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October 15, 2018 at 6:52 pm in reply to: daring the Rams to run (VB & Salfino on the Denver game) #92404
znModeratorMcVay Continues Self-Criticism Over Play Calls
Myles Simmons
https://www.therams.com/news/mcvay-continues-self-criticism-over-play-callsOctober 15, 2018 at 12:50 am in reply to: reporters on the Denver game (articles, vids, tweets) #92381
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
#Broncos openly admitted they were basically hoping the Rams ran the ball hoping to slow down the pass game The Rams did, but not as much as they should/could have.Sean McVay was frustrated with himself not calling a better game to better take advantage of the Broncos approach. Not all coaches hold themselves that accountable. One thing to remember, though: McVay is 32. This is his fourth year calling plays. He’ll learn.
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Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
No one rips Sean McVay like Sean McVay, who said, “The cold didn’t dictate any of the decisions, as far as play selection. If anything, the cold might have just affected my brain, with some of the decisions I made.”October 15, 2018 at 12:50 am in reply to: reporters on the Denver game (articles, vids, tweets) #92380
znModeratorTodd Gurley was dressed for cold weather after a career-best performance in which he simply ran right through it. https://t.co/rO4IGZxtpj
— Gary Klein (@LATimesklein) October 15, 2018
October 15, 2018 at 12:48 am in reply to: reporters on the Denver game (articles, vids, tweets) #92379
znModeratorBrrrrrrrr: Frigid conditions don't stop Rams in 23-20 win. https://t.co/jNzBM5oXfE
— AP NFL (@AP_NFL) October 15, 2018
October 15, 2018 at 12:45 am in reply to: reporters on the Denver game (articles, vids, tweets) #92378
znModeratorRams’ defense stifles Denver run game, but questions remain in secondary https://t.co/DYxPoB08yk
— RamsNewsNow (@RamsNewsNow) October 15, 2018
October 15, 2018 at 12:41 am in reply to: reporters on the Denver game (articles, vids, tweets) #92376
znModeratorTodd Gurley got the glory Sunday, but the Rams' offensive line looked like steamrollers. Here's my game story: https://t.co/IWcq3LnUKw
— Rich Hammond (@Rich_Hammond) October 15, 2018
znModeratorOctober 14, 2018 at 11:43 pm in reply to: reporters on the Denver game (articles, vids, tweets) #92373
znModeratorGame Recap: Gurley Rushes for 200, Rams Down Broncos 23-20
https://www.therams.com/news/game-recap-gurley-rushes-for-200-rams-down-broncos-23-20
Gurley runs for 208 yards in Rams’ 23-20 win over Broncos
http://www.espn.com/nfl/recap?gameId=401030773
Todd Gurley’s 2 touchdowns, 208 rush yards are most for Rams since 2001
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24984111/todd-gurley-rushes-personal-best-208-yards-sunday
Seven Stats: Rams Beat the Broncos 23-20 in Denver
https://www.therams.com/news/seven-stats-rams-beat-the-broncos-23-20-in-denver
October 14, 2018 at 8:48 pm in reply to: reporters on the Denver game (articles, vids, tweets) #92365
znModeratorMyles Simmons@MylesASimmons
Fourth-quarter touchdownless streak is over. Keenum to Thomas in the back of the end zone gets sixRams allowed 60 yards rushing on 17 attempts, good for just 3.5 yards per carry. DEN entered today’s game No. 1 averaging 5.6 YPC.
