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znModeratorJalen Ramsey since entering the league in 2016 (among CBs):
🔹 90.3 PFF grade (6th)
🔹 86.0 run defense grade (8th)
🔹 90.7 coverage grade (5th) pic.twitter.com/d4LJuSFmJp— PFF (@PFF) August 12, 2020
znModeratorthe only way Biden and Harris are bringing progressives into the party pic.twitter.com/WI1JcaeKvt
— Gritty is the Way (@Gritty20202) August 11, 2020
znModeratorCOVID-19 cases continue to grow among SoFi Stadium workers
https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/story/2020-08-11/sofi-stadium-covid-19-cases
More workers at the SoFi Stadium construction site in Inglewood have tested positive.New Surge in COVID-19 Cases Brings Total to 49
link https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/sports/is-sofi-stadium-cursed-new-surge-in-covid-19-cases-brings-total-to-49/2399631/
Sixteen more workers tested positive for the coronavirus at SoFi Stadium last week, bringing the total to 49.znModeratorWe can hope there will be more and more Cori Bushes. A fool’s hope.
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vWe have never in our entire lives seen so many progressive candidates.
The fools hope they don’t keep coming.
znModeratorI think this has been posted before but no harm in doing it again.
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"Oh my GOD, Cooper Kupp!"
That's the kind of reaction @CooperKupp gets with his speed and routes. 💯 #NFLTop100 (via @NFLFilms) pic.twitter.com/0JrBlRWsQB
— NFL (@NFL) August 10, 2020
znModeratorit takes a lot to shock Bill Belichick…
this was one of THE GREATEST plays he ever saw in the NFL
✅ film study
✅ instincts
✅ subterfuge
✅ execution pic.twitter.com/5z3tWAHQ04— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) August 11, 2020
znModeratorJared Goff when targeting receivers in the end zone last season:
➤ 15 TDs
➤ 0 INTs pic.twitter.com/H1oZqxZ4Ac— PFF Fantasy Football (@PFF_Fantasy) August 10, 2020
znModerator‘They don’t know what I know’: why Cori Bush is poised to change politics
Her team made half a million calls, recruited 2,000 volunteers, and knocked on 25,000 doors. It paid off: in a stunning upset, she ended a half-century Democratic dynasty in Missourihttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/11/cori-bush-interview-missouri-congress-michael-brown
August ninth was always going to be a difficult day to interview Cori Bush. Just five days before, Bush was propelled into the spotlight after winning her primary race in Missouri’s first congressional district, unseating the Democratic incumbent and ending a half-century family dynasty in Missouri.
In the days since, Bush has barely had a chance to catch her breath.
The win is the result of years of hard work and two unsuccessful campaigns – first for Senate in 2016 and again in 2018 for Congress. This time around, Bush’s team made almost half a million calls; signed up more than 2,000 volunteers; and knocked on 25,000 doors. Her grassroots campaign shunned corporate Pac money in favor of individual donations – and in the end, she both outraised the incumbent William Lacy Clay and outspent him on television advertisements.
But when we talk via Zoom on a Sunday afternoon, it’s not the exhaustion or the back-to-back interviews that are on Bush’s mind. 9 August is the anniversary of the death of Michael Brown, an unarmed, 18-year-old who was shot dead by police in Ferguson, Missouri, in 2014 – and Bush has just been at his memorial service.
“It’s hard looking at Michael Brown’s father and knowing that just last week he found out again that this officer won’t be charged,” she says, referencing the result of a five-month review that was decided last week.
“Just looking at him in his face, and seeing the other activists crying is tough. It has been six years and we keep coming back here every single year and we’re not seeing change,” she adds, fighting tears.
Following Brown’s death, Bush spent some 400 days campaigning on the streets of Ferguson. For her, six years marks the culmination of one of her areas of work – to get into politics – but not the other: to find justice for Black lives.
“Today is just a rough day, period, because it is when all of our lives changed,” she explains. “It changed and it went into such a dark, dark, unbelievable place for such a long time.”
