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znModeratorI guess they will just have to take it one game at a time, and give it 110%
And leave it all on the field.
It’s not over until the fat lady is over.
znModeratorThis loss apparently especially bothered people. On our board, when things go bad, posters often don’t vent, instead they withdraw.
December 30, 2025 at 1:25 pm in reply to: Atlanta game — tweets, plays, highlights, commentary #160648
znModeratorI will say that the holding call on that TD was unconvincing to me. You see more flagrant holds than that every single game that go uncalled. It wasn’t a hold. It was a takedown with leverage, and I’m not sure if technically that is a hold nowadays, but like I said, you see worse every single game.
That was PI on the Tutu bomb, too. No question about it.
But I think the call was right on that spectacular Puka catch.
I’m not saying bad calls cost them the game. Whenever someone blames the calls, I always think that a team should look first at its own missteps and failings. (Like Humphries blowing the block on the Wms 4th down run inside the Atlanta redzone.)
But having said that, I have a very strong suspicion that there is some ref payback for Puka mouthing off about them. Which is one of the many reasons mature veteran players never do that.
December 30, 2025 at 12:20 am in reply to: Atlanta game — tweets, plays, highlights, commentary #160639
znModeratorSarah Barshop@sarahbarshop
Sean McVay said the Rams will play their starters in Week 18 against the Cardinals.“We need to play better,” McVay said
HORNZ SzN@RicflairsFather
Quentin Lake
Davante Adams
Kevin Dotson
Alaric Jackson
Tyler HigbeeThat’s a lot of reinforcements coming back just in time for the playoff run. If the Rams lose this game, which rn it looks like they will, they can still get the 5 seed. The sky is not falling!
HoldenCantor@HoldenCantor
Alaric Jackson might be the 2nd most important player on this offenseBrock Vierra@BrockVierra
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Sean McVay’s decision to revamp his special teams pays off. Jared Verse with the blocked kick and return for a touchdownAlbert Breer@AlbertBreer
Matthew Stafford’s throws to Atwell and Nacua on those second and third downs were about as good as it gets. There are so few people that have ever thrown the ball like this guy can.Falcons survive.
December 30, 2025 at 12:11 am in reply to: Atlanta game — tweets, plays, highlights, commentary #160638
znModeratorAtwell has his arm pulled back on this pass but the refs don't throw a flag pic.twitter.com/CyBK8CsPko
— Rate the Refs (@Rate_the_Refs) December 30, 2025
Joe Buck and rules analyst Russell Yurk called out the refs missing pass interference against the Falcons on a Rams deep ball in the final seconds.
"That's a missed call!"
"That's a pass interference."
The Falcons hang on to win, 27-24. 🏈🦓🎙️ #NFL #MNF pic.twitter.com/ghGDDgJInm
— Awful Announcing (@awfulannouncing) December 30, 2025
December 29, 2025 at 11:57 pm in reply to: Atlanta game — tweets, plays, highlights, commentary #160637
znModerator𝚂𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚝 (𝟷𝟷-𝟺)@_SC00T
This final drive is exactly why you don’t talk shit about the refs, Puka.December 29, 2025 at 11:56 pm in reply to: Atlanta game — tweets, plays, highlights, commentary #160636
znModeratorRams #72 called for holding which takes away a 40 yard touchdown pass from Stafford to Puka pic.twitter.com/D3GgNg8lu7
— Rate the Refs (@Rate_the_Refs) December 30, 2025
znModerator1st half reaction: on the OL they’re missing Jackson, Dotson, and Hav.
McClendon has been playing well, but 3 out of 5 OL are replacements, which is obviously too many and tips things. Atlanta has a good pass rush. Stafford is not as comfortable. It’s 2022 all over again.
Humphries at LOT was the one who blew the 4th and 1 block, and the one who drew the flag that negated the 30+ yard pass. 2026 draft should include OTs and CBs.
For now, time to see if they can become a 2nd half team again.
And then Humphries got the flag that negated the TD to Nacua.
Anyway. At least they battled back in the 2nd half. Didn’t get there but they still get the #5 seed. In 2021, they were wildcard team but still made the super bowl.
