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ZooeyModeratorSometimes I think these guys don’t even know what they’re protesting. Just kinda going with whatever someone else is doing because it will elevate them to the class of rebel. I don’t know how much of this discussion is tolerated here, so I’ll just say that these numbnuts have no idea what oppression is. Women who get stoned to death for dating someone they think is cute? That’s oppression. Women prohibited from showing their faces? That’s oppression. Children brainwashed into martyring themselves? That’s oppression. African Americans led by an African American President? That’s not oppression. The Media tricking these guys into believing that there’s oppression? That’s the real crime.
You can’t judge their motives.
And wv is right, imo, that just because something else is worse, that doesn’t invalidate one’s complaint.
The basic complaint is that there is not justice and equality for all in this country. Statistically, blacks get rougher treatment than other groups (especially whites) in all facets of life, but particularly in the criminal justice system where we continue to see examples of non-threatening black men being killed by excessive police force with no admission that this is a problem. But it goes beyond that into more shakedowns, arrests, harsher sentencing, and all the rest of it. While we say “Never Forget” what we suffered on 9/11, we are always telling black people to “get over it” when it comes to nearly four hundred years of injustice.
ZooeyModeratorI can’t remember being this disgusted by a regular season game.
And given that I have followed the Rams since 1968, I have had plenty of opportunities.
I don’t even know what that was. As I said to my son, I have to see more games to know. But they were clearly just out-hustled. The 9ers won the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball with units that are projected to be significantly inferior to the Rams’. The best thing about the Rams last night was Hekker. The only other person who shouldn’t be ashamed of himself is Britt. (And since I have a feeling I will be calling for Sensabaugh’s scalp every week this season, I will do so now, although I don’t think he was any worse than most everyone else last night).
We have been discussing Fisher’s fate for a couple of years, and I have always maintained he was secure through the first season in LA no matter what, but that I thought serious “hot seat” talk could begin as early as this season. I think we are there.
If this is a 7-9 season, there is going to be some assembly of pitchforks and torches.
That was disgusting. If you are going to break out of the 7-9 bullshit, it starts with game one against the undertalented 49ers. They can NOT lose that game. And they didn’t just LOSE. They did not even show up and compete.
It is true that it is a long season, and it is true they could beat the Seahawks next week (the Seahawks didn’t look particularly good), but the stench of this game will last the rest of my life. There are some games one just never forgets, many of them brutal losses.
ZooeyModeratorWill Brinson ✔ @WillBrinson
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10:19 PM – 12 Sep 2016ZooeyModeratorBerman truly sucks.
And that judgement is aside from the fact that he is a 49er homer.
He just sucks as an announcer.
September 12, 2016 at 2:25 pm in reply to: media previews the SF game (including bay area views) #52709ZooeyModeratorI think it’s worth noting that the Los Angeles Rams have not lost a game since 1994, and haven’t lost at home in the coliseum since 1979. You would think that fact would get a little more media attention, but obviously the liberal media doesn’t want people to know the truth.
ZooeyModeratorOstriching?
Is Trump a hypocrite?
Yes or no.
Everyone can change their mind. What matters are ones subsequent actions.
So, no, Trump’s hypocrisy doesn’t bother you. You just spin it differently. Because he hasn’t “changed his mind.” He is playing both sides of those issues.
Not at all. I stand by what I wrote.
I am sure you do.
ZooeyModeratorOstriching?
Is Trump a hypocrite?
Yes or no.
Everyone can change their mind. What matters are ones subsequent actions.
So, no, Trump’s hypocrisy doesn’t bother you. You just spin it differently. Because he hasn’t “changed his mind.” He is playing both sides of those issues.
ZooeyModeratorbnw, each time by now that you use the rightie “aha hypocrisy” move, people here just simply read it as partisan gameplaying.
You can do it all you want, but I promise you, it will never be taken as anything more than that.
It’s just one of your go-to “be a partisan” moves.