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Just two months before Michael Brown’s death, Lacy Clay, then Missouri’s representative, voted against a Democratic amendment that would stop the military from providing police forces with heavy weapons and vehicles.
Then, on 10 August 2014, the Ferguson uprisings began.
A nurse and ordained pastor, Bush would often arrive at the protests still in her scrubs. People knew her by sight, calling her Mom or Pastor Cori. In the ensuing months, Bush walked so much she wore down two pairs of shoes – one was a brand-new pair of Nike Hi-Tops.
There were some pretty terrifying times out there
Bush and her fellow activists would sometimes have a moment’s respite, when they could break bread together, cranking up the volume on the speakers and dancing in the early evening while still on the frontlines. But those moments of joy only briefly punctuated the long battle against police, which featured teargas, armoured vehicles and violent clashes – and an incident in which Bush herself was assaulted.“We were teargassed so heavily. Not being able to breathe and knowing other people couldn’t breathe, watching people laying on the ground, hurt or in pain … There were some pretty terrifying times out there,” she says.
The assault itself is a source of deep upset for Bush; she begins to tear up when I ask her about it. She still seems bewildered at how her body came to be lifted into the air by the same cops called on to protect people. When her body hit the ground moments later, she felt numerous officers’ steel boots on her face and wondered whether she would die.
“My face was pressed up against the ground and I [was] feeling all of these steel-toe boots stomping me and my body was going from side to side. And I was just thinking; who do I scream out to?” asks Bush.
The fury of having to ask that question was what led her to return to the protests day after day, and it is what shapes her support for the growing movement calling for the police to be defunded. For her that means reallocating funds, drastically downsizing police budgets and investing in health services, social workers and hospitals instead of armed police.
“I know some people have said that the police don’t have enough money or officers, but we have plenty of money for teargas and Swat gear stockpiled in warehouses. Bear spray, pepper spray, skunk spray, rubber bullets – where does that money come from?” she asks.
Soon, she will move from being a political outsider to an insider and will be called to do her part to fix these problems. But Bush believes she is uniquely placed to have those conversations.
“I can talk to congresspeople now, and say: I know you read this, but this is what actually happened,” she explains.
After seeing the county’s first black prosecutor reach the same outcome as his predecessors – not to charge the officer who killed Brown – is she overwhelmed by the responsibility?
“No, I feel relief,” says Cori, and she smiles for a moment.
“Now we have some type of hope. I feel that little bit better knowing that I may be able to do something on a bigger scale for these families and these activists that have worked so hard for our community,” she says.
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If Bush wins Missouri in November (which she probably will – the seat has been blue since 1949, with Clay and his father in power since 1969) her life will change again, forever.
She will have to get used to not being able to always pick up the phone when her children call (her daughter, 19, and son, 20, both call during our interview – and Bush stops me for a second to make sure a member of her team answers).
She certainly won’t be able to drive her son home like she does nowwhen he is visiting her at her campaign office, out of fear that something bad will happen to him on the way back if she doesn’t.
I am excited for it to finally be the people’s house
“With the climate of our country and our world I worry about my children. My son is 20 years old, he is taller than me. He’s a black boy. I worry about [him], every single day. Every minute of the day. I’m not exaggerating,” she says.Bush has never been inside the Capitol. “I’m kind of glad that I haven’t because, the first time I get to cross the threshold [might] be as the congresswoman,” she says. “I am excited for it to finally be the people’s house.”
Bush was backed by Justice Democrats, the group responsible for kickstarting the political careers of other outsiders such as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar. They won 11 of the 15 primary races they vied for this election cycle.
But while their candidates are characterized by an unwillingness to take corporate Pac money and backing a slate of progressive policies – a $15 minimum wage, Medicare for All and a universal basic income of $2,000 a month – the party is still dominated by more moderate candidates.
Joe Biden, the Democratic nominee for president, won’t back Medicare for All; meanwhile, during the presidential primary debates, racism, police reform and criminal justice reform were seldom mentioned.
