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ZooeyModeratorDore’s rant on Chris Hayes was pretty excellent.
Yeah. Man. It ain’t hard to connect the dots. It’s right in front of your face.
And speaking of the NYT, this is the first sentence of an article I opened today. I turned away, but came back to it, and made it almost halfway through before I couldn’t take another word:
“The sharp left turn in the Democratic Party and the rise of progressive presidential candidates are unnerving moderate Democrats who increasingly fear that the party could fritter away its chances of beating President Trump in 2020 by careening over a liberal cliff.”
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ZooeyModeratorI got it!
I got it today.
I messaged Sands again last week to remind her, and she has sent me Oakley’s copy of the script. I am just fucking beside myself. And I don’t even know how good it is…ya know. But I have it!
ZooeyModeratorI agree on Maher.
ZooeyModeratorThat’s what I was saying a week ago, too.
But – I know times have changed – but Nixon committed fewer crimes than Trump. This guy is filthy on every front. And it’s in a fishbowl. And the problem for the System is that Not Doing Anything will also tear the thing apart. I think the only path to stability is going to see Trump pay a price.
As hard as it is to imagine a president going to trial…I just cannot see an alternative at this point except something that openly terminates the illusion of democracy. And I think the illusion of democracy is too valuable to the powers that be, and has too many people committed to the System.
ZooeyModeratorEven when FOX gets it right, they get it wrong.
ZooeyModeratorI am surprised I haven’t seen any comments or memes on Cohen’s attorneys.
Do these guys look perfect for a Scorcese film, or what?

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ZooeyModeratorI cannot wrap my head around human trafficking. Have never been able to understand it. The level of complete sociopathy necessary to do that just exceeds my imagination.
ZooeyModeratorThe Stupid on that channel is truly something.
It has become satire of itself. And it’s really…I mean…people believe this stuff. They really believe it.
I ran into someone on the net the other day who believes that Barack is gay, and Michelle is a man, and their two kids are not really their kids. Seriously.
This network is dangerous.
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ZooeyModeratorThe only reason to do that is that you think Bernie is Too Radical, and you want Bernie Lite because you fear Bernie is too radical. Or you like the Radical, but think somebody else is a better Bernie than Bernie is.
You missed one… people think he’s too old…. and he kind of is…. 77
and that’s too bad
I think his age is only going to matter to people who don’t want him to win, anyway. People who support Sanders can see he is in pretty good shape. I think 80 is the new 70, anyway, personally. My dad is 90, and he’s still going strong.
Meanwhile…this is from Daily Kos, apparently. I would think they must be having shit fits over there. I may have to go peek in on them to see how they are handling the news.

ZooeyModeratorAgree about the Hegelian dialect thing too. Though I wonder how that will impact 2020, exactly. I knew, for instance, before the 2016 election, that it was madness to run another Clinton, a dynasty candidate, the insider’s insider, when the electorate was in such an anti-establishment mood. Well, that is, anti-establishment for Americans, which usually just means voting for yet another elite/member of the ruling class, etc. So will they be pining for one of the old guard to make them feel comfortable again after the madness of Trump?
That struck me as the other dialectical outcome, but I am all but ruling that out (pending a response to Biden, but…) because the one pulse right now that is beating the most strongly in this country is complete irritation with the awareness that the government is not representing us. That transcends party affiliation, and that is where the greatest animus is. I think we are in a pivot point in the US, and that pivot is between total authoritarianism and a jerk back towards democracy. I don’t see Status Quo of Politicians Pretending to be Of The People as an outcome. I really don’t. I think Biden would get a ton of money and media backing and fizzle. I don’t think the choice is between Trump and What We Had. It’s a choice between Trump and What People Want.
That’s the way I see it.
And I would suggest that that’s the way the Democrat Party sees it too, or else we wouldn’t have 203 Democrats suddenly pretending to care about people.
ZooeyModeratorPrognosticating…
Bernie disrupted Democrats. There are 204 candidates running now, and they are all taking planks from Bernie.
But…there’s Bernie.
So…why vote for an Imitation Bernie when there’s Bernie?
The only reason to do that is that you think Bernie is Too Radical, and you want Bernie Lite because you fear Bernie is too radical. Or you like the Radical, but think somebody else is a better Bernie than Bernie is.
Of the Bernie Lite candidates, Warren has the best credentials. That is to say that every other candidate has moved Left from their own historical record. Warren is who she is. Bernie Lite. Everyone else is pretending to be Warren, basically. Warren is who she is…she’s never faked it. She is a liberal Democrat. Booker, Harris, Gillebrand, and the other 199 candidates are all pretending to be liberal Democrats, but all of them have voting records that prove they aren’t, or just “saw the light.” So there is Bernie, and everybody competing to compete against Bernie. And of all of those, I think Warren has the most street cred.
But she isn’t going to light a fire under enough people, though. She’s professorial…which I don’t care about, but other people do. She will fire up a bunch of women who still have their knickers in a twist because they think Bernie and the Male Bastards killed off St. Hillary, but that just isn’t going to be enough, imo. She will contend, but the passionate, get-off-the-butt, door-to-door passion is still behind Bernie. It just is.
