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znModeratorI didn’t follow him at all, but I don’t think he was known for making poor reads, or lousy study habits, or a weak arm, or whatever.
Wentz was not a good leader/colleague. The Colts grew sick of his resistance to hard coaching. And of course he proudly went unvaccinated in the height of the pandemic and was outspoken about it. He basically is seen as having character issues.
znModeratorBut I dont remember people raving about Marshall’s ‘work ethic’. Was he known for the work ethic the way AD is/was? w v
Far from it. Just the opposite. He did watch film and his football IQ was off the charts, but he did not work out physically and in fact let himself decline.
znModeratorfrom https://www.si.com/nfl/2024/03/19/aaron-donald-retirement-nfl-draft-debate-rams
Donald’s second (and final) head coach Sean McVay had a pretty good idea of the future Hall of Famer’s talent when he took over the Rams in 2017. But, he’ll admit now there was no way he could know just how good Donald would get until he actually saw him day to day, and that’s the first thing McVay mentioned when I asked him what he thinks Donald has that no other player does.
“I think the number one trait he has is this mental toughness and this competitiveness internally, this intrinsic motivation,” McVay says. “I saw a documentary a few years ago. It’s called In Search of Greatness. It has a bunch of people that did a bunch of historical data and evidence on all these greats in a bunch of different sports arenas. They said there were two things that were common amongst all these people—there was a rage to master, and there was an ability to pick things up quickly in their domain.
“I don’t know if I’ve ever been around a more driven player that stayed humble through the success, that had higher standards than he did of himself from a preparation standpoint, and then an ability to be accountable in his game. He’s so unique with his mental makeup, his upbringing. Then, he has this natural strength, leverage, explosiveness, get off. He has the most accurate hands I’ve ever seen.
“That’s the one thing that I think people don’t talk about enough is he never missed with his hands. He’d always get those inside positions. His ability to break down offensive linemen and understand the nuances of how their game shifts and alters through the different situations that arise during the course of a game, it’s unique. When you ask him about personnel evaluations, what he sees, what he picks up on, the guy is so smart in his thinking and is so invested in his craft. That consistency has just compounded over time.
“To have the mental makeup to do all those things that he did for our team and, individually, the accolades, but still continue to push himself with the humility and the care for his teammates, it’s unbelievable.”
znModerator"It was a good situation, man," Jimmy Garoppolo said. "That was a big part of my decision. I just wanted to find a good situation, good people around. And I think I found it here." https://t.co/Onlho5wGPG
— Sarah Barshop (@sarahbarshop) March 19, 2024
znModeratori don’t think he’ll be another ramsey. but he brings similar traits.
This is out there in discussion of him but when I get from the Curl signing is that Shula wants to reinforce the Rams tendency to run disguised coverages. Because Curl can line up in so many ways and do so many things, you can set up it up so that no matter what defensive look they give you pre-snap, they can do almost anything post-snap. That, and I don’t know how many know this, but D.Wms, their signed-again veteran corner, is really familiar with match zone. So it looks to me like they are going with a young front 7 but behind it, they will be scheming up all kinds of things, and the 2 veteran signed will allow them to do that at a high level.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see their first 4 picks used this way: a running back (round 3?) and then 3 defenders, at least 2 of which will be in the front 7. Or they could trade down and have 5 picks in the first 3 rounds, in which case it could be a back and then 4 defenders. So they will be aggressive in the front 7 then tricky in the secondary. All while complementing an offense built to pound the ball relentlessly keeping Stafford upright and keeping a young D off the field.
znModeratorThe Season with Peter Schrager: Rams GM Les Snead on Aaron Donald’s Legacy
42:37 minutes
znModeratorDefensive lineman Jonah Williams plans to sign with the #Vikings, whom he’s visiting today, per source.
Williams had 49 total tackles and two sacks for the #Rams last year.
— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) March 19, 2024
znModeratorfrom https://www.the33rdteam.com/2024-nfl-free-agency-this-years-most-underrated-signings/
The Los Angeles Rams have been a defense built around disguise throughout the different defensive coordinators during the Sean McVay era. Last season, they had the third-lowest rate of static looks in the league.
znModeratorfrom 2024 NFL Free Agency: This Year’s Most Underrated Signings: https://www.the33rdteam.com/2024-nfl-free-agency-this-years-most-underrated-signings/
KAM CURL, SAF, LOS ANGELES RAMS
Kam Curl remains one of the league’s most underrated players and a two-year deal of $9 million, worth up to $13 million, is proof. Not only is that contract well below what Curl should be worth — at max value, the $6.5 million average is just 21st among safeties — but he landed in a perfect spot for his skill set.