J.B. Long @JB_Long
I’d like to believe that if the season ended today, @robertwoods would be a surefire Pro Bowler. He was a monster again today. #LARamsRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Cooper Kupp said Rams held him out in second half for precaution. He will get more tests tomorrow. McVay didn’t give much of an update on Saffold, who likely will get more tests on his knee tomorrow.Julia Faron@JFaron
DT Aaron Donald sacked Denver’s Case Keenum for a loss of 14 yards. Donald has 4.0 sacks this season and 43.0 career.Sam Farmer@LATimesfarmer
real MVP for Rams, apparently, is Mr. Miagi, who slapped his hands together and rubbed Cooper Kupp’s knee.October 14, 2018 at 8:46 pm in reply to: reporters on the Denver game (articles, vids, tweets) #92364
znModeratorTodd Gurley became the Rams' first 200-yard rusher since Marshall Faulk in 2001 https://t.co/QIT894BWTO
— The MMQB (@theMMQB) October 15, 2018
October 14, 2018 at 8:32 pm in reply to: reporters on the Denver game (articles, vids, tweets) #92362
znModeratorStuds and duds from the Rams' 23-20 win over Denver on Sunday: https://t.co/9a2aqaO7wM
Also, sick pic alert 🚨 pic.twitter.com/I1pO8HMGk6
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) October 15, 2018
October 14, 2018 at 8:23 pm in reply to: reporters on the Denver game (articles, vids, tweets) #92361
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
Rodger Saffold questionable with a knee
Andrew Whitworth down…Noteboom inThe #Rams are down to backups at so many positions it’s hard to keep track. Just a reminder of why “get the win, get out of town” is so important. Style points are great, but it’s all about the W
Joe Curley@vcsjoecurley
Jared Goff completed 14 of 28 passes for 201 yards and an interception. The third-year quarterback was held without a touchdown pass for the first time since the loss in Minnesota last November.J.B. Long@JB_Long
“I’ve gotta be better for our team.”
-Sean McVay, taking the blame for what he called bad play-calling decisions that kept his @RamsNFL from putting Week 6 out of reach.Have to think he’s talking about leaving Goff in position to be sacked twice in plus-territory with 4Q lead.
Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
The Rams held off a late push from the Broncos and improved to 6-0 with a 23-20 victory Sunday inside a frigid Broncos Stadium at Mile High. Todd Gurley set a new career high in rushing yards with 208. While the defense showed improvement in stopping the run, vulnerabilities appeared at cornerback as Aqib Talib remains on injured reserve.Downtown Rams@DowntownRams
Well it’s not all going to be pretty when you play in Seattle and Denver back-to-back.ESPN Stats & Info@ESPNStatsInfo
Todd Gurley now has 11 TD this season, the most through 6 games since Shaun Alexander had 12 in 2005 for the Seahawks.Alexander won MVP that season.
And there is more!
Gurley has the Rams’ first 200-yard rushing game since Marshall Faulk in Dec. 2001 against the Panthers
Brian Cummings@B_inShortsville
Rams fan fretted when Ogletree walked in free agency, but Littleton has been fantastic. He’s their Matt Milano, stuffing the stat sheet.==
This season Todd Gurley leads NFL in:
• Rush yds (623)
• Rush TD (9)
• Scrimmage yds (870)
• Scrimmage TD (11)Since being drafted in 2015, Gurley leads NFL in:
• Rush yds (3,919)
• Rush TD (38)
• Scrimmage yds (5,469)
• Scrimmage TD (46)So…he’s pretty good #Rams
— NFL Research (@NFLResearch) October 14, 2018
znModeratorRich Hammond: It’s actually kind of nice and calming. Cold, though.
Southern Californians in snow.

znModeratorBut there’s still things we DONT know about Goff. How well can he play under playoff pressure, in the clutch, etc.
I said the same thing about Kurt, until he went thru the playoffs.
Why don’t you just move in with Jared Goff if you hate the North Koreans so much.
And someone bring me my coffee.
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znModeratorSOME MORE
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> The Rams have a lot of key players injured on both sides of the ball. They only just edged past the Seahawks (who we have already beaten). Broncos to win easily 34-16.
> Love your optimism. In what fashion does Denver score 34 points?
> 3 rows back from the field i will be and i can’t wait to at least see the best in the nfl. i will still be rooting for the broncos the whole game.
> Potentially a snow game. I hope that the weather finally forces us to stick to the run. The run game has been dominant, yet the coaching staff refuses to have it be the focal point. Get Freeman and Lindsey more touches and make sure Booker is waiting on the bench to greet them with hot chocolate after Touchdown runs. That is the only way to win.
> Snow would be amazing, we might actually have a chance if it snows .
> Rams are going to hang 70 points on this Team while Case throws 4 ints!!
> I doubt any game could be any worse than the Jets game, but at this point nothing negative about this team surprises me either. Those of you who are consistently shocked at how badly we lose haven’t been paying attention.
> Onward and downward.
> If there is a weakness in this solid Rams team it’s at linebacker and their run defense. We have to run run run to have any chance to win.