December 29, 2025 at 6:07 pm in reply to: Rams tweets etc. … 12/27 – 12/30 … w/ some Baldinger #160631
znModerator"I still think they may be the best team in the entire NFL, but so much has kind of gone against them."@Kurt13Warner analyzes the Rams' playoff potential 👀
(via @RichEisenShow) pic.twitter.com/moY68BhZ0V
— NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) December 29, 2025
znModeratorI’m worried that the Rams are actually a 4-win team, the practices are too damn long, players are about to mutiny, and Isaac Bruce is a malingerer.
For some reason I am reminded of this poem by Robert Creeley
…—John, I
sd, which was not his
name, the darkness sur-
rounds us, whatcan we do against
it, or else, shall we &
why not, buy a goddamn big car,drive, he sd, for
christ’s sake, look
out where yr going.Drive, he said.
znModeratorBTW, if Atlanta loses twice and the 3 teams immediately ahead of them win, the highest their pick can go is 8th.
Draft order as of now:
Las Vegas Raiders: 2-14; .544 SOS
New York Giants: 3-13 record; .531 strength of schedule
New York Jets: 3-13, .548 SOS
Tennessee Titans: 3-13, .576 SOS
Arizona Cardinals: 3-13; .577 SOS
Cleveland Browns: 4-12, .494 SOS
Washington Commanders: 4-12; .504 SOS
New Orleans Saints: 6-10; .491 SOS
Kansas City Chiefs: 6-10; .511 SOS
Cincinnati Bengals: 6-10; .520 SOS
Atlanta Falcons (pick belongs to Los Angeles Rams): 6-9; .498 SOSIf Atlanta wins either one of its remaining games, they could be lower than 11.
The only teams that can let them rise higher in the draft order by winnning are the Saints, Chiefs, and Bengals.
Their schedules:
Bengals are home against Arizona then Cleveland. They could easily win at least one of those.
Chiefs have just one game, the Raiders. Raiders are tanking for the 1st pick.
Saints are on the road in both Tennessee and … Atlanta! They could easily win one of those, and if they have to beat the Falcons or none of this works.
So highest possible pick is 8th.
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znModeratorUPDATED AS OF 12/29
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ATLANTA
Offense
yds 14th
points 26th
yds per pass attempt 12TH
yds per rush attempt 13th
qb sacked percentage 4th
RZ efficiency (TD only) 7th
turnovers 15thDefense
points 21st
yds 14th
yds per pass attempt 12th
yds per rush attempt 25th
RZ efficiency (TD only) 15th
pressure percentage 7th
turnovers 16thRAMS
Offense
yds 2nd
points 1st
yds per pass attempt 1st
yds per rush attempt 10th
qb sacked percentage 3rd
RZ efficiency (TD only) 5th
turnovers 3rdDefense
yds 16th
points 6th
yds per pass attempt 10th
yds per rush attempt 11th
RZ efficiency (TD only) 3rd
pressure percentage 9th
turnovers 5thDecember 29, 2025 at 4:13 am in reply to: Rams tweets etc. … 12/27 – 12/30 … w/ some Baldinger #160615
znModerator1st & Tuna@1standtuna
Rams win next 2 : ✈️ CAR/TB
Rams lose 1 or both: ✈️ PHI/CHI
znModeratorJust following the Chicago/SF game through online stats while doing other things.
It appears to be quite some game.
Right now, Bears are ahead 38-35 w/ a little over 5 to go in the 4th quarter.
Looks like neither defense can stop the other team’s offense. Both teams can pass, both teams can run. Though of course the Bears started off with a pick 6.
znModeratorPlus, he missed a wide open receiver on the last play of the game.
OH MY GOD JOSH ALLEN WITH THE CHOKE OF THE YEAR!!!
pic.twitter.com/jnCdYMgaAk— John Frascella (Football) (@NFLFrascella) December 29, 2025
znModeratorI was hoping Josh Allen would not look like an MVP in this game. He came close. I dunno.