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Partisan? No. The truth hurts so you ostrich about? Got it. Yet the hypocrisy remains. Protesting petroleum when you rely upon it to get to your protest is the height of hypocrisy. That I promise you.
Ostriching?
Is Trump a hypocrite?
Yes or no.
ZooeyModeratorStraw man my gluteus maximus. It is pure hypocrisy that should be exposed.
Clearly hypocrisy is very important to you.
Except when it involves Trump’s use of undocumented immigrants.
Or his denial of climate change while simultaneously trying to prepare for it at his golf course.
Or his attack on political contributions (except the ones he receives).
ZooeyModeratorI think an argument can be made the Rams are the team who is doing it right, and the Eagles are screwing it up.
Depends though. If Phil. is willing to take the hits on losses, then, they are giving their qb live action reps. The difference is, Phil can handle the losses because they’re rebuilding with a new head coach. Rams are in win-now mode. So it can be argued that each is doing the right thing given their different circumstances.
Though, Phil didn’t plan that. They didn’t plan on making this a rookie sacrifice season. They were initially going to play the veteran qb. Bridgewater changed that.
Yeah, sure, that would be the argument. But it leaves out the risk of Wentz getting mauled. I’m sure David Carr was confident. Where is he now? Honestly, how can the guy possibly be ready? So that’s part of the gamble Philadelphia is taking here.
There is no equivalent risk the Rams are taking. They are taking a conservative, long-term approach.
But the talking heads are taking that as evidence that Goff isn’t any good, that drafting him was a mistake, that the Rams gave up too much for him. That is just 24-hour news cycle BS, and all I’m saying is that I am surprised nobody has pointed that out. Considering how having a loud screaming match seems to be the staple food of television analysis, why hasn’t anyone come up with that argument to bring to table?
ZooeyModeratorIt doesn’t matter, Billy.
It isn’t a principled argument. As always, it’s an argument of convenience. It’s the same thing the right said about Al Gore. “Oh, global warming, huh? Then why do you have such a big utility bill for your house?”
It’s a straw man.
It’s a classic “change the subject” argument.
Instead of arguing about the issue – the environmental danger and cultural disregard of the pipeline (arguments the right will lose) – they change the subject to different ground where they feel they have the upper hand – in this case, the “purity” of the people making the argument.
This is standard arguing practice of the right, and it won’t make any difference how many times you point it out, and at what length. They change the subject as routinely as you change your socks.
They can’t say what they really think which is “Hey, this is how society makes progress, and I don’t get my drinking water from there, and I have no ancestors buried there, so it’s not my problem. Your loss is an acceptable price for me to pay. Fuck you.” That won’t go over well, so as usual, they just wrap the whole issue in a bunch of bullshit until most people are so confused, they change the channel to something easier to understand, like “The Apprentice.”
ZooeyModeratorVery nice.
We love him because he says what he means. A real straight-talker.
ZooeyModeratorThe Rams chose to select Jared Goff over Carson Wentz with the top pick in the draft.
Wentz will start for the Eagles, while Goff will be inactive for the opener.Not sure anyone would have predicted that scenario on draft day.
The Eagles brought in Chase Daniel as a high-priced backup for Sam Bradford. But when Bradford was traded to the Minnesota Vikings, Wentz was tabbed as the starter, despite playing in only one exhibition.
Development is part of the equation, but management execs think they can win with Wentz.
I am surprised that everybody just seems to assume (and Klein doesn’t assume this, btw, but I’m jumping off this response) that Goff being inactive and Wentz starting is evidence that the Rams made a bad decision of some kind.
Why isn’t anyone arguing that the Rams are the wise ones, and the Eagles are looking bad here? I mean…Wentz played part of ONE preseason game, and he’s the starter? I think an argument can be made the Rams are the team who is doing it right, and the Eagles are screwing it up.
ZooeyModeratorI can understand some 9er fans not respecting the Rams but what is it about their team that they like? Why do I see posts full of optimism and hope?
Do they not realize who and what they are and who and what they root for?
