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znModeratorJust a different view.
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He tested out of the stratosphere at the combine. He basically tested against Evan Engram to a standstill. The problem I had with Everett was that his draft position was always based on potential.
He played 1 year of HS football after being a standout basketball player. He went on to play JuCo football for a year, then a year at Alabama-Birmingham and then 2 at South Alabama.
I had him as a willing blocker, but for whatever reason, the Rams don’t run as much with Everett. I have no idea why, but if I were to guess, its because the Rams are not comfortable using him in that role.
He was never a good route runner, and his routes still leave a lot to be desired. Way too much rounding.
The last concern was a rumor that he couldn’t digest a whole NFL playbook. Well, he sure couldn’t in year 1. That seemed pretty obvious. He couldn’t get on the field as a 2nd round pick and only Higbee in front of him. I really wonder if he is just thinking way too much and its getting in the way of his freakish speed and athleticism?
I was high on him but he is coming into year 3 and its time to get busy living or get busy dying. To quote Red from Shawshank
znModeratorReport: Jared Cook is committed to Saints, won't reconsider the Patriots now that Gronk is retired https://t.co/PZXxQIsZB1
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) March 25, 2019
March 25, 2019 at 9:13 pm in reply to: The surprising rankings of best and worst NFL teams at drafting #99290
znModeratorAlbaNY_Ram
How well do the Rams draft?
Here’s a site that says they’re 4th best in the NFL from 2013 thru 2017 behind the Cowboys, Chiefs, and Vikings. https://nypost.com/2018/04/21/giants-jets-cant-crack-top-10-most-successful-teams-at-draft/ Their criteria: “The rankings are based on: how many games the draft pick has played, Pro Bowl appearances, first-team All-Pro selections and awards like MVP and Rookie of the Year. We also factored in how much the team has won during the five years, because players on losing teams tend to have an easier path to playing time.” <my note: 2018 isn’t included in this evaluation, but the Rams drafted 10 players last year – in rounds 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 7 – and all 10 are currently on the Rams’ roster>
This site looks at 2012 thru 2016 and lists the Rams at #7. https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2017/04/28/which-nfl-teams-have-been-the-best-and-worst-at-drafting/#1b2f56925dcd Their criteria: “To determine the NFL’s best-drafting teams we first started with a list of the last five draft classes. From there we pulled each drafted player’s career Approximate Value, a statistic calculated by Pro-Football-Reference.com that attempts to quantify a player’s on-field performance in a way that can be compared across positions …”
The Rams are 6th on this site for 2012-2016. https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/nfl-draft-teams-picks-draft-records-ranked-2012-present-030117 Their criteria: “… teams scored 5 points for Pro Bowl player (when the nomination occurred while on the team’s roster), 3 points for a 2016 starter and 1 point for a 2016 rostered player (IR counts). Additional Pro Bowl nods earned and extra point and players traded or lost for value (trades or compensatory picks) yield a point, too.”
When I ask myself why the Rams get such little respect for their drafting success it generally boils down to unrealistic expectations. This article titled “Most NFL Draft Picks Are Busts” does a good job of analyzing draft success over a 20 year period. In it, their data shows that 69% of all draft picks are poor, useless, or never even played with the team. https://www.dailynorseman.com/2017/4/12/15274148/most-nfl-draft-picks-are-busts
znModeratorGary Klein@LATimesklein
Asked Larry Fitzgerald about Eric Weddle & Clay Matthews join Rams: “I was sad to see those guys go there,” he said, grinning. “I was hoping they were going to go the AFC West. I don’t like to see anybody in the NFC West improve besides the Cardinals. I wasn’t happy about it.”
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
I get asked a lot about #Rams uniforms. It’s an ongoing process and #Rams are working closely with Nike and the #NFL on it. The plan is to launch the new look next year.—
The Lions GM on their efforts to sign Malcolm Brown https://t.co/qcuN9tYSRN
— Ryan Kartje (@Ryan_Kartje) March 25, 2019
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Jared Goff's progression suggests that he will continue to improve heading into his 4th season in 2019
Grades in his 3 seasons (Rank):
2018: Offensive Grade of 85.5 (8th); Passing Grade of 84.3 (8th)
2017: OFF 73.8 (15th); PASS 73.3 (16th)
2016: OFF 42.9 (65th); PASS 42.9 (66th) pic.twitter.com/YYgzWtQsdf— PFF LA Rams (@PFF_Rams) March 25, 2019
znModeratorA note on tweets for 3/25—if what you want from twitter is dozens times dozens of tweets noting Gronkowski’s retirement by effusively praising him, today’s your day. Best TE ever, kind of day. It’s like showing up at the store on black Friday when really all you wanted was to buy some paper towels.
