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znModeratorSam Monson@PFF_Sam
Even in his final year, Aaron Donald was just on a different level.Overall pass-rush win rate on 3rd and 4th down:
Donald: 28.6%
Nick Bosa: 28.1%
Myles Garrett: 28.0%28% is a crazy number. For an INTERIOR player to lead the league is even crazier.
Shoutout to Dexter Lawrence who was 4th as a freaking nose tackle.
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Even in his final year, Aaron Donald was just on a different level.Overall pass-rush win rate on 3rd and 4th down:
Donald: 28.6%
Nick Bosa: 28.1%
Myles Garrett: 28.0%28% is a crazy number. For an INTERIOR player to lead the league is even crazier.
Shoutout to Dexter Lawrence who was 4th as a freaking nose tackle.
znModeratorThe NFC West has run the gamut of quality in the past 15 years, perhaps more than any other division. Because while the AFC and NFC South divisions have been terrible, they’ve rarely if ever been stacked since 2010. Whereas the AFC North is stacked, and has had some softer years than others, that division has been difficult for anyone to win without a lot of luck. And while the AFC West has weak teams like the Raiders, it is so hard to get a division title if you’re not the Kansas City Chiefs.
But the NFC West has had every identity in the last 10-15 years.
In 2010, the Seahawks won the division with a 7-9 record. Then in 2011, the 49ers became a short-term powerhouse under Jim Harbaugh, followed by Seattle becoming one of the league’s most consistently successful team beginning in 2012 and that probably lasted until 2021. Then of course, the Rams made the Super Bowl in 2018 and 2021, winning the latter and making the playoffs again in 2023. Even the Arizona Cardinals enjoyed some success when they had Bruce Arians and Carson Palmer.
What is the NFC West right now?
This list ranking divisions by Canada’s TPS station, the NFC West ranked third overall and was noted that the division has sent at least two teams to the playoffs in each of the past six seasons.
znModeratorStanding 6-foot-5 and weighing 312 pounds, Limmer is more athletic than many offensive linemen. But do not miss the fact that he is a circus strongman. He put up 39 reps of 225 pounds, which was more (5 more reps) than any other rookie prospect. That is very impressive for an offensive lineman.
Perhaps the most descriptive draft profile passage was found on NFL Draft Buzz:
“Ultimately, Limmers draft journey embodies the classic risk-reward scenario for teams in the market for interior linemen. His collegiate success and combine showings hint at a high ceiling, provided he can bulk up and polish the rough edges in his game. For the team that calls his name on draft day, investing in his development could unlock a linchpin player capable of anchoring their line for years to come.”
– NFL Draft BuzzSo why did he fall? Well, among the polished offensive linemen options, Limmer presented himself as a bit raw. After all, his pure power allowed him to dominate the competition he faced. But in the NFL, he will need to refine his technique, and is already on his way to doing so.
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znModeratorKeys from/synopsis of last post: focus on the secondary. The collected quotations in this synopsis will get a bit repetitive which is part of the point. This stuff explains why they loaded up on versatile veterans in the seconary:
The “Fangio Defense” will always employ a two-high shells look before the snap. The two-high structure allows for flexibility in the secondary. The Fangio Defense uses the appearance of simplicity while encompassing a plethora of coverages, pressures, and assignments. …
his teams are known to be light on blitzing and with a structure based around two high safeties. These looks are predicated on stopping deep, explosive gains and living with shorter, underneath completions.Though the Fangio Defense uses different matching rules and variations within coverage that combine man and zone coveragesFrom its two-high alignment, the defense can rotate into a variety of zone and man coverages.One of the key features of Fangio’s defense is how everything looks similar before the snap.Figuring out the coverage before the snap informs quarterbacks where they should look first and how to progress from read to read. Making the coverage look the same puts more pressure on quarterbacks to compute more information after the snap.
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znModeratorSome stuff on the Fangio defense that Shula got from Morris/Staley
Cornerback Chris Harris, Jr, who played for Fangio in Denver in 2019, said this about his defensive philosophy: “It’s versatile. He has a wide variety of defenses. … You have to be smart to know how to play your spot, your zone, and your position. I think that’s why I’ve always liked it. It has so much. He has a lot of different looks he can bring.”
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Fangio employs two high structures, a base 3-4 defensive front, light boxes, and modern defense….The “Fangio Defense” will always employ a two-high shells look before the snap. The two-high structure allows for flexibility in the secondary. The Fangio Defense uses the appearance of simplicity while encompassing a plethora of coverages, pressures, and assignments.
