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  • in reply to: Imagine a world with no official-narratives…. #89331
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    What if there was no dominating elite class telling the public how they were meant to interpret events and situations?

    If that happened then there would be a narrative dominated by whatever power group in (this idealized fiction called) “the public” believed.

    I mean even “elite v. the public” is a narrative fiction.

    There’s more than one power base, and more than one narrative going on at a time. For example, her narrative includes a naive group that believes the Russia story, and the folks I identify with see that one differently–that there’s a factional left that for reasons that escape me dismiss the Russia issue. Meanwhile we (the people who share this view) are not part of this passive spoonfed mainstream identified “public.”

    Change the power structure and you don’t eliminate narratives, you just change them.

    There’s no such thing as NOT being in ideology. But you can make a case that there are better, ie. more democratic and more humane and more environmentally aware etc. ideological visions which are defensible.

    If you want to see how all this works, compare two different narrative frames: (#1) the elite impose narratives on a passive public and so escaping that is escaping narratives, and in the meanwhile “I” (ie. whoever is saying this) am neither the ruling or elite nor the public it dupes but instead reside where there’s More Truth; AND (#2) there are always narratives, some are better than others, and it’s not as simple as an elite dominating a passive public, at least in part because “the public” is not this simple homogeneous thing.

    That’s 2 different and opposing narratives. One of which says it isn’t one. (And of course there’s more than just this 2, just focusing to make a point.)

    Neither one of which originates with a ruling elite.

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    Top 10 Todd Gurley plays | 2017 season

    I dunno. Gurley just signed the biggest contract for a running back, ever. Therefore by definition he can’t be that good.

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    10 Observations from Day 9 of Training Camp

    Myles Simmons

    https://www.therams.com/news/10-observations-from-day-9-of-training-camp

    1) The Rams were not in pads for the first time since the fourth day of training camp. Coming off Thursday’s game, L.A. got back to business on a lighter note. Being back in Southern California, it was considerably less humid for Saturday’s session than it was throughout the time in Baltimore.
    2) Los Angeles began with a special teams walk thru, then separated by field for both offensive and defensive walk thrus. This is one of the first times L.A. has done a walk thru to start a public practice, which also made it one of the first times inside linebacker Mark Barron has participated in a session. Head coach Sean McVay has previously said that Barron receives the walk-thru reps beside signal-caller Cory Littleton, while Ramik Wilson takes the practice reps.

    3) During offensive individual drills, the Rams used multiple quarterbacks to have each skill player catch a pass in the rhythm and timing of the play. All the running backs, wideouts, and tight ends were involved, as were all four quarterbacks. At one point, punter Johnny Hekker was even involved when the Rams used three wideouts, a tight end, and a running back as eligible receivers. Hekker does have to keep his fake-punt arm ready, after all.
    4) The Rams quarterbacks, wide receivers, and cornerbacks also went through one-on-one drills. Notably from the period…
    Wide receivers Brandin Cooks and Robert Woods began the session with completions on a comeback route and a fly route down the right sideline, respectively.
    Cornerback Troy Hill did a nice job to break up a pass in the middle of the field between quarterback Jared Goff and wideout Cooper Kupp. The Eastern Washington product tried to shake Hill with a move in the middle of the field, but the cornerback stayed with Kupp nicely.
    Later, though, Kupp got Hill back by shaking him with a nice move to catch a pass in the middle of the field. He drew some “ooos” from the crowd with that one.

    5) In 11-on-11 — with the first-team offense competing against the first-team defense — Goff made solid completions to Cooks and Kupp. The signal-caller connected with Cooks on the first pass of the period, hitting him on the left side of the field. Then Goff hit Kupp on the left side, making the completion through a tight window just out of safety Lamarcus Joyner’s reach.
    6) Joyner, however, would get his during a later period. On another pass intended for Kupp, Joyner undercut the wideout’s route on the defense’s right and picked off the pass with a leaping interception. His defensive teammates were pumped on the sideline.
    7) Later in 11-on-11, tight end Tyler Higbee made a particularly impressive catch. The play may have been a sack in real life, but Goff was able to get a red-zone pass off to Higbee. The tight end showed off his vertical, secured the catch, then got two feet in at the back line of the end zone for a score.