I believe Medicare for All is right: you breathe, you deserve healthcare
Bush, who ran for Congress without insurance and has spent chunks of time living out of a car, knows her priorities. She is deeply committed to Medicare for All, as well as a $15 minimum wage: “Some of our essential workers were going to work for $9 an hour. But some of them lost their lives because they kept going to work – and then some of them contracted Covid,” she says.
“Medicare for All – I know that is really not one of Joe Biden’s priorities … but I am going to continue to fight for it because I believe that is right: you breathe, you deserve healthcare.”
When I ask Bush what she thinks of Biden, she can barely keep herself from laughing.
“I think … He is the nominee for Democratic president,” she replies, before shaking her head. She adds: “We have what we have, and we have to get Trump out of the seat.”
This could prove tricky. Bush will have to build support across the party if she wants any of her ideas to filter through. And if defunding the police is one of her cornerstone commitments, she may have to be ready to compromise. Does that concern her?
“No, not really,” she responds, looking defiant. “Maybe [in] other areas we might have to do things a little differently than what I planned, but in this area, no … We haven’t been strong enough in this area in this country and I feel that’s why we are here,” she says.
So she isn’t intimidated thinking about meeting her new colleagues on her first day on Capitol Hill, not even one bit?
“No. I feel like, they don’t know what I know. I may not be an attorney, I’m a nurse – but when it comes to activism and advocacy, there are a lot of things I can do that they cannot.”
znModeratorthe first link is blocked. not sure if i did something wrong. is it working for everyone else?
It;s here on the Rams site.
August 11, 2020 at 11:19 am in reply to: Podcasts 8/11. “11 Personnel” w/Rodrigue & Hammond; & Farr w/ Bruce #119130znModeratorWant to hear from the most legendary players in franchise history? @DMarcoFarr1’s got ya covered.
2020 Hall of Fame inductee + Rams legend @IsaacBruce80 joins Rams Iconic to kick off episode one.
Apple Podcast 🎧 » https://t.co/uVz2lueVFL
Spotify 🎧 » https://t.co/GPJT5LKnaq pic.twitter.com/H8pFoThZEZ— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 10, 2020
znModeratorRe: @realDonaldTrump on the anthem, back in 2018, I did a story on the NFL backing away from instituting a new policy. In reporting it, I found out that the NFL and NFLPA did a study on Trump.
The result? Data told them ignoring Trump was the answer. https://t.co/EjwSq4KQM4 pic.twitter.com/go3hwQf84n
— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) August 11, 2020
August 11, 2020 at 1:25 am in reply to: documenting police violence & issues of racial injustice in policing #119118znModeratorznModeratorThe President says the “1917 pandemic” ended the Second World War pic.twitter.com/jSltuSYim2
— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) August 10, 2020
znModeratorBecause you want to see and hear a groundhog chomp on broccoli. #MondayMotivation pic.twitter.com/VYHrO4y25I
— Danny Deraney (@DannyDeraney) August 10, 2020
znModeratorTurfShowTimes@TurfShowTimes
Rams schedule: Could the AFC East go 0-16 vs the NFC West this season? A matchup of arguably the NFL’s toughest division against what would appear to obviously be its weakestGary Klein@LATimesklein
ICYMI Rams CB Jalen Ramsey is more than acornerback. “There’s a vision and goal to use to him in a way that’s never been used before.”Stu Jackson@StuJRams
Malcolm Brown on new Rams RBs coach Thomas Brown:“He’s a great dude. You can tell his intensity right off the bat, his focus on the details of the game. His addition to our staff has been amazing.”
PFF LA Rams@PFF_Rams
Robert Woods has had the 6th-highest number of explosive plays (15+ yards) since joining the #LARams in 2017Woods has thrived in his three years with the Rams, earning the 11th-best receiving grade at the position since 2017. He has dropped just seven of his 259 catchable targets in that span, though the best thing he brings to the table is his route-running. He generates an exceptional rate of separation, and that’s helped him pick up the sixth-most explosive plays of 15-plus yards since 2017 (86). Woods has been a consistently great receiving option for the Rams, and that should continue in 2020.
znModeratorTrump’s executive orders from the golf club:
Cut unemployment benefits for millions.