I respect Gronk, and, not interested.
March 25, 2019 at 12:42 am in reply to: RAMS draft…articles, vids etc. on just the Rams draft #99275
znModeratorDeadpool
Some Follow-up
In a scenario where OCs McCoy and Bradbury are off the board and so is OT Dillard. Burns, Allen, Sweat, Ferrell and Bosa are gone at edge, the top 3 CBs (Murphy, Williams and Baker) are gone and you cannot trade down, who are you taking?
Its a scenario I could see happening. Here would be my top names as legitimately available players:
Dexter Lawrence – I’m a big fan of his as a football player, not as a fit in a 1 gap penetrating NT in Phillips defense.
Mack Wilson – I have a feeling I am the only one that has him as a first round pick. He certainly could replace Barron.
Noah Fant – I do think the Rams like him alot, I am not sold they would use such a high pick on another TE
Devin Bush – He weighed in heavier then I tohught he would and had a great combine. I don’t think he gets to the Rams, he could and is he a fit?
Chris Lindstrom – He’s a fit at LG, and left guard only.
Jeffery Simmons – a draft and semi-stash penetrating IDL that could look great next to AD. Off field red flags
Jachai Polite – he is by far and away the most dynamic pass rushing edge left in the draft, his red flags about work ethic and lockerroom presence is not good.
Chase Winovich – He is a 3 down edge that gives you flexibility in that he can stand up or put his hand in the dirt. And he can defend the run.
Jerry Tillery – another IDL that has some personality red flags and a hot/cold motor, but his talent is undeniable…
Amani Oruwariye – the 4th CB in the draft, a bigger kid at 6′-2″ 205 lbs. A press man candidate for sure.
To me, Lawrence and Lindstrom aren’t true fits. Tillery and Polite are off the board due to red flags. Wilson is a reach. Winovich and Oruwariye are minor reaches. That leaves an injured and red flagged Simmons, a tad undersized LBer in Bush, and Fant. If those were my 10 options. i think I reach with Winovich. But I also think the Rams look long and hard at offensive weapons like Fant or a WR or Jacobs.
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znModeratorNew members of the Rams coaching staff are quickly learning McVay’s culture
The Rams added to their coaching staff not long after season’s end, bringing on assistant quarterbacks coach Zac Robinson from his previous stop as an analyst at Pro Football Focus and adding a brand-new defensive line coach in Eric Henderson, who was formerly with the Chargers.
The pair joins the Rams ahead of year three in the Sean McVay era. And for both coaches, the club’s culture is palpable.
“The energy around here is phenomenal and it’s contagious,” Henderson said a few weeks after moving just north L.A. “When you walk into this building, I’m telling you there is a different feeling and to be a part of something like that and bring the energy that I already have, I think it’s just a great mesh and I’m excited about that.”
Henderson, who speaks from experience as a former staff member in both the professional and college ranks, is joined in excitement by his first-time professional coach counterpart, who’s been away from the NFL since 2012.
“I’m fired up about being on a team,” Robinson said. “You always miss the competitiveness and being around a team and working toward a goal, so being a part of that again is what I am fired up about.”
The former analyst said he’s enjoyed seeing McVay’s offensive operation centered on quarterback Jared Goff up close and is looking forward to the chance to be a part of it.
