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March 17, 2020 at 11:55 am in reply to: Rams & free agency … + Cooks & Gurley on trade market? #112456
znModeratorNeither Todd Gurley nor Brandin Cooks are following the Rams on Instagram or Twitter š¤š§
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) March 17, 2020
znModeratorOpinion: Governors are angry at Trump over coronavirus. Thatās ominous. https://t.co/v8NAAExdzr
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) March 17, 2020
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Governors are angry at Trump over coronavirus. Thatās ominous.
Itās being widely reported that President Trump angered some of the nationās governors by telling them on a private call that they should not wait for the federal governmentās help in trying to fill increasing demand for respirators for people diagnosed with the coronavirus.
Iāve learned a bit more about this call, and it may have been worse than what has been reported.
One of the governors ā Michelle Lujan Grisham of New Mexico ā laid into Trump in a sharp, pointed and passionate manner, her communications director, Tripp Stelnicki, told me.
The good news is that Lujan Grisham got results ā or, at least, a promise of more cooperation. According to Stelnicki, Vice President Pence has since called Lujan Grisham and pledged to work with her to supply what she needs to handle the stateās response.
This is ominous, because it underscores the lengths to which governors will have to go to get the help they need from the federal government ā with items that should arguably be no-brainers already at this point in the process.
Trumpās call with governors got some attention after the New York Times reported this startling tidbit:
āRespirators, ventilators, all of the equipment ā try getting it yourselves,ā Mr. Trump told the governors during the conference call, a recording of which was shared with The New York Times.
āWe will be backing you, but try getting it yourselves. Point of sales, much better, much more direct if you can get it yourself.āAccording to the Times, Lujan Grisham told Trump: āIf one state doesnāt get the resources and materials they need, the entire nation continues to be at risk.ā
But according to Lujan Grishamās spokesman, she went further than that. The sticking point for Lujan Grisham was not just over respirators; she told Trump that she needs more processing chemicals from the federal government to carry out testing on the ramped-up scale she wants to see, Stelnicki told me.
And Lujan Grisham, a Democrat, was particularly frustrated by Trumpās seeming disengagement from needs such as these, Stelnicki said.
Still, Stelnicki said that in the end, the fact that Pence got back in touch with Lujan Grisham is cause for optimism.
āShe made the point passionately that we expect access to these things, and Pence said they were going to help get it done,ā Stelnicki told me. He confirmed that the state has 21 confirmed cases of coronavirus and has done around 1,200 tests ā but wants to dramatically expand testing as quickly as possible.
The reason this is so worrisome is that itās now been nearly two months since Trump made his first public comments about coronavirus, on Jan. 22, when he claimed that āwe have it totally under control.ā Yet testing still is lagging horribly behind, some eight weeks later.
Remember, Anthony S. Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases who has functioned as a kind of decoder of the administrationās ongoing response, has conceded that the inability to get testing underway faster was a serious āfailing.ā
And Fauci has even declined to say whether the delayed response may have been responsible for placing us on a path to a spike in coronavirus cases akin to that in Italy, which means it very well might have.
Yet despite all this, governors are still wrangling with the federal government to get the basic supplies needed to ramp up this most basic aspect of our response. Thatās not a good sign, is it?