0 TD passes, sacked 5 times, 2 fumbles w/ 1 lost, qb rating of 88. Upside: 2 TDs rushing.
znModeratorI dont know who the heck Malik Willis is, but he looked like Lamar Jackson last night for the Packers. They might have another franchise QB on their team.
Kyle Malzhan@KyleMalzhan
Malik Willis will hit free agency after the season. He proved to be a starting QB in the NFL throughout his 2 seasons with the #Packers.– 6 passing TDs
– 3 rushing TDs
– 0 INTs
– 977 passing yards
– 261 rushing yardsHis pitch is simple: “What you put on tape is your pitch.”
December 28, 2025 at 9:13 am in reply to: Rams tweets etc. … 12/27 – 12/30 … w/ some Baldinger #160598
znModeratorRams 2026 opponents
Home
Arizona Cardinals
San Francisco 49ers
Seattle Seahawks
Dallas Cowboys
New York Giants
Kansas City Chiefs
Los Angeles Chargers
NFC North TBD
AFC East TBDAway
Arizona Cardinals
Denver Broncos
Las Vegas Raiders
Philadelphia Eagles
San Francisco 49ers
Seattle Seahawks
Washington CommandersHow can we know the schedule when we dont know if the Rams will finish 1st, 2nd, or third in the division? I thought there were schedule differences based on where a team finished?
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vTrue. That’s what this is:
Home
NFC North TBD
AFC East TBDAway
NFC South TBD
znModeratorLot of reasonable choices this year. My vote would go to Shannahan, i think.
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vShanahan has done an amazing job, but Vrabel and Johnson have completely turned around franchises, and that will get them more votes.
Jourdan Rodrigue @jourdanrodrigue.bsky.social
Hard to remember a more rightfully crowded COY candidate group. Vrabel, MacDonald, Coen, Payton, Shanahan, Johnson, Ryans, Steichen depending on how this finishes out and Canales has these Panthers on a joyride season. McVay is coaching for a Super Bowl. Jim Harbaugh. So many.December 28, 2025 at 1:46 am in reply to: Rams tweets etc. … 12/27 – 12/30 … w/ some Baldinger #160595
znModeratorRams 2026 opponents
Home
Arizona Cardinals
San Francisco 49ers
Seattle Seahawks
Dallas Cowboys
New York Giants
Kansas City Chiefs
Los Angeles Chargers
NFC North TBD
AFC East TBDAway
Arizona Cardinals
Denver Broncos
Las Vegas Raiders
Philadelphia Eagles
San Francisco 49ers
Seattle Seahawks
Washington Commanders
NFC South TBDDecember 28, 2025 at 1:41 am in reply to: Rams tweets etc. … 12/27 – 12/30 … w/ some Baldinger #160594
znModeratorroberto clemente@rclemente2121
nfc westoffensive pts per game avg:
#1 rams
#6 seahawks
#7 49ersoffensive pts allowed per game avg:
#2 seahawks
#3 rams
#12 49ers
znModeratorBijan Robinson has 2,026 Yards with multiple games remaining this season
He’s playing out of his mind and I just feel like it’s not appreciated enough man
Only 5 RB’s in NFL History have cleared 2,300+ Rushing and Receiving Yards..
Bijan’s on the brink of joining elite company pic.twitter.com/m0Pd9DDpix
— Austin Abbott (@AustinAbbott) December 27, 2025
December 28, 2025 at 12:55 am in reply to: science! physics, astrophysics, abiogenesis, n other stuff #160592
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znModeratorOkay that’s 3 OL out: Jackson, Dotson, Hav.
I was premature. Jackson’s not officially out.
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Adam Grosbard@AdamGrosbard
Rams LT Alaric Jackson will be limited at practice today and listed as questionable for Monday. Sean McVay said questionable is a true description, and DJ Humphries would start at LT if Jackson can’t go
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znModeratorMcVay said Rams LT Alaric Jackson (knee) will be questionable to play on Monday night against the Falcons. McVay said if Jackson cannot play, D.J. Humphries will start in his place.