    8) With the offense backed up to nearly its own goal line in a move-the-ball drill, Goff got the unit down the field quickly with consecutive completions to Woods and wide receiver Mike Thomas. Both receptions came on deep crossing routes.
    9) Kupp made the last catch of practice for the fist-team offense, snagging a low pass over the middle. Not a surprise when it comes from him, but he did have a few nice catches on Saturday.
    10) At the end of practice, McVay pulled the team together and was fairly animated in the huddle. He would tell reporters that at the time, he was explaining to players why he wasn’t quite pleased with the way practice unfolded.
    “I think all the guys would agree, we’ve got to have better urgency from the start,” McVay said. “That’s just the bottom line. We can say what we want about when we got back, but however you want to cut it, we’ve got to be better than that.”

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    Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
    Sean McVay wasn’t happy with practice. He had players take a knee and the end and went into a lengthy chat full of flying arm gestures. “We don’t get enough opportunities to come out here and practice, and we’ve got to maximize every single one,” he told reporters.

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    Gary Klein@LATimesklein
    Sam Shields on his 1st game since 2016 concussion: “I was kind of nervous at first, but as soon as I got my feet in the grass and everything was moving fast it was like second nature. I definitely had fun and definitely blessed to be back.”

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    Michael Lombardi@mlombardiNFL
    With K Mack wanting more than 20 million per year (sources tell me he actually wants 22) a deal with the trading team must happen first–going to be costly on both ends, trade and contract.

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    Gary Klein@LATimesklein
    Sean McVay said there has been “increased dialogue” with Aaron Donald’s reps and is optimistic situation will be resolved.

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    Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
    Also #Rams Sean McVay on Aaron Donald situation: “there’s increased dialoge. There’s more…we feel positive about the direction that these things are going. I think there’s a level of urgency that’s being displayed from us.”

    More McVay on Donald: “I know that they know how much we value him and appreciate Aaron. Hopefullu we’ll see some things changed on that front sooner tyhan later. But it’s still kind of in the same boat.”Vincent Bonsignore added,

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    from The five players still holding out and the dynamics of each situation
    Here’s what’s likely in store for Aaron Donald, Khalil Mack, Earl Thomas, Roquan Smith and Le’Veon Bell

    Joel Corry (former sports agent, NFL contracts and salary cap expert for CBS sports)

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-the-five-players-still-holding-out-and-the-dynamics-of-each-situation/

    Holdout dynamics

    A holdout is ultimately a test of both sides’ resolve. Once a player misses the beginning of training camp, there usually isn’t much dialogue between a player’s agent and the team early on when there is a contract impasse. Teams typically approach a holdout as if the player is injured, look for replacements at his position either internally or from available free agents and evaluate how the team performs with him absent.
    Most holdouts don’t mind missing the daily grind of training camp but as the regular season gets closer, a player may start having second thoughts about his decision. If meaningful dialogue on a new contract resumes, it may not be until the middle of the preseason. There were hardly any conversations with the Buccaneers during most of McCardell’s holdout because both sides were firmly entrenched in their positions.
    Savvy teams will refrain from talking to the media about the player, besides an obligatory statement about being unwilling to publicly comment on a player who isn’t in training camp or that the player’s contributions are valued and welcome him returning to the team when he is ready to honor his contract. In most cases, fans don’t take a player’s side in a contract dispute with a team. The public has difficulty relating to a player being unhappy with what is a lucrative contract in their eyes or rejecting a substantial offer. Unusual circumstances are required for public sentiment to be with the player.
    A major obstacle a player must overcome is a team’s concern about establishing a precedent of giving into a player’s demands for a new contract through a holdout. Although teams should be able to easily make distinctions based on each player’s particular circumstances, they don’t want to send a signal to the other team members that they could get rewarded by holding the team hostage. This is especially the case when there is a new owner, or new general manager or new head coach with a hands-off owner. Along those lines, some teams have a philosophy that meaningful dialogue about a new contract won’t occur while the player is a holdout.
    Prominent players at impact positions have the best chance of success provided they remain patient and give the impression that they are willing to continue their absence into the regular season. Once a player decides to end an unsuccessful holdout, some teams will reduce the fines accumulated as a gesture of goodwill, especially with a player who is one of the most important players on the team or a veteran that commands a lot of respect among his teammates. The Rams waived Donald’s training-camp fines, didn’t recover his signing bonus they were entitled to collect and opted against voiding his contract guarantees with last year’s holdout.
    The longer a holdout drags on, the more of a distraction it can become with coaches and teammates being constantly asked about it by the media before and after games and practices. It also helps to be on playoff contenders/teams with Super Bowl aspirations or teams where the head coach or general manager is on the hot seat. Pressure may be put on ownership to do whatever it takes to get the player back into the fold as the regular season approaches. Smith’s holdout was aided by Jacksonville’s first-team offense struggling to move the football without him (16 punts in 17 offensive possessions).