“You can tell that everybody in this thing together and the ‘We Not Me’ philosophy, it’s preached and it’s acted out by everybody throughout the building,” Robinson said. “I’m excited to just keep learning from those guys and you can see why they are having success here, it’s because they are smart guys that are all in it together and work really hard.”
znModeratorTo give you an idea of how unique a player Gronk was, here's a list of players with 500+ catches who averaged 15+ yards per catch, ranked in order of their weight. You just don't see 265-pound guys who can make plays downfield like that. Matchup nightmare. (via @pfref) pic.twitter.com/VRA80Yd3PR
— Michael David Smith (@MichaelDavSmith) March 24, 2019
znModeratorThe Chargers gonna claim it's "their house" while playing in a giant Rams logo. 😂😂😂 pic.twitter.com/mPKiTU7zBc
— fightforSD (@fightforsd) March 24, 2019
znModeratorRob Gronkowski announces retirement from NFL. MORE: https://t.co/buij5bVt0y pic.twitter.com/A8UGkPBzRQ
— TSN (@TSN_Sports) March 24, 2019
znModeratorDeadpool
McVay:
“I think when you go back and you look at our tape and say, ‘alright where are some areas that we could be better as coaches, starting out, but what are some of the nuances from a skillset that we are looking for, whether it’s from a receiver, tight end, or running back,” McVay said a day before free agency hit. “In a lot of instances it’s playmakers and guys that can do different things and have a versatile skill set whether it be running back, tight end, or receiver.”
If McVay is serious (and it is lying season) about adding a player that creates explosives, in the first round it comes down to 3 players.
As far as what can the coaches be better at, to me that is Redzone scoring and utilizing more then 11 personnel. To me a TE or big bodied WR solve some of those issues. A running back doesn’t solve any of that, esp. since a healthy Gurley didn’t.
But lets look at that last sentence, since it talks specifically about players. Who are playmakers in this draft that are versatile and do different things that fit what the Rams do.
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Fant – versatility: He played out wide, he played in-line and flexed into the backfield. There isn’t a spot of the field he cannot play. His speed and explosiveness make him an automatic mismatch and he is at his best in a vertical offense when he can work the seam. I think he is exactly what the Rams like in a TE.
I still think McVay is terribly disappointed with his TEs. I bet if you asked McVay after his first draft what he expected his starting lineup to be in a year, he would have said, 1 RB, 2 TEs and 2 WRs. And that isn’t even close to fruition 2 years later. He can say what he wants to about how great his WRs block, his offense could really use a TE that at the very least forces defenses to respect the seam
Fant is everything they hoped Everett would develop into, but hasn’t. He plays fast and explosive and then showed up at the combine an only led all TEs in 40 time, vertical leap, 3 cone, broad jump and 60 yard shuttle. And for good measure, finished 6th in bench press. And looked very good in on field work. He’s a seam threat that would force teams to respect our TEs and the middle of the field.
Metcalf – versatility: He is a redzone threat with his size and physicality. He is a vertical threat with his deep speed and he is a playmaker once the ball is in his hands due to his strength and speed. The Rams have no one on the roster with his skill set and size. (not many teams do TBH). He will not be around at 31 unless his neck surgery had some red flags at the medical check at the combine.
I actually could see a scenario where a Metcalf or Harry or even a Harmon or Butler could be added to give the Rams a much needed redzone threat. Do I think that happens? no. Would I be shocked if it happens? no
Josh Jacobs – versatility: He can, run, catch and block. He is not what I would call explosive, and he isn’t a HR threat, but he has very good vision, excellent body control and footwork and is a threat catching the ball. he also has the size to be an every down back and is an excellent kick returner. He also might be there at 31. Honestly I prefer the crop of RBs next year and love the kid from Clemson Eitenne (he is already my #1 back for next year, just add 10 lbs please)
Jacobs is 29th on my 250 player big board. And yeah, my big board is getting the final touches. He would work for what the Rams like in a RB. He can get to the edge (which is important in a wide zone running game). I think the only team that would draft him ahead of the Rams might be the Raiders and they very well could at 27. If the Rams spend a 1 or a 3 on a RB, Gurley’s knees are officially shot.
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Of the 3, only one checks off versatility, explosives (McVays word, not mine) and availability (could they available at 31) and that is Fant. Mtcalf is all those things but probably a top 10 pick, And Jacobs doesn’t create “explosives”.
I don’t think an explosive edge rusher will be available at 31, so thats off the board. I could really see Fant as a target that would legitimately be available. But I think outside Wilkins or Simmons, I really think they are trying to get teams off the scent of their pursuit of a OL. McCoy, Bradbury and Dillard as their target(s).