Stu Jackson@StuJRams
Sean McVay says OL Kevin Dotson (ankle) and CB Josh Wallace (ankle) will be OUTOkay that’s 3 OL out: Jackson, Dotson, Hav. McClendon has been doing well, but replacing 3 OL at once does not put you in optimal territory, as Rams fans know all too well.
And 3 DBs out: Witherspoon, Lake, Wallace. McCreary stepping up.
On the other hand…they’re saving it for the postseason.
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znModerator3RD AND 93 IS ABSOLUTELY CRAZY.
😭😭😭 pic.twitter.com/t764QXyxvU
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) December 27, 2025
znModeratorSarah Barshop@sarahbarshop
Sean McVay said Rams LT Alaric Jackson (knee) will be questionable to play on Monday night against the Falcons. McVay said if Jackson cannot play, D.J. Humphries will start in his place.Stu Jackson@StuJRams
Sean McVay says OL Kevin Dotson (ankle) and CB Josh Wallace (ankle) will be OUT for Monday Night Football at Falcons, while WR Davante Adams (hamstring) will be listed as dboutful.McVay also said Roger McCreary will be activated. With Wallace out, McVay indicated that would be an opportunity for him and Derion Kendrick to step up
znModeratorKey Pending Free Agents (2026)
Rob Havenstein (RT)
Tutu Atwell (WR)
Tyler Higbee (TE)
Kamren Curl (S)
Roger McCreary (CB)
Decobie Durant (CB)
Larrell Murchison (DL)
Quentin Lake (S)You know, of all those, my bet right now is they only keep Lake.
They will likely draft more than one CB, and in fact early buzz is saying that the 2026 draft is strong at corner.
It’s probably worthwhile to take an early look at the 2027 FA list too since the 2026 draft could anticipate and compensate for potentially losing some of those guys. They can’t keep them all, so maybe they look at drafting kids a year early in 2026 who could step up for the players they might lose in 2027.
That would be the 2023 draft that would either have to be signed or replaced in or by 2027:
Steve Avila
Byron Young
Kobie Turner
Stetson Bennett
Warren McClendon
Davis Allen
Puka Nacua
Ethan Evans
Desjuan JohnsonDecember 26, 2025 at 11:41 pm in reply to: rams striving for perfection–Rams benchmarks this season #160579
znModeratorHow the Rams Remodeled Amid False Narratives and Built Another Super Bowl Contender
GM Les Snead lays out his football-biology experiment, precisely as he and coach Sean McVay want it played, like when Los Angeles is at its best.Greg Bishop
https://www.si.com/nfl/how-the-rams-remodeled-amid-false-narratives-built-super-bowl-contender
In Les Snead’s office, behind the minimalist standing desk, opposite the bookshelf filled with volumes on greatness, process and history, there is a list. It’s just eight bullet points long, each scribbled in black Sharpie, all caps and fairly neat handwriting for a sports executive. The header, just above the list, is underlined in red. It says:
Those words, only 46 total, are short and straightforward, one concept building into the next, all concepts forming a greater whole. Those words also come wrapped in infinite complications, the kinds that separate good football teams from great ones and champions from all the others.
Snead began mapping out this football-biology experiment four seasons ago, in the same months the team he built in Los Angeles won Super Bowl LVI in February 2022. In those 46 words, he formulated an organizational philosophy, one implemented from that season through this one.
Back in early 2022, after the triumph, celebration and exit interviews, on the same day he would depart team headquarters for the beginning of a gloriously shortened offseason, Snead looked over his list one last time. He added a box at the end. It then read, in full:
Must have COLLECTIVE competence
Must remove INCOMPETENCE
Must have collaboration
Must have competition
Competition assists in cleansing incompetence
ALPHA cells must do what is best for the COLLECTIVE
Transformation of organism occurs when Stress & Heat is applied
Dying, Sick, Healthy, EliteAnd there it was, football biology, the elements that formed the kinds of players Snead wanted to pursue. Had pursued. Would pursue, in that offseason and every subsequent spring.
His Rams had lost Super Bowl LIII and won it three seasons later. The GM who built both teams better understood what he wanted, what mattered and how to form not an individual dream team but a collective that played better together when stocked with the preferred football biology in question. If that meant F— Them Picks, a prominent theme during the championship season, owing to myriad, high draft selections that Snead had traded to assemble a roster capable of winning the whole thing, well, so be it. The general manager even wore a T-shirt emblazoned with that phrase to the victory parade.