    Aaron Donald, DL, Rams

    Chief Operating Officer Kevin Demoff has characterized the contract standoff the Rams are having with Donald for a second-straight year as a fundamental disagreement on value. General manager Les Snead painted a rosier picture Wednesday when talking to a group of reporters at the team’s hotel in Baltimore, where the Rams play their first preseason game on Thursday. He said the parties are in the same “zip code.”
    The Rams are reportedly willing to make Donald the NFL’s highest-paid defensive player (which is currently Broncos linebacker Von Miller at $19,083,333 per year and $70 million in overall guarantees) and a charter member of the $20 million-per-year non-quarterback club. It is my understanding that at least restoring the traditional financial relationship between the highest-paid quarterback and non-quarterback, which existed under the current CBA before salaries for passers dramatically increased over the last year, is important to Donald’s camp. A deal averaging more than $23 million per year with $85 million in guarantees where $65 million to $70 million fully guaranteed at signing would recreate the balance.
    Snead’s comments are encouraging for a long-term resolution before the Rams’ regular-season opener against the Raiders on Sept. 10. The Rams’ Super Bowl aspirations would be likely diminished without the reigning NFL Defensive Player of the Year’s services.
    The Rams won the battle in a contest of wills when Donald ended his lengthy holdout last year without getting a new contract. If history repeats itself because talks breakdown where Donald plays out his rookie contract, he won’t have to worry about not qualifying for unrestricted free agency. From a practical standpoint, the Rams would use a franchise tag on Donald in lieu of a giving him a first-round restricted free agent of tender of $7,581,200 at a 10 percent of this year’s salary. The first-round pick compensation for Donald as a restricted free agent wouldn’t be enough to deter another team from signing a player of his magnitude to an offer sheet with a player-friendly structure and money that could make the Rams uncomfortable. The same risks wouldn’t exist with a non-exclusive franchise tag requiring two first-round picks as compensation for an unmatched offer sheet.

    Khalil Mack, DE, Raiders

    NFL Media’s Ian Rapoport reported during his recent visit to Oakland’s training camp that there haven’t been contract discussions since February and the Raiders don’t currently have an offer on the table for their best player. General manager Reggie McKenzie refused to negotiate with left tackle Donald Penn last year while he was holding out. Penn signed a new deal shortly after ending his holdout. The lack of any negotiations for such an extended period of time don’t suggest that Oakland would be willing to take a similar approach with 2016’s NFL Defensive Player of the Year if he reported to camp.
    Mack’s agent, Joel Segal, has also demonstrated an ability to play hardball. He navigated running back Chris Johnson through a successful holdout in 2011 that lasted until the Titans gave his client a four-year, $53.975 million contract extension in early September.
    Mack ending his holdout before Donald would be surprising since a new Donald deal should serve as a baseline once negotiations eventually resume. It’s fair to wonder whether the Raiders will be able to afford Mack, provided a Donald deal brings more clarity to the marketplace since a more concerted effort hasn’t been made to sign him and Mark Davis is reportedly among the NFL’s most cash-poor team owners. If the intel I received on Gruden still holds true, he probably wouldn’t relish having to deal with a disgruntled Mack playing on his fifth-year option.
    Mack’s situation could have some residual effects. Segal also represents 2015 fourth-overall pick Amari Cooper. A bounce-back season by Cooper will put Segal in position to demand top wide receiver money for him. Segal is also 2016 first-round pick Karl Joseph’s agent.

