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znModeratorNate Atkins@NateAtkins_
A defensive coach who faced the Rams this season called Kevin Dotson “the engine of their run game.”He’s one of four players the Rams must get healthy enough to make the run they want to make
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from Atkins: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6935178/2026/01/02/rams-quentin-lake-late-season-form/?source=emp_shared_article
Alaric Jackson and Kevin Dotson
The biggest key to the Rams’ midseason offensive explosion wasn’t the use of 13-personnel or Stafford or Nacua or Adams; after all, McVay has long created strong passing games through the wide receivers.
The offensive line’s dominance in creating the most balanced offense in the league made the difference.
It was harder to see coming than those other forces, because the Rams do not boast a Pro Bowler in that group. They have a couple of players who had legitimate cases this season, excelling in different phases while being strong enough in the other. And then they had to play without Jackson and Dotson against the Falcons, and a ferocious front swallowed the line up too often.
Jackson is arguably the Rams’ best pass protector, a rock-solid piece on Stafford’s blind side who is key to protecting that degenerative back issue and making his quarterback feel confident to work progressions at a time when Stafford is also trying to avoid hits to extend his career. Jackson suffered a knee injury out of the Seattle loss that ultimately sidelined him last week, and since Warren McClendon Jr. was already filling in for Rob Havenstein at right tackle, it meant going to a 32-year-old fourth tackle in DJ Humphries.
The Rams felt the sting. Humphries was flagged on two explosive Nacua plays and was also beaten on a 4th-and-1 run play to Kyren Williams that the Falcons thwarted in the red zone.
Jackson has returned to practice, and the Rams expect him to play Sunday against the Cardinals. What could also help the situation for the playoffs is if Havenstein returns from injured reserve to allow McClendon to fill in at left tackle if he’s ever needed, though Havenstein’s status is not yet clear.
Dotson has a murkier outlook. He suffered an injury against Seattle that earned Seahawks linebacker Derick Hall a one-game suspension for stepping on his ankle. After the game, Dotson was in a walking boot, and though the boot has come off, Dotson has only walked gingerly on the sidelines at practice and does not appear particularly close to a return.
The ankle wasn’t broken, though, and so the Rams have hope that he could return if they can launch a run in the postseason. That will require steady enough play from Justin Dedich as a fill-in, and he’s had moments good and bad in five starts. But returning to Dotson at some point, even if he’s not 100 percent, could help get the two-headed backfield of Williams and Blake Corum back to the No. 1 rushing tandem in the NFL as they were entering the Seahawks game.
“He is the real deal,” said an opposing defensive coach who faced the Rams this season. “I see him just knock people off the ball. He is physical and the engine of their run game.”
znModerator0:50 Week 18 Preview
3:20 Panthers @ Buccaneers Preview
26:00 Seahawks @ 49ers Preview
48:40 Ravens @ Steelers Preview
1:06:38 New Year’s Resolutions For The Raiders
1:09:00 New Year’s Resolutions For The Giants
1:12:20 New Year’s Resolutions For The Jets
1:13:50 New Year’s Resolutions For The Titans
1:16:05 New Year’s Resolutions For The Cardinals
1:20:00 New Year’s Resolutions For The Browns
1:22:35 New Year’s Resolutions For The Commanders
1:24:55 Week 18 Implications
znModeratorBrock Vierra@BrockVierra
Per Sean McVay. Regardless of what happens on Saturday, the Rams starters will play on SundayWyatt Miller@wymill07
McVay said he expects Tyler Higbee to be able to play on Sunday provided things go well in practice again today.Nate Atkins@NateAtkins_
The Rams are ruling OG Kevin Dotson and CB Josh Wallace out for Sunday against the Cardinals.OT Alaric Jackson, RB Blake Corum, WR Davante Adams, LB Omar Speights and RB Kyren Williams will all be questionable.
znModeratori don’t know what his aspirations are. if he wants to eventually be an offensive coordinator or more. i do know that he’s from this area. so i imagine he’s motivated to stay here if he only wants to be an oline coach. if i’m the rams i’m doing everything i can to keep him here.
Just as a general rule, OL coaches stay as OL coaches. They tend to become head coaches at a far lesser rate than OCs and DCs, and very rarely become OCs themselves.
An OL coach is a kind of unique position. They’re responsible for a lot, and that includes not just coaching individuals of course but coordinating an entire unit so they are all physically choreographed in precise ways. Plus they invariably have a say in acquiring new players (no GM in their right mind drafts an OL player the OL coach doesn’t want…that’s true of all position but it is even more true of OL). In a lot of ways, a team needs continuity on the OL–you can switch up coordinators fairly often but with the OL coach you want the same things year in and year out. So it’s not just that they tend not to move, the other side of the same coin is that if they have a guy they like teams tend to keep them. For example, the great Dante Scarnecchia, who coach the Patz OL for years. (Wendell btw was coached under Scarnecchia for 5 years as a Patz O-lineman).
znModeratorI’ve said this before but IMO it bears repeating.
This regime, with Wendell as the OL coach, has an advantage we have not seen for decades.
The Rams have a long list of good OL coaches, and a great one (Houck in the 80s). They’ve had Kromer, Boudreau, Hanifan. But unlike Wendell, those guys could not draft OL well.
2023 gave the Rams both Avila and McClendon. The last time the Rams found two good OL starters in the same draft was 99 (Pace and Tucker) and that took trading up for the 1st pick. Before that, it was France and Harrah in 75. So that’s 50 years. (Btw I don’t count Barron as good enough to be on this list, so I don’t count Barron and Ignito from 2005.)
The point? With Wendell, they can both draft and develop OL. That most likely means there will be more. 1 or 2 may even be on the roster already.
znModeratorJared Verse hit a top speed of 20.21 MPH on this 76-yard FG block return TD 💨
That's the fastest speed by a defender as a ball carrier weighing 260+ lbs in the @NextGenStats era (since 2016)
LARvsATL on ESPN/ABC
Stream on #NFLPlus and ESPN Apppic.twitter.com/nS2IZCzRCl— NFL+ (@NFLPlus) December 30, 2025
znModeratorNFL Researcher@NFL_Researcher
Highest percentage of routes resulting in 1st downs this season, per @NextGenStats:1. Puka Nacua – 17.6%
2. Jaxon Smith-Njigba – 16.5%
3. George Kittle – 13.9%
4. Davante Adams – 12.5%
5. Stefon Diggs – 12.5%
6. George Pickens – 12.3%
znModeratorAll three are impressive numbers, but…
Total drives against playoff teams:
Rams – 87 (8th)
Patriots – 40 (32nd)
Bears – 52 (31st) https://t.co/V945Wu346l— Josh (@JoshiosTweets) January 2, 2026
znModeratori’m happy that they finally re-signed a safety. i’d still like for them to draft another db in the first round this upcoming draft. i feel like that side of the team has been needing more attention.