During his tenure in Washington, the former seventh-round pick spent 44 percent of his snaps deep, 27 percent in the box, 21 percent in the slot and six percent at the line of scrimmage. He can be used just about anywhere that is needed.
The Los Angeles Rams have been a defense built around disguise throughout the different defensive coordinators during the Sean McVay era. Last season, they had the third-lowest rate of static looks in the league.
A player such as Curl will only help that given how many spots he can play at before and after the snap. He’s an effective blitzer, a strong run defender and can hold up in coverage. In Washington, especially in 2023, he was responsible for cleaning up some messes in front of him, which took away some of his overall impact.
Giving Curl the ability to move around more freely in a better-coordinated defense and a better secondary could unlock another level of a player who has been one of the league’s best at his position while not many noticed.
znModeratorTremendous dude – happy for Tre.
Rams WPMOY nomination in 2022, for community work he quietly did for years and thought nobody knew about it. https://t.co/ZNm7N4hJCf
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) March 18, 2024
March 18, 2024 at 3:13 pm in reply to: “the draft” thread … ie. not “the Rams draft” thread … #150010
znModeratorSmall school tape is a little different. pic.twitter.com/Qa33AqDQUI
— Lance Zierlein (@LanceZierlein) March 18, 2024
znModeratorThoughts from @gmfb on Aaron Donald’s retirement , how the Rams knew and prepared , and why the Rams building took pride in the fact it wasn’t leaked or public information. pic.twitter.com/Or0bDC5KcH
— Peter Schrager (@PSchrags) March 18, 2024
znModeratorKroenke needs to erect a Ring of Honor in SoFi and Donald needs to be the first person on it. He should have a statue outside the main entrance as well.
Then they should animate the statue and draft it.
znModeratorHow Aaron Donald Knew His Unparalleled NFL Career Was Complete
As Los Angeles attempts to map a football team without its star defensive tackle, coach Sean McVay says the three-time DPOY leaves behind a legacy on and off the field.Aaron Donald knew his career was complete on the night of Jan. 14. Los Angeles Rams coach Sean McVay got that message loud and clear the next day when the all-planet all-timer came into his office as the team was shaking off its playoff ouster in Detroit the night before.
“I’m full,” Donald simply told McVay.
Nothing was official yet. But the coach had all the information he needed.
“I’m just like, And you should be. You have every right to feel that way,” McVay said over the phone Sunday afternoon. “What an amazing thing. The words won’t do justice to the way that he so eloquently articulated it to me and just put it in a way that, as a human being, all you’re really looking for is to be at peace and to be happy. He was full. And, man, did you feel that. You’re just so happy because he earned it too.”
Coming out, Donald was seen by many, because of height, weight, and length deficiencies, as a player who would need to be in a certain scheme, and need to be paced, to be his best. But he proved himself to be a monster in, well, just about every system—from Fisher and Gregg Williams’s aggressive 4–3 to Wade Phillips’s attacking 3–4 to the more conservative Vic Fangio–inspired looks Brandon Staley and Raheem Morris ran. And Donald proved to be a player with unbelievable endurance: He played 90.41%, 83.57%, 84.47%, and 89.1% of the Rams’ defensive snaps in 2018, ’19, ’20 and ’20, respectively, which are absurdly high numbers for a defensive tackle.
Part of it was because physically, he was so strong, so quick, so low-to-the-ground and so good with his hands that trying to block him was like trying to catch a greased salmon. It was also, though, because his work didn’t stop with the physical stuff.
“He’s looking around and he’s the last one to put his hand in the ground,” Fisher says. “He knows protection. He knows which way the center’s turning. He knows where the help’s coming from. … He knows where the receivers are. He may not admit to it, but he knows formations. He knows exactly what to expect from a protection standpoint.