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    Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
    No pads at all for #Rams today as they ease back into things off the Baltimore trip. They landed back at LAX yesterday at 4 am(ish) then immediately bused back to Irvine. So there might be some cobwebs to get rid of.

    Long conversation between #Rams coach Sean McVay and Sean Mannion on sideline after Mannion threw a ball away far out of bounds in an 11 on 11 drill. McVay was using big video board replay to point something out to Mannion on opposite side of field from direction he threw

    Raggedy practice by #Rams folllowed by a little animated talk from Sean McVay to players

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    in reply to: socialism, FDR, progressivism, etc #89283
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    Then what is Democratic Socialism as pronounced by Bernie Sanders ? Seriously, I don’t really understand clearly what it is.

    It’s a mixed economy system like scandanavia where you still have a strong private sector but you complement it with a public sector that handles things that should not be for profit, are handled worse when they are for profit, and which accord with basic social and human needs.

    So for example you would have public not private health insurance (which saves everyone including employers huge amounts of money and is more efficient) but at the same time the actual medical industry is private.

    It would also restrict the private sector from dominating or even attempting to dominate areas of public interest such as elections, education, and environmental policy.

    It’s opposed to privatizing everything for profit and in the USA is a direct opponent of neoliberal economics and handing EVERYTHING over to big money interests.

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    Lindsey Thiry, ESPN
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    Rams backup quarterback Sean Mannion, who is in the final season of his contract, struggled last night against the Ravens, completing 3-of-13 passes for 16 yards, with an interception, in the first half. He also was sacked twice. Sean McVay said Friday that a “Combination of a lot of tough things” contributed to Mannion’s performance. “Certainly Sean missed some throws and some things that are uncharacteristic of him, but the protection – there was a couple of times he didn’t really have a chance to let things develop,” McVay said. “He had a couple of drops, so I think it was kind of a perfect storm of really a lot of things didn’t work out in his favor.” McVay has not revealed if starters will play on Saturday against the Raiders. Regardless, it’s likely Mannion will once again play a significant amount.

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    Michael Lombardi@mlombardiNFL
    With K Mack wanting more than 20 million per year (sources tell me he actually wants 22) a deal with the trading team must happen first–going to be costly on both ends, trade and contract.

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    Andrew Siciliano@AndrewSiciliano
    Jets may actually have a QB surplus. Times are changing.

    The @NFL backup QB trade market at the end of August will be very, very interesting.

    Myles Simmons@MylesASimmons
    While McVay said he “wouldn’t go that far yet,” he noted it’s not entirely out of the realm of possibility that some key #LARams starters may not see playing time for the duration of the preseason.

    Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
    Really interested in seeing more of #Rams rookie tackle Joseph Noteboom. He’s showed all camp there’s something “there” there. And he looked poised and effective last night in pass and run blocking. All three of the Rams rookie linemen flashed last night as they have in camp.

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    Steve Palazzolo@PFF_Steve
    I believe we are closing in on an era in which the majority of NFL teams are feeling good about their QB situation, and there’s not much separation between QB8 and QB25 in a given season

    Success will be dictated by scheme, supporting cast, and a bit of luck.

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    Gary Klein@LATimesklein
    McVay on Mannion: “It was kind of a perfect storm of really a lot of things didn’t work out in his favor. He certainly had a part, but I think everybody that was involved from an offensive standpoint could have done a little bit better.”

    Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
    Sean McVay said he wouldn’t consider holding his starters out for the entire preseason…yet. Didn’t write it off either. Spoke at length about Washington’s two ACL tears. Sounds as though it will be almost all backups against Raiders next Saturday. Then we’ll see in week 3.

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    Myles Simmons@MylesASimmons

    On a conference call, #LARams HC Sean McVay says WR Josh Reynolds (ankle) and CB Kevin Peterson (knee) are undergoing further evaluation for injuries sustained in last night’s game.

