coax up to this baby URL = http://www.channelmasterstore.com/CM_4228HD_p/cm-4228hd.htm
Thank you for returning the thread to its original topic: me.
I bought this one a year ago, and just hooked it up Sunday:
Mounted it on my chimney, pointed it in the wrong direction, and got great reception. Finished at midnight, just in time to discover I had a new station that was broadcasting an hour documentary on Ethan Hawke researching the role of Macbeth. Brilliant. I had forgotten that TV broadcasts more than just football.
Now sometime this week I’m going up there to aim the antenna in the right direction, all thanks to this great website that tells you what kind of antenna to buy, and where to aim it depending on your street address.
ZooeyModeratorI admit the thought has crossed my mind. I was just thinking about it this morning. There seems to be consensus that OL is fairly deep in this draft, but it’s somewhat light in top tier guys. So that first round pick could be used for just about anything. The two biggest needs, everyone knows, are QB and OL, but it doesn’t look like either makes sense at #10 (unless Scherff or someone really shoots up after the combine).
The Rams very well may go BPA there regardless of position like they did with Donald at #13 last year. Going into the draft last year, DT was not a Big Need.
I think LB or WR could be that position this year. On paper, not the biggest need, but a position that could use a boost if it could get it. As far as JL in particular, I’m thinking they ought to try to considering a replacement to develop there this year. If it doesn’t fall that way this year, I would think MLB would move up to a Need in 2016.
ZooeyModeratorIt means he’s fat, but he’s taking steps to take care of the problem.
The tilapia feast has only 485 calories, less than two snickers bars. That isn’t a meal. It’s a hearty snack. For a teenager.
ZooeyModeratorOuch.
Boy. You think about what the Rams got for the RGIII trade as opposed to one player from this draft. There are quite a few names on this list that there was strong sentiment for taking. And just imagine if the Rams had taken Blackmon or Richardson instead of making that trade. What a disaster.
ZooeyModeratorSigh
ZooeyModeratorRelocation might be an issue
for some free agents, i suppose.
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LaramWe were doing some promos for the combine and I had an opportunity to speak with this player.
It’s an issue, at least for him.
Makes complete sense.
Less likely to matter to someone without kids.
ZooeyModeratornittany ram wrote:
Sounds like JT is letting some of his personal feelings about Kroenke mingle with his professional lifeNot sure what you mean here?
I believe Nittany is suggesting that JT’s increasing disenchantment with Kroenke is coloring his analysis/opinions of Kroenke’s motives.
In my reading between the lines of JT’s comments over the past year, I am seeing a guy whose Happiness Level is sliding downhill, and Kroenke is at the heart of it. There has been a note of resentment and even personal injury in JT’s tone about Kroenke’s refusal to interview over the past year, and the Happy Face he has put on about the possibility of transferring to a High School football beat should the Rams move is not a very convincing one. It looks here like JT has taken a cheap shot at Kroenke to paint him as being cheap when, as Nittany points out, all evidence is to the contrary.
ZooeyModeratorThe team with the toughest schedule in the league is whoever is playing the Rams on any given week.
ZooeyModeratorNFC West.
4 of the top 7 hardest schedules last year.
ZooeyModeratorThere goes the last credible news anchor in America.
I guess I will have to rely on Jon Oliver for worthwhile coverage of the news, now.
February 10, 2015 at 7:26 pm in reply to: Ed Sabol NFL Films founder RIP …..NFL Films meant so much to me as a kid….. #18302ZooeyModeratorI grew up in Chico, and I think we got about 7 channels.
In the good old days, I could pick up 3 different stations that televised football, and they could televise whatever they wanted. The conferences weren’t split up by network. On a really good Sunday, all 3 stations would televise a double-header, and I would have up to 6 games to choose from, or switch between them. I almost always got the Rams.
Hey, Joemad. Don’t litter.
It makes the Indian chief cry.
