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znModeratorRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
One reveal today…Dominique Easley is working at OLB, and Matt Longacre returned to practice today. So add them to the list with Ejuan Price, Ryan Davis, etc. Spot opposite Samson Ebukam remains wide open.
The Rams won’t sign Junior Galette. Sean McVay: “It just didn’t work out, for reasons that we will keep inside.” Galette never had a workout. Took a physical and it was fine.
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Myles Simmons@MylesASimmons
Along with DL Dom Easley, HC Sean McVay said LB Mark Barron also returned to practice on Monday. McVay said goal for Barron is to have him play in Week 1, so don’t expect any preseason action for him===
ESPNLosAngeles@ESPNLosAngeles– Interviewed NFL Network’s Steve Wyche:– @wyche89 on what a successful season is for the Rams
“I think the pieces are in place for them to really make a deeper run & I think again that’s what a successful season is when you go out & spend $14 million dollars on a 1-year deal for Ndamukong Suh….”and you make a trade for Aqib Talib and Marcus Peters…those aren’t moves made for patience…those are moves made to win now.”.”– @wyche89 on what to expect from Sean McVay
“I think now you’re going to see him [Sean McVay] grow more as an overall team leader & talking to people about how he handles players or how he handles the organization, how we really get everyone going.” …”I think you’re going to see more of that while at the same time…the stylistics are not going to diminish.”– @wyche89 on Rams’ defense with Donald
“We keep overlooking a really good player on that defense and that is Michael Brockers and you put Brockers and Suh and Donald on that defensive line…I don’t know who is going to run against them.”– @wyche89 on Aaron Donald
“I don’t see him coming in without a new contract but from folks I’ve spoken to there definitely seems like there’s some optimism that something will get done. For him to actually get in some practices before Week 1.”
znModeratorJunior Galette @JovaisG
What I’m saying is I’ll take VETERAN Minimum From Any Team Right now lol I know what I’m up against this a battle I cannot winWho knows I’m Healthy and Ready to go fresh off of a 16 Game Season didn’t miss a Game maybe they’ll call again lol
Looks like I’m waiting on The @Redskins Again till I hear from another Team lol the Irony
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Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
The Rams won’t sign Junior Galette. Sean McVay: “It just didn’t work out, for reasons that we will keep inside.” Galette never had a workout. Took a physical and it was fine.
znModeratorReminds me of Mr. Richie Incognito,
Speak of the devil: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/incognito-arrested-after-threatening-to-shoot-funeral-home-employees/

znModeratorMaybe Allen is that guy, but the one report that sticks with me was from early in camp saying that he was getting thrown around a lot.
Recent reports, including from game reviews, are better.
znModeratorGuam is wide open.

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znModeratorNeil Hornsby@PFF_Neil
Solid move for the Rams. Over the last 3 years Havenstein has played 2698 snaps at RT and rated as a “good starter” with a 75.1 grade. That’s 11th among RT’s with over 2000 snaps.==
Rams Agree to Terms With Rob Havenstein on Four-Year Extension
Myles Simmons
https://www.therams.com/news/rams-agree-to-terms-with-rob-havenstein-on-four-year-extension
The Rams have agreed to terms with right tackle Rob Havenstein on a four-year extension, keeping him under contract with the club through the 2022 season.
Originally a second-round pick in the 2015 NFL Draft, Havenstein has been a mainstay of the Rams’ offensive line since he arrived at that spring’s rookie minicamp. He’s started each of the 43 games he’s played since entering the league.
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“We’re excited to extend Rob with the Rams for another four seasons,” Rams Head Coach Sean McVay said. “He’s been a reliable member of our offensive line and maintaining consistency among that unit is important as we continue to grow offensively. Congratulations to Rob and his family.”
On draft night, general manager Les Snead declared, “With big Rob, he’s ready to play.” And Havenstein proved Snead right by starting at right tackle fin the Week 1 victory over the Seahawks. Havenstein played in 13 games his rookie year — missing three due to injury — and was a significant factor in running back Todd Gurley earning AP Offensive Rookie of the Year. The Wisconsin product was named to the PFWA All-Rookie team for his 2015 performance.
Havenstein continued on as Los Angeles’ starting right tackle in each of the last two seasons, starting 15 games each year. He again helped pave the way for Gurley’s strong season in 2017, as the running back was named AP Offensive Player of the year after recording 1,305 yards rushing with 13 rushing touchdowns as well as 19 total touchdowns and 2,093 yards from scrimmage.
Entering his fourth professional season, Havenstein was slated to be a free agent next March. Now he’s become the second member of the Rams 2015 draft class to receive a long-term extension in the last 30 days, following Gurley. Havenstein is one of five members of that draft class still with the club, including Gurley, right guard Jamon Brown, backup quarterback Sean Mannion, and inside linebacker Bryce Hager. The club also brought on running back Malcolm Brown, outside linebacker Matt Longacre, and offensive lineman Darrell Williams as undrafted free agents that spring.
znModeratorI like it, (though I am curious where that puts him on the RT salary list. It sound reasonable to me).
Brown is staying next to him for a couple more years at least. If we can keep Saffold, too, and that seems promising based on what he said this week, we have a lot of both Blue Chip and Red Chip players under contract for a good stretch of time. This OL appears to have depth and a steal in Noteboom as future LT. And the core players are all young.
In fact, I do not remember the Rams ever being positioned this strongly since the origin of the salary cap.
I’m feeling like I just acquired a high performance sports car, and I am free to go.