Odds are very great (IMO) that they will draft another safety, because they can’t afford both Lake and Curl on big contracts at the same time. Curl is a FA after this year. My bet is they let him walk. They can then draft secondary (safety and CB) and build around Lake.
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znModeratorQuentin is so versatile. Below are two tackles this year from Lake vs the screen. He attacks and makes big plays, Chubba TD doesn't happen with Lake, for example. This is the best Guy on our defense after Verse and Turner pic.twitter.com/zl7GA1YNmY
— Ramsoholic (@ShayTweetedThat) January 1, 2026
znModeratorroberto clemente@rclemente2121
headed into week 17
passer rating on deep passes (15+ yards in the air)blue text = qbs for current playoff teams
tough year for mahomes
znModeratorCourse those stats on the Rams defense are for the whole year. But the last month or so, the stats are a lot worse.
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vI will do all Rams stats again, this time for the last 3 games only.
Offense
yds 2nd
points 3rd
yds per pass attempt 3rd
yds per rush attempt 15th
qb sacked percentage 5th
RZ efficiency (TD only) 20th
turnovers 22ndDefense
yds 27th
points 30th
yds per pass attempt 21st
yds per rush attempt 30th
RZ efficiency (TD only) 20th
pressure percentage 21st
turnovers 12th
znModeratorNFL Researcher@NFL_Researcher
Red flags for teams still in the playoffs (NFL rank)…NFC
🚩Seahawks* – 28 giveaways (31st)
🚩Bears* – 357.3 total YPG allowed (28th)
🚩Eagles* – 29.2 three & out pct (32nd)
🚩49ers* – 18 sacks (32nd)
🚩Rams* – 29.4 PPG allowed since Week 13 (28th)
🚩Packers* – 23 points off takeaways (31st)
🚩Panthers – -67 point differential (23rd)
🚩Buccaneers – 1-7 since Week 10 (30th)AFC
🚩Broncos* – 12 takeaways (28th)
🚩Patriots* – -17 sack differential (29th)
🚩Jaguars* – 125 penalties (32nd)
🚩Texans* – 45.1 red zone TD pct (30th)
🚩Chargers* – 56 sacks allowed (29th)
🚩Bills* – 140.4 rush YPG allowed (29th)
🚩Steelers – 245.3 pass YPG allowed (29th)
🚩Ravens – 245.3 pass YPG allowed (29th)
znModeratorBlaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
Rams QB Matthew Stafford has eight INTs this season.With 3 TDs vs. ARI, he can become the 3rd player in NFL history with 45 TD passes and fewer than 10 INTs in a season.
Other two: Tom Brady (2007) and Aaron Rodgers (2011 & 2020).
Brady and Rodgers won MVP.
znModeratorARIZONA
Offense
yds 19th
points 23rd
yds per pass attempt 26th
yds per rush attempt 17th
qb sacked percentage 25th
RZ efficiency (TD only) 22nd
turnovers 16thDefense
points 29th
yds 26th
yds per pass attempt 24th
yds per rush attempt 23rd
RZ efficiency (TD only) 27th
pressure percentage 29th
turnovers 17thRAMS
Offense
yds 2nd
points 1st
yds per pass attempt 3rd
yds per rush attempt 8th
qb sacked percentage 4th
RZ efficiency (TD only) 8th
turnovers 7thDefense
yds 17th
points 8th
yds per pass attempt 6th
yds per rush attempt 14th
RZ efficiency (TD only) 3rd
pressure percentage 7th
turnovers 5th
znModeratorfrom Kotwica’s resume on wiki:
Washington Redskins (2014–2018)
Special teams coordinatorAnd of course, McVay was the offensive coordinator in Washington from 2014-2016.
December 31, 2025 at 8:42 pm in reply to: The Stafford thread…update 12/31: huge S.I. article #160688
znModeratorMatthew Stafford Gave Up on History, But Is Driven to Make More of It
The Rams’ quarterback opens up on leaving Detroit, winning in Los Angeles and why he never considered retiring last offseason.Greg Bishop
https://www.si.com/nfl/matthew-stafford-history-rams-digital-cover

In Dallas, amid those glorious 1990s—the Cowboys shaping a dynasty, NFL television rights exploding—a young quarterback fell for his first love: Steve Sabol, more or less. This boy fell for football. And not just football but its history. And not even in preparation for his chosen career: pro quarterback, gunslinger, one star in the galaxy he memorized in childhood.
Young Matthew Stafford loved NFL Films, the lore-shaping machine Sabol cofounded, as much as anyone loves anything. He preferred clips unspooling in black and white. He studied Johnny Unitas, Bart Starr, Vince Lombardi, the sport’s origins, the AFL merger and his hometown Cowboys, throughout their most bombastic championship seasons.
Vivid memories. Afternoons rushing home, bunkering in the family room, downing Dr Peppers, eating candy bars and watching large men, playing for existential stakes, collide on TV. That kid, the one who treated football history like a mission statement, still lurks just beneath Stafford’s superstar armor, which doubles as his excessively thick—and long-ago thickened—skin. “Football was great back then, right?” Stafford says, voice teeming with child-like wonderment. “The Cowboys! And the Niners! And the Packers! Elway was still going! Just these unbelievable, great quarterbacks to watch.”
Outside of class and practices for multiple sports, Stafford immersed in cold breaths, epic triumphs and voiceovers delivered in ominous, serious tones. Everything dripped with vast, grand significance.
Which taught him that history mattered in the NFL.
Only in high school did Stafford dare to dream of carving his own space on NFL Films. He did even that rarely, thoughts bubbling up every so often. Like: “Would it not be unbelievable to be a part of that for just a second?”
This isn’t something Stafford discusses often. Which is only because Stafford, now in season No. 17, rarely discusses anything in depth publicly. When he sat with Sports Illustrated in November, Stafford didn’t expect to open any veins. He remains a private person in a public job. A nation of football devotees believes, after watching him play for almost two decades, that they know him. The shockingly small number who actually do insist most don’t know Stafford … not really or not at all.