(I looked for this on youtube, and can’t find it)
ZooeyModeratorZooey wrote:
I have always been at odds with the home town fans, and I guess I like it that way. Being the contrarian. You know.Yeah, that’s how I feel.
But Zooey, you grew up in So Cal, didn’t you?
No. I was born in Los Angeles, but moved to NoCal when I was 6-months old.
I became a Dodgers fan because one of my idiot brothers told me that they had a player who hit a lot of triples, and had “3-dog” written on his shoes (Willie Davis). That was enough for a 6-year old to become a Dodgers fan.
I became a Rams fan because I became sensitive to my mom saying that I liked or disliked certain things just because my idiot brothers did, and two of my idiot brothers are Cowboys fans. So I chose the Rams because they had the coolest helmets, and they were from the same place as the Dodgers, and I was born there, and it all seemed to add up in a nice, tidy package.
Later, I learned the benefits of contrariness.
February 10, 2015 at 3:08 pm in reply to: Ed Sabol NFL Films founder RIP …..NFL Films meant so much to me as a kid….. #18284ZooeyModeratorI don’t think one can exaggerate the significance of Sabol (and Facenda) in the popularity of the NFL.
February 10, 2015 at 3:00 pm in reply to: Dirt is turning in Inglewood; Stadium up next? … and other relocation stuff #18283ZooeyModeratorYeah. I can’t get too upset with the local effort right now. There’s movement on the stadium construction front. It looks doable in STL.
I wonder, if at the end of this, we don’t have the St. Louis Chargers or Raiders. I really think it could be either team that could decide they want a sure-thing new stadium for a few hundred million dollars, rather than continue to dick around in those cities.
I guess the Rams could stay here, and the Chargers or Raiders could move to Kroenke’s stadium. I just don’t see that happening, though. I am inclined to believe that SK wants to move HIS team to HIS stadium, and help build that entire Inglewood development. And, I just don’t see an owner swap, where SK owns the L.A. Chargers or Raiders. I guess it’s possible, since SK would control the lease on the stadium. It’s conceivable that it would be cheaper to build a new stadium than lease SK’s new stadium. And, the NFL likely would not want an owner of one NFL team leasing to another NFL team. Although, at the same time I write that, I remember that they’re sure ignoring the cross-ownership rule in place right now in order for SK to continue to own the Rams, so maybe those little details aren’t that important to NFL ownership.
It’s an interesting situation, for sure. And, it seems to evolve weekly.
I don’t see it (the Rams staying), either. If Kroenke is going to present the league with a crowning jewel, he’s going to want to wear the crown himself. I’m not 100% sure of the Rams moving to LA, but I am 100% sure of Kroenke moving to LA. Well, 99.9%, with a 0.1% chance of trading franchises with the Bowlen family.
I don’t think it would be a big issue for a team to lease a stadium from another owner. Most teams have a lease. So what does it matter? Any relocation and stadium lease gets passed by the Committee for Overseeing Opportunities to Make Fortunes in Los Angeles, or whatever it is. I can’t think of anything that would be an inherent conflict of interest in that kind of arrangement.
My intuition tells me that the Rams, and eventually the Raiders, end up back in LA, with St. Louis getting either the Chargers or the Jaguars.
It’s a strange world. I mean, if you look at the St. Louis stadium…that’s a nice looking stadium. Right on the River. It’s nice. It’s certainly better than what the Rams have right now, better than what the Chargers or Raiders have. That stadium is an upgrade for any of those teams.
It’s just that the LA project trumps it. It just does.
ZooeyModeratorI have always been at odds with the home town fans, and I guess I like it that way. Being the contrarian. You know.
February 10, 2015 at 2:19 pm in reply to: Insider Buzz: NFL Teams Want Sam Bradford, If Released, over Mariota & Winston #18280ZooeyModeratorWell, they are not letting him go. They may not trust him
but they are not letting him walk.Seems to me, Bradford has all the cards. I keep
hearing he has to take a pay cut to stay,
but i dont see what leverage the Rams have.w
vHe could take a pay cut as part of an extension. I mean…he’s not giving up the money, but he might defer it into the future. His incentive to do that is that an unproductive year this year leads to a greatly reduced offer for his second contract. He could be better off signing an extension now. Both sides may want to see how it goes during the season, though, and it may depend upon how badly the Rams feel they need to free up cap space.