    While McVay said he “wouldn’t go that far yet,” he noted it’s not entirely out of the realm of possibility that some key #LARams starters may not see playing time for the duration of the preseason.

    That’s especially because there’s kind of a unique situation with LA facing Oakland this week and also in Week 1 of the regular season. But McVay reiterated they’ll take it one day at a time, and see where things go.

    Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry

    Just wrapped up a conference call with Sean McVay. It sounds like we will see a little bit of Goff, Gurley and starters in the preseason. But it will be a VERY limited amount. (And probably won’t happen this week).

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    I really been keying on the O-linemen….

    Williams will get cut…. I just don’t see him making the team…
    last year we just didnt have any body to replace Williams or Lucas…

    Lucas,,, when I saw him in camp,,, I thought he was holding up his own,,,
    I said I would wait until pre-season to go up against speed rushers…
    Well that answer has been said,,, He is not cutting it either….

    I’ve stated that both Noteboom and Demby need to hit the weight room to build up their upper body….

    To be honest,,, from what I’ve been watching on tape and in camp, I feel Demby is a little stronger at this moment in the upper body than Noteboom…

    They both have their technique down,,, but Demby seems to be more of a mauler once he gets a hold of his opponent… I can see him coming in at the beginning as a swing tackle before Noteboom… IMO

    But after watching last nite pre-season game… I see no reason for Lucas or Williams to be kept,,, both Noteboom or Demby could do as much as they did… So I say cut those vet OT… and go with the younger guys..

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    I really been keying on the O-linemen….

    Williams will get cut…. I just don’t see him making the team…
    last year we just didnt have any body to replace Williams or Lucas…

    Lucas,,, when I saw him in camp,,, I thought he was holding up his own,,,
    I said I would wait until pre-season to go up against speed rushers…
    Well that answer has been said,,, He is not cutting it either….

    I’ve stated that both Noteboom and Demby need to hit the weight room to build up their upper body….

    To be honest,,, from what I’ve been watching on tape and in camp, I feel Demby is a little stronger at this moment in the upper body than Noteboom…

    They both have their technique down,,, but Demby seems to be more of a mauler once he gets a hold of his opponent… I can see him coming in at the beginning as a swing tackle before Noteboom… IMO

    But after watching last nite pre-season game… I see no reason for Lucas or Williams to be kept,,, both Noteboom or Demby could do as much as they did… So I say cut those vet OT… and go with the younger guys..

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    Rams vs. Ravens: Studs and duds from L.A.’s 26-point loss

    Cameron DaSilva

    Rams vs. Ravens: Studs and duds from L.A.'s 26-point loss

    The Los Angeles Rams kicked off the 2018 preseason on Thursday night against the Baltimore Ravens, but not with a bang. They were dominated by a score of 33-7, failing to get into the end zone until the fourth quarter.

    As with every game, there were some players who stood out for all the right reasons, as well as those who struggled in the preseason opener. We categorize these as studs and duds.

    Studs

    LB Micah Kiser

    Kiser didn’t have his name called by many media members prior to Thursday night, but he was all over the field against the Ravens. He made a game-high six tackles, got in the quarterback’s throwing lanes and filled holes on defense. That’s something the Rams’ linebackers struggled to do last season with Alec Ogletree in the middle of the defense.

    Kiser has an uphill battle to earn playing time with Mark Barron and Cory Littleton being the projected starters, but if he continues to play the way he did on Thursday, coaches will take notice.

    DL Ethan Westbrooks

    Westbrooks put on a show in the first half, recording two tackles, both of which were sacks. Each of them came on third down, forcing the Ravens to either punt or kick a field goal, which Justin Tucker missed from 60 yards out. Those were the two best plays the Rams defense made in the first half, keeping points off the board.

    Additionally, he pressured Lamar Jackson on his touchdown run, nearly getting to him for a loss. This was a great performance by him as he’s essentially a lock to make the roster with his versatility at defensive end and tackle.

    RB Justin Davis

    Davis is a preseason stud. After showing out last year, he continued his strong exhibition play against the Ravens on Thursday night. He carried it seven times for 41 yards, excluding a would-be 10-yard gain if not for offsetting penalties. Most importantly, he held onto the football after struggling with fumbles last preseason.

