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ZooeyModeratorYes, well, if Welker makes two catches a game, he will double the number of third downs the Rams convert per game.
ZooeyModeratorThey have a shot at the playoffs. But they most likely aren’t going to make them, and at this point, I don’t much care anymore. The offense dooms this team.
My problem is I’m not sure how much better it gets.
I will just be watching, hoping to see the offense start converting some 3rd downs, and attack the middle of the field. If I just see that development, I’m fine.
If I don’t, I enter the off-season praying for a QB.
ZooeyModeratorFoles isn’t average.
At least not by any statistical measurement.
And my eyeballs confirm the Below Average designation that he has earned statistically.
His accuracy is inconsistent. He sometimes fails to see an open receiver. And he doesn’t make plays.
And I don’t see him under inordinate pressure. A more mature OL will help, though.
ZooeyModeratorI think it all just boils down to the Rams second string D battled the vikes for almost 5 quarters and fell 3pts. short.The wind was huge
Yeah, the thought has passed through my mind that with Quinn, Long, McDonald, and Havenstein, the Rams may very well have won.
But they didn’t. And they didn’t.
ZooeyModeratorI cannot think of a player off the top of my head less entitled to call someone else out for playing dirty than Rodney Harrison.
ZooeyModeratorI agree with wv. It was not a dirty hit, but he could have made a greater effort to avoid the contact. It would have actually required contorting to avoid the contact, but he could have done it. It looked mostly like a natural hit. He could have contorted to avoid it, and he could have laid into him and knocked him into Tuesday.
20 years ago it wouldn’t have been a penalty at all. It was not egregious.
ZooeyModeratorShit.
November 8, 2015 at 10:18 am in reply to: catch percentage, drops, and other bad things from the dark side #33737ZooeyModeratorI don’t think it’s just Foles
Nor do I think it’s just the receivers.
I think a lot of it is the Baby OL.
My bet is there’s certain things they’re not even trying with this OL, until it stabilizes..My own view is its almost all the OLine.
I think the OLine has affected
Foles and the OC/Fisher.Cook is cook. I dont see much difference.
Kendricks is hurt.
Tavon looks better.Britt is the only one that seems ‘off’
somehow. Maybe he’s injured.w
vI don’t see how a young OL means it’s harder to run slants, or mid-range stuff over the middle. They run post patterns. I get that a young OL could mean they don’t run the Run and Shoot, and throw it all the time, but the run/pass balance is conservative.
Quick is also “off.”
ZooeyModeratorFisher said the Rams have not heard back from NFL operations “to my knowledge” about possible solutions to visiting players slipping on the concrete flooring in front of the stands.
Okay, the defense is good, and all that, but what about this story? I don’t understand why they are appealing to the NFL in the first place. Put down some heavy rubber mats. Or extend the turf.
ZooeyModeratorThe most embarrassing part of that commercial is the voiceover.
ZooeyModeratorHuzzah!
November 6, 2015 at 12:14 am in reply to: Prediction thread – Minnesota Vikings – out of doors #33613ZooeyModeratorI’ve been watching all the Vikings games reading their boards and some stuff that sticks out. Vikes fans in general regard both defenses equal,giving the DL some respect and with it a near constant “their secondary doesn’t scare me’ and generally claiming superiority in that area. I have no idea why, other than they have not seen a Rams game this season I mean we did pick off Rodgers twice ,Palmer ,Wilson etc. our cb’s have 4 picks theirs have a big fat goose egg and it’s not like they’ve played Rodgers at home either. They don’t seem to understand or maybe it’s accept that red zone defense and points allowed are different stats. The one thing they do have is they can come back because they’ve had to for the last 3 games at least. Of course this is just fans talking so it all means very little.My feeling is these fans have a new understanding of tough defense after this game. https://vimeo.com/10815350
Vikings fans, in my experience, are not the most well-informed and objective fans one finds on the net. I have not seen the Vikings play in a long time, so I am not familiar with them, but they have played are far softer schedule than the Rams have. One would think – if the defenses were equal – that the Vikings would be ranked significantly higher statistically than the Rams.
None of that means much, though. Let’s play ball.
November 5, 2015 at 7:08 pm in reply to: Prediction thread – Minnesota Vikings – out of doors #33596ZooeyModeratorThe loss did not sit well with me, especially since it came from the Vikings….
Plus I was younger, and still believed in the power of prayer. So the Vikings not only stole the games, they stole my belief in a benevolent deity, and set me on the pathway to reckless despair that you see me on today.