Reduce funding for Social Security and Medicare.
Do nothing to treat the virus, open schools, or help people vote.
What’s next for Trump while millions of Americans suffer?
The back nine.
— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) August 8, 2020
znModeratorznModeratorRams Camp Virtual Tailgate
Thanks for the heads up. Yeah apparently they took it down. They took it down on another message board too. I am going to delete it and sub in the twitter snippet that was originally post #2. Maybe it will turn up on the Rams official site, in which case I will link it.
znModeratorAs Covid-19 Cases Surge, Patients Are Dying At A Lower Rate. Here’s Why
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-09/covid-19-coronavirus-survival-rate-improves
When the number of people being sent to the hospital with COVID-19 began to creep up in Los Angeles County early this summer, officials warned that a major increase in deaths was inevitable. A record-breaking number of cases could result in a record-breaking number of deaths, they predicted.
But nearly two months later, that has not materialized. The coronavirus continues to kill hundreds of people every week in L.A. County, but the death toll has remained lower than expected.
The trend is due in part to younger people falling sick, as well as better control over the disease’s spread in high-risk settings, such as nursing homes. But doctors say there’s another factor pushing up survival rates: better treatments.
“It was so grim in the beginning,” said Dr. Armand Dorian, an ER physician and chief medical officer for Verdugo Hills Hospital at USC. “Now we actually have regimens of treatments that do help. … Since the beginning, say, February to now, we’ve learned a lot.”
The trends are not limited to L.A. County. In California, 3.6% of people diagnosed with COVID-19 between March and May died of the disease. Among those diagnosed between June 1 and Aug. 3, that figure dropped to 1.2%, according to a Times analysis of state data. Expanded testing, changing patient demographics and better patient care all played a role in that drop, experts say.
The statistic is what epidemiologists call the case-fatality rate: the number of deaths divided by the number of cases. This measures how deadly the disease is once people catch it — the chance of surviving. While the pandemic remains bleak, the lowered case-fatality rate is a glimmer of progress, experts say.
The case-fatality rate exists alongside another statistic: the mortality rate — deaths divided by the total population — which reflects the spread of the disease within the population.
In an interview with Axios released last week, President Trump discounted the nation’s mortality rate, which is worse than most other countries’, while lauding its case-fatality rate, which is better than most countries’.
But an improved case-fatality rate cannot offset the vast spread of the deadly virus, experts say. California’s mortality rate is rising as the state’s death toll from COVID-19 surpassed 10,000 on Thursday. If many people keep falling ill, then many people will die, even with improvements in survival rates.
Dr. Tim Brewer, an infectious disease specialist and epidemiologist at UCLA, said that even the medical improvements could be negated if the number of patients continues to grow. An overwhelmed healthcare system could hamper physicians’ ability to provide lifesaving care, he said.
“We’ve acquired a tremendous amount of information in the last seven months that has been helpful. We just need everybody to recognize that the virus has not gone away,” Brewer said.
When COVID-19 patients first began showing up in hospitals in the spring, doctors didn’t know which medicines or treatments would be effective. Little was understood about how the virus was transmitted or the best way to protect staff. USC’s Dorian described healthcare workers dealing with that unprecedented crisis as “deer in headlights.”
But that has changed rapidly as doctors around the world study and treat the coronavirus. Research findings in one country may within days become clinical guidelines in another.
“The collaboration between physicians all over the world over how to best treat COVID-19 has been quite extraordinary,” said Dr. Bilal Naseer, a critical care doctor in Sacramento with CommonSpirit Health, a large nonprofit hospital system. “I think the confidence level of physicians and healthcare teams is very high now — how to early-identify patients with COVID-19 and how to prevent severe disease is really much better understood.”
Early in the outbreak, panicked healthcare workers administered multiple drugs to patients to try to save them, unsure which may help. But that strategy made it hard to tell what was and wasn’t working, so physicians couldn’t gain knowledge they could use to help the next patients.