    He could push Malcolm Brown for a roster spot, especially with John Kelly likely to make the roster as a rookie. He provides a spark similarly to the way that Tavon Austin did at running back.

    Honorable mentions: John Kelly, JoJo Natson

    Duds

    QB Sean Mannion

    Where to begin. His check downs were behind receivers, he hardly took chances downfield, and when he did, his passes were either incomplete or picked off. He finished the game 3-for-13 with just 16 yards and an interception, posting an abysmal 7.5 passer rating.

    This was a game in which he needed to play well in order to hold off Brandon Allen and Luis Perez, both of whom are cheaper and offer greater upside. Nothing about his performance against the Ravens was impressive, showing very little awareness and accuracy on his dropbacks.

    CB Troy Hill

    This certainly wasn’t Hill’s best performance. After playing extremely well against the Falcons in the postseason, Hill struggled in this one. He was beaten by Michael Crabtree for a 30-yard gain after Joe Flacco escaped the pocket, was called for illegal hands to the face on a crucial third-down red zone play and gave up another long pass to Chris Moore down the middle. Coverage was decent, but he didn’t get turned around quick enough.

    OTs Cornelius Lucas/Darrell Williams

    Neither of the Rams’ backup tackles helped themselves in this one, each allowing a sack on Mannion. Williams was beaten by Terrell Suggs as he got to Mannion to force the fumble, which luckily went out of bounds. In the running game, the line performed well, but that was when Joseph Noteboom and Brian Allen came into the game.

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    my thots on a bunch of guys I watched….

    QBs:
    Mannion?……….no freakin way…too slow and too deliberate…and NOT accurate. I’ve hated the drafting of Mannion for years…and right to do so! lol
    Allen……………… did okay, I’d like to see more reps after Mannion is cut and they sign a vet QB for 2nd string.

    RBs:
    Brown……………..I’d let him go, frankly…too slow tho a fine pounder.
    Davis………………Yep, like last year…this kid’s got some juice and talent…just needs to hang onto the ball.
    Kelly……………….Yep, this kid’s fer real and offers way more than Brown. Davis & Kelly should be vying for 2nd string. imo

    WRs:
    …………………meh, they didn’t pass much and I didn’t notice much other than #19 Natson?…er, Tiny Tavon the 2nd. winking smiley

    TE:
    Hemingway…….is Fool’s Gold….a coach killer. It’ll be Higbee or Everett until they draft another and get it right.

    OL:
    Noteboom……….looked okay…good feet..a little confused at times, but got into the scrum other times. did okay at OT spots on both sides at times.
    Allen……………….looked physically overwhelmed, at times….too many times…but was pretty mobile on some plays.
    Denby……………..slow & confused….but might be an anchor at RG in a year when he gets stronger.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    DL:
    Westbrooks……….played well and had 2 sacks….probably a starter on another team…..was active/solid.
    Sebastion-Day……okay…
    Franklin-Myers……..I didn’t notice….did he even play?
    Lawler…………………a Longacre clone….exactly, so functional…and pretty active in on tackles / around the ball.
    TYoung………………..I like his hustle and natural ability…like many rooks…just a bit slow to react at times.

    LBs: – the best group of rookies, I thought
    Hager………………….did okay, I thought..was active.
    Kiser…………………..was pretty active for his first real experience playing…reminded me of a very young LFletcher in his build and play.
    TScales………………..was very fast and active at times…
    THoward……………….I get Howard & Scales mixed up cuz they’re the same type of player. lol

    DBs:
    I didn’t pay too much attention

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    i got around to watching the late NFL airing of the Rams Ravens game tonight.

    i focused solely on Oline and honestly didn’t even watch the defense. Just rewound every play on offense until i could determine what each olineman was doing and how well he did it.

    Here are my General Observations:

    The Bad:

    1 Brian Allen won’t make it at this level. disappointing to say it but he was getting manhandled more than a few times vs the pass and in the run game. I was
    for the draft pick but when your getting manhandled vs second stringers it’s not a good sign.