Harris is formidable. I’d hire her as my personal lawyer in a second. She’s smart, and tough as nails. But her record is compromised, and she and Warren will split the women vote for long enough for Sanders to take the lead in delegates.
Biden can screw it all up if he enters, but I think the energy of the Democrat party has moved away from the Old Answers, and Biden epitomizes that. His opportunity was 2016, and he sat it out.
Bernie already did this. He learned from his previous run, and he just doesn’t get drawn into the bullshit stuff. He stays on message. And they aren’t going to be able to dig up anything on him that is new. He already weathered the only semi-scandal they could find about his wife, and I just don’t think dirt will stick to him. They can attack him on Age, but he could kick Trump’s ass in a one-on-one athletic match of any kind, so there just isn’t anything there that is going to stick, I don’t think.
I think he has to be the favorite for the nomination in spite of the pissed-off-Hillary types. There will be noise. There will be ugliness. But he has the passion and the numbers, I believe.
So I think Bernie Sanders…who is SO far to the Left that he is practically Dwight Eisenhower…is the likely nominee.
One other thing. I have noticed a Hegelian dialectic with presidents. Seems to me Americans tend to vote for a President who is strong where the previous president was weak. Trump’s biggest apparent weakness is he is completely full of shit. I think everybody sees that. Bernie has authenticity up the wazoo. He is constitutionally unable to lie. He has been consistent for 40 years, or more. He’s just honest. If nothing else. And I think that’s where voters will ultimate lean.
ZooeyModeratorYeah, I agree with all that. I took it for granted, in fact. The suit was about collusion and lost wages, and that is a separate issue.
I was sort of responding to the same argument, or the imaginary argument that his protests amounted to nothing in the end. I think they mattered. I think he did some good.
And I think the NFL colluded, and he should get compensated for that, and he did.
ZooeyModeratorKaepernick, through his actions, at the very least got…
the issue of social injustice into the public conversation, and
the NFL to donate $89 million to social justice causes
ZooeyModeratorBecause the Lakers are the only team in the NBA that actually matters.
Dude, Paula Abdul is no longer a cheerleader, Jack Nicholson and Diane Cannon no longer have their butts in the Forum….
Dr Buss is dead and so are the Lakers.. they won’t even make the 8th seed this year……
without searching DUCK DUCK GO, Does anyone even know the name of the current Laker Head Coach? I’ll give you a clue, he was a Warrior assistant and his dad won a ring as a back up center vs Paula Abdul;’s showtime team……
BTW I do hope the Lakers make the 8th seed so the Warriors can sweep them…….. these are not Chris Mullens nor Sleepy Floyd’s Warrior teams….
Listen. Your bitterness and envy have left your soul a mere cinder. I see it all the time.
You know, deep in that ashpit of a heart, that you will not live to see the Warriors hang their 16th Championship banner in the rafters – as I have done with the Lakers.
ZooeyModeratorBecause the Lakers are the only team in the NBA that actually matters.
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ZooeyModeratorAny society that has homeless people and billionaires is a fucked up society.
The fact that that is unclear to most Americans is a reflection of the depth of the fucked-up-ness of society.
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vYeah. Seems to me you have hit on a dividing line there.
Some folks is gonna line up on the side of defending that as somehow good and proper.
And other folks is gonna say, WTF?
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ZooeyModeratorWhat I don’t understand is why – if Gurley was well enough for 10 or 12 touches – why isn’t he good for 20? I hope it’s not his meniscus, as someone suggested quite plausibly.
I think it’s a different game if Kupp is in there. He is the Rams’ Edelman…that guy who just gets open somehow. He would have – at least – moved the chains a couple of times to keep the D off the field, and improve the field position game.
One other thing…and I haven’t seen anybody reference this yet, and I thought it was a big momoment – I would have taken one of those penalties with 2:25 left in the game to push NE out of FG range. I don’t get it. I mean…from right there where it happened, declining the penalty meant NE lost a down, and has a 50-yd FG to make. But they have 2 downs to improve on that position – which they did. Now the Rams are down 2 scores with 1:12 to play. Seems to me a no-brainer to try to push them back and stop them and getting the ball back with – say – a minute to play down by one score.
There are a bazillion articles out there. I’m sure somebody has addressed this, but I don’t understand that call at all.
ZooeyModeratorI don’t know how to tell what’s on the coach. The Rams OL got overwhelmed all game long, and that’s that.
And Cooks lost two TD passes.
If you had told me the Patriots would score only 13 points before the game, I would have taken that happily. The Rams defense really played well.
ZooeyModeratorI got spanakopita, dolmas, buffalo wings, and a pasta salad I made.
ZooeyModeratorhttps://www.therams.com/video/road-to-the-super-bowl
i don’t know of this has been posted yet. it’s narrated by dick vermeil.
another thought. donald’s gonna have to go off on sunday. just absolutely go off and make brady’s life miserable all day. just be in his face constantly.
that would be a great ending to a great season with aaron winning superbowl mvp. the best player in football leading the rams to one last victory.
I Love You.
ZooeyModeratorThis time tomorrow, the Rams will be up by 20 points.
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