So your blaming Jesus for the playoff
losses to the Vikings?Its a well-known fact Jesus is a Raider fan,
so I dont think he’d even play dice
with a Viking-Ram game.w
vThat is such BS. You must have been raised a Catholic.
Listen, if God is all-loving, all-knowing, and all-powerful, he has to be a Rams fan. Therefore I have run circles around you logically.
November 5, 2015 at 1:59 pm in reply to: Prediction thread – Minnesota Vikings – out of doors #33576ZooeyModeratorThat loss didn’t bother me so much because the Rams had rebounded to 10-6 after going 6-9 in the previous strike-shortened season. Plus it looked like the Rams *finally* had an elite passer and a solid defense under Fritz Shurmer. The future looked bright and I was looking forward to all the playoff victories to come.
Sigh…
Me, too. The loss did not sit well with me, especially since it came from the Vikings, but the expectations were MUCH higher in the 70s, and there was always an element of terrible mischance that made the losses feel like the victory was stolen from the Rams in the 70s.
Plus I was younger, and still believed in the power of prayer. So the Vikings not only stole the games, they stole my belief in a benevolent deity, and set me on the pathway to reckless despair that you see me on today.
ZooeyModeratorOkay, that’s stupid.
I just lost interest in going to the HOF.
That’s like hanging the winner of the Girl Scouts art contest in the Louvre.
ZooeyModeratornew coordinator (who happens to be a rookie coordinator)
new system
quality of receivers
green olineplus as you say, new qb.
I am not sure the receivers are so bad, though. Cook, Kendricks, Britt, and Quick all played better last year. That means it’s at least in them to play at least that well this year. There’s something going on with chemistry, being in sync, and so on. Same thing happened last year at first with the defense.
That’s all true, and yet…they’ve been consistently bad. They’ve had camp, pre-season, and 7 games, and they aren’t even sputtering to life like a cold engine.
ZooeyModeratorHappy Happy Birthday!
November 5, 2015 at 9:33 am in reply to: Prediction thread – Minnesota Vikings – out of doors #33555ZooeyModerator????? This is the game that the Vikes look back on and…??????
I thought it was too obvious to state.
This is the game that the Vikings look back on and wonder why they even got out of bed in the morning.
ZooeyModeratorNot really, but maybe a little like Bo Jackson.
w
vPeople all over the place, in the media and on fan boards, are having trouble comparing TG to anyone. To me that’s because he has some very unique qualities that we’re having some trouble (and fun) putting our (collective) finger on.
One key attribute: it;s a combo of things. He has very good lower body strength BUT is also very smooth in his lower body movements, to the point where sometimes you don’t notice he actually did anything. It is all very subtle. In fact we don’t really get the right camera angles to see the real effect IMO. This is combined with very good vision and “contact balance.” So the effect of him running on his big plays is that it just looks like the defenders didn’t tackle him right or took the wrong angle etc. He doesn’t run over guys, it’s like he runs through defenders who LOOK like they aren’t playing it right. Meanwhile of course it’s not the defenders it’s him.
I think I agree with everything here. I hadn’t thought of Bo Jackson. That may be the best straight comparison I’ve considered, but then I agree with what zn wrote here, and I don’t think Jackson had that quality. You can just see Gurley do this…thing…where he just makes guys miss, and it certainly isn’t the juking and spinning thing like Sanders, or the high-stepping like Payton. It’s like he jukes while continuing straight. He’s there, but he isn’t. It’s like he’s all greased up, or something. He just squirts through guys, as opposed to bowling them over. The guys is just a fish that nobody can get a good grip on. He will get 3 yards, then run into a wall, then suddenly…thwwwwt…he squirts forward and picks up 5 more yards in a dive.
I don’t know.
I do know that I love watching this guy play football, and I am glad glad glad he is on the Rams.
ZooeyModeratorWell, I do not value Foles highly. Didn’t see anything in pre-season that made me a fan, and he has shown me no progress through the first half of the season. I just see a lot of 3 yard passes, with an occasional deep throw, and a lot of inaccuracy. I’d like to see more over the middle, too, and as both CoachO and Bernie point out, Quick and Britt seem like guys who could run slants.
But the WRs aren’t winning me over, either. It’s not like I see lots of wide open guys Foles isn’t throwing to, and today Foles seemed to drop a deep pass right into Britt’s bread basket that he just dropped. They didn’t show a replay, so I dunno, but that looked to be all on Britt.
But these WRs and Foles aren’t even doing a MEDIOCRE job.