Good post. I agree on the high note part. Yep things are looking as good as they could at this point.
Some more things. Don’t mind me, you got me tah thinkin.
Chances are by keeping Hav that means they’re not keeping Brown. He;s a FA after this season. Looks like Brown is a goner. Depending on what else happens, Demby could develop (he’s not starting out bad at all), Noteboom looks very solid but he might be needed elsewhere, they could draft a guy (they have 4 picks in rounds 1-3), and maybe one of the aspiring ronin/udfa types could mature into the role (thinking of guys like Neary, Eldrencamp–it’s a long and right now not that distinguished list).
Whitworth and Sullivan are both getting up there but Noteboom looks promising and in a different way so does Allen.
2019 is supposed to be a good OL draft and my bet is, they will have to hit it for that.
Saffold? A wildcard. He may sign for low but even if he does, we’re talking 5-6 M, which is what I see looking at comparable guys of the same age who signed for a bit less.
Hav’s contract puts him at 3rd right now for ROTs. He’s not really the 3rd best ROT in the league but that’s not how contracts work. Decent ROTs of his caliber were signing for 7+ to 8 M last year. High end is the Eagles’s Lane Johnson at 11+ M but he is a big exception. In comparison to all OTs in general, 8 M puts Hav at about 22nd, but then good LOTs just earn a lot more than ROTs so that’s never a valid comparison. Every single LOT who gets more than Hav could play ROT at least as well as him and probably better, and Hav couldn’t play LOT.
I have mixed feelings about this signing but as mixed feelings go it’s lowkey. I think Hav is at the high end of middle of the pack as a right OT, and ROTs are not that hard to replace. By saying if he’s 11th best you were fine with that indicates you are not quibbling about this, and I;m not the opposite of that but I am quibbling just a bit. It wouldn’t be what I did but then it’s also not a bad decision either. Both the best and the worst that can be said about signing Hav is that there’s really nothing wrong with it.
In terms of continuity, after this year, there won’t be much. IF Whit and Sullivan still play, and if they keep Saffold, then yes they have Hav, and with those 4 in place that is the high end of possible continuity, but just for 2019. But any 1 of those other three are gone next year, and that could be up to possibly all 3 of them gone, and if goes that way then it;s Hav and Noteboom, and they’re really starting over on the OL with Hav being the one continuing veteran. That’s common in the NFL…old fashioned OL continuity kind of went away with the pre-cap/free agency era. So it’s pretty common around the league.
znModeratorThis looks like it ain’t happenin.
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What don’t Break U Makes U! Next Stop……
— Junior Galette (@JovaisG) August 21, 2018
znModeratorAlong with DL Dom Easley, HC Sean McVay said LB Mark Barron also returned to practice on Monday. McVay said goal for Barron is to have him play in Week 1, so don't expect any preseason action for him.
— Myles Simmons (@MylesASimmons) August 21, 2018
znModeratorAlong with DL Dom Easley, HC Sean McVay said LB Mark Barron also returned to practice on Monday. McVay said goal for Barron is to have him play in Week 1, so don't expect any preseason action for him.
— Myles Simmons (@MylesASimmons) August 21, 2018
znModeratordzrams
This signing is the Rams making a statement that Noteboom’s the LT. It aligns with him primarily getting snaps at LT. I really doubt his long term future will be at a guard position.
This development definitely affects 1st round draft targets in 2019. It opens everything up….
znModeratorIn other words…..they’re playing @MylesASimmons https://t.co/m2Ycijufvi
— Steve Wyche (@wyche89) August 20, 2018
znModeratorJoe Curley@vcsjoecurley
Rams lock in another piece that was questionable going forward. Rams were in a situation where any or all of the five starting OL spots could turn over next season==
Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
The #Rams and RT Rob Havenstein agreed to terms on a 4-year extension, the team announced, and source said it’s worth more than $32M. He was a priority, especially considering his role in paving the way for Todd Gurley.—
Solid move for the Rams. Over the last 3 years Havenstein has played 2698 snaps at RT and rated as a "good starter" with a 75.1 grade. That's 11th among RT's with over 2000 snaps. https://t.co/6IEkKiDR5Z
— Neil Hornsby (@PFF_Neil) August 20, 2018
znModeratorDT @DominiqueEasley Off PUP, On Active Roster
Read 📰 » https://t.co/8P3kRIhbUx pic.twitter.com/T8JwQNkjIO
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 20, 2018
znModeratorOn paper, the signing of Junior Galette makes a ton of sense. The Rams are very thin at OLB. Seems like a good fit in Wade’s 3-4, played under LBs coach Joe Barry.
— Ryan Kartje (@Ryan_Kartje) August 20, 2018
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Junior Galette was caught on video beating a woman with a belt in 2013. He was arrested last year for disorderly conduct. Will be interesting to see if he gets a job before Eric Reid. https://t.co/ht0PgXMkvM
— Shaneika Dabney-H (@ShaneikaDabney) August 20, 2018
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Don't see why Rams feel the need to go this direction. But, it's a workout. We'll see if they sign him. Here's a detailed look at how Junior Galette's time in New Orleans abruptly ended. (Via @Kat_Terrell) https://t.co/CXJA0yv9z6
— Lindsey Thiry (@LindseyThiry) August 20, 2018
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Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Sean McVay confirmed Sunday that LB Junior Galette will workout for the team Monday. “If things go well then there’s a good possibility that we could sign him,” McVay and linebackers coach Joe Barry have a history with Galette, 30, from Washington and defensive line coach Bill Johnson has a history with him from New Orleans. Galette was sidelined in 2015 and 2016 because of Achilles injuries. Last season he forced a fumble and had a sack in 16 games. Galette has been involved in several incidents off the field: In 2017, Galette was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct in Biloxi, Mississippi. In 2015, Galette was arrested, but charges were later dropped, in a domestic violence incident. The NFL suspended him two games. There’s also a video from a beach scuffle in 2013 that appeared to show Galette striking a woman with a belt, though no charges were filed in the incident.