February 10, 2015 at 1:23 am in reply to: Dirt is turning in Inglewood; Stadium up next? … and other relocation stuff #18260ZooeyModerator<strong class=”d4pbbc-bold”>NFL reminds teams that only the league can make relocation decisions
By Sam Farmer
That’s the right way to do it, for lots of reasons.
Passing through those hoops will increase the likelihood of getting 24 votes.
You know, the interesting thing here is the fact that St. Louis appears to be presenting a much stronger stadium proposal than Oakland or San Diego.
Still. Kroenke’s stadium is privately financed and owned, and has lots of attractive qualities. Moreover, if LA is going to be a two team city, one of those teams will be in the NFC, and one in the AFC. The Rams are the only NFC team in the running, and they have the deepest historical ties to the city, and it’s their owner who owns the land.
ZooeyModeratorRemember, it was just an example. I said, just one example. And personally I don’t think they caught Seattle napping…I think coverage units respect him that much. Plus of course he was 3rd in punt return yards in spite of playing just 8 games.
There are other examples from the season of him being used as a decoy on offense to set up a big play by someone else.
There’s the fact that when they had Bradford, he actually was a deep threat. And, with a qb who can throw those, will be again.
There are the runs that nearly broke so many times that you have to figure one will … and in the meanwhile he was averaging 6.2 a rush.
To me, all they need is to add in some other routes as a receiver when he becomes more proficient at that.
In fact his combined yards rushing, receiving, and returning in 2014 amounted to 857 in 8 games. Across 16 of course that’s 1714.
The 6.2 per rush is nice. I felt like he was becoming more proficient at that this season. I think a lot of people want a Big Play every time TA touches the ball, but I was satisfied with his carries this last season. I didn’t realize it was as high as 6.2, but I thought those play calls were getting an undeserved bad rap. I will take 5 or 6 per carry. I also did not know he was averaging over 100 per game combined yardage. I would have guessed a figure a lot lower than that.
I’d still like to see more out of him to justify the draft position. I’d like him to develop as a receiver, mostly. I would like him to be part of a mix on offense that makes the defense pick their poison. It will take growth from Bailey, Quick, and Austin to make that happen. And a QB would be nice.
ZooeyModeratorActually I have seen a lot of people wondering if Tavon was worth it. Here’s my 2 cents. I think he was.
Here’s an example of my view. It’s just an example. One reason the qb-lite Rams beat Seattle this year is because Tavon is the only Rams player in history that could get an entire special teams punt coverage unit to focus on him so heavily they didn’t even notice where the ball was really going. Name another player in Rams history they could have done that with.
When he is up to speed and knows the offense well enough to do more things, he will have even more value….IMO.
The answer for me is “Not so far.”
I think they could have done that punt return with Ellard, Irvin, Hakim, Bruce, heck…anybody. They caught Seattle napping. But…even if Austin is the only human on the planet who could have done that…so what? They will never be able to do that again. So you don’t trade up to get a guy because he is capable of running a fake punt return once. He’s got to do more than that. So far what he has done doesn’t amount to a lot.
He has had a few big plays – Yay! – and he’s been a change of pace guy. But so far I see him as less of a weapon than Amp Lee was, or Az was, neither of whom were drafted in the first round, let alone in the top ten.
I don’t write him off, though. He could come on in Year Three. But I don’t see him as a first round pick at this point, and if he were to retire from football tomorrow in order to join an ashram, I don’t think it would change the prognosis for the upcoming season.
ZooeyModeratorIf the Rams evaporate, I would be done. I would probably still watch the Super Bowl. But I wouldn’t have a team to follow. I wouldn’t start over with another team.