In this interview, Stafford spoke with unflinching honesty, presenting Matthew Stafford as most have never heard him. Take those historical leanings. Juxtapose them against the arc of his career, in a historical sense, certainly, but especially in relation to Rejuvenation Season, aka 2025.
He’s rolling now, Stafford as you’ve never heard him, core football nerd with vast intellect and nearly photographic recall. “Frankly, the NFL has grown into this massive, [tons of] media, international game,” he says. “That’s helped everybody, sure, financially, all these things. But when I think of the NFL, I think of the Ice Bowl. NFL Films. [That history] just … enchanted me.”
He pauses, as if transported back to simpler times. When football history mattered, but his place within that lore did not. When millions didn’t assess his career for him. When wider audiences didn’t diminish his accomplishments. Or see his career for what it is—worthy of a Hall of Fame induction, no maybe, no debates.
You know, back when football history made sense to Matthew Stafford.
The morning after—in this case, Super Bowl LVI at SoFi Stadium—Matthew Stafford returns home after sunrise. After hours of swirling confetti, how-does-it-feel, parties, bro hugs, drinks, stories and I love you, mans. He hasn’t changed yet. Black T-shirt. Black jeans. White socks. He has just taped a podcast. Disney reps will knock in the next hour.
Stafford is, at long last, a Super Bowl champion. Write it in bold letters!
Narratives are changing this morning, as Stafford exits his house and strolls into the backyard for his Almost Famous moment. He’s headed toward … no way … come on … the pool? Yes, and the man in black is sort of bouncing and swaying as he strolls, the way the body tends to when epic revelry meets epic release.
His wife, Kelly, films from behind. “No!” she says, laughing and half-heartedly. “Nooo!”
Matthew takes another step, then half steps, half face-plants into his pool. He remains there, splayed out, floating but otherwise not moving, eyes downcast, head underwater, lingering and not for long but for long enough to explain everything he had carried in silence, the heft higher than anyone might have guessed. “Maybe I should grab him,” Steve Cundari, one of Stafford’s closest friends, jokes.
Cundari sees, at that moment, what Stafford never says. “He realized, ‘I f—ing did it. I just proved however many millions of people wrong,’” Cundari says now. “You could see the years of pressure and weight and hate and battle and injury just … evaporate.”
“Super Bowl champion!” Kelly shouts.
Matthew hears her and responds with a lighthearted, warm-water fist pump. Then: “Woo-hoo!” That’s it. He is excited. But not like he just won the Super Bowl that taunted him. Like he’s excited and exhausted and just won the Super Bowl, after not just all the losing but all the injuries and snubs and nonsense.
Stafford had fashioned NFL history, for himself and his team. Nobody could take that from him. All lingering doubts would vanish. Right?
The quote that projected Rejuvenation Season in Los Angeles still lives on a white board in the office of general manager Les Snead. Andrew Luck, retired NFL quarterback and current GM of Stanford football, said these words while meeting with the Rams’ scouting staff at the start of training camp.
This session marked Stafford’s return to football. From spine-neck-back pain. From four injurious years before that, starting in 2021, through ’24. And from another round of rumors—that Stafford might retire, that he would, that the Rams wanted him to, so they could slot in Aaron Rodgers.
Stafford put zero energy toward another round of falsehoods. He spent all his time, instead, in recovery. The pain slowly abated, steadily through Aug. 17, when head coach Sean McVay and Reggie Scott, the franchise’s vice president of sports medicine and performance, asked Stafford if he wanted to jump in the next day, and not for a stretch. Did he want to try full-go? He hadn’t thrown live in months.
Like, Stafford says now, “F— it. I’m going to play football this year, and let’s see what we’ve got.”
Snead watched with even more intent than usual. Stafford did far more than return to football. He carved up an elite defense for lunch. He wasn’t fully healthy; NFL players, especially those still playing at 37, rarely are. He didn’t need to be. Stafford whistled passes toward ace receiver Puka Nacua. He arced deep balls to Davante Adams, elite offseason addition, signed with another championship in mind. Stafford looked like, well, MATTHEW STAFFORD—an elite superstar who just might play forever. Snead and Stafford both knew that day. This season could end like the one four years ago, with confetti raining from the ceiling.
That afternoon, Snead asked Stafford to swing by. The quarterback reclined on a leather couch in the GM’s office. Snead started with the obvious. “You weren’t Matthew Stafford today. You were f—ed up. In a good way–Freddy f—ing Krueger.”
In Stafford’s story, this season—at once: joyful, relieving, expected, inevitable, fraught, transformative, tense and, critically, not over—represents an unfinished masterpiece. It layered a ghosts-of-seasons-past nature into 2025. Everything that has happened—and that will—ties directly to his longer football arc.
Few humans could understand Stafford the way Luck can. The pain. The glory. The nonsense. And the lines the best quarterbacks must straddle, incorporating everything—pain and glory and nonsense—forever intertwined, each heightened by the others.
“To be a good NFL QB you have to be a little f—ed up,” Luck told the Rams’ evaluators. “And you have to choose toughness.”
Snead pointed that quote out to the player who best embodies it: Stafford, back to being Freddy Krueger—to hunt for more history, more clarity and, most importantly, to take another celebratory plunge.
In only his second career game, Week 2 in 2009, his first start at Ford Field, Stafford approached Vikings starter Brett Favre. Stafford recalls feeling “nervous as s—.” He extended his hand, shakily.
Stafford: Hey, Brett, nice to meet you.
Favre shook it.
Favre: Hey, good to meet you, kid. Big fan of your game.
Stafford (seriously): You can’t say that to me! I’m a fan of you!
There it was: joy, pure and unadulterated—and not entirely borne from playing in the NFL. No, this joy stemmed from a childhood spent studying NFL luminaries. “You know,” he says, “history-makers, pillars, just unbelievable players.”
Playing in Detroit—12 seasons, eight of them under .500, with zero playoff victories and no season above 11 wins—took that joy and made it harder to find, impossible to summon. Ask Stafford, specifically, about those seasons, spent carrying not just a franchise but the franchise that most needed a savior. Ask him about lifting those Lions as high as anyone could. About never blaming anyone but himself, never leaking anonymous info to shift accountability, never even considering leaving until near the end of his final season there. All while fighting through injuries, mockery, hopelessness.