> Prediction: Keenum throws 3 touchdown passes: 2 for the Rams, 1 for the Broncos.
> Prediction, Case passes for 400 yds all between the 20’s. We get 100 yds rushing in the 4th qtr, lose handily.
> I see this as either a blowout loss that finally causes heads to roll (41-10 ish) or a hard fought win where we get some strange breaks and win 27-24 causing people to say “but we beat the Rams!” As a reason to keep the staff together during the implosion that seems to be inevitable.
> 35 degrees and snow is the Broncos only advantage. Hopefully they keep it 1 score game and then get lucky bounces.
> Not much of an advantage, Keenum doesn’t play well in the snow or anything non-domed. Knowing Musgrave there are going to be over 40 pass plays the second were behind by a single point.
> You seem to forget the Rams have Todd Gurley as their feature. He’s nearly as good as our top two RBs are combined.
> aaaand Brandin Cooks and Cooper Kupp are expected to play for the rams….
> We are truly nothing .
> I kind of like the fact that we’re a home dog though, for the second straight home game. No pressure that way.
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znModeratorEven as the Rams seek balance, Todd Gurley will keep doing it all
znModeratorfrom Scouting the enemy: Los Angeles Rams
https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/10/13/17971810/denver-broncos-los-angeles-rams-preview
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A quick glance the Rams’ offense
Last week the Broncos’ defense was destroyed by the New York Jets, who entered last week’s affair having one of the league’s worst offenses. On Sunday that same defense who put up a disastrous effort will be going up against a much more formidable high-powered Rams offense that is one of the league’s best. But hey, maybe we can find a little hope that they will be slowed down a tad with a forecast of several inches of snow for the game, right folks?
The Rams went out and hired rising star and offensive mastermind Sean McVay in 2017. In his first year as their head coach, he was a key cog in revamping the league’s worst offense from 2016 (in points and yards) to the league’s number one scoring offense and tenth ranked in respect to total yards. Now that is a hell of a turn around! The Rams’ offensive success has continued five games into the 2018 season and is third in points scored (averaging nearly 35 points per contest) and tops in yards produced (468 yards per game).
The offense is led by Jared Goff, who is completing an impressive 72 percent of his passes and has 1,727 yards and 12 touchdowns on the season with only 4 interceptions. The wide receiver trio of Cooper Kupp, Robert Woods and the offseason trade acquired Brandin Cooks are lethal. Each of them has 26 receptions and 400 yards or more and often make their living operating in the middle of the field — giving the Rams arguably the best trio of receivers in the league. Their feature back and perhaps their best offensive player is running back Todd Gurley, who already has nearly 650 all-purpose yards and 9 touchdowns on the season in 120 total touches.
While their offense doesn’t utilize the tight end much, those five players are much better than anything the Jets had to offer talent-wise last week and you saw what they did to the Broncos. Therefore, it’s hard to come up with any imaginable scenario where the Broncos will be able to keep them all in check, unless they have a defensive outing like they did against the Kansas City Chiefs, sans the disastrous fourth quarter.
znModeratorMarcus Peters is not afraid – of success or occasionally getting burned in pursuit of it. Look for a big bounce-back game from the #Rams CB Sunday. Here is what else to watch for when the Rams play the #Broncos in my story for @TheAthleticLA 👇👇 https://t.co/ifGFRrnIcT
— Vincent Bonsignore (@VinnyBonsignore) October 13, 2018
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What to watch for in Rams vs. Broncos: Can Marcus Peters bounce back?
Vincent Bonsignore
DENVER — To locate the space Marcus Peters occupies inside the Los Angeles Rams locker room, one only needs to listen for the voice.
It is distinctive, sharp and filled with pride and bravado. It’s pretty much omnipresent. Peters, after all, likes to engage with teammates, and if you’re anywhere near his middle locker alongside fellow defensive backs and linebackers, you’re going to get an earful.
About anything and everything.
Like the day he told everyone — loudly — that if he was constructing a football team made up of NBA players, Russell Westbrook would be one of his defensive backs. A short while later, he explained how he could be a productive NBA player averaging 12-13 points a game. Not due to some great scoring prowess, but because he’d willingly do all the dirty work.