There is something about my team loyalty – an essence of my innocent childhood years – that remains an important part of sports for me. I think that is why the blue and whites are important to me.
Baseball kind of “jumped the shark” for me. I was a baseball fanatic growing up. It’s just that tradition in baseball is so rich, and the tradition eroded severely in a lot of ways, and I no longer felt like my favorite team had the same…je ne sais quois. I still root for the Dodgers, but I’m a fair weather fan now.
There are a few scenarios here that could push me beyond my…loyalty, for lack of a better word. If I get sickened by what happens in the next 2-3 years, I could lose it.
ZooeyModeratorI just wanna know if you would still follow the ________Rams
if they changed their colors to pink and black,
and wore Big Lebowski bathrobes.w
vWhat do you mean, “still?”
My passion for them would explode off the charts.
ZooeyModeratorI once got into a discussion about similar stuff with a St. Louis fan who wanted to change the team name and logo so they would be more St. Louis. I disagreed, and said their longterm identity meant more to me than any St. Louis identification. He said that was superficial, since it meant I was just loyal to laundry. I said that the name, logo, and uniform are more than just merely external things–they’re the signs and symbols of a history and tradition, and that history and tradition is part of what the team means to people. I knew he was a baseball Cards fan, so I said, what if the Cards changed their colors and their name and became (say) The Aces. Would that be an absolutely meaningless change in merely superficial, external things? I think he saw the point when it struck home–no, the Aces wearing black and red would not be the same as the Cards wearing red.
Well, we are headed into something that matters a great deal to a lot of us, and to our posting friends that we have bonded with over the past two decades. Some of us are fans of the _________ Rams. Some of us are fans of the St. Louis _________. I think some of us may be fans of the Los Angeles ________, a currently vacant spot that people have filled with the Rams. I think, though, that if the Chargers had moved to LA five years ago, we would have seen some Los Angeles fans vanish.
We are headed for changes, and we are all going to lose some friends one way or another. It’s too bad.
But at least we have the consolation that Kroenke will be worth more on paper no matter what.
ZooeyModeratorI think it is more likely that both the Rams and the Raiders end up in Los Angeles than that they trade teams, though there is a scenario in which trading teams makes sense. I agree with the speculation that Kroenke doesn’t care about the brand, and I think he would trade the Rams for the Raiders, take the Raiders to LA, and let Davis have the Rams in St. Louis.
The problem is that I really don’t think the St. Louis stadium is going to be put together inside of 12 months, and I wouldn’t think Davis is going to like the Ed any better than anyone else. I don’t know, though. Maybe the Ed is an upgrade over Oakland, and maybe St. Louis will be far enough along with the stadium project to promise him that he can have it.
I do not think trading teams is Kroenke’s plan. I personally believe – on the basis of nothing but circumstantial evidence – that Fisher’s experience with relocation was part of his appeal to Kroenke. I would be surprised to learn otherwise. I don’t think Kroenke even entertains the idea unless the NFL forces him to choose between that solution and “going rogue.” And I don’t think the NFL is going to do that because the Rams have tradition there, and it just makes sense. The Raiders make more sense than the Chargers.
Although there a many possibilities here, if I was laying the odds, I’d think the Rams in LA under Kroenke’s ownership is the most likely outcome. The Raiders may follow shortly. Kroenke gets to tell the NFL that – far from undermining other teams in worse stadium situations – he is actually helping to solve one of those problems.
Still. The Horror Lives. Like you, I will remain a Rams fan regardless of the city they call home, but if something terrible happens, I’m just not sure I can face it.
February 8, 2015 at 12:21 am in reply to: Kroenke meets with Peacock & other relocation stuff #18147ZooeyModeratorInteresting assessment of the 6 football stadium proposals in Los Angeles.
http://la.curbed.com/archives/2015/01/the_six_possible_plans_for_a_los_angeles_nfl_stadium.php#more
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