Stafford, the quarterback, improved in every major statistical metric. He became more accurate, cut down his interception percentage and still threw for country miles, behind leaky offensive lines, while the Lions yielded points as if they played for Etroit—no D.
Yes, he wanted to be appreciated outside of the Motor City limits, Stafford says, recognized for how he led, his play, all that lifting. Wanted to be considered among the NFL’s best.
In 2011, Stafford authored his first best-in-class season. Two years worth of injuries had healed, allowing him to play freely, with abandon; finding joy in footballs slung into tight windows or the parabolic arcs of long touchdown passes. He threw for 5,038 yards and 41 touchdowns, becoming only the third quarterback in NFL history to reach 5K, after Dan Marino in 1984 and Drew Brees in 2008. (Brees, again, along with Tom Brady also eclipsed 5,000 yards that season.) Stafford steered Detroit past all its Detroit-ing, through will and skill—and Calvin Johnson—back to the playoffs for the first time since the previous century. He won the Comeback Player of the Year award. Even shut up the well-he-doesn’t-win crowd.
Late in the season, Detroit’s team president, Tom Lewand, called. Votes were in. Pro Bowl votes. “You’re the third alternate for the NFC,” Lewand informed him.
Stafford’s analytical brain churned. “I’m, like, the fourth guy ever to throw for 5,000 yards [in a single season].” He considered that season’s selections: Michael Vick, Matt Ryan, Brees. Then he pivoted, in that instant, deciding never to fall into this Rodney Dangerfield no respect routine again.
Another vivid memory. Of letting go. “Well, f— it,” Stafford decided. “If you don’t make it now, you never will. If 5,000 yards and 40-something touchdowns and the playoffs for the first time [in forever] isn’t enough, quit f—ing worrying.”
Stafford poured his focus into teammates. He would be great for them. Forever that young NFL Films superfan, Stafford notes that he has, since, made two Pro Bowls, in 2014 (named an alternate, initially) and ’23—he also made this season’s roster, but after the SI interview. For the record, upon being named for the first time, Stafford thought: “I didn’t play that [well].” (The ’14 nod resulted after his passing yards and touchdown throws dropped from the previous year, amid a second playoff appearance in Detroit.)
But that mindset—focused on people who mattered and games they won together—had already solidified.
The historian, still pretty young, gave up on making history in the NFL in only his third season. He still refuses to consider that concept.
What was clear in college at Georgia and in his first 16 NFL seasons further crystallized at Rams headquarters in the weeks between Stafford’s first practice and the opener, at Houston on Sept. 7. It’s disingenuous to examine Stafford and not wax poetic in regard to that arm.
Actual historians might note: The NFL hasn’t seen another quite like his. As in, ever. As in, period. Stafford makes more throws, more often, that are more spectacular, than the vast majority of NFL superstars would ever dare launch. His right arm, in typical, metaphorical senses, is the equivalent, always, of something that flings/launches/propels objects long distances with great accuracy.
Arm strength is not Stafford’s only talent. Not even close. But when he resumed practicing this summer, Rams players and coaches admit they sometimes lost concentration—from the poetic nature of his passes.
Nacua saw Stafford layering footballs against zone coverage, feathers dropped in for TDs. He saw Stafford manipulating defenders into Keystone Cops routines. Saw elite ball placement. Shifting arm angles. Big brain allowing Stafford to see what will happen before it does. Elite anticipation. Zip. Nacua affirms that Stafford’s arm talent hasn’t dipped.
“If God were to make a quarterback,” Nacua says, “it’s No. 9.”
Consider all Rams awestruck before everyone else caught up with Stafford’s MVP turn. Adams caught passes from Aaron Rodgers for nine seasons, and he says, firmly, without hesitation, that Stafford and Rodgers possess the most arm talent in NFL history.
Adams would know that specific delineation better than almost anyone alive. “I don’t know why people have [underappreciated] or slighted him throughout his career,” Adams says. “But he is one of the all-time greats. That’s for sure.”
For most of his football life, that was Stafford, God’s quarterback, the positional prototype in real life. “We’ve had good plays [designed and called] versus certain coverages, and he makes them wide open. He does that all the time,” McVay says. “He makes amazingly difficult throws look routine.”
In contrast, take a spin through social media. Call the most fan-y fan in your contacts, that guy who wears jerseys every day in middle age. Ask anyone who doesn’t know Stafford, who hasn’t played with him, who perhaps cannot separate 12 (mostly) losing seasons from 17 years of (mostly) sheer greatness.
Ask them: Is Stafford one of the best NFL quarterbacks ever? You will get answers, but not consensus. Like all the losing in Detroit robbed Stafford of his innate ability to throw.
In November 2020, when Detroit fired Matt Patricia, Stafford told interim head coach Darrell Bevell he would address the locker room in the aftermath. His ribs ached. His elbow felt almost detached from his throwing arm. The season was over, just like the three before it.
Stafford asked his teammates to consider what football meant to them, to remember that history recorded every game. And if football meant what they said it meant to them.
Kelly points to that season, No. 12, as their low point in Detroit. “It hit me,” she says, “that we had been there, and he had gotten just zero out of it.”
By just zero, Kelly means on-field success. She’s not here to trash the Lions, past coaches or Detroit. But 12 seasons with zero playoff wins is … just zero. “It’s hard to watch someone you love just continue to put their body through hell without anything in return, without—I’m not even saying people noticing—just team success.”
After his penultimate game in 2020, Kelly broached a topic both Staffords had considered but not discussed. “Have you ever thought of leaving?” she asked, gingerly.
Of course. It wouldn’t be simple or absent bruising. But Matthew wanted to win Super Bowls—and hadn’t come particularly close, despite a career already three times longer than league average. He meant so much to Detroit. Detroit meant as much to him.
Stafford knew. He needed to leave; and, more than that, he needed a way out. The Lions could refuse. Few would blame them. He had to try.
On the morning after the Lions finale, Matthew looked at Kelly, then said, in his own, non-ominous NFL Films voice of vast historical significance, “I’m gonna ask today.”
“Very unlike him,” Kelly says. “I didn’t think he would ever do it.”
Matthew called on his drive home. He couldn’t wait. He had visited with ownership; had stated what he wanted, even though it hurt, those words, departing his mouth. “They were surprised,” he said.
He didn’t know anything for certain. Lions brass told him they would try but couldn’t promise anything. Still, support from management after this ask, to leave, still rings as “incredible” for Kelly, who highlights ownership, especially Martha Firestone Ford, for doing more than required for the Staffords.