“I’m gonna play defense, so I’ll get playing time,” Peters declared. “I’ll rebound. Set picks. I’ll do all that stuff. The points will come.”
Everyone howled, mostly in complete disagreement of Peters’ claim. Others voiced their support.
The point is, everyone in the Rams locker room was connected. And it was Peters keeping everyone together, on this occasion, by loudly and confidently putting himself out there far enough to invite a reaction.
The fact that most of it was laughter, rolled eyes and pointed rebuttals didn’t matter. Peters is pretty fearless in that regard.
That fearlessness is often times expressed in his play. He can be a bit of a gambler. He is aggressive, and, coupled with an uncanny ability to dissect plays and concepts — or just sense things other cornerbacks can’t — Peters is going to act on it.
That’s one of the reasons why Peters is someone to watch when the Rams play the Broncos in Denver on Sunday (1:05 p.m. PT, FOX). After struggling against the Seattle Seahawks last week, Peters needs to bounce back to show he is completely healthy from the calf strain he suffered in Week 3 against the Chargers.
While his extreme confidence and risk taking has served him well for most of his young career — his 20 interceptions over his first four-plus seasons are the most in the NFL over that stretch as are his three pick-six touchdown returns — it’s also put him in position to get beat. That was the case in Seattle when he got caught peeking at Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson and yielded two touchdown passes.
“I got beat,” Peters said owning the mistakes. “I gotta keep my eyes on there, you feel me?”
It’s worth noting Peters rebounded from those negative plays. His coverage helped the Rams defense force the Seahawks off the field on two critical fourth-quarter possessions, giving the Rams offense the necessary time to take the lead and eventually run out the clock.
The key was not to dwell on the bad plays. Peter has had the ability to quickly brush off negatives since childhood.
“(I’ve) had the ‘fuck it’ syndrome for a long time,” Peters explained. “Ever since I was a little kid. My mom was like, ‘Yeah, he’s just gonna, that’s just him. When he says fuck it, it’s fuck it.’ But it’s part of the game, man. I learned that trait early in my career. Shit like that don’t bother me. I go out there and just try to get some shit done.”
“That’s something that you even notice when you watch the tape that you like so much,” Rams head coach Sean McVay said. “I think, especially when you really look at it, the quarterback and the cornerback positions — if you’re going to be a really good player over the course of time in this league, you better be able to handle bad plays because they’re inevitable. You show me anybody that’s been a great player in this league, [and] I’ll show you somebody that’s responded from some form of adversity, been able to make plays after things that didn’t always go their way.
“But also, the thing that says as much about anything is the ownership he displays,” McVay added. “Being able to say, ‘That’s my bad. I’ll get that fixed.’ Taking that extreme ownership that we talk about, demonstrating that accountability, and he’s a fearless competitor. You always want guys that never fear failure.”
It’ll be interesting to see how Peters approaches Sunday’s game against the Broncos, both from a health perspective and the balancing of instinctual playmaking with his assignment in the coverage call.
“Well, he’s one of those guys that’s special in that he sees so many things and he can diagnose routes and those kinds of things. You don’t want to take that away from him,” Rams defensive coordinator Wade Phillips said. “But you also don’t want him peeking too much in certain situations. That’s why I say that’s partly me. We’ve got to get him, system-wise, into how we want things done.”
As the Rams look to go 6-0, here are some other things to keep an eye on.Todd Gurley vs. Broncos defense
It’s hard not to notice the 323 yards rushing the Broncos surrendered to the New York Jets last week. Or wonder how much Todd Gurley is licking his chops in anticipation of going to work against the Denver run defense.
“Yeah, definitely aware,” Gurley said.
The reigning Offensive Player of the Year has 415 rushing yards and seven running touchdowns through five games. He has eclipsed the 100-yard mark twice and is averaging 4.1 yards per carry. He also has 19 receptions for 230 yards and another two scores.
Is this the week he goes off? The stats suggest so, as the Broncos are giving up 139.9 yards per game on the ground — third-worst in the NFL — and are about to confront the league’s best offensive line and arguably its best running back.
Or do those two factors raise such a red flag for the Broncos that they put all their resources into stopping Gurley and take their chances against Jared Goff and the passing game?