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znModeratorjrry32
Raider game
Watching Mannion and Allen play QB injured my eyes. I’d keep an eye on things in Pittsburgh. I’d be very interested in Landry Jones or Josh Dobbs. One of the two has to shake loose.
The line of Noteboom, Blythe, Allen, Brown, and whoever was at RT (Lucas or Williams?) was outstanding. And the Raiders weren’t running scrubs out there either. Noteboom was handling Arden Key with ease.
Kelly looks so much quicker than Brown. Brown just looks plodding right now.
I think Nate Holley is going to make the team and replace Cody Davis. He would have been a 4th or 5th round pick if not for that legal issue.
Franklin-Myers fits perfectly in Wade’s SDE role (5-tech). He’s got a similar body type and athletic profile to Antonio Smith, who did quite well in that role for Wade.
I think Ethan Westbrooks is going to have a nice year as our top DL off the bench. He won’t be forced to always play NT, which doesn’t suit his game well.
I’m not seeing it with Kiser right now. They were gashing us since he entered the game. But Kiser looks great on blitzes. Hager has looked quite good. It seems like he’ll be our #3 ILB. I’m guessing Wilson will be #4 with Kiser being #5.
You keep Thomas because he’s a special teams demon who is a good #5 WR. You keep Reynolds because he’s better than Hodge at this point in time. And McVay said a couple weeks ago how excited he is about Reynolds. I don’t think Hodge is going to make the team this year. . He’s showed flashes in the preseason, but he’s not ready for the big time yet. We’re not going to cut an All Pro returner (Cooper), a Pro Bowl caliber special teamer (Thomas), or a very talented WR we drafted in the 4th round last year who started while Woods was out (Reynolds). But he’ll stick on the practice squad. If he can develop the technical side of the game and prove his worth on special teams, he might end up on the active roster sooner than later.
August 20, 2018 at 1:17 am in reply to: highlights & tweets & articles on the Raiders p-s game, including PFF #89635
znModeratorMannion Shows Improvement with Performance vs. Raiders
Myles Simmons
https://www.therams.com/news/mannion-shows-improvement-with-performance-vs-raiders
After a disappointing outing to open the preseason in Baltimore, quarterback Sean Mannion may have hushed some of his critics with Saturday’s performance against Oakland.
Playing the entire first half, Mannion completed 10 of his 16 passes for 84 yards. He led L.A. to an 11-play drive that would end in a missed field goal, but also three scoring drives in the second quarter.
When Mannion exited the game, Los Angeles had a 13-0 lead at halftime.“I think going back and looking at the tape of the Baltimore game, obviously not the performance you want, but also don’t think it was all bad. There was a couple of balls bad at the line, some things that are a little bit out of your control on offense,” Mannion said. “The whole team did a great job of just looking to improve, and there’s certainly ways for me to improve. Like I said, I just felt like it was efficient. I didn’t think there were any balls that I forced or any balls that I had open and missed. I think it was an efficient day for the offense as a whole.”
While the two teams traded punts for the game’s first four possessions, Mannion broke through for a first down with a strong 17-yard pass over the middle to wide receiver Mike Thomas.
“Shane kind of said if we’re going to do a first-down run here we’re going to dial for run-action, and that’s exactly what happened,” Mannion said of the pass, referring to passing game coordinator Shane Waldron. “Mike ran a great route, did a great job winning on his route and great protection. Anytime you get one of those explosive passes, really you get into a rhythm pretty easily.”
Mannion also go to air it out a bit with a long downfield throw on the right sideline to wide receiver KhaDarel Hodge. The young wideout made an outstanding grab to pull the ball down while being well covered.“That was a situation where we got the right look to take a shot. I just tried to put some air under it, give him a chance and he went up and made a great play,” Mannion said.
Head coach Sean McVay credited Mannion for the way he commanded the offense throughout the first half, specifically calling out the throws to Thomas and Hodge.
“I thought he did a good job with some plays. I think [he had a] tough start a little bit, but I think the big play down the field to Hodge and then earlier on when he hit Mike Thomas off the play action on the deep in-breaking route — those were two big plays,” McVay said. “Good throws, where longer developing play actions kind of let it develop. Made some nice accurate throws down the field — one in-break, one down the sideline and then kind of managed the game throughout. But, I think to go 10-for-16 definitely was an improvement and those two plays were two of the better plays that he made today.”
With just a couple weeks until the start of the regular season, it appears Mannion still has a solid grasp on the backup quarterback role. And he feels like he’s ready to come in and execute the offense well if called upon.
“Yes, absolutely,” he said. “I think the preseason is a great chance for everybody to get live reps and real game action. I think our coaches do such a great job of even in practice, whether it’s situational work or a competitive period against the defense. Really making it as close to a game as you can without it being a real thing.