“Physicians around the world and in L.A. were basically throwing anything we could at these patients,” Brewer said. “We needed to get our panic level down a little bit and do research and trials and studies.”
One of those studies, conducted by British scientists, led to a surprising finding. For other deadly coronaviruses, such as SARS and MERS, steroid medications had been shown to worsen symptoms.
But the UK researchers found that dexamethasone, a common and low-cost steroid, reduced mortality for patients on ventilators by a third, and by a fifth for those requiring oxygen, according to the study published in June.
Doctors had already begun administering remdesivir, an antiviral medication developed by Gilead Sciences, that had been shown to shorten the time it takes for patients to recover from the infection. Both medicines are now regularly prescribed by physicians treating COVID-19 patients, they say.
“We’re miles away from having real cures like vaccinations and more specific meds,” Dorian said. “But we have something. It feels good to say, ‘Why don’t we give remdesivir?’”
San Diego State University epidemiologist Eyal Oren pointed out that many people who get sick may not die, but will still endure long-term health consequences. He warned that looking at small improvements in survival rates may elide the reality that thousands continue to die from COVID-19, particularly people of color.
“Why do we have this many cases and this many deaths?” he said. “What’s the big picture?”
But for some, the improved survival rates are a sliver of hope.
Before the latest wave of patients in L.A. County, the most people ever hospitalized with COVID-19 in the county at one time was just over 1,950 in late April. That record was broken in July, when more than 2,200 people were hospitalized with the infection.
Yet, average deaths never exceeded what they had reached in the spring. The county’s case-fatality rate from COVID-19 has dropped from 4% in May to 2% now, according to county data.
“To me, that probably means we’re doing better care,” said Dr. Jeffrey Gunzenhauser with the L.A. County Department of Public Health.
Gunzenhauser said that the decline is probably also due to changes in who is falling ill. Infections have fallen in nursing homes, whose residents are particularly vulnerable to the virus, while cases have increased among young people, who are healthier and more likely to survive, he said.
When patients do end up in the hospital, doctors have new protocols to improve their odds of survival. Early in the pandemic, doctors rushed to put patients on ventilators when they were struggling to breathe.
But now it has become clear that it may not be necessary to intubate these patients, which can open them up to other complications that actually decrease their chance of survival.
Now, physicians lie patients on their stomachs to allow more oxygen into their lungs and give them oxygen through tubes inserted into their nose. Patients are put on ventilators as a last resort, doctors say.
“We were on a hair trigger to put people on vents at the beginning of the epidemic,” said Bradley Pollock, the chair of the department of public health sciences at UC Davis. “If someone looked like they were declining, we’re going to immediately put them on a vent — that was a mistake, in retrospect.”
Doctors have also learned that COVID-19 tends to thicken patients’ blood and form blood clots, which can cause strokes and heart attacks. In some U.S. hospitals, clots were once reported to be the cause of 40% of COVID deaths. Now doctors know to administer anti-coagulants to prevent these deaths.
The knowledge gained over the last several months has improved care simply by making staff more confident, Dorian said. Patients benefit when healthcare workers aren’t stressed and can take their time with them and listen to their needs, he said.
“That’s what turns people around. It’s not just medicine, really,” he said.
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
Austin Blythe on the #RamsCamp Virtual Tailgate says “everything’s been pretty much seamless” for OL going through walkthroughs during the acclimation period. Been able to fast-track installs, now it’s about fine-tuning communication. Blythe says continuity will help w/ that.CB Jalen Ramsey on the #RamsCamp Virtual Tailgate, on playing full season w/ John Johnson, Taylor Rapp, Troy Hill, etc.:
“It’s super exciting, to be honest. When I first got traded out here last October, everybody was telling me, ‘Man, I wish you could’ve played with JJ.'”
Ramsey: “Everybody was telling me how exciting of a player [JJ] was to play with, the energy and the passion he brings to the game. So I’m finally able to experience a little bit of it, even if we’re just in walkthroughs right now. I know it’s going to turn up when it’s game time.”