“The interesting thing was over the years, just talking to people, the offensive coordinator sitting up in the box calling the plays would have the mandate all week prior to playing the Rams, O.K., you guys got one job and that’s to tell me when he’s not in, when he’s taking a breath. They’d have like a separate call sheet for that. But when he’s in, I gotta stay with these calls.”
It all added up to, simply, one of the greatest careers a defensive player has ever had. Maybe the greatest.
“They asked me personally, where does he rank [of guys I coached]? He’s there with Reggie White, as far as the career,” Fisher says. “Different positions. Reggie was either, (a), a left end or (b), we put him on the nose. Reggie just couldn’t play any of the other positions, because it was awkward for him. The dominating player that he was, that’s where he kind of fit in. …
“Aaron was different. Just watch him. I’m so excited for him. I’m honored that I got to be somebody that got to be around him and the career that he had. When the great ones come, everybody wants to be part of those careers. It was just delightful to coach, he’s a great young man.”
Through our conversation, that’s what McVay kept coming back to, as well—how the person, the dad he is, the worker he is, the teammate he is, helps to complete the picture of just how impactful Donald has been on everyone around him.
Now, McVay is charged with charting life without him for the Rams.
The coach said he had a feeling, really, all year this might happen. Donald would take an extra moment during a game, or an additional few minutes with a young player after practice, or time to laugh with a buddy of his. He even went a little further with Christmas gifts this year, and those, to McVay, were all tells on where the veteran’s head was at. And maybe his way of leaving behind a little something extra for those he played with.
“I’m hopeful that he’ll be around a lot,” McVay says. “He’s welcome. I think the way that he lives on is you continue to honor his legacy and use him with the stories that you can tell to these guys. Fortunately, a lot of these guys have seen it, so when you reference it, they’ve seen it and you can use that as an example. His legend will never go away. There are stories upon stories. There’s evidence on the film. I think the things that resonate the most are usually storytelling when you’re really trying to paint a picture or teach a lesson.
“And he’ll be someone that I reference for the rest of my life as long as I’m fortunate enough to be coaching.”
znModeratorI get why so many say AD is the greatest defender to ever play the game, but I personally can’t rank it that way. I put him on the same unranked elite tier with the greatest defenders plural of all time–Olsen, Jones, Lilly, Page, Greene, Taylor, Reggie White. It’s very select company.
Rams always had a chance when AD played. Needless to say, they won’t be able to replace him with one guy. They will need 2-3 great ones for their defense to have the same luster again.
znModeratorfrom https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2024/3/16/24103004/rams-cap-space-aaron-donald-retirement-free-agency
Jason Fitzgerald from OverTheCap did a fantastic job breaking down Donald’s contract and how his retirement impacts the Rams salary cap. Here is what Fitzgerald had to say,
“Per a source with knowledge of the contract this was not a typical restructure where salary was just converted to a signing bonus. In this case the Rams converted his $5 million roster bonus, which was already guaranteed, to a signing bonus. They took $8.79 million of his salary, which was going to become guaranteed in a few days, and added it to his $20 million option bonus…Placing Donald on the retirement list would have caused the Rams to take on a $28.5 million cap charge at a minimum so this gives the Rams a little more room to work with.”
znModeratorTook some time to break down QBs selected in the top-10 since 1998. Some interesting trends emerged when evaluating which players popped at the next level… Experience matters.. Red-shirt seasons also help.. https://t.co/TyIJKG6uCz
— Bucky Brooks (@BuckyBrooks) March 17, 2024
znModeratorDarious Williams' $30 million contract with the Rams is essentially a one-year deal worth $7 million, which is a bargain imo https://t.co/mG9zfIVBcO
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) March 17, 2024
znModeratorThe #Bears are planning to sign former #Rams starting center Coleman Shelton, per @BradBiggs. Shelton started 30 games over the last two years for Sean McVay.
Big addition for Chicago. pic.twitter.com/0jfGuIPzVt
— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) March 14, 2024
znModeratorOfficially official. https://t.co/RVbb9TaVj8
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 17, 2024
znModeratorFirst retirement interview coming soon #itsacelebration #ad99 #ready #rams pic.twitter.com/i6bMT1muSk
— AD_99 (@AaronDonald97) March 16, 2024
znModeratorwho’s the worst clunker in rams’ history under the les snead regime?
Greg Robinson. Though, same draft as AD.