March 17, 2020 at 10:30 am in reply to: Rams & free agency … + Cooks & Gurley on trade market? #112446
znModeratorSosa K@QBsMVP
Update on a Todd Gurley trade per @TomPelissero. Sounds like the contract, knee, COVID-19 (lack of ability to travel and get a physical done) are all hoops that need to be cleared. Still sounds like the #LARams are motivated to move on from Gurley.==
This has the makings of an ugly breakup. Canāt fault Todd Gurley when he hears how the #Rame are trying everything they can to rid themselves of him… https://t.co/FCh2QeDdE4
— DOWNTOWN RAMS [DTR] (@DowntownRams) March 17, 2020
March 17, 2020 at 4:46 am in reply to: notes from expert panel on the virus & other expert views #112441
znModeratorDr. Rob Davidson@DrRobDavidson
As an ER doc trying to treat patients who may have COVID-19, I can’t underscore enough how much harder the lack of testing is making our job. Yes we’re used to making life-or-death decisions with limited information, daily. But this scenario is very different. Hereās why: (1/12)For us data is everything. Board Certified Emergency Physicians (ER docs) are trained in pattern recognition & rely on research to know when the preponderance of evidence directs us toward one or another path of treatment that could significantly help or harm our patients. (2/12)
With COVID-19, we doctors have very little evidence-based data on the basic science of transmissibility, incubation period or even what measures would be taken to protect patients (& providers). Our best evidence? What has occurred in China, South Korea & Italy thus far… (3/12)
But the difference with these other countries with COVID-19 is that at the earliest point possible, a huge testing regime was used to determine the extent of the virus in the hospitalized āvery sickā population & the “walking wellā less-sick population. We don’t have that. (4/12)
Because this novel #coronavirus causes such minimal symptoms in so many young people (including children) — as well as in older people at the onset of disease — we’re not able to determine cases based on symptoms. This is how we managed the SARS outbreak of 2002-2003. (5/12)
SARS had a case-fatality rate of 10%, but the ability to ID cases early & isolate them significantly, limited its spread and kept fatalities relatively low. By contrast, COVID-19 cases are difficult to ID early above the background level of other respiratory viruses. (6/12)
During the H1N1 influenza pandemic of 2009, the case-fatality rate was 0.1%, slightly higher than seasonal flu. That’s also ~50% less contagious than COVID-19. The point? With a highly contagious virus that’s difficult to diagnose clinically, early testing is critical. (7/12)
Here’s the kicker: WHO had a test that worked, but it was rejected by the U.S. in January. Then, initial attempts to make our own test failed. As a result, as an ER doc I can’t get most patients tested. And it’s now known that the virus has been here for several weeks. (8/12)
To get a patient tested, they have to have traveled to certain countries, had direct contact with a COVID19+ patient, or be ill enough to be hospitalized & have no other diagnosis. There’s no way around it: Tests are being rationed due to the Administration’s mismanagement.(9/12)
Right now we’re not truly defining the extent of the virus in communities. Short of a complete lockdown,we’re dependent on everyone exercising caution when they have even minor symptoms, to avoid infecting those most at risk of dying (elderly & those with chronic disease).(10/12)
The only path forward is a massive testing regime IDāing relatively healthy individuals who are infected.Only then can containment stop the spread in communities. And perhaps the more “walking well” positives we get, the more we can convince people that the threat is real.(11/12)
To be blunt: Our ability to fight this virus has been seriously hurt by right-wing pundits & the President, who convinced people it’s ājust a coldā and will go away ālike that.ā For us ER docs to do our job, those comments need to stop. And massive testing needs to start. /END.
znModeratorin the mid-1980s, an intoxicated Mick Jagger phoned Charlie Watts’ hotel room in the middle of the night asking “Where’s my drummer?”. Watts reportedly got up, shaved, dressed in a suit, put on a tie and freshly shined shoes, descended the stairs, and punched Jagger in the face, saying: “Don’t ever call me your drummer again. You’re my fucking singer!”
znModeratorLife in Italy. You see, no one is panicking. No one is buying a shit ton of groceries and toilet paper. No one is buying anything in bulk. And their whole country is literally on lockdown. Look how peaceful everything is and how calm they are. I hate the US. Lol. pic.twitter.com/hHTbFLJiLB
— .F L ā” R I C E L. (@hopefulxflo) March 14, 2020
March 16, 2020 at 10:57 pm in reply to: Cooks and Gurley traded HOLD ON REPORTS THAT THIS IS FAKE NEWS #112433
znModeratorYeah the consensus is, that’s fake.