On the #RamsCamp Virtual Tailgate, Rams QB Jared Goff says his goal is to have three 1,000-yard pass-catchers this season.
Andrew Whitworth on the #RamsCamp Virtual Tailgate, talking about setting an example for younger players:
“Even at Year 15 (in the NFL), my appreciation and dedication to the game remains the same, and hopefully that gives them something to inspire them to be that way as well.”
On the #RamsCamp Virtual Tailgate, LS Jake McQuaide says new special teams coordinator John Bonamego “has that same attention to detail that we’re used to.”
McQuaide also mentioned Bonamego’s experience (coaching career began in 1987 at Mt. Pleasant (Mich.) High): “He’s been around the block, at every level. You can tell when he gets in front of the room, he knows how to run the room. He has that command.”
Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
On the Rams virtual tailgate chat when the defense came up, it was mentioned that Aaron Donald isn’t feeling well; before anyone panics am told it’s not believed to be COVID-related or anything like thatSteve Wyche@wyche89
Rams Coach Sean McVay, with a smile, said WR Cooper Kupp has served as the emergency QB in the past, but rookie RB Cam Akers, a former QB might be in the mix: “Watching what he can do, he is very capable. He hasn’t been shy about letting me know that he can still spin it.”Stu Jackson@StuJRams
@RamsNFL head coach Sean McVay said Andrew Whitworth and Brian Allen haven’t had any lingering effects from testing positive for COVID-19 this offseason. They’ve been able to participate in the current acclimation period without any restrictions.“They’re in good shape.”
Sean McVay says OLB Terrell Lewis is also back in the building today.
McVay said Lewis will be able to get back to “full action” if he stays asymptomatic the next three days. That’s based on the NFL’s updated policy.
znModeratorCordelle@CrownAndCigar
So what’s worse Vinny? No College Football in 2020 meaning athletic departments going under meaning less opportunities for young women and men to get educations? Or the minuscule tenth of a tenth of a tenth chance they die from the virus which has hardly affected this age group?Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
Do you have a financing plan to cover the cost of protecting players/coaches/staff? How do you propose to pay for the daily to multi-weekly testing for everyone involved? How are you paying to upgrade the facilities to get them up to standard?This is the pressing question facing schools: Are we confident we have the necessary means to protect the players/coaches/staff if we move forward with a football season? If the answer isn’t YES the only alternative is to push the pause button
The @NFL model to protect its players is costing each team millions of dollars in terms of the testing and the upgrades to facilities that are needed to ensure a safe and working environment.
Let alone come up with a unified, air-tight plan to even pull that part of it off? Given the financial hit schools will take from limited to no fans attending games, how is the testing/facility upgrades being financed?
How, exactly, are hundreds of schools across the country supposed to figure out the financial math problem of paying what it will take to protect players/coaches/necessary staff? Especially now with revenue taking such a massive hit?
And does rolling the dice also mean cutting some corners? Who is liable if it all falls apart? Or if something tragic happened? I’d love for someone to spell out a concise and specific plan on how all this is supposed to be implemented and financed.
No one is pushing fear and panic. These are practical questions college football is trying to answer. By all means, if you have a plan in place, and can answer the financing of it, share it.
Dan Orlovsky@danorlovsky7
I don’t know what happens next with CFB-but-if they do cancel the season they need to mandate the student athletes stay on campus and have access to the same care and facilities they would if season is/was played.Mike D’Amico@MiketheSaint
What if a guy gets paralyzed for life on the field? Which is far more likely.Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
There is a catastrophic injury insurance program in place for those situations, which is paid for. So again, we’re getting into the financial math problem of pulling this off.znModeratorGoff to Reynolds 🙌 (Via Rams/IG) over/under 1,000 receiving yards for Reynolds this season? pic.twitter.com/qeFLtydo5B
— HoldenCantor (@HoldenCantor) August 9, 2020
znModeratorthe jerseys are garbage.
but that helmet looks good.
i’m just glad they didn’t screw up the helmet.
I like the jersies! Though I don’t like em to “willing to board war over it” levels. It;s just my vote.