SF = Satan’s Friends. On a background of Hellfire Red.
ZooeyModeratorIt would be unfortunate if Gurley had a sophomore slump like Dickerson’s.
September 10, 2016 at 11:41 am in reply to: Hildabeast used an earpiece to get answers during live NBC TV Town Hall #52557ZooeyModeratorWow.
Next thing you know, she’s gonna use a teleprompter.
ZooeyModeratorI have a feeling wikileaks isn’t done, either.
But if they have something they want to detonate, it’s going to have to be crystal clear and devastating.
Because if it isn’t, there may not be time to process it. I mean…what’s up with the extra 15,000 emails they released a couple of weeks ago? I haven’t heard a peep since, and you know that by now every single one of them has been read multiple times by a pack of Hillary-Haters. And the FBI didn’t move like lightning on the first batch.
So I don’t know. I am waiting for another shoe to drop, but the odds on that get longer every day, imo.
As far as the Supreme Court goes, I want nine Thurgood Marshalls. And I’m not gonna get that wish.
ZooeyModeratorYeah, the arrow is up everywhere except the secondary, and I’m not sure about the LBs. I expect that if the Rams have a leak anywhere in the early going, it’s going to be back there. So far, Sensabaugh has been about as impressive as Finnegan in his second year. And while we know Gaines was good enough before his injury, he hasn’t shown it since coming back. And Agamemnon is probably the only person who knows who is starting at the 3rd LB and at FS. I don’t even know what’s happening there.
But everything else looks pretty good, and the injury bug has been quiet so far. So let’s go. No more 7-9 bullshit.
ZooeyModeratorRight. Exactly. I wondered about that every dynamic. I’m not only not surprised, I expected it.
And guess what?
The Rams are a team on the rise, a team with a shot at the playoffs, and naming Jared Goff the starter would have demoralized a bunch of players.
ZooeyModeratorI think the Rams win, and I don’t think it will be close, but I don’t think it will be a dominating blowout, either. I just think the Rams will win solidly. With some mistakes, with some stuff that would cost them against a better team. But the 9ers OL is shaky, and the Rams DL is very good. The Rams’ secondary is unproven, but Gabbert is below average, and so are the WRs. And we do know Johnson and McDonald are good, and Joyner isn’t bad. I could go on, but the point is that the Rams are superior. Not dominant. But superior to the 9ers.
ZooeyModeratorI remember Obama being touted as a messiah. ADHD progressives.
By democrats.
I don’t think you will find anybody on this board who even voted for him, let alone thought he was the messiah.
ZooeyModeratorYeah, I don’t think they will turn on him if he does the bare minimum. As you say, Billy, it’s sales.
So all they need is for Trump to sacrifice a few Mexicans in front of the camera, and stop some Syrians from coming into the country, and for FOX to tell everybody how great things are and how no attacks have happened on American soil. They won’t notice that their wages are still stagnant. They just need a bit of fertilizer for their prejudices, and they will be fine. Seriously, the numbers of illegal immigrants can actually GROW under Trump, but if the picture above the fold shows some being deported…I mean, these people are fact-impervious anyway. There is nothing new in that. What is it…something like half of them still believe that Obama was born in Kenya, and that Bush found WMD in Iraq. These are people who believe that Bush did a great job of protecting us from terrorism because there were no major attacks on America under his watch except 9/11 (which was the fault of the previous president, obviously). As long as Trump keeps saying bullshit, they will be content. Doesn’t matter what he actually does. Yeah, he’s going to screw them. And they will be glad.
ZooeyModeratorJust read that Shaun Hill has a higher career completion %, higher ypa, higher qb rating, and a better TD/INT ratio than Bradford.
Well they shoulda just asked a Rams fan.
We’ve seen them both. Of the 2, if we had to choose, which one would we want.
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Right.
And I don’t think it’s close.
ZooeyModeratorWhy not anger? Why not now? When you witness Hildabeast’s constant lying about willfully breaking the laws for which we little people get prison time, how is anger not justified?