“They have a great head coach themselves. I’m pretty sure that’s his objective to get that run defense a little better,” Gurley said of the Broncos’ Vance Joseph. “Obviously, they know we’re going to run the ball. So you definitely get excited, but you don’t get too excited because a team can look like that one week and then the next week can shut a guy down for 50 yards. But that’s why we play this game. We practice and go out there and hopefully execute.”The health of Brandin Cooks and Cooper Kupp
Last week in Seattle, the Rams lost two of their best receivers in the first half to concussions. While Brandin Cooks and Cooper Kupp checked off all the concussion protocol boxes this week and are on target to play against the Broncos, at what level will they play?
McVay said it will be full steam ahead with both players after getting final clearance from the Rams medical staff.
“If it’s something where there’s anything that doesn’t check up or make it feel like, ‘Hey, they’re going to be fully acclimated, they’re ready to go and there are no restrictions,’ it wouldn’t be something where these guys would go,” McVay said. “Unfortunately, this game does involve a bunch of different potential collisions like that, but I think those guys are great competitors and I don’t think there’s any sort of fear.
“You always want to put them in smart spots, too,” McVay added. “It’s not like we’re going to try to ask them to do a bunch of different things that leave them susceptible to injury. But I don’t think you can also be cautious with it because then I think that’s when you almost leave yourself potentially getting injured as is anyway.”The weather conditions at Mile High
The middle of October in Denver is unlike anywhere else. You can probably say that about any month in this part of Colorado. But this time of year, in particular, can be a bit erratic. Like the snow that’s expected on Sunday to go along with an expected high of 27 degrees and lows of 21.
In other words, the Rams’ first road trip outside the West Coast should be a doozy.
“If it is going to be cold, [you] try to stay warm and do your best,” quarterback Jared Goff said. “I know that equipment will get us ready with a lot of stuff. Can’t really replicate that weather [in Los Angeles] too well. Right now, it’s pretty nice. So if it is cold, we’ll play in it and if it’s not we’ll play in it and adjust accordingly.”
It’s understandable to think the Rams might play a bit more conservatively to compensate for the conditions — which might mean a bit more run emphasis. But keep in mind Cooks played last year in blustery New England, Kupp played collegiately in Eastern Washington, which can get frosty late in the year, and Robert Woods played three seasons in Buffalo. All three Rams wide receivers have experience playing and performing in the cold.
And does anyone really think McVay, one of the most aggressive and creative play callers in the game, is going to be intimidated by some cold weather?
Me neither.
znModeratorfrom PFF: 2018 NFL Week 6 spread picks
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-pff-forecast-2018-nfl-week-6-spread-picks
LOS ANGELES RAMS AT DENVER BRONCOS (OVER/UNDER 52)
Prediction: Rams 32-26 (the over hits)Point (EE): While “Case Keenum” and “Over” don’t necessarily grace the same page of my thesaurus, the Rams defense has a ways to go before they aren’t allowing enough points to entice their offense into putting up 40 themselves in an effort to be convincing in their sixth-consecutive win to start the season. Marcus Peters has not transitioned out west very well, allowing the 12th-most yards into his coverage of any cornerback in the league. If that were the worst showing so far this season in this game, that would be something. However, Denver cornerback Bradley Roby has given up the seventh-most yards into his coverage. Jared Goff, generating 0.42 expected points every time he drops back, should be able to firmly bury the myth of the great Denver Broncos defense and put up their end of the bargain in the altitude.
Counterpoint (GC): The Rams defense is not what everyone hoped it would be entering the season, and no surprise that the coverage is to blame. With Aqib Talib on IR and Peters on the field, the Rams have allowed 10 passes completed 20-plus yards past the line of scrimmage (tied for fourth). The Broncos at home are a different team and showed that they can put up some points against sub-par coverage units (see Chiefs, Kansas City), with a quintet of wide receivers and generationally-talented running backs. On the other side of things, the Rams offense with or without their top two receivers is not to be messed with – they have yet to score less than 33 points in a game and the passing attack leads the NFL in expected points added per play by a wide margin. Light it up in Denver, literally why people go there to begin with.
znModeratorRams opposition research: Breaking down the Broncos https://t.co/QvVBMYQOIr
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) October 13, 2018
znModeratorA Seattle guy dissects how bad Peters was.