The philosophy he formulated over that season became an illustration resembling a science experiment and hangs next to that whiteboard on Snead’s office wall. It’s laid out in the Rams’ colors—royal blue background, gold letters, white diagrams—with a rendering of a football player at the center and FOOTBALL BIOLOGY running up the left side in large font. It’s Rams football, precisely as Snead and his head coach, Sean McVay, want it played. Like when Los Angeles is at its best, in that season or in this one.
“The premise is, in your body, you’re gonna have these alpha cells,” Snead says of that seventh bullet point. “A cancer in the locker room is [when] a cell goes rogue. The point being, football is an ecosystem. Right?”
Among the most complicated on earth.
Snead then launches into the remainder of a three-minute-long answer. The gist: He will be on the right side of that evolution, his roster stocked with alpha cells that have not yet or will never become cancerous, per his metaphor. “What’s best,” he says, “for the collective.”
Most watch the Rams in 2025 and see an antithetical approach to the one adopted by Snead, McVay and all others in 2021. Love Them Picks should be the Rams’ new ethos. But while F— Them Picks provided a catchy catchphrase, not to mention a defiant, deserved middle finger to Snead’s critics, the phrase itself, and the framework around it, are both actually misleading.
“That’s the other thing,” Snead says inside his office in mid-November. The approach in 2021 vs. in 2025 is “not as different as you think.”
The GM suggests more research, then says, “In a lot of ways, I imagine the approach has been the same.”
The day before our meeting in Woodland Hills, Calif., Snead broke from his typical, in-season routine. Instead, he attended “Take your husband to work day” with his wife, Kara. She’s consulting for a scripted TV show about a professional football league that’s in production. Les accompanied her to the Paramount lot. He spoke with actors Christopher Meloni, Mandy Moore, Chace Crawford and Chloe Bennet. He watched the crew film a scene in which decision-makers cut a player from their fictional league. He swapped notes on releasing players. He wasn’t starstruck, though. He wanted to know how they made television shows.
Twenty-four hours later, his takeaway centers, naturally, on those processes he heard about and watched unfold. Les saw precision, a surrendering of results to process, intentional preparation and adaptability. That staff reminded him of the Rams’ offensive coaches. Some of their processes recalled parts of his own approach.
He’s asked, in that office, after the day on set, with that science diagram hanging over his left shoulder, while he stands and paces, then sits, stands and resumes pacing, whether he finds descriptions of his approaches in 2021 and 2025 to be true. Most who’ve written about those Rams seasons in relation to each other describe the approaches as opposed to each other. For instance, from 2016 through 2022, Los Angeles ranked fifth in the NFL in total money spent on offseason transactions. The Rams also traded their first-round pick in each season from 2016 through 2021.
This approach, the continuum, netted L.A. two Super Bowl appearances and one title. Sure, the Rams went 5–12, cementing their first nonplayoff season since 2016 with their first losing record since then, too. Still, the remodel continued.
Snead is told that the Rams drafted 27 players on their 53-man roster this season. Does he love draft picks, then? Did he always? “I tell people all the time,” he says, regarding F— Them Picks, “[the slogan is] cool, fun moment, but I didn’t come up with it.”
He didn’t believe it, necessarily, not beyond his own fearlessness to trade high draft picks for elite talent, when the situation—right team, right season, right run—demanded calculated risk. But while Snead did make high-profile trades, he made most of those before the championship season. While he also began, yes, collecting picks, whether compensatory for players who departed or trading back in other drafts. At one point, Snead recalls someone pointing out that Los Angeles had the third- or fourth-highest tally of picks in the NFL.
What’s often presented as binary approaches—freewheeling gambler or draft builder scared straight—Snead sees more as a continuum. An approach that’s grounded in FOOTBALL BIOLOGY but adapted to the circumstances of any season. Which explains the 2022, ’23 and ’24 seasons in relation to the current one.