Nobody said anger isn’t justified.
But just because anger is justifiable doesn’t mean all responses to it are.
ZooeyModeratorSteven A. Smith is out of his mind.
If Goff was ready to be the #2, he’d be ready to be the #1.
He’s not ready. When he is, he will leapfrog Mannion straight into starting. That’s how that works. It’s not a ladder.
ZooeyModeratorJust read that Shaun Hill has a higher career completion %, higher ypa, higher qb rating, and a better TD/INT ratio than Bradford.
ZooeyModeratorBarring an arrest, or a blow-job, its crooked-hillary.
I dont even think the debates will matter.w
vThe aftermath.
What happens with all his supporters after the election?
I think in the five stages of grief, they don’t get past the first two: denial, then anger.
All those Hillary Haters are just gonna have coronary explosions, and David Duke and his buddies….
I dunno. Either way, things are gonna get even uglier in this here greatest country on earth.
ZooeyModerator“Trump won the nomination by being the cruelest, most balls-out build-a-wall hard-liner. Now he was talking like Jeb Bush on immigration and Bill Clinton on NAFTA. What was the point of all that craziness and rancor and destruction? Who needs Donald Trump playing Jeb Bush, especially since the actual Jeb Bush might have had a chance of beating Hillary Clinton?”
It seems like a bad idea to me. They may be trying to change his image in order to save seats in the senate, house, and so on, but it seems like a losing strategy to me. His supporters may have their enthusiasm dampened. I dunno, though.
ZooeyModeratorJared Goff suffering from Rams’ poor judgment, uncomfortable environment
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So…the point of that article is that the Rams are screwing things up because, back at the draft, Fisher said Goff would probably start “sooner than later,” and they are now being “second-guessed again for sending a boatload of draft picks to Tennessee,” whereas the Eagles shrewdly managed trading a boatload of draft picks because they said Wentz would enter camp as the 3rd-stringer.
I think if I was going to go to the effort of writing a op-ed, I would have chosen a different thesis to argue. That article was a waste of time.
ZooeyModeratorSo WHO is the back-up center?
Rhaney.
Right, so why didn’t anybody say that? I was wondering where Rhaney was the entire 5 episodes. They put all the attention on the 3rd-string guy right from the beginning. I don’t understand why we got so much Austin Hill, either. I was wanting to stab myself in the eyes at the end of the final episode.
They picked guys to follow who were unlikely to make the team from the very beginning, and added a few guys – McRoberts, Joyner, the guy with the girl in his room, Hayes – when they made some kind of story splash. I would have preferred that they had followed Robinson, Quick, and Ogletree for their stories, Donald and Gurley for their potential star power. We got nothing on Brockers, Johnson, Cunningham, the TEs. I understand they can’t cover everybody, but why the hell did we spend 5 episodes on a bunch of guys who aren’t Rams any longer? Kush was a Peronality, but the other guys were drips.
And Seau must have no measurable personality at all, since we got his whole extended family frequently, but nothing of him except highlights from games.
I do appreciate Fisher a bit more. I admire that he handled every single cut personally, and all of his interactions seemed to be from a place of wise, experienced, and compassionate authority. He came across as trustworthy and respectable; firm, but fair.
Goff – still comes across as a kid. At least he doesn’t come across as an Entitled, Spoiled Kid, like Manziel. He seems solid. But there was also something kind of empty about him. Everything he said was what he was supposed to say. It’s like he worked harder on studying how to script saying all the right things than he did on hanging onto the football. He did not come across as “bright.” No interesting jokes or insights, or anything like that. Which isn’t a bad thing. I’m just saying. I mean…his idol, Joe Montana had no discernible personality, either.
I dunno. Not a fan of Hard Knocks, and as the Rams’ have used up their 15 minutes of fame on the series, I will never have to watch another episode of the show. I had to watch it. It was the Rams. But I am glad it was only 5 episodes and not the entire season.
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