That day, Kelly heard her husband, his voice easy on maybe the single most emotional of his life to then. “It wasn’t like he was torn,” she says. “He had given that place everything he had. My goodness. He was … at peace.”
The next year, in Los Angeles, with the Rams, after the rarest NFL trade—a blockbuster both teams felt great about—Stafford won. And not just a playoff game but the Super Bowl that had long eluded him.
He thanked Von Miller, the pass rusher who joined him in L.A.
He watched the clincher—an Aaron Donald sack—while bent forward on one knee, next to his new head coach, the one who wanted him. “Gets me teary-eyed just thinking about it,” McVay says.
Stafford playfully hit his leg. Then said, “Oh, man. You did it. We did it.”
Any anecdote from that day speaks to Stafford’s impact on those around him; as intended, always but especially from 2011 onward. So many detractors liked to hold up the best and second best single seasons by any wide receiver, ever, and then point to Calvin Johnson (1,964 yards, 2012) and Cooper Kupp (1,947 yards, 2021) like they threw footballs to themselves.
Zoom out, though. Examine the still-short list of the 200 best individual seasons by a receiver, ever. Stafford was the quarterback for seven of those. And not just the two wideouts perched atop the list. Golden Tate and Puka Nacua, too. (Nacua made the list in 2023 and has 1,639 receiving yards this season, which would slot him at 23rd all time even if he doesn’t play in Week 18.)
“I’ve been blessed to play with a bunch of great players,” Stafford says, acknowledging the obvious without diminishing his role. It’s playing with them that matters, elevating teammates into the history he worshipped.
As for … Matthew Stafford? “I [still] can’t even fathom thinking about myself in that role,” he says. This isn’t a “humbly” accepted Oscar. This is Stafford, sticking to the pledge he made in 2011. He’s still letting go.
Stafford’s body began failing him in 2021, during the championship season, long before the Almost Famous dip. He began wearing a sleeve on his right elbow and not for stylistic reasons. He had injured that throwing elbow during training camp, then made it worse by trying to fix the injury himself, right there on the field. “I tore my tendon off the bone,” he tells SI. “I wore the sleeve to keep the damn thing from blowing all the way.”
In the 2022 season, the Rams used roughly a dozen O-line combinations—in their first 13 games alone. Tackle Andrew Whitworth, who retired after the Super Bowl but remains a close friend, notes that centers whom Stafford had hardly said hello to were snapping footballs into his hands. Every time he threw, Stafford told McVay, the inside of that elbow felt like an M80 going off. “Nobody’s tougher,” McVay says.
The elbow wasn’t even Stafford’s worst injury that season, according to his wife. Stafford entered concussion protocol in November, then flew, with Kelly, to Pittsburgh to meet with neurologists. “It made me fearful,” she says. “Because that’s when this isn’t worth it.”
As the specialists explained head trauma, traumatic brain injuries and CTE, Kelly’s mind drifted back to brain surgery she underwent to remove a benign tumor in 2019. She turned to Matthew and told him, “If you chance [your future health], I’m going to resent you. Because there’s [former players who] don’t have healthy brains. And I don’t think it’s fair of you to ask me and your girls to deal with the aftermath when that shows up in 20 years.”
Matthew promised his wife after that season: If he ever experienced any concussion symptoms, he would remove himself, immediately. She never believed he would retire, not then and not now and not any time in the immediate future.
The next season would threaten that premise more than any injury. The Rams wanted Stafford back; they needed him in 2023. But there were price points, salary cap issues, a team to construct around him. Other franchises reached out to gauge Stafford’s availability, hunting for a discount Snead never planned to offer. “Wow,” Snead would respond. “Never.”
The Rams understood they had a “handshake deal” with Stafford. All parties would take each year and do their own analysis, which would allow them to focus on the present, not the next, say, four seasons.
Executives met with Stafford and his reps several times that spring. Tension elevated as weeks flew by. The Rams wanted Stafford to return. Stafford wanted to be appreciated for his skill and keep winning. He loved football, and realized his time remaining was finite and impossible to discern. Snead calls this persevering energy, which netted a compromise that set up another run.
The Rams still modified his practice reps through all of 2024. Stafford still chose daily pain, in every season from ’21 through last year.
Last year, L.A. started slowly, which owed to yet another injury; this time, the thumb on his throwing hand. Those who pointed out he threw only 20 touchdown passes, his lowest tally when playing a full season since 2012, missed why.
Stafford still pushed the Rams to 10–7 and, with a late–season surge, into the playoffs, still won a division title and beat the 14–3 Vikings in the wild-card round. The day the Rams packed up, 2024 over, Stafford told Snead, almost in passing, that he would return again. “I’m coming back,” he said. Just that. An epic announcement delivered via shrug.
“All right!” Snead responded. “Let’s circle back soon. Like, if you need more time.”
Stafford believed the end of ’24 projected a season more like ’21. He knew through the depth he witnessed in practice and the coalescing of the offense.
“I don’t need time to think about it,” Stafford said. “I’m doing it.”
He wasn’t after full health or consensus on his Pro Football Hall of Fame candidacy. Stafford understood he might never get either of those things. Neither mattered.
He wanted another ring.
Like Stafford’s historical bona fides, the Rams started 2025 amid doubt that grew from elements of fairness but wasn’t fair at all. After the Super Bowl triumph, over the next three seasons, Los Angeles went 5–12, 10–7, 10–7. Stafford spent each week of those in pain, which varied only by severity.
Then the spine-neck-back agony returned last summer, owing to an older compression fracture; the return was as “acute,” Stafford says, as anything he dealt with since his final season in Detroit.
In response to dozens of published reports, each heavy on anonymous sources, all hinting at his retirement, Stafford relied on the only source who ever mattered—himself. He wasn’t retiring. He had finalized another contract this past May—for $44 million, which won’t prompt anyone to cry poverty for him but is still considerably less than what other quarterbacks with lesser talent banked.
Stafford was older, more mature. He had let go of personal recognition. He knew what it took to win, and what it cost. His career had heaped pressure atop pressure—to rescue the Lions, make Detroit respectable again, win in L.A. and in his first year, no less, return from injury after injury.
Before this season’s opener, Kelly reminded him of what mattered. He loved his coach, team, teammates. He could play with ease, owing to lower pain levels (after the spine pain lessened). She encouraged him: Talk smack, celebrate and more vociferously, let loose, even consent to being mic’d up.