I agree about the helmet.
znModeratorThe frustrating thing for me is that I’m positive he doesn’t get my views, at all, but is certain he does, and won’t let me voice more than half a sentence to clarify. I have a feeling he thinks I want everything to “go back” to ancient village life, without any “modern” innovations, and that if we got rid of capitalism and replaced it with economic democracy, that’s where we’d be.
Also, I’m not trying to get him to join me, agree with me, become a leftist. I really just want him to understand where I stand. That’s important to me. That family understand this. Based on recent conversations, however, I think that’s never going to happen, and it makes me, well, beyond sad.
Again, he’s well-educated and smart. This just seems to be a real sore spot for him, and he just won’t brook dialogue that might alter set-in-stone viewpoints.
Yeah that’s another symptom of ideology at work. A belief so deep rooted, that evidence or rational discussion is literally meaningless. It just gets people to dig in more. Like in Spinal Tap–but this one goes to 11.
I know what you’re saying. Sometimes people change. Though…counting on it is seldom a good use of time.
I have been in face-to-face debates with libbies about health care, and my experience was, I might as well have been speaking an alien language. And I made every effort to just be calmly reasonable.
If I am going to end up in a face-to-face debate now, it’s withstanding stuff from the Oregon-style street “anarchist” types (as we know, not informed philosophical anarchists). They see me as this old sell-out. They don’t listen, or want to. The way they see it, I’m either totally in step with them or completely useless. I change the subject. Cooking is a good subject change topic.
August 9, 2020 at 8:57 pm in reply to: the virus & the education industry (ie. what should schools do) #119075znModeratorfrom Georgia high school reports 9 cases of coronavirus after viral photo
Six students and three staff members have tested positive for COVID-19 at North Paulding High School in Georgia, where a photo showing a hallway packed with maskless students went viral last week, the Atlanta-Journal Constitution reports.
August 9, 2020 at 8:45 pm in reply to: A’Shawn Robinson on the active/non-football injury list #119072znModeratorMedical condition sidelines A’Shawn Robinson
https://www.al.com/sports/2020/08/medical-condition-sidelines-ashawn-robinson.html
The Los Angeles Rams don’t have a timetable for the return of A’Shawn Robinson after an undisclosed medical condition landed the former Alabama All-American on the non-football injury list, Sean McVay, the NFL team’s coach, said on Sunday.
The Rams placed the defensive tackle on NFI on Saturday.
“He’s able to partake in meetings, get treatment, be around his teammates,” McVay said. “We’ll look forward to getting him back at some point this season. When that is, I don’t know specifically.”
An exam for training camp identified Robinson’s condition, which McVay declined to specify. Jordan Rodrigue of The Athletic reported the problem was cardiovascular in nature. McVay did say Robinson would not need a medical procedure to correct the condition.
“It’s not anything that’s too concerning,” McVay said. “I’m glad we were able to get a hold of it early on. It’s something that surprised us. This wasn’t something we expected.”
After spending his first four NFL seasons with the Detroit Lions, Robinson joined Los Angeles as a free agent on March 18 for a two-year, $17 million contract.
In 2019, when he started nine games, Robinson had 40 tackles and knocked down three passes while playing 46 percent of the defensive snaps for the Lions. He missed the final three games of the season because of a shoulder injury.
In 58 games with Detroit, Robinson had 37 starts, 172 tackles, five sacks, 16 tackles for loss, three forced fumbles, three fumble recoveries and one interception, which he returned 2 yards for a touchdown against the New Orleans Saints on Oct. 15, 2017. The interception is one of 16 passes that Robinson has gotten at least a hand on during his NFL career.
At Alabama, Robinson was a consensus All-American in 2015 for the Crimson Tide’s CFP national championship team.
Robinson entered the NFL as a second-round selection in the 2016 NFL Draft.
znModerator“Won’t happen in a million years and it’s crazy to even talk about it! Human nature, etc. etc.!”
That’s the primary symptom of ideology at work. It identifies an immutable, universal “human nature” which, by its “nature” so to speak will allow one kind of socio-political arrangement and not others. So that the system in question is naturalized.