But you want to see bad drafting? The Rams had 5 picks in the top 50 in 1988. They hit on Flipper Anderson at 42. To show what they missed, I’m going to post a Pro Football Reference draft history with their overall career grade for the player. These are guys the Rams could have drafted between pick 14 and pick 35. The PFR grade is a number. I will put them in order of highest grade numbers. The list continues until you see a Ram with a high grade on it. Remember, the list includes only guys they could have taken. Instead of Cox, Green, and Newman, they could have had 3 of these guys:
Rnd Pick Team Name Pos. Grade
2 40 BUF Thurman Thomas RB 110
2 30 PHI Eric Allen DB 96
2 44 PIT Dermontti Dawson C 96
2 50 CLE Michael Dean Perry DT 83
3 80 SFO Bill Romanowski LB 83
2 41 DAL Ken Norton Jr. LB 81
3 74 NYJ James Hasty DB 81
5 125 HOU Cris Dishman DB 23 78
3 76 IND Chris Chandler QB 77
1 15 SDG Anthony Miller WR 74
2 29 DET Chris Spielman LB 74
2 36 NYG Jumbo Elliott T 62
8 212 MIA Harry Galbreath G 60
2 52 NOR Brett Perriman WR 59
10 252 PIT John Jackson T 58
9 239 MIA Jeff Cross DE 50
4 98 SDG David Richards G 49
7 166 ATL Michael Haynes WR 49
11 299 SEA Dwayne Harper DB 49
4 87 NWE Tim Goad NT 48
2 47 RAM Fred Strickland LB 46…
I have the benefit of hindsight, obviously, but if it were me and I were given a magic do-over, I would take Eric Allen, Thurman Thomas, and Michael Dean Perry.
znModeratorfrom https://theathletic.com/5336790/2024/03/14/la-rams-free-agency-takeaways/
Tendered: DL/OLB Michael Hoecht (right of first refusal, one year, $3 million)
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueKevin Dotson’s contract is now filed on Over the Cap. $32M is guaranteed, with base salaries of $7M, $8M, $8M respectively, prorated signing bonuses over 3 years amounting to $4.25M, roster bonuses amounting to $20.7M. His 2024 cap number is $12.6M but contract apy is $16M.…..
znModeratorTom Pelissero@TomPelisseroThe #Rams placed a second-round restricted tender on LT Alaric Jackson. It’s worth $4.89 million. Jackson is still free to negotiate with any team; if the Rams do not match a contract offer from another team, they are entitled to a second-round pick from his new team.
znModeratorJeremy Fowler@JFowlerESPNEarlier this week, the #Rams and OT Joe Noteboom agreed to a reworked deal to lessen his 2024 cap hit of $20M, per sources. New deal includes nearly $7M in guarantees and allows him to earn up to $14M.…

znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueChristian Rozeboom will return to the Rams on a one year deal, according to a source. The Rams didn’t want to put the $3M tender on him bc of amount, but incoming deal will include fully guaranteed money. Rozeboom had a choice to make between a couple teams but preferred to stay.
znModeratorThis is a good article covering the many, many, many questions about the cap implications of AD’s retirement and possible next steps over next several months (read: not right at this exact moment!)
As I was told, initial step upon learning of decision was the restructure to help https://t.co/xXbNnA6kvY— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) March 16, 2024
znModeratorthere’s certain guys who were just on a different level compared to their peers. lawrence taylor, jim brown, barry sanders… i always wondered what it would be like to have a guy like that on the rams who reached a kind of mythical status. there was marshall faulk, but half his career was spent with the colts. it never felt quite the same. i always would get a little envious when old rams heads would talk about deacon jones and merlin olsen. but that’s where i would place aaron donald. i got to witness one of the greatest nfl careers ever. at any position. and all of it was with the rams. it went by way too fast.
+1
znModeratorWashington Commanders safety Kamren Curl has played exceptionally well through his first three seasons. He’s become a leader of Washington’s defense. He also is arguably the team’s most versatile defender with his ability to line up as a safety, slot corner, and linebacker as a buffalo nickel. Curl’s performance on the field has exceeded his draft value as a seventh-round pick.
Amazing that this signing is so under the radar.
Also lucky for the Rams that the 2024 safety market is so depressed.
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