“I absolutely feel comfortable going into a game if need be. I think that’s a credit to Sean [McVay] and the whole staff for giving me opportunities in the preseason, and then also creating those situations at practice as well.”
znModeratorNoteboom has great potential….You can see it. I’m very happy with this pick.
Franklin-Myers looks very promising.
Hodge. This kid is amazing. What a battler for the ball.
John Kelly. The Rams just flat out hit on this pick.
Micah Kiser. He was in on a lot of plays. He’s still learning but he can really be a nice piece of the linebacker depth.
So, and it’s still early, you have them hitting on 4 picks and possibly a UDFA.
I agree with all that.
If all that works out, 4 picks without a 1st or 2nd rounder is really good. And we’re hearing some good things about Brian Allen, too. Obo we don’t know about cause he’s hurt.
Mannion to me won’t be THAT bad when he’s paired with Gurley and the starting OL. No worse than Clemens, Hill, or Davis, and probably better than the “can melt down a couple of times a year” version of Foles they had–but in better circumstances than any of those guys. This is NOT an optimistic take…or not overly so…they clearly aren’t a playoff team with Mannion, but he would not only have more around him than Clemens/Hill/Davis did, including as I said Gurley, he would also have a more talented offensive coach who could probably set him up to be at least okay.
The way I see it, if ARZ could win 4 out of 5 with Drew Stanton in 2016/2017 while completing 47% of his passes, getting an avg. qb rating of 61.04, and throwing as many INTs as TDs, then I don’t write off McVay pulling out some wins with Mannion. In fact, Mannion’s numbers in game 17 last year without the starters were better than what I just listed for Stanton’s last 5 games with ARZ.
Heck last summer in the pre-season Mannion was 49 of 76 (64+ %) for only 2 TDs but 0 INTs. That’s modest on the TD side, but it’s not catastrophic. Has he regressed from that? (Maybe so, but…also maybe not.)
So I ain’t saying he’s Warner or Bulger on the bench, and maybe not even Keenum, BUT, I am just saying it’s not inevitably bleak.
And. Here’s hoping we never find out.

znModerator22 days until @marcuspeters takes the field for 2018 with the #LARams!
Check out every one of his interceptions from 2017. 😎 pic.twitter.com/4g3Cg04ib6
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 20, 2018
znModeratorI overlooked this when getting caught up in Todd Gurley's affinity for cats. He's been mistaken for DeAndre Hopkins. And he likes to make people happy, so he just goes with it. https://t.co/pSpQDrNo6Y pic.twitter.com/DU0AJg5YP8
— Lindsey Thiry (@LindseyThiry) August 19, 2018
znModeratorRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
McVay said LB Ogbo Okoronkwo’s foot injury “probably isn’t progressing as quick as we’d like.” Rams had hoped to have him practice this past week but it didn’t happen.“There’s a good possibility” that Rams could sign LB Junior Galette after his workout tomorrow, McVay said.
Sean McVay said the Rams suffered no new injuries against the Raiders. He said they’ve yet to decide whether to play starters against the Texans.
McVay on playing starters next Saturday: “We’re going to lean toward playing those guys but nothing is finalized.”
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Ryan Kartje@Ryan_Kartje
On paper, the signing of Junior Galette makes a ton of sense. The Rams are very thin at OLB. Seems like a good fit in Wade’s 3-4, played under LBs coach Joe Barry.Galette has also been in trouble off the field, on multiple occasions. Disorderly conduct arrest in 2017. Domestic violence arrest in 2015. A video in 2013 which showed him attacking a woman.
Noteboom played three positions in the Rams second preseason game. They love his versatility. Even if he doesn’t fill Brown’s role in Week 1, he’ll play somewhere, sometime in 2018
znModeratorWhere was Justin Davis?
Hamstring.
August 19, 2018 at 7:05 pm in reply to: highlights & tweets & articles on the Raiders p-s game, including PFF #89625
znModeratorThe Rams highest graded players on offense and defense yesterday afternoon. pic.twitter.com/2ilbFJGPOf
— Pro Football Focus (@PFF) August 19, 2018


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ReFocused, NFL Preseason Week 2: Los Angeles Rams 19, Oakland Raiders 15
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-refocused-2018-rams-19-raiders-15

Running back John Kelly was praised for his performance in the loss to the Baltimore Ravens last week, but this game wasn’t quite as impressive. Averaging just 3.1 yards per carry, and two yards per reception, there was a lot of dancing around and not really getting anywhere for the former Tennessee running back. At times, he would have been better just taking what was available to him as opposed to looking for more. Disaster almost struck for him as he fumbled going into the end zone, but he was able to recover it to preserve the touchdown.
Two plays really changed the perspective for how this performance from quarterback Brandon Allen is viewed. The first was the fourth-quarter interception where he completely missed linebacker James Cowser in coverage, throwing the ball straight to him and setting the Raiders up just outside the red zone. The second was a missed opportunity on the Rams second-to-last drive, where he overthrew Steven Mitchell after he had gotten wide open in the end zone, forcing them to settle for a field goal.
Nate Holley was a ballhawk in this one, jumping routes and defending a few passes. The Rams coverage unit as a whole was quite solid throughout the game. Of course, things are always easier with a consistent pass-rush, but several members of the defense made some nifty plays on the ball.
The Rams pass-rush was dominant throughout the majority of the game, with Samson Ebukam putting on quite the display against the Raiders offensive line. He got home on multiple occasions using both power and finesse moves. He was not the sole contributor though, as the entire Rams’ front took turns making life very difficult for Raiders quarterbacks.