“You don’t have anything to prove anymore,” she reminded him.
Week 1: Stafford becomes the 10th quarterback, ever, to surpass 60,000 career passing yards.
Week 3: Philadelphia drops L.A. in a 2024 playoffs rematch after a blocked field goal at the final whistle.
Week 5: San Francisco upends L.A., in overtime. The Rams are still 3–2, their losses to elite teams by a combined 10 points.
Week 7: There’s that joy again. In London, at Wembley Stadium, Stafford adds dominate-for-an-international-crowd to his résumé, with five touchdown passes against the Jaguars.
He becomes just the fourth quarterback in NFL history to record 20-plus touchdowns and no more than two INTs in any season’s first eight games, joining Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes and Brady, who did that twice.
The offense turns 13-personnel groupings—three tight ends, one receiver, one back—into yet another fad started by McVay. Stafford tells SI he never played this much 13-personnel, ever, at any level.
That Stafford embraced McVay’s latest schematic twist since their championship highlights the growth of their symbiosis. McVay can design plays, counters and game plans with his—maybe you’ve heard?—brilliant offensive mind. Stafford can diagnose and distribute at the sport’s highest levels. Each understands the other better.
Both lost joy from ’21 through 2024.
As the first half of ’25 unfolded, both were also in the process, four years later, of fully rediscovering just that. Together.
Stafford continued letting go. Children helped. His family grew to include four daughters, leaving Dad surrounded by feminine energy but not absent critics in close proximity. He left football at work and parented with intention, driving the girls to school on Tuesday mornings and learning the newfangled approach to math instruction so he could tutor them.
He found joy there, too, separate entirely from football and accolades and Hall of Fame debates. Almost. Kelly saw four daughters who humbled him, because they’re kids and kids speak truths.
Typical scene: Matthew returns home after another football game. One daughter or several or all of them—their youngest, 5-year-old Tyler, is the most likely future pundit—rain criticism upon him.
“Dad, you lost! If you didn’t throw the ball to the other team so much (!), maybe … ”
Dad will respond, softly, gently, sarcastically: “Thanks, guys.”
He moves on from at-home criticism the same as all the rest. Won’t impact him at all.
Confidants want to share the sides of Stafford that remain largely unknown.
Like: He is the rare NFL QB who doesn’t wear a play call sheet on his wrist. This is not to look more fashionable. This is because he’s brilliant.
“A genius,” Cundari says.
“Intimidating,” Whitworth says. “I’m talking, and he’s entertaining me, because he already knows what I’m going to say.”
“He’s my phone-a-friend,” Nacua says.
Like: You’ll never meet someone more loyal.
Like: The man’s calves. Kelly likes to joke that she hopes their daughters get that from him, this underrated Stafford superpower. He jokes back, “Are you into calf guys? Because that’s what I have going for me!”
“I can appreciate his calf game is strong,” McVay says. “Sturdy lower half. Since he has been playing a lot of tennis, I tell him he looks like [Carlos] Alcaraz.”
Like: He’s funny as hell.
Authentic.
Swaggy.
Like: He has Brady’s reverse aging gene. Make no mistake. Stafford is ripped. So much so that Kelly sometimes begs him to eat dessert.
Like: He does pilates in the offseason.
They could go on. They don’t have to.
Nov. 9, 2025: Week 10Empty heading
Los Angeles bludgeons San Francisco. Stafford records four touchdown passes and no interceptions for the third consecutive game, an NFL first.He leads the NFL with 25 touchdowns thrown, against a meager two interceptions. Twenty of those have been delivered against the blitz, a tally that’s already the most NFL Next Gen stats has ever tracked. Stafford’s passer rating has never been higher. His yards per attempt has climbed back to 2021 levels. Related: The Rams have won their past four games by a combined margin of 82 points.
Week 11: After beating their long-hated division rival, Seattle, L.A. climbs atop all power rankings. Adams already has 10 touchdown receptions. Pro Football Focus is highlighting the offensive line’s run blocking as the second-best in the league. Stafford hasn’t thrown a pick in seven games, while tossing 22 TDs, another NFL first for a seven-game span.
Even Stafford must acknowledge the obvious: This is the best he has performed, statistically, in any of his 17 seasons. Proof is three game-winning drives and a winning streak that will grow to six games the following week against Tampa Bay. Five of those victories were delivered by margins of at least two touchdowns.
Week 13: The streak ends in a tough, rainy, road loss at Carolina. Stafford turns the ball over three times, snapping his NFL record streak of 28 touchdown passes without throwing a ball to the other team.
Weeks 14 and 15: Two more victories, over Arizona and Detroit, respectively, quiet any renewed doubts. Even an away stadium serenades Stafford with M-V-P chants. The Rams score 45 against the Cardinals, accumulating 530 yards of offense. The next week, they host Stafford’s former team, the Lions. Stafford throws two more touchdowns as L.A. gains 519 more yards. His success rate hovers at 54.1%, another career high. Next Gen says Stafford has thrown the most touchdowns this season from under center.
Many will say that Stafford has aged like fine wine. That’s not true. He has aged like fine wine that spoiled, spent time on IR, lost so many Food & Wine competitions, left for another vineyard, peaked, somehow came to taste worse and kept pushing until resembling fine wine again. Only this wine tasted better than ever before.
Week 16: The Rams, minus Adams, lose to the Seahawks, in the rain, in Seattle, in an epic game within an epic rivalry. Stafford throws for 457 yards and three scores despite lacking one of his main targets. He loses even after throwing a touchdown pass in overtime.
The next morning, his MVP odds … drop.
As he prioritized and let go, those closest to Stafford still encouraged him to open up more, especially in public. He had always been reserved, a celebrity who never acted like one, a normal dude who wasn’t normal at all, the champion forever clad in T-shirts and hats turned backward. “I wish you let people in, just a little,” Kelly often told him.
Those same confidants now wonder if the decade-plus of losing in Detroit, combined with how little Stafford revealed in those days, twinned to diminish how his career was and is viewed.
“People in the NFL that know quarterback play, they know the top 20, 15, 10,” says Jimmy Garoppolo, Stafford’s backup. “Outside of that, anyone can make any ‘evaluation.’”
Such “evaluations” criminally underrate Stafford and have for years. He wins, the counter-argument goes, while piloting offenses loaded with talent. Which would apply to every Super Bowl champion, ever.