March 16, 2020 at 9:16 pm in reply to: NFL announces the start of off-season programs have been delayed #112428
znModeratorThe first indication that the coronavirus outbreak could jeopardize part of the NFLās season: the league distributed talking points to teams about season ticket refunds if games are canceled, @BenFischerSBJ reports. Tonight's newsletter is open to all. https://t.co/PJFRx8OMa2
— John Ourand (@Ourand_SBJ) March 17, 2020
March 16, 2020 at 9:04 pm in reply to: NFL announces the start of off-season programs have been delayed #112427
znModeratorJudy Battista@judybattista
In wake of NFL officially announcing indefinite delay of off-season program, I heard from one team owner. He told me he would be surprised if teams will be able to report any time before training camp.March 16, 2020 at 8:31 pm in reply to: NFL announces the start of off-season programs have been delayed #112424
znModeratorNFL postpones OTAs indefinitely, prohibits free-agent visits https://t.co/Izkcpb86TL
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) March 17, 2020
March 16, 2020 at 6:21 pm in reply to: ARZ trades for Deandre Hopkins, SF trades Buckner to Colts #112413
znModeratorNext Gen Stats@NextGenStats
New Colts DL DeForest Buckner has been one of the most consistent interior DL in the NFL since 2017.Buckner is 1 of 4 interior DL with at least 30+ QB pressures and 30+ defensive stops in each of the last 3 seasons. The others: Aaron Donald, Cameron Heyward & Geno Atkins
Bucky Brooks@BuckyBrooks
A wise defensive coach told me:
pass rush > coverageDisruption at the POA, particularly up the gut, affects the QB more than tight coverage down the field. Colts adding a monster inside to deal with the top QBs in the AFC
Colts get it—you cannot beat Mahomes without inside pressure–its never about coverage, its always about getting into the “paint” this move is all about Mahomes.
March 16, 2020 at 6:14 pm in reply to: Rams & free agency … + Cooks & Gurley on trade market? #112412
znModeratorSosa K@QBsMVP
For the record: I don’t see any way the Rams can cut Gurley. Not because he’s too talented or anything, but strictly the $’s won’t allow them to. They’ll have to find a trade partner of some sort.IIRC: The Rams met with Josh Kelley, Darrynton Evans, and at least Zach Moss pre-draft from the RB group. Now shopping Gurley hard.
Makes a lot of sense to draft a day 3 RB to pair with Darrell Henderson, building a nice stable of backs that can complement each other.
znModeratorJoe Banner@JoeBanner13
Someday teams will stop trading for players without doing extensions. Tunsil and Ramsey should get market breaking deals when they do them as well.March 16, 2020 at 6:00 pm in reply to: ARZ trades for Deandre Hopkins, SF trades Buckner to Colts #112410
znModeratorAdam Schefter@AdamSchefter
Trade AND deal: Colts trade first-round pick (13th overall) to 49ers for All-Pro DT DeForest Buckner, who already has agreed to a massive contract that pays him $21 million a year and makes him the second-highest paid DT in NFL history behind only Aaron Donald, sources tell ESPN.March 16, 2020 at 5:43 pm in reply to: Rams & free agency … + Cooks & Gurley on trade market? #112409
znModeratorNFL@uSTADIUM
Sources: Rams Talking with Teams About Brandin Cooks
The Rams are shopping WR Brandin Cooks and have had at least 3 teams call with interest. He could be moved in the coming days.Michael Silver@MikeSilver
Another big-name player whose name is coming up in trade talks: Rams RB Todd Gurley. As I reported in December, the team may be ready to move on.Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
Mike Silver said on NFL Network that the Rams could wind up cutting Todd Gurley if they can’t find a trade partner.“If you want Todd Gurley, call the Rams.”
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Todd Gurley lovers, it might be time to close your eyes and ears. Sounds like the Rams will need to do whatever they have to as they want to move on without Todd Gurley on the roster, per Mike Silver:pic.twitter.com/zsX7AUleRV
— Sosa K (@QBsMVP) March 16, 2020
March 16, 2020 at 2:45 pm in reply to: ARZ trades for Deandre Hopkins, SF trades Buckner to Colts #112405
znModeratorJohn McClain@McClain_on_NFL
DeAndre Hopkins and a fourth round pick go to Cards for David Johnson and a second round pick this year and a fourth round pick next year.Texans didnāt want to re-do Hopkins contract with three years left.