KEY TO THE GAME
Oakland: The Rams pass rush was dangerous and consistent, taking advantage of some weak depth along the Raiders’ offensive line. Ultimately, that’s where the biggest difference in this one was.
Los Angeles: The Rams didn’t get punished for their early mistakes, with Kelly recovering his own fumble in the end zone and a potential Mannion interception being caught out of bounds. Had those two plays gone differently, the end result might have been flipped.
August 19, 2018 at 7:00 pm in reply to: highlights & tweets & articles on the Raiders p-s game, including PFF #89624
znModeratorWIDE open! Henry Krieger-Coble sets up a field goal and the @RamsNFL are up, 19-15.#OAKvsLAR
📺: @nflnetwork pic.twitter.com/lzQMVQ333S
— NFL (@NFL) August 18, 2018
August 19, 2018 at 6:51 pm in reply to: Downtown Rams: Aaron Donald & All Sorts of Rams Talk w/ Eric Geller – Podcast #89622
znModeratorre-set. restore. whatever you want to call it.
donald should get it.
but let it be known…
i never said “qb money”.
ha!
I know you didn’t. I just used responding to you as a springboard to off into my own thing.

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August 19, 2018 at 1:37 pm in reply to: Downtown Rams: Aaron Donald & All Sorts of Rams Talk w/ Eric Geller – Podcast #89608
znModeratori wanna see him get the 24 million a year. he deserves it. if anyone deserves to reset the non-qb market, it’s donald.
Just a detail. He would not be re-setting that market. Not if “re-setting” means something new. 24 M would be 80% of what the top qb gets. In previous years, Watt, then Suh, then Von Miller already did that (80% or better). So it would be more like restoring the value of a player designated “best defender.”
I know exactly what you mean though and I am not arguing with you. I agree. BUT something in this discussion, and I mean at the national level, including reporters and league people, messed up the vocabulary. That makes it harder to talk about this.
Examples.
* he’s not looking to “re-set” anything in the sense that he’s not doing anything new, he’s following in and restoring an established thing
* the “highest paid defender” rhetoric is often misleading because technically, just giving him 20 M would be the highest paid, BUT, 20 M after VM’s 19 M 3 years ago is low in the context of 2018
* it’s not “qb money” because it depends on what people mean by “qb money” and no one knows what they mean by “qb money.” Is it top 10 qb contracts? If so Watt, Suh, and Von Miller all have already crossed that line. Is 24 M qb money? But, even before Rodgers signs his new deal, 24 M is lower than 7 qb contracts. So is qb money top 7? In 2018 2nd contracts for qbs were going for around 28 M. Is 28 M qb money in 2018? Or is qb money measured by contracts handed out 3 years ago, when Luck got 24.5 M? Well why 3 years? Isn’t that arbitrary? IN OTHER WORDS, the whole “qb money” thing is just a buzz term to generate controversy. If I had to guess, I would say that no non-qb is going to get a contract that ranks with the top 5 qbs. But that’s a guess. But according to that guess, nothing less than 25 M is qb money, even if people keep saying it is.
August 19, 2018 at 4:28 am in reply to: McVay, Mannion, Ebukam, Hodge, Kelly … 8/18 … transcripts & 1 vid #89586
znModeratorHC Sean McVay, QB Sean Mannion, OLB Samson Ebukam, WR KhaDarel Hodge, RB John Kelly
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Los Angeles Rams HC Sean McVay
(On QB Sean Mannion’s performance)
“I thought he did a good job with some plays. I think, tough start a little bit, but I think the big play down the field to (WR) (KhaDarel) Hodge and then earlier on when he hit (WR) Mike Thomas off the play action on the deep in-breaking route – those were two big plays. Good throws, where longer developing play actions kind of let it develop. Made some nice accurate throws down the field – one in-break, one down the sideline and then kind of managed the game throughout. But, I think to go 10-for-16 definitely was an improvement and those two plays were two of the better plays that he made today.”
(On whether some starters will play in the third game)
“Yeah, I think that’s something we’re still going to talk about. We talked about it, let’s see how this game goes, how we get through it and then we’ll discuss that as a staff. But, I think you’ll expect to see some guys, but again, we haven’t made that full decision yet. But, looking forward to kind of looking at this tape, seeing how things look and then evaluating how we want to approach this week’s specific to the Houston game.”
(On whether starters would have played if it was not for the season opener against Oakland)
“I mean typically the way that you look at it, yeah, I mean that’s kind of what we’ve done in the past, but I think each year provides a new opportunity to do what we think is best for our team. I think certain specific situations dictate why we did what we did, but there was definitely an element of, ‘Because we play them in the opening week’ why we did that. I don’t know if that was the entire reason so, it’s tough to say just because that was the circumstance that we had.”
(On the possibility that QB Jared Goff and RB Todd Gurley II could not play during preseason)
“I would say there’s a possibility, but I think those guys both would tell you that they want to play. I think being able to listen to those guys, understand kind of where they’re coming from to get into a little bit of a rhythm, get out there, put some pads on where they can actually get tackled is something that we want to think about. And again, like we talk about, we’ll make those decisions as a staff. Certainly, our players’ opinions do have a big part of it in terms of kind of what they’re feeling and how we can put them in good spots ultimately to feel as good as possible for September 10.”