Hasn’t Stafford lifted two franchises far beyond any reasonable expectations? Won’t his statistics, by the end, rank in the top 10 or adjacent in every possible category? Didn’t he already win a Super Bowl? And yet, deep into this 2025 season of rejuvenation, many still wonder, out loud, if Stafford must win MVP to make the Hall of Fame.
This season, after 16 weeks and 15 games, Stafford led all NFL quarterbacks in, well, just about everything: passing yards, touchdown passes, touchdown percentage, interception percentage, first downs, average yards per attempt, average yards per game, QB rating, deep-ball attempts, EPA per play and success rate.
After a Monday night loss in Atlanta with only (for him) 269 yards, that upped his season-long interception total from five to eight, he’s suddenly looking up at a couple of his peers in categories he’d led nearly wire-to-wire.
Many critical of Stafford’s MVP candidacy this season cited yet another supposed advantage—the sentimental vote. Narratives continued shifting. In 2025, his career record went over .500 for the first time. He added historical footnotes almost every week. So, if the vote was, indeed, sentimental, which is disrespectful to both Stafford and the voters, what exactly is the issue? This season merits MVP consideration all by itself.
The biggest, reasonable strike against him is the Rams’ record relative to their divisional peers. L.A. ranks among the best three to five teams in football. But three of those teams—the Seahawks, Rams and 49ers—play in the NFC West. The Rams are currently in third place in their division. But if that counts as a point for Drake Maye to win MVP, shouldn’t the fact that Stafford beat Seattle and San Francisco, already, this season, count, too? Shouldn’t the Patriots also need to win their conference? What about not getting the Dolphins and Jets four times in a 17-game season?
He’s not going to lobby for MVP. But he wants to win; he wouldn’t give it back or to another quarterback.
The only time his legacy comes up is not even at home. It’s when he’s meeting with one of the girls’ basketball teams or dropping them at school. It’s when teammates say they loved watching him in second grade. Stafford still refuses to consider his place in NFL history, even when moments like those force him toward introspection. “Pretty wild,” Nacua says. He sees Stafford only in that light. Stafford won’t even look until the end.
Stafford will turn 38 one day before Super Bowl LX this February. That would make him the third-oldest player (tied) to win league MVP. He’s not banking on that happening. “When I first came to the NFL, man, the shield really meant something,” he says. “Not to say it doesn’t now. But there is so much individual, global branding, so much star power, and not every voice is heard.”
Winning MVP would be deserved. Needing an MVP for HOF consideration would be absurd. “I wouldn’t need to see it to put him in,” says Adams, likely Canton-bound himself.
Contrast all this useless debate with what matters to Stafford: “The admiration, respect that I have for this game, it brings me joy,” he says. “Like, I love being a part of [the NFL]. I love being a part of this team. I don’t even think about [my legacy]. I still hold those guys up here,”—he raises his right hand, indicating a high bar—“ya know?”
McVay watches Stafford play this season and sees a family man at quarterback, who’s as healthy as he has ever been in Los Angeles. “You’re seeing somebody who pours a lot into the people that matter, and it’s being given back to him—this still, settled human who is totally present,” McVay says.
Stafford, in other words, has rediscovered the joy in football. He’s celebrating with finger-gun salutes, or land-shark shimmies.
Whitworth watches his close friend and sees that latter-stage glow from those NFL players who last as long as they did and have. “It’s almost like passing the point of no return,” Whitworth says. “He’s got a head coach who runs an awesome program. A place he loves to live. A family that smiles when he’s around. He’s just grateful and happy every time that ball slaps his hand and he says, “Turbo, set, hut!”
His daughters come to games now. They will remember him, the quarterback, even if remembering means they offer some, ahem, constructive criticism. “You can’t play forever,” Kelly says. “Nearing the end allowed him to have fun and play free. I’ll miss the hell out of watching him compete and do what he loves. But there’s also going to be a sense of relief.”
Just don’t expect such sadness/relief any time soon, barring another major injury. The handshake deal remains in place. Each year, Stafford and the Rams will do their own assessments. Never say never, but no one in his inner circle believes Stafford will retire after this season, even if he wins another championship and could retire, like Elway, completing the rarest sendoff in pro football—out on top.
For all the veins that Stafford opens in November, one thing he says surprises more than anything else. Listen to him detail the Rams, their locker room culture, the vibe in ’21 and the vibe in ’25. The impact of Los Angeles on him is as clear as the California skies most afternoons for practice. What then, will he do, when his career ends? Will he identify more as a Lion? Or a Ram?
He’s already split, which speaks to what they’ve built, together, in Los Angeles. “I don’t know,” Stafford says. “It’s gonna be a tough call at some point.”
Perhaps that tough call will begin with a poetic end to 2025. Maybe Stafford loses the MVP race. Story of his career. But maybe Los Angeles wins another Super Bowl and its quarterback earns another ring. Maybe that gets Stafford into the Hall. Regardless, what mattered is winning another Super Bowl. That history isn’t subjective. That history cannot be taken away.
Stafford, forever in wet blanket mode, says he cannot, will not, define anything just yet. “I don’t know,” he says. “I don’t think [my career is] done, No. 1. And I’m still in it.”
The teenaged historian gave up on personal history and rediscovered the primal, pure joy that drew him to football in the first place. Which is how Stafford became—forget the MVP debates—a Super Bowl–caliber quarterback again. And this legacy is the one that matters.
znModeratorInjury Updates: Tyler Higbee (ankle) returns to practice, Quentin Lake (elbow) to return to practice tomorrow, Davante Adams (hamstring) likely to miss Week 18, Alaric Jackson (knee) expected to play, and more
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Rams head coach Sean McVay said that tight end Tyler Higbee (ankle) returned to practice on Wednesday, but his status is still up in the air for the Rams’ Week 18 game against Arizona.
“We’ll see how the week progresses,” McVay said. “If he is able to go, it’ll be great to be able to get him some snaps before the playoffs end up starting, and if he’s not, then we’ll hope that the playoffs will represent for sure him being ready to go.”
Meanwhile, the Rams will open the 21-day practice window for safety Quentin Lake (elbow) tomorrow, but he and wide receiver Davante Adams (hamstring) are not expected to play Sunday. Lake hasn’t played since Week 11, and Adams since Week 14.
McVay declined to rule either out definitively for Sunday, but said the “goal” is for both to play in the Wild Card round of the playoffs the following week.