This offense has got to get its act together, and RISE TO MEDIOCRITY!!!
November 1, 2015 at 10:21 pm in reply to: Prediction thread – Minnesota Vikings – out of doors #33358ZooeyModeratorI don’t think that game will “tell us” anything. If they win, they could still lose against top teams like the Bengals. If they lose, they could still upset a top team like the Bengals.
I agree with that.
What a win probably WOULD tell us, though, is that the Rams are playing with more consistency.
But…I tell ya…Foles got about 125 yards passing against one of the crappier teams (plus 66 yards on a 0 yard pass to Austin).
The Rams have a couple of playmakers (Austin, Gurley), an emerging OL, and nothing else. Britt, Bailey, and Quick combined for 1 reception for 5 yards. And Cook made monthly guest appearance. I don’t understand it, but this offense is going to the end of the Rams season sooner or later.
ZooeyModeratorI never said “Playoffs or bums” myself
That’s just me playfully running around with a premise. The danger of that is coming across as a judge of others’s expectations, though the truth is, I wasn’t aiming at anything more heavy than a nice chuckle. Either way, let a thousand flowers bloom.
A loss today would be disappointing. And I think they have a winning streak in them. But, my own hesitation is, with a junior varsity OL, it’s hard to be consistent.
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No, I know you were using Silly Putty to sculpt those perspectives. I didn’t see your post as a serious attempt at the Evolution of Rams’ Fans Perspectives in the 21st Century.
Anyway. We all know the Rams are capable of losing to an inferior team.
And we all hope they don’t. And we all would welcome a win streak that a better-than-average team should put together.
ZooeyModeratorI never said “Playoffs or bums” myself. I have said they should be in the playoff hunt in December or they’re bums. Or something along those lines. I think it’s time they played with the post-season on the line.
And it seems to me that they oughta win today, next week over the Vikes, and the Bears after that. They Oughta.
ZooeyModeratorMine is not to question why.
If he is awful, that’s good enough for me.
October 28, 2015 at 11:08 pm in reply to: 101, 10/28 – Jamie Dukes says, superbowl for Rams if Foles gets hot #33159ZooeyModerator“Super Bowl oriented.”
I’m not sure exactly what that means, but it sounds like a compliment.
ZooeyModeratorReleased Dunbar?
Well, I guess the Rams are pretty happy with Barron.
ZooeyModeratorI am pleased to see multiple reports praising Austin’s blocking.
ZooeyModeratorProbowlers…Gurley, Donald, Quinn, Jenkins and maybe Hekker.
Gurley and Donald will be All-Pros
What? No love for Napoleon Kaufman?
What kind of Raiders fan are you?
October 26, 2015 at 10:50 pm in reply to: stuff from the net on Browns game including a must-read sideline report #33039ZooeyModeratorGurley.
I cannot believe what I am reading, and what I am seeing about this guy. Honestly, if you were going to sketch a guy up in Sims Football, this would be your running back.
ZooeyModeratorSure, it seems reasonable to expect incremental improvement from the passing game.
Except that I haven’t seen any.
I don’t swim in a stats-filled pool, so I can’t back up my impressions with data, but I would say that I think the most impressive Foles performance was the first game against Seattle.
As I recall, the Rams put together 3 80-yard drives in that game. And, iirc, we haven’t seen anything to match that since.
In fact, the Rams flat out suck.
I don’t know what else to conclude from the fact that the Rams are #1, or near the top, in first down yardage, and at, or near, the bottom in 3rd down conversion, and that they just don’t accomplish sustained drives. I mean, remove the Seattle game, and where are the Rams statistically on offense?
They SUCK, people. The offense SUCKS. You give the Rams a middle-of-the-pack defense, and they are 0-6 right now. Maybe 1-5.
So, yeah, Foles sometimes makes some great downfield throws. But for every one of those, he throws the ball over the head or behind a receiver 10 – 15 yards away from him 3 times.
Yeah, and maybe Quick gets better, and maybe Foles gets better, but I’m not seeing the OL as being the big problem here, and it sure as hell isn’t Gurley.
The Rams can’t pass. They can’t. They can’t make first downs, they can’t control the clock, and they scare nobody in the passing game.
They can contend. Jared Cook will make a big play now and then between his pulled-short routes, and phantom blocks, and Foles will hit a guy once in a while. But they aren’t going to win when it matters because they can’t.
Having said that, I am enjoying the season, and I look forward to December, and I hope they get a playoff game.
But this team needs a QB and a WR.
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