The only way they pick Fant is if they are comfortable going after a CB later in the draft or worrying about CB next offseason. Same with OL, they might feel they can get a OL that works in the middle of the draft and avoid Bradbury or McCoy (or they are both off the board) and edge is gone. Which I think is very likely and why the Rams made edge a priority in FA. That would leave the Rams free to draft the BPA on their board which could very will be Fant at that point.
znModerator“Mixed results” sounds about right. Something’s afoot with that defense. They did play in the playoffs, but then what changed for that to happen? Did some of the guys finally put in the work? Did Wade finalize a sense who they were and what they could do? Then they let their DL coach go (Bill Johnson), and he came to the Rams with a strong reputation…not sure what that involved. Last year they went for some top physical talents in free agency and trades (Suh, Peters, Fowler); this year they went for savvy vets. Is that a hint of some intention, or is it just a simple difference between the market and cap space last year v. this year? And of course people remark on communication break downs on D last year. Another thing is, they have a long list of LBs coming off of surgeries–Obo, Fox, Ebukam–so we’re not even sure what they have there.
So they played well in the post-season, but then there’s a list of questions.
We expected a lot out of the D last year and never got it until Dallas in the playoffs.
Hard to say whether (or how much) Wade factors into the regular season “downs” but we probably agree you have to give him credit for the post-season “ups.”
March 24, 2019 at 8:06 am in reply to: Why far-right attackers aren’t charged as domestic terrorists #99251
znModeratorin 2009, DHS published a report warning that the political and economic climate was creating a ripe recruitment environment for right-wing extremism, but it was scuttled after Republican outrage.
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain liedEverybody knows, everybody knows
That’s how it goes
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znModerator.@RamsNFL @packers @ClayMatthews52 after a great 10 year run in “TitleTown, USA” is now a #Ram. He played maybe his best game of the year in ‘18 v the Rams; but regardless, lots of good football left in this #Mathews. Welcome home. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/ss8Sglh4No
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) March 24, 2019
znModeratorOne of my favorite 2018 memories @RamsNFL #LARams pic.twitter.com/gLJZUBDrdG
— #LARams 24/7/365 (@WITRandy) March 23, 2019
znModeratorWhitworth on 2019 season: "I can’t wait for it. I’m just looking forward to the opportunity to get out there." https://t.co/nLc0FVnnqK
— RamsNewsNow (@RamsNewsNow) March 24, 2019
znModeratorI like his routine about “we won the war.”
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znModeratorPFF LA Rams@PFF_Rams
Malcolm Brown Grades in 2018 on 125 snaps (compared to all HBs):
– Offense: 83.3 (9th)
– Pass Block: 90.0 (1st)
– Run: 76.5 (27th)
– Run Block: 72.9 (5th)
– Fumble: 82.2 (T-32nd)
– Receiving: 78.3 (T-13th)
znModeratorI wonder if they are going to do something like extend him? That would be one way to create a bit of Cap Space this year and they will need that.
That’s a thought.
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znModeratorThere is a lot of Marcus Peters stuff in Rams tweets.
“My motto is you don’t go into somebody’s community and not give back.”
For @marcuspeters + family, it's all about giving back. The annual @fam1stfam youth football camp was a success! 🙌 pic.twitter.com/aCPVY0RoQl
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) March 23, 2019
“Either it was going to explode or it was going to be good — you feel me?”@marcuspeters shares how the #LARams culture brought together the 2018 team.
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) March 23, 2019
znModeratorClay Matthews was asked about the Packers' loss to the Rams this season…
Then McVay went full savage on him 😂😂😂 @ClayMatthews52 pic.twitter.com/KPp7z20nMR
— The Checkdown (@thecheckdown) March 22, 2019
znModeratorNew @RamsNFL stadium progress in Inglewood, CA. pic.twitter.com/Z4fWPDibwj
— Raza (@mxraza) March 23, 2019
znModeratorWho is the NFL's most formidable defensive duo? 🤔
The @gmfb crew gave their picks 👇 pic.twitter.com/zMDFPz4heO
— NFL Network (@nflnetwork) March 22, 2019
znModeratorArthritis just gets worse, it dont get better, right?
it does not get better.
they have to alter how they use him.
they have to transition to a more pass oriented offense.
goff’s gotta step up.