(On meeting up with Raiders Head Coach Jon Gruden before the game)
“Yeah, it was fun. I think everybody knows what a huge amount of respect I have for (Raiders Head Coach) Jon (Gruden) and how great he’s been to me over the course of my coaching career. It was a good opportunity to be able to do that today. It’s definitely something that’s exciting and certainly I think that September 10 date will be pretty special as well.”
(On if this game showed the amount of depth this team has)
“I think so. I think that’s what we’re trying to continue to establish, is depth – really on both sides of the football. See who those guys are that are going to be key contributors, God forbid if we have some of those injuries at those spots where there’s a little bit more kind of certainty in terms of who’s going to be your projected starters based on day one and things of that nature. But, I thought some guys flew around. I thought our defense was outstanding to start, to be able to play the way they did with that energy, that effort early on. I thought (Defensive Coordinator) Wade (Phillips) and the coaching staff on defense did a great job and to be able to get two turnovers I thought was key to being able to secure the win today.”
(On if he was able to pick up anything from the Raiders team)
“I think it’s tough to say. They were pretty regulated. Very similar in terms of the approach by both teams – very vanilla. I think there’s some key concepts that both teams will run offensively. Some situational things that you see that show up defensively in a (Raiders Defensive Coordinator) Paul Guenther led defense. But, for the most part it was pretty regulated and that’s kind of what we expected just based on the way we were approaching this on both sides.”
(On what he’s liked about T Joseph Noteboom these past couple games playing multiple positions on the line)
“Just that – his versatility. I think (Run Game Coordinator) Aaron Kromer has done a really good job of not necessarily limiting him in terms of just playing tackle. He can play on both the left and the right side of the line and then he’s also able to play inside at that guard position. He’s shown a lot of good, encouraging signs for us. Confident, smart, conscientious player and that’s really – it’s been a credit to (T) Joe (Noteboom), but also Aaron Kromer’s leadership.”
(On WR KhaDarel Hodge’s catch in the second quarter)
“Yeah, I think it was an incredible play. Really, if you look at the last couple weeks, somebody that’s been consistently showing up in terms of making plays, it’s been (WR) KhaDarel Hodge. You see, that’s a big-time play down the field where he’s got a guy draped all over him. It was going to draw a ‘PI’ (pass interference), but he ends up coming down with it. Then, last week, you look at the touchdown catch that he makes. He’s a guy that’s consistently showing up. Real credit to him and to (Wide Receivers Coach) Eric Yarber. You look at it where he came in, we worked him out at the beginning of training camp – he wasn’t with us this whole offseason. For him to continue to take these steps in the right directions and then being able to demonstrate that play-making ability has been something that you definitely can’t help but notice and it’s been good to see.”
(On if another player will replace G Jamon Brown with the first team next week)
“It’s a good question. I think that’s going to be specific to our approach as far as exactly what we decide to do in terms of this game, but we’ve definitely done a good job. (Run Game Coordinator Aaron) Kromer’s done a really good job of being able to kind of get some different guys some reps with that first unit at that right guard spot. (G) Jamon’s (Brown) still taking a handful of them as well knowing that we’re going to get him back in that third week. But, those are kind of things that we’ve kind of been thinking about for a long time. That’s why that kind of versatility where guys have the ability to play more than one spot is really important so that you don’t have to make too many changes if you are going to fill that spot from maybe somebody other than – whether it’s a younger player, whether it’s the (C) Austin Blythe’s of the world. I think that situation will naturally sort itself out.”
(On if he needs two more preseason games to get the team ready for the regular season)
“Well, I think we need a lot of work in terms of what we get done in practice. The thing that we’ve always talked about that you have a tough time managing is, you don’t ever take for granted the work in being able to play in these live game situations and what that does for your team. But, it’s that balance of, ‘Okay, getting that work at the risk of if somebody gets rolled up in a game that’s really not going to count, how do you really measure that?’ I think that’s where you’ve kind of got to take each individual situation and figure out what’s best for our team, but certainly we’ve got a lot of work to do until we’re ready to roll for that September 10 date. That’s what we do know for sure.”
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QB Sean Mannion
(On what he thought the Raiders did differently in the first versus second half that enabled them to progress)
“I don’t think it was anything necessarily. I just think we just did a good job executing, it was crisp execution. I think anytime you can do long extended drives in the preseason, which I think we had maybe two drives that were 10 or more plays, that’s what you want. It shows you’re executing well on first and second downs, a couple third-down conversions. I think that was a really good sign for us. That was what we wanted to do today.”
(On if he felt like he improved since last week’s performance)
“I felt good. I think going back and looking at the tape of the Baltimore game, obviously not the performance you want, but also don’t think it was all bad. There was a couple of balls bad at the line, some things that are a little bit out of your control on offense. The whole team did a great job of just looking to improve, and there’s certainly ways for me to improve. Like I said, I just felt like it was efficient. I didn’t think there were any balls that I forced or any balls that I had open and missed. I think it was an efficient day for the offense as a whole.”
(On his completion to WR Mike Thomas)
“It was great. We had an efficient run on first down, I think it was like second-and-five or second-and-six. (Pass Game Coordinator) Shane (Waldron) kind of said if we’re going to do a first-down run here we’re going to dial for run-action, and that’s exactly what happened. (WR) Mike (Thomas) ran a great route, did a great job winning on his route and great protection. Anytime you get one of those explosive passes, really you get into a rhythm pretty easily.”
(On the pass to WR KhaDarel Hodge)
“(WR) KhaDarel (Hodge) has been doing great. He’s been making a ton of plays, really through camp. Last week he caught a TD in the preseason. KhaDarel has been awesome. He knows where to be on every play. That was a situation where we got the right look to take a shot. I just tried to put some air under it, give him a chance and he went up and made a great play.”