    2 Lucas – still can’t handle edge rushers. Too bad because he has some redeeming qualities.

    The Good:

    1 Jamil Demby – Best Olineman on film last night. Its only one preseason game vs backups but boy was he solid vs run and pass. his wide body work really does remind you of Saffold. He also plays some solid RT.

    2 Jake EldrenKamp – Just like last preaseason, Jake was solid. Nothing dominant here, but he is consistent, scheme conscientious, quick on his feet and has solid hand usage. Great backup depth for sure at guard and center.

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    from PFF: ReFocused, NFL Preseason Week 1: Baltimore Ravens 33, Los Angeles Rams 7

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-refocused-2018-ravens-33-rams-7

    ANALYST TAKEAWAYS

    Rams QB Sean Mannion had a game to forget. He struggled to complete any passes as he went just 3-of-13 with an interception through the first half. He also had quite a few passes batted at the line of scrimmage, as well as a fumble. The offensive line did not help much, but Mannion did not look comfortable at all.

    John Kelly should see more touches next week as he made the most of his opportunities in his professional debut. He turned a pitch play to the right side into a huge gain for a Rams offsense that had been struggling all night. He also showed good vision and good cut ability as he made the most of his chances.

    The Rams struggled on defense, in particular the secondary as Baltimore rolled up 403 yards including 263 yards passing. Edge defender Samson Ebakum was a bright spot as he was nearly unblockable rushing the passer. His athleticism and quickness with his hands give him an array of moves to use on blockers

    KEY TO THE GAME

    Baltimore: Ravens’ quarterbacks made plays most of the night even when things broke down. Jackson flashed his athletic ability with scrambes and Flacco looked as sharp as he has in a long time. The Rams defense seemed to be a step behind most of the night.

    Los Angeles: While the offense struggled overall, Kelly was the lone bright spot. He averaged 5.9 yards per carry and had nice plays in both the running and passing game, proving his worth on the roster.

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    Did Davis fumble ?

    Speak of the devil.

    Rams running back Justin Davis has a better grip in this year’s preseason opener

    Gary Klein

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-report-20180809-story.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    There was no way the ball was going to hit the ground.
    Not after last year’s preseason opener, when Rams running back Justin Davis fumbled twice in his first series.

    The miscues marred an otherwise impressive debut performance by the former USC tailback, who signed with the Rams as an undrafted free agent and spent most of his rookie season on the roster but inactive for games.
    On Thursday night, Davis held the ball tight and rushed for 41 yards in seven carries, one of the few bright spots in a 33-7 loss to the Baltimore Ravens at M&T Bank Stadium.
    “It definitely crossed my mind,” Davis said of last season’s first-game struggle. “But it’s a new year and it’s night and day for me.”
    With Todd Gurley and other starters held out, Malcolm Brown started at running back and played two series before Davis came on for the rest of the first half. His top play was a 17-yard run.
    “He’s kind of just one cut away,” from breaking longer plays, coach Sean McVay said.
    Rookie John Kelly played in the second half and rushed for 77 yards in 13 carries, including a 40-yard run near the end of the third quarter.
    “It was a good experience,” said Kelly, a sixth-round draft pick from Tennessee. “It was fun to get an opportunity to get out there and experience the NFL playing against someone in a game setting.”

    Countess injured

    Rams safety Blake Countess suffered a first-quarter shoulder injury on a play that he was penalized on for lowering his head.
    The injury marred an otherwise enjoyable week for a player who grew up only a few minutes from the Ravens’ practice facility in Owings Mills, and had a crowd of nearly 60 family and friends at the game.
    Before he was injured, Countess broke up a pass from Joe Flacco intended for Michael Crabtree.
    “This is like a homecoming,” Wendell Countess, Blake’s father, said before the game. “It is a business trip, and it’s fun for the friends and family.”

    Said Melody Countess, Blake’s mother: “It’s almost like coming full circle…. To have him come back now and get back to all the people that have supported him.”
    Randy Smith, who coached Countess in youth football, said he teared up when he watched Countess play for Auburn against Michigan in college. Thursday night was the first time watching him in person as a pro.
    “Knowing that you helped him develop the love or maintain the love of football, and made a difference in a young man’s life, that’s why you coach,” Smith said.