These Rams feature not only the 27 drafted players but also the 13 starters Los Angeles chose itself. And, while there are high-profile offensive players among that group—Puka Nacua, Tyler Higbee, Rob Havenstein and Kyren Williams—the Rams are back in Super Bowl contention because of Snead’s defensive overhaul from the title season to now. Which is why he prefers to describe the three seasons between the championship and this one not as a rebuild but a remodel.
The entire Los Angeles defensive line was hand-selected: Jared Verse (2024, first round), Braden Fiske (2024, second), Kobie Turner (2023, third) and Byron Young (2023, third). While Snead spent high draft selections in recent seasons on that part of his remodel, he also stocked the Rams with depth from players selected later in the draft, which allowed L.A. to sidestep the everyone’s-gone conundrum familiar to teams that actually do gamble on one super season, whether they win or fail. He still paid Matthew Stafford to come back two seasons ago. He still signed elite wideout Davante Adams. He still extended Kyren Williams, Tutu Atwell and Alaric Jackson. Thus: the continuum at work.
That defensive front is beyond the traits Snead and McVay value highly—a defense that’s disruptive even if only rushing its front four. Most Super Bowl winners this century deployed defenses with only that—the ability to disrupt, without too many blitzes, while sending additional players into coverage.
He points to Week 2 of last season—a 41–10 blowout loss at Arizona, in the Rams’ first season after Aaron Donald retired—as the first time he noticed how special that group could be. Kyler Murray played as well as he could play that day, but Snead’s drafted front four was still disruptive.
“They will evolve as they become more disciplined,” Snead thought then. He realizes the nature of his comparison, a savage blowout loss into an early turning point. “There was actually a rose there,” he says. “Now, a lot more thorns went into that rose bush.”
Snead was right, by the way. More right than even he expected. Because those 2021 Rams—a team supposedly built for the future, dismissed, not part of the organizational calculations—well, that roster featured 32 players the Rams drafted, or five more than this season. The drafted Rams made for two fewer starters that season, but even then, there were 11. And for those who might note that these Rams haven’t drafted, say, Aaron Donald or Cooper Kupp, they also drafted Nacua and that defensive line.
The numbers point not to antithetical approaches but the same approach, throughout.
McVay, when told this numerical comparison last week, laughed through the phone line. “We kind of just joke with it,” he said. “Because we had traded capital for some of the big resources, and it became a fun narrative. But we never really believed that. We knew how important those picks were. It’s really about maximizing all avenues to acquire talent. They’re all damn important.”
He paused. Laughed again. “But don’t let a good little narrative get in the way of having some fun and making a T-shirt, right?”
This, yes, consistency in approach is not lost on those who are part of how Snead shapes football teams. Like Nacua, for instance. As a fifth-round find in 2023, his draft class alone featured Steve Avila (37 starts at center), Young (26.5 career sacks), Turner (22.5 career sacks) and 14 total players that amplified the Rams’ roster depth, which has been critical this season. “Out here, being new to the NFL, new to California, (I saw) the love of football that you could feel from all of these guys. Our guys stick together. You build that deeper relationship.”
McVay completed the second part of the Rams’ 2025 transformation, turning the players that Snead and his team chose, like from the ’23 draft class, into the collective of FOOTBALL BIOLOGY that has made Los Angeles the odds-on Super Bowl favorite through 15 weeks, just like Nacua laid out above.
In McVay, Snead sees an endless growth cycle that hasn’t ever stopped. He’s a New Year’s resolution type, Snead says, except that McVay completes his resolutions. “I tell people he may have one every week,” Snead says.
He’s asked, ballpark, what percentage of people in his life display that follow-through. That percentage, he says, is tiny, closer to one percent than 100.
Hence, this season and the narrative that’s still, somehow, being corrected. Stafford told SI that part of the reason he continues to play football—and for the Rams—is because of the roster Snead constructed and the biology at play. Stafford says he could sense this season at the end of last season. “I felt good,” he says, “about our team.”
That feeling started with the approach Snead deployed in 2021 and in 2025. Love Them Picks. Somebody really needs to get these guys some T-shirts.
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