(On how he feels about his progress and if he feels like he’s ready to start a regular season game if he needed to)
“Yes, absolutely. I think the preseason is a great chance for everybody to get live reps and real game action. I think our coaches do such a great job of even in practice, whether it’s situational work or a competitive period against the defense. Really making it as close to a game as you can without it being a real thing. I absolutely feel comfortable going into a game if need be. I think that’s a credit to (Head Coach) Sean (McVay) and the whole staff for giving me opportunities in the preseason, and then also creating those situations at practice as well.”
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OLB Samson Ebukam
(On if he felt the pass rush today was more this team’s style)
“Yeah, I’m one of those guys that just keeps going and going so I feel like if I would’ve kept playing that second half definitely would have been over and I definitely would have hit that quarterback a lot more because I had QB hurries but I just have to get there faster.”
(On why he was still out there during the preseason given he is listed as a starter)
“Because I have something to prove to the coaches. Because we lost a key factor in (former OLB) Robert Quinn and (former OLB Connor Barwin) ‘CB’ last year, so we’re all just trying to earn our spots and I’m trying to prove something to the coaches.”
(On how much it helps to see more plays at this point in his career)
“It feels awesome. It’s just more experience for me and it’s just going to help me out for when the regular season gets here because we’re going to put it together.”
(On how close these reps in preseason look like what he saw last year)
“I mean it’s definitely different because it’s not their starters that I’m going up against. I just have to show the coaches what I can do and gain more trust from them so that in the regular season they can just put me on the field and I can just go out there.”
(On if he feels pressure replacing two guys that were significant)
“No, not really because the coaches don’t really put any pressure on anybody. They just want you to do your best and show out on film just so that when regular season gets here they know who to trust.”
(On what it’s like to be in a position group with so many rotating guys)
“It’s pretty awesome. It keeps you on your toes because you always want to do good. You can see today I was out for one play and (DL Justin) Lawler came in and made a great sack-fumble. It’s that close of a competition. Everybody is always trying to put their best foot forward.”
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WR KhaDarel Hodge
(On the play where he made a 47-yard catch)
“Really, I just looked it in and I tried to stack them and I just did what I usually do, what I’m coached to do – use my fundamentals – made a big play and I just thank God for it.”
(On having two big plays in two consecutive weeks)
“Oh yeah, it’s pretty exciting. I feel pretty good about it, but I’m not going to get comfortable or anything – still go out there and try to play ball every week.”
(On where he thinks he is compared to where he started with the Rams)
“I’m not even sure. I’m not even trying to keep up with it. I know I’m just going to try to push myself everyday to be the best me. So, if I end up at the top, then I end up at the top. If I don’t, then I’m going to continue to work.”
(On if he thinks he made an impression)
“I think I’ve made some progress towards the depth chart, but I’m not thinking about it. I let the coaches make a decision.”
(On battling against the Rams defense and how he feels it makes him a better player)
“We have, I think, we have the best defense in the league, anyway. So, we practice against the best defense every day. So, in the game it’s just practice basically. It’s not overwhelming or anything.”
(On what the call was and what he was thinking during the long pass play)
“It was basically a go-route. I know I had the win. I’ve seen the safety in the middle, so I knew (QB) Sean (Mannion) would come to me. So, I just dug out and I’d seen the ball in the air – and at that point it’s just having the fundamentals. I didn’t get ahead of myself and made a big play.”
(On if he feels like he’s making an impression as an undrafted free agent)
“Yeah, I think I am. Well, I don’t let it get – I think I am and I just thank the Lord. I just thank God for what he’s blessing me with talent wise and coach wise. I’ve been in these situations before where I’ve had to come from the bottom and stuff. So, this is nothing new to me.”
(On what it says about all the players around that can come from a small school, undrafted and play well)
“My mindset is that – I’m not being cocky or anything – but, my mindset is that I can be the best. I can be better than anybody. I’m sure that’s everybody’s mindset, but I am surrounded by a bunch of great players in this locker room and they’re pretty good leaders. They show me and tell me about the whereabouts and what I need to do and how I need to do it to last in this league.”’
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RB John Kelly
(On how important it is for him to prove what he is capable of doing after being drafted in the sixth round)
“It really didn’t matter to me as far as the whole draft process. I was more just eager to figure out what team I was going to be on and getting drafted by this organization, they gave me a tremendous opportunity to get out there and compete on offense, special teams. So, I was blessed to just have the opportunity to get out on the field today and I got a little bit more time than last week. So, all those opportunities and reps were definitely valuable. So, I just try to go out there and take advantage of it.”
(On having 18 carries)
“Oh, I had 18 of them? I didn’t even know that. It was good. I was just happy to get the snaps, be out there to get the clicking with my teammates and everybody. Just getting a good feel for the offense with a lot of the younger guys that were out there with me. So, I thought it was pretty good.”
(On if he was getting tired at all)
“No, we’ve got a great conditioning staff here – great strength staff. So, they prepared us for situations like this.”
(On the touchdown run looking like he fumbled the ball)
“Yeah, I got a fumble recovery. So, I was counting stats – I was trying to pad the stats.”
(On 4th & 2 and the offense going for it)
“We had to have it. So, whatever I had to do to get in that end zone, that’s what I was going to do. So, tried to go over the top of the guy, he kind of put his helmet on the ball and he helped me out because I got a fumble recovery. Then I got an opportunity to get in there and celebrate with my teammates. I told them we were going to roll the dice, so it was a gambling thing and we literally did because I almost didn’t get it in there. But, that doesn’t even matter anymore because we got the seven points.”
(On if it feels like a test when they give him those goal line carries)
“Oh yeah, definitely. We knew we’ve got to have it. In the running back room, if it’s third and short – any of that, any of those situations – it’s just got-to-have-it plays. So, I was glad that I was able to get in the end zone for us.”
znModeratorRookie Joseph Noteboom could be the backup plan Rams desperately need
By Vincent Bonsignore
LOS ANGELES — By the time the ice hockey career of Joseph Noteboom topped out in the 11th grade, he was pushing 6-foot-5 and well over 250 pounds. He was a big, fast, tough defenseman whose skating skills defied his imposing frame. The job description was pretty simple: Go find the guy with the puck and crush him.
Noteboom had a particular knack for spotting unsuspecting puck carriers along the boards and then hurling himself at them with all his size, strength and might. Pity the poor opposing player and plexiglass when he timed everything up just right. Which was often.
“Oh yeah, for sure. I was a big guy so that was my job,” said Noteboom, his devilish grin about as chilling as you’d imagine.
About the only thing more absurd than imagining a kid that big flying around an ice hockey rink was the location. When you think hockey, Plano, Texas doesn’t exactly come to mind. But then, who would have thought a town in the middle of Texas would catch the hockey bug like Plano did in the 2000s? But that’s exactly what happened deep in the heart of football country.
Before you knew it, nearly every kid in the region wanted to be Sidney Crosby.
Or in Noteboom’s case, Drew Doughty.
“In my area (hockey is) really big,” Noteboom said. “There were at least five ice rinks within 10 miles.”
The pull of football and a prolonged growth spurt meant hanging up the hockey skates for good. That decision more than six years ago was as easy as it was wise, and it has led him to Los Angeles, where he’s a rookie offensive linemen with the Rams.
Now 6-foot-5 and 310 pounds, Noteboom delivered a crisp, efficient performance in a 19-15 preseason win over the Oakland Raiders on Saturday that, coupled with a strong training camp, gives the Rams hope they shrewdly uncovered a starting-caliber NFL lineman in the third round.
Somehow a man as big as Noteboom went missing from the NFL’s draft radar last April over the first 88 picks, allowing the TCU standout to fall right to the very fortunate Rams at pick No. 89. They went into the draft needing to add youth and depth to a position that was top heavy and extraordinarily lucky last year. They left it with Noteboom, Maine tackle Jamil Demby and Michigan State centre Brian Allen.
All three have played well enough to at least allow the Rams to ponder the possibility that they secured three potential future starters.That’s no small feat considering left tackle Andrew Whitworth is pushing 37, center John Sullivan is 33 and right tackle Rob Havenstein, left guard Rodger Saffold and right guard Jamon Brown are all free agents at the end of the season.
The likelihood the Rams go through another season like 2016 essentially unscathed along the offensive line — they needed just one half of play from a reserve last year — are slim. Chances are one or all of their rookies will be pressed into duty at some point. And with Brown suspended for the first two games of the regular season after violating the NFL’s substance abuse policy, Noteboom could be a candidate to replace him along with veteran Austin Blythe.
But even if they don’t need the rookies this year, the Rams — with their age and finances and the NFL’s hard salary cap — will need one or two new O-line starters to emerge in the very near future.
Noteboom appears the surest bet, at least initially. He played both tackle positions and some right guard Saturday against the Raiders, remaining in the game until the end of the third quarter. And he accounted himself quite well, flashing smooth footwork, balance and hands warding off pass rushers, and power and tenacity in run blocking. The Raiders sat most of their starters, so context is important, but just one month and two preseason games into his career, Noteboom continues to flourish even as the Rams thrust him into stressful situations by challenging him to play multiple positions.
“He’s shown a lot of good, encouraging signs for us,” Rams head coach Sean McVay said. “Confident. Smart, conscientious player.”
“He’s come in as a rookie and done everything asked of him,” said Whitworth, who has taken all three of the Rams’ young linemen under his wing. “He continues to show why he was a good player in college, and he’s continued to improve each and every time he gets an opportunity. And that’s what you want to see from a young lineman.”
You don’t play as long as Whitworth has and not know what to look for in a good lineman or how they should carry or conduct themselves. The veteran Pro Bowler has pulled aside Noteboom to point out certain things — what he did well, what he could do better — or to offer tips on an assignment or technique. Noteboom has quietly and appreciatively soaked it all in.
You can tell a lot about a guy by not only how he plays, but also how he accepts and processes criticism or advice. And Noteboom has left an impression as a player and a young teammate.
“He’s one of those guys that, honestly, he’s got the right character and attitude to be a really good football player,” Whitworth said.
As Noteboom was leaving the Coliseum on Saturday, he was already thinking about aspects of his performance to focus on in film study. He’ll narrow it down to two or three specific areas and then work on them in practice. Off the top of his head, he said he wants to get a better command of the playbook so he can play more freely rather than thinking so much. That’s easier said than done when you’re cross-training at three different positions, but as he showed against the Raiders, Noteboom is handling everything the Rams are putting on his plate.
“It’s all there for what you need to be successful,” Whitworth said. “He has the talent and all the things needed to be a good player. He just has to keep progressing.”
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