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    Lindsey Thiry
    ESPN

    Jared Goff and Todd Gurley wore sweats as they stood on the sideline Thursday night during the Rams’ 33-7 loss to the Baltimore Ravens. Sean McVay elected to sit not only his top playmakers, but his entire starting lineup (With the exception of right guard Jamon Brown, outside linebacker Samson Ebukam and specialists) in the preseason opener. After two joint practices with the Ravens earlier in the week, McVay said he wanted to avoid the risk of potential injuries. But the backups struggled — especially on offense. Sean Mannion played the first half (3-for-13 for 16 yards, INT), and Brandon Allen (10-for-15 for 73 yards, TD) in the second. The biggest bright spot came from the running back position, where second-year pro Justin Davis and rookie John Kelly are competing for the No. 3 spot. Both looked sharp and Kelly broke for a 40-yard run late in the game. The defense appeared out of sync as it allowed 403 total yards.

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    Seven Stats: Rams Fall to Ravens 33-7 in Preseason Week 1

    Clarence Dennis

    https://www.therams.com/news/seven-stats-rams-fall-to-ravens-33-7-in-preseason-week-1

    The Los Angeles Rams started off the 2018 preseason with a loss to the Ravens in Baltimore. The Rams, who rested nearly all starters on Thursday night, struggled to get much going on offense against the Ravens defense.
    1. PLAGUED BY PENALTIES
    The Rams racked up penalties on Thursday night. In an especially rough first half, the Rams were flagged nine times for 72 yards. Safeties Marqui Christian and Blake Countess committed consecutive unnecessary roughness penalties by leading with the helmet, a newly imposed rule in 2018. The pair of flags equated to 30 yards for the Ravens on a drive that ended with a 29-yard field goal by kicker Justin Tucker.
    2. RAMS TAKE AN “L”
    The Rams entered Thursday’s contest in Baltimore 4-0 all-time against the Ravens in the preseason. The 33-7 loss eliminates the Rams’ perfect preseason record against the Ravens. All five meetings have come since 2008.
    3. ROOKIE LEADS RUSHERS
    On a night where Los Angeles couldn’t find its offensive rhythm, rookie running back John Kelly exploded late in the third quarter for what was arguably the offensive play of the night. Kelly picked up 40 yards on a pitch from quarterback Brandon Allen, good for the the longest run of the night for L.A. Kelly finished leading all rushers with 77 yards on 13 carries.

    4. WESTBROOKS’ MULTI-SACK GAME
    Defensive end Ethan Westbrooks sacked Ravens’ rookie quarterback Lamar Jackson twice on Thursday night. Westbrooks’ two sacks in tonight’s preseason game matched his season totals from both 2015 (2.0) and 2016 (2.0). Westbrooks has eight career regular-season sacks.
    5. ALLEN OUTPLAYS MANNION
    Third-year quarterback Brandon Allen took the reins on offense from starter Sean Mannion to start the third quarter. Mannion was 3-of-13 for just 16 yards passing with one interception. Allen, who did not see the field at all last season, finished 10-for-15, 73 yards passing, and the only touchdown of the night. Allen connected late with receiver KhaDarel Hodge on an eight-yard touchdown pass.

    6. HEKKER KEPT BUSY
    Punter Johnny Hekker joined the list of Rams who didn’t seem himself Thursday night. The Pro-Bowl punter uncharacteristically shanked his third punt of the night, sending the ball only eight yards up the sideline. Last season, Hekker averaged 47.9-yards per punt. Hekker punted it away seven times in the preseason opener, with the Rams unable to keep their defensive second and third units off of the field.
    7. THIRD DOWN WOES
    Finally, the Rams struggled heavily on third downs. The offense was 4-for-15 moving the chains on third down, a conversion rate of about 26 percent. Last season, the Rams’ high-scoring offense converted 88-of-214 third down trys, good for a conversion rate of about 41 percent. Fortunately for Rams fans, the higher conversion rate came with starters like quarterback Jared Goff and running back Todd Gurley on the field.

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