Mike Meltser@MikeMeltser
Violating my own media rule here: the relationship between Bill OāBrien and DeAndre Hopkins was not good, and Iāve heard that from multiple places.My own take: Bill OāBrien hasnāt accomplished enough in his life in football to have a bad relationship with a tremendous player
Mike Tannenbaum@RealTannenbaum
Trading for Hopkins allows the @Cardinals to surround @K1 with a trio of receivers that includes Fitzgerald and Christian KirkThe trade puts AZ in position to take an elite tackle at 8. After allowing 50+ sacks the last 3 seasons protecting Murray should be their top priority
Geoff Schwartz@geoffschwartz
Best top of an OT class in years. Perfect time to need one.ESPN Stats & Info@ESPNStatsInfo
Not many players mean more to their teamās passing offense than DeAndre Hopkins ā he accounted for 29.3% of his teamās catches in 2019, 3rd-highest by any player in the league (behind only Michael Thomas and Christian McCaffrey).March 16, 2020 at 11:43 am in reply to: Rams & free agency … + Cooks & Gurley on trade market? #112403
znModeratorMichael Silver@MikeSilver
Brandin Cooks has been traded twice in his career (Saints to Patriots, Patriots to Rams), with a first-round pick included on each occasion. The 7th-year WR could be traded again this offseason, and it likely wouldn’t take a 1.tonyde
FYI….If the Rams can trade him and designate him a post June trade, Rams save 12 million on this years cap..
znModeratorHis take: athletes are just guinea pigs helping refine steroid use so we can all use them when we’re in our 80s.
Why not just start with guys in their 80s? I mean, when we’re in our 80s, what is there to lose?

znModeratorI never like it when a league adds more playoff teams
Yeah I don’t like any of that stuff much either. It’s just money talking, as was said. And now only one team has a playoff bye. That would mean that in 2018, the Rams would have had to play 2 games instead of 1 before New Orleans. Top seed plays 2 games at most, all the others would have to play 3 total if they make it to the championship game.
Per conference:
week one: 3 games, 6 teams, 1 w/ a bye … 3 teams eliminated
week two: 2 games … 2 teams eliminated
week three: 1 game, 1 team eliminatedBasically, they go through all that just to add one extra playoff game per conference.
znModeratorPeter King@peter_king
Hmmmm … An average of 30 players per team voted no on the CBA, and it passed. Doubt that sentiment just goes away.
znModeratorTim Bontemps@TimBontemps
The NBA has extended its ban on team practices indefinitely, league sources tell ESPN. Players are still able to work out individually at team facilities.
znModeratorThe NFL had a benefit other leagues did not: Its season is not underway or imminent. Any adjustments would not come at the same cost. Despite that, the NFL is moving forward with what looks a lot more like defiance than prudence: https://t.co/cF6g7BPmLI
— Jenny Vrentas (@JennyVrentas) March 16, 2020
znModeratorMarc Stein@TheSteinLine
Important development for sport throughout the country: The CDC just announced it is recommending NO gatherings of 50+ people in the United States for the next EIGHT weeksRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
This, presumably, would delay the start of in-person NFL offseason programs, which is April 20 for most teams. Not to mention the grand spectacle of the NFL draft.
znModeratorRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
The NFL today set its salary-cap ceiling at $198.2 million.Because of carryovers, and money saved from Eric Weddle’s retirement, the Rams’ cap ceiling effectively is $205 million. That’s the important number for them.
March 15, 2020 at 10:10 pm in reply to: just some “no thread for em” various political tweets … 2/25 thru ? #112390
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March 15, 2020 at 9:08 pm in reply to: one traveller’s experience in the current virus crisis #112388
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znModeratorIMO, all the major sports league should downsize their schedules. NBA, MLB and the NFL. But more games tends to mean more money
I’m right there with you. I don’t much like the “grow the brand” approach NFL owners are taking now. I much preferred the older view where teams saw themselves as parts of communities. I don’t care if the league makes more money, they have enough money. IMO we’re not that far from (the original) Rollerball.
March 15, 2020 at 2:00 pm in reply to: notes from expert panel on the virus & other expert views #112366
znModeratoriām just willing to wait it out until we know more.
We know a lot.
You just have to find it and read it.
Look at my sticky above, if you read anything about the virus. That links to 2 articles in a thread here. One is about what happened in Italy because they did not stay ahead of this. The other is how much it took for Hong Kong, Singapore, and Taiwan to contain it.
It;s instructive reading those 2 things.
It got out of control in Italy. It’s instructive to learn why they let it get out of control, and it’s instructive to see what the results of that were.
They contained it in the 3 Asian places mentioned. It’s instructive to learn how much it took to do that.
I would honestly say that if anyone has not read those 2 pieces yet all the way through, then, they don’t really know this situation.
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March 15, 2020 at 1:52 pm in reply to: notes from expert panel on the virus & other expert views #112365
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