BTW I think that someone who is open to a Scandanavian arrangement is more that just a lib, they’re into the territory of progressive.
But not all progressives agree on everything, as we know. I tend to take things like that one cookie at a time. If someone is down with the advanced-type new FDR stuff and social democracy and things like single-payer insurance for health care, that’s a lot.
August 9, 2020 at 7:16 pm in reply to: A’Shawn Robinson on the active/non-football injury list #119067znModeratorKevin Modesti@KevinModesti
A’Shawn Robinson’s unspecified injury occurred before training camp started Monday, a #Rams spokesman said. For context: The Colts recently put WR T.Y. Hilton on the “active/non-football injury” list with what is reported to be a hamstring injury sustained working out at home.Gary Klein@LATimesklein
Robinson was placed on the list because of an unspecified injury or condition that occurred before the start of training camp, a team spokesperson said. He is eligible to return as soon as he is physically sound, the spokesperson said.McVay says there is no timeline for return of A’Shawn Robinson, who was put on non-football injury list because of unspecified “condition.” Said Rams “look forward to being able to get him back at some point this season. When that is, I don’t know.”
McVay: “This is just being precautionary with some things that we kind of discovered and he was able to really communicate clearly to us. So it was something that recently came about.”
In wake of Robinson situation, McVay on the Rams’ability to re-sign Michael Brockers after deal with Ravens fell through: “Thank the Lord.”
J.B. Long@JB_Long
Sean McVay on @RamsNFL DT A’Shawn Robinson on NFI list: He’s doing really well. He’s going to partake in meetings. Get him back “at some point this season.”This was something that did catch the Rams “by surprise.” But sounds precautionary. And everyone is glad they identified the (unspecified) condition at this stage.
Also of note: Rookie edge Terrell Lewis back in the building today.
Stu Jackson@StuJRams
Rams head coach Sean McVay says DT A’Shawn Robinson, who was placed on the Non-Football Injury List yesterday, is “doing really well.” Will be able to get treatment, be around teammates. “We’ll be able to get him back at some point this season,” but don’t know when that is.”znModeratorI get that, ZN. You are probably right about “not going there,” basically.
Apologies if I misread you . . . but in this case, ironically, the discussant is one of those “liberal Dems.” Not a righty by any means. Despises them, when it comes to politics in general.
It’s just a bridge too far, for this person, if the discussion moves to replacing current system with alternatives, and even the beginnings of a hint regarding this (in the conversation) seems to bring things to an instant boil.
Yeah I’ve encountered that. Basically with libbie dems I assent to common ground but don’t push. I will darkly hint (“well to me national health insurance is more important”). Nothing comes of those discussions either.
znModeratorThis is just my own cranky POV. I just don’t do it. It’s like arguing about religion. People don’t listen and don’t want to listen. There’s no point. And tbh I won’t listen when a rightie wants to fill my ears. Fortunately, I have just enough of an “alternative lifestyle” vibe about me that that rarely happens. People see me and if they are righties, they just don’t raise political topics. I know all my neighbors are Trumpies but we all get along cause we discuss gardening and dogs.
Lately I do have a thing with a couple of people in the extended family where if you are not an angry street fighting “anarchist” (not a philosophical anarchist, a full-blown throw rocks at the police like in Portland type) you are a sell-out. I don’t want to hear that either.
Fortunately, most of the people I talk to at work or in the family are anywhere from liberal dems to no-party progressives.
I have just enough in common with liberal dems to hold my tongue and just affirm the shared ground.
I can’t preach, I don;t like to debate live with people if it can be awkward, and I don’t want to be converted. Online is different because you can walk away and not respond for hours, and you don’t have to let it be emotional in the moment. I am in a debate elsewhere with right-wing covid deniers. Mostly what I do there is back up, support, and assist the avid “on the side of reason” debaters. It’s just different than in person. If someone I knew for example wanted to deny to my face that racism is real, I would just feel this combination of sad and frustrated.
So no I would never date a republican.
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