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The safeties are the most critical piece on Vic Fangio’s chessboard…. defensive backs are asked to fill running lanes from a position of depth while being athletic enough to eliminate crossing routes.
his teams are known to be light on blitzing and with a structure based around two high safeties. These looks are predicated on stopping deep, explosive gains and living with shorter, underneath completions.Though the Fangio Defense uses different matching rules and variations within coverage that combine man and zone coverages, a basic understanding of field zones is important as we start to dig into pass coverage. The general zone assignment can turn into a man assignment based on the formation or if certain players cross certain zones. Further, certain offensive looks can give a defender freedom to support another player’s responsibility.What makes Fangio’s defense the best response to modern offenses? Its two-high (two deep safeties) structure limits explosive plays and forces offenses to stay patient and throw short. The front mechanics allow the defense to slow down the run with light boxes and commit more resources to coverage. Pre-snap, the defense is committed to showing the same Cover 4 shell for as long as possible so quarterbacks have to make reads after the snap. Even after the snap, it’s hard to draw a bead on what the coverage is because of how the defensive backs disperse from the top down. … From its two-high alignment, the defense can rotate into a variety of zone and man coverages.One of the key features of Fangio’s defense is how everything looks similar before the snap. Both safeties align deep, and usually one or both corners play off the line of scrimmage, so it looks like Cover 4 across the board or Cover 6, making it difficult for quarterbacks to identify the coverage. Figuring out the coverage before the snap informs quarterbacks where they should look first and how to progress from read to read. Making the coverage look the same puts more pressure on quarterbacks to compute more information after the snap.
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znModeratorRAMS ON FILM@RamsOnFilmThe Rams posted an outstanding record of 27-0 when Marshall Faulk rushed for 100+ yards..Marshall Faulk@marshallfaulkKnowledge relaxes me. Football is all about playing faster. You play faster when you know more.
znModeratorOTAs the Rams voiced a lot of confidence in Avila as he makes the switch. Offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur voiced that nothing is ever too big for Avila and that the spring is all about learning opportunities. Sean McVay added to that by saying,
“He’s done a really good job. He’s really smart, really conscientious. I think (Offensive Line Coach) Ryan Wendell has done a great job of being able to teach him the big picture because of the amount of communication that is required of that center position. And then obviously having Matthew there is a huge bonus to be able to lean on him.”
znModeratorroberto clemente@rclemente2121giants were sacked once per every 7 pass attempts. bills were sacked once per every 25 pass attempts.
znModeratorGary Klein@LATimeskleinThe Rams agreed to terms with veteran safety John Johnson, the team announced..me (@ moi.com):Johnson? Part of this year’s formula.
Veteran secondary. Veteran secondary. (Counting veteran in a relative way as 3 or more years in the league…though I highlighted the veteran FAs w/ 5 or more years): Curl, Durant, Lake, White, Williams, Yeast, Johnson.
Young front 7, including Fiske, Turner, Young, and Verse.
Aggression and multiple different sets/formations up front.
Match zone and disguised coverages in the back, all heady veteran stuff.
..July 4, 2024 at 12:49 pm in reply to: Stafford. You know, that Mark Stafford guy, the quarterback #151335
znModeratorTOP 9 Matthew Stafford Career Game Winning Drives
znModeratorBrandon Thorn@BrandonThornNFLHeaviest OL units:1. Bengals2. Eagles (w/Steen at RG, would be 1 if Becton wins the job)3. Rams.Rams Bros.@RamsBrothersRams tied for 6th least sacks allowed in 2023 and their offensive line did nothing but improve this offseason.
znModeratorI was talking about the more substantive subject of helmet rankings.
Well yes. Obviouly. That’s what I was responding to.

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znModerator% of 3rd down incompletions which were due to receiver error:
28% – Joe Burrow
27% – Kyler Murray
26% – Matthew Stafford
I just think that was a combination of things, all unique to 2023. Higbee and Kupp being beat up when they were on the field and not their normal selves. Nacua actually being a rookie in certain ways in spite of not really being one in other spectacular ways. Robinson not really playing till the 2nd half of the season. Atwell not really being a solid 3rd or 4th WR type.
znModeratorDoug Farrar@NFL_DougFarrarBeen working on this for a while. Do NFL teams really NEED true No. 1 receivers anymore? Those teams without one are moving more and more to scheme and receiver distribution and location (H/T @gregcosell) to mitigate that deficit.….Making No. 1 receivers out of the aggregate
“It’s more about the collective unit