It can be managed to an extent.
You know there are threads out there where you get attacked if you suggest that the “arthritis” story is anything but click bait.
Granted there is no named source, so it’s not in the category of certain knowledge.
But the team was given chances to deny that was an issue and they wouldn’t, they danced around it. Demoff too.
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znModeratori like the ghost broccoli one best of all. i dunno what that sez about me.
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znModeratorLeft Wing historian Rutger Bregman delivers devastating account of BBC bias after appearance on This Week
The Dutch left-wing Historian, Rutger Bregman – who became a worldwide sensation after a video of him savaging the elites in Davos by telling them to pay their taxes went viral in January – has delivered a truly devastating account of his experience appearing on the BBC political show hosted by Andrew Neil, This Week, on Thursday evening.
In an astonishing exposé of the BBC’s underhand behaviour, Bregman slammed the show as “incredibly stupid” and its guests and presenter as “right-wing dinosaurs”, before essentially claiming that the producers had invited him on to the show under false pretences.
The left-wing historian also slammed the programme by accusing two of its regular guests – former Tory MP Michael Portillo and ex-Labour MP Alan Johnson – of simply making up facts to challenge him, changing the subject every 10 seconds, and constantly interrupting him so he couldn’t get his ideas across.
Bregman’s truly devastating account of his experience on BBC This Week, tweeted to his almost 300k Twitter followers, stated:
“1. Last night, I was invited to be on the BBC show ‘This Week’. I thought that Davos was a bewildering experience, but this beat everything.
2. A bit more background on how incredibly stupid the show really is. First they invite you to talk about your book, and pretend to be really interested in your ideas.
3. Then they ask: ‘Can you make a statement about the European Union?’ Me: ‘No. That’s not my expertise.’ Producer: ‘Can you say something about the terrorist attack in Utrecht?’ Me: ‘No, that’s not my expertise. Didn’t you invite me to talk about my book?’
4. Producer: ‘Yes, we want to get into that. But what do you think about Brexit?’ A couple of hours before the show, they want you to do a video of 2 minutes in which you have to summarise all your ideas. (‘And can you say something about Brexit please?’).
5. When you arrive at the studio, you quickly find out that nobody has actually read your book. The producer, the presenter – they all couldn’t care less. They don’t even have a copy.
6. The show starts. They play the badly edited video, after which three right-wing dinosaurs – two of them politicians from the Stone Age – start teaming up on you. Clearly, not one of them has read a page of your book.
7. They make up facts about inequality (‘hasn’t grown’) and the economy (‘never been better’). They change the subject every 10 seconds. They hardly let you finish a sentence. Then it’s over.
8. This was the worst experience I’ve had with UK media, but after quite a few interviews in different countries, I think I can say that, on average, British journalists are the least curious of all. So often, being ‘critical’ is just a pose.
9. Many are not really engaging with the questions. For example, compare this interview I did with the genuinely curious Trevor Noah in the U.S (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNalEtaaBE4 …), with this interview on BBC Newsnight (https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1948640975365363 …).
10. The good news: there are new media in the UK filling the gap. Smartest questions (and best criticisms) I got this week were from Aaron Bastani of @novaramedia – a tiny startup with really smart, young journalists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSzhg0bJnLo&t=527s … [the end]
11. And to clarify – I think my politics are quite different from those of @novaramedia. I’m not a fan of Corbyn, absolutely don’t identify as a ‘communist’ (trying to save capitalism instead…) etc. But they actually read the book, can’t say that of many other UK journalists.”
If you want to check out just how accurate Bregman’s account of the situation really was, you can watch his appearance on BBC This Week in full below:
Given that the BBC is currently under investigation by Ofcom in relation its declining standards of impartiality, Bregman’s truly shocking account of his treatment at the hands of Britain’s once highly respected public broadcaster will surely do nothing to quell fears that it is slowly becoming nothing more than a Putin-esque propaganda service for the Establishment.
znModeratorLawrence Phillips named biggest draft bust in Rams history https://t.co/TVu0Rv6zui via @theramswire
— RamsNewsNow (@RamsNewsNow) March 23, 2019
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