“It’s more of just to make sure that we’re able to get him a full workload,” McVay said of Adams’ recovery. “He’s gonna be able to do some different things in a more controlled setting, but just with the position he plays, being able to open up, want to make sure that we’re getting everything ready to roll and being smart with him.”
Meanwhile, offensive lineman Alaric Jackson (knee) missed last week’s game, but McVay said he’s expected to play on Sunday. He was listed as “limited” on Wednesday’s estimated injury report, as the team only participated in a walkthrough, as was defensive end Braden Fiske (ankle), cornerback Jaylen McCollough (hip), inside linebacker Omar Speights (ankle), wide receiver Xavier Smith (chest) and running back Kyren Williams (ankle).
Adams, running back Blake Corum (ankle), cornerback Josh Wallace (ankle) and offensive lineman Kevin Dotson (ankle) were all listed as “did not participated” on the estimated injury report.
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znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
McVay said they won’t start Rob Havenstein’s 21-day practice window yet
znModeratorNFL+@NFLPlus
Puka Nacua surpasses Michael Thomas and Odell Beckham Jr. to become the fastest player in NFL history to reach 300 career receptions (43 games) 🔥December 31, 2025 at 6:16 pm in reply to: The Stafford thread…update 12/31: huge S.I. article #160682
znModeratorI’m gonna red-bolda few of the less well known or less talked about stats here:
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NFL Researcher@NFL_Researcher
Matthew Stafford pass TD by situation this season (QB ranks)…🔹Overall – 42 (1st)
🔹Deep (20+ air yds) – 10 (1st)*
🔹Short (sub-10 air yds) – 24 (1st)*
🔹 Downfield (10+ air yds) – 18 (T-2nd)*
🔹vs Man Coverage – 24 (1st)*
🔹vs Zone Coverage – 17 (2nd)
🔹vs Base Defense – 15 (1st)*
🔹vs Sub Packages – 23 (T-1st)*
🔹Outside the Numbers – 18 (2nd)*
🔹Inside the Numbers – 24 (1st)*
🔹In Tight Windows – 7 (1st)*
🔹Inside the Pocket – 37 (1st)*
🔹Quick Passes – 26 (1st)*
🔹vs the Blitz – 29 (1st)*
🔹 Without Pressure – 38 (1st)
🔹 With Play Action – 18 (1st)*
🔹Without Play Action – 24 (T-1st)*
🔹Past the Sticks – 30 (1st)*
🔹vs Single High – 17 (T-2nd)*
🔹In 4th Quarter/OT – 12 (1st)
🔹In Red Zone – 31 (1st)
🔹On 1st Down – 20 (1st)
🔹 On the Road – 24 (1st)
🔹At Home – 18 (T-1st)
🔹Targeting TE – 14 (1st)
🔹Targeting WR – 25 (T-1st)
🔹With Lead – 23 (1st)*Per
@NextGenStats
znModeratorCan you think of a single time that quoting Henry V on a message board was followed by the Rams hot-waxing their opponent?
Actually yes. Back in the early herd days, in 99, the night before the Rams played SF (the famous game 4 of that season), a bunch of posters were discussing the upcoming game, apprehensive because of the 17 straight losses to the 49ers but also hopeful because Warner looked for real, turns out Faulk could run up the middle (that’s an obscure reference I know), and they had whupped Atlanta 2 games before. ‘
Someone quoted the Saint Crispian speech from Henry V. Not everyone understood the context of the speech and asked about it. Some of us knew the play and the history so we pitched in. My bit was to explain the battle of Agincourt. That it looked beforehand as if the French had all the advantages, but the embattled English took it to em. I explained the role of the longbow and put it this way (cause I remember that discussion): the longbow advantage meant the English took to the air early and often.
We all know what happened that next day.
FRENCH CONSTABLE, ie. the 49ers: “Why, all our ranks are broke.”
December 31, 2025 at 3:54 am in reply to: Rams tweets etc. … 12/27 – 12/30 … w/ some Baldinger #160676
znModerator.@RamsNFL @AtlantaFalcons @JaredVerse1 with this blocked FG/TD…Made it look easy….and the lucky fan who got the souvenir. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/VLrkHFwA1I
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) December 30, 2025
December 31, 2025 at 3:52 am in reply to: Rams tweets etc. … 12/27 – 12/30 … w/ some Baldinger #160675
znModerator.@RamsNFL @AtlantaFalcons Stafford to Ferguson TD…Rams are never out of a game. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/wkeTr2ozZT
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) December 30, 2025
December 31, 2025 at 3:08 am in reply to: Rams tweets etc. … 12/27 – 12/30 … w/ some Baldinger #160674
znModeratorJosh@JoshiosTweets
The Rams have attempted a run up the middle 26 times in a 3rd/4th down scenario with 3 or less yards to go.The team has failed to reach a first down on 39% of those plays, 5th worst in the league.
December 30, 2025 at 10:21 pm in reply to: Rams tweets etc. … 12/27 – 12/30 … w/ some Baldinger #160673
znModerator"I have zero level of concern with this football team, and certainly this offense and its quarterback."
Dan Orlovsky believes there are a lot of overreactions with the Rams losing to the Falcons 😅 pic.twitter.com/MmLRPXlOKh
— ESPN (@espn) December 30, 2025
znModeratorif puka had caught that ball at the end of the game, that woulda been hands down the best catch i have ever seen a rams wr make.
i mean it just slipped out maybe a cm??? out of his hands. for maybe a millisecond??? a cm away from snagging a ball one handed with a defender draped on his arm. while dragging his feet and stretched out on the sidelines. that was crazy.
I can’t prove this obviously but my bet is that if Puka hadn’t mouthed off, they would have given him that catch.
But to be honest it’s not even the best one I’ve seen from him. I said it before–Nucua is a solid receiver in every aspect of his game, but he’s elite in the phone booth at the point of the catch, especially contested catches. And sideline catches, which are also within a phone booth. It’s as if when the ball is within inches of him, all of a sudden all 4 of his limbs each has its own brain, octopus style.
znModeratori do have one reason for hope. if lake can come back healthy. not sure where the tweet is, but there was a stat showing the defensive performance pre lake and post lake injury. if lake comes back healthy, i think the rams defense could start to perform much better.
Yes. Lake. Maybe Witherspoon (ie. him getting his game back).
Plus Jackson, Dotson, and Adams.
Higbee too maybe?
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