Seahawks on tape: @MattyFBrown takes a look at the game vs the Rams to understand/show why Marcus Peters was getting beat so badly by Tyler Lockett and what it has to do with Seattle’s use of play action (finally) https://t.co/SuductoBoI
— Field Gulls (@FieldGulls) October 12, 2018
znModeratorI think they didn’t have to address it before because before, the opposing teams were forced to abandon the run. Plus the Vikes can’t run against anyone.
Just some numbers to hang on that point.
Raiders: 26 carries for 140 yards but they got behind and stopped running Lynch in the 2nd half. Lynch had 11 carries in the game and only 4 in the 2nd half. Raiders ran in the 2nd half 8 times and 3 were when they were down by 20 with under 2 minutes to go.
Cards: 15 carries for 54 yards.
Chargers: 20 carries for 141 yards and only 11 in the 2nd half.
Vikes: 17 carries total for 54 yards and only 3 in the 2nd half. 4 of those 17 runs are by Cousins. But then for the season Minn is 31st in rushing attempts, 31st in rushing yards, and 29th in yards per carry.
Seattle: 32 carries for 190 yards, and none of those are by Wilson. Seattle rushed 17 times in the second half, the most of anyone the Rams have faced.
znModeratori’m not sold yet.
Hi. What are you not sold on? That it was all gap stuff? Or are you not sold that they will fix the gap stuff? (I don’t have an answer, just curious what you are saying.)
I think they didn’t have to address it before because before, the opposing teams were forced to abandon the run. Plus the Vikes can’t run against anyone. Seattle was the one game so far where the other team came out and said we will run at you the whole game and keep it close.
znModeratorNick Kendell@NickKendellMHH
The #Broncos have a top 3 run blocking OL based on yards before contact & a top 10 pass blocking OL based on snaps under pressure percentage.It’s not that the line couldn’t improve, it could, but blaming the OL for this team is so 2016.
znModeratorI wonder if the main issue with the Rams run defense is a tendency for Donald and Suh to abandon their gap responsibilities in an effort to get to the passer?
This turned out to be a big topic in Ramsdom because the Rams addressed it during the game and then VB took it up as an issue. The whole gap discipline thing.
So, how significant is it? Denver is 3rd in rushing yards and 1st in yards per carry. They’re playing at home against a leaky run defense. In the snow.
If the Rams can make any progress with this kind of thing, now’s the time to start. Otherwise we’re looking at another 2000. This time with a Dream Team defense.
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znModeratorRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Crowdsourcing question: Does anyone remember the last time they saw the Rams play in snow? I cannot find one on game sheets, going back through the 80s.J.B. Long@JB_Long
Greg Zuerlein the only member of #LARams ruled out for Sunday in Denver.==

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znModeratorBroncos Country expects a full on meltdown in Week 6
https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/10/12/17966660/broncos-fans-expects-a-full-on-meltdown-in-week-6
Injury Report 10/12: Cooks, Kupp Both Expected to Play vs. Broncos
https://www.therams.com/news/injury-report-10-12-cooks-kupp-both-expected-to-play-vs-broncos
With Broncos Offensive Strengths, Rams Must Play Gap-Sound Run Defense on Sunday
Game Preview: Rams Head to Denver to Take on Broncos
https://www.therams.com/news/game-preview-rams-continue-road-stint-against-the-denver-broncos
How to stop the Rams? Follow these five keys
http://www.espn.com/blog/denver-broncos/post/_/id/32061/how-to-stop-the-rams-follow-these-five-keys
znModeratorCould you link that board, too? Thanks.
znModeratorit’s hard to say. things are muddled with all the new rules.
but i can safely say of the rams qbs i’ve seen. he’s better than bradford.
same with banks….
i can’t say for sure, but i think he’s better than bulger. i know he hasn’t won a playoff game, but it’s only a matter of time.
trent green never had enough time with the rams to qualify.
that comes down to warner. with the rams he only had three strong years. but those were three glorious years. he hasn’t quite gotten there, and there’s no guarantee he will.
as for the nfl. too early to tell. ask again after year 5.
There’s Everett too.
I guess the big list of qualifiers (since 78) is
Warner
Everett
Bulger
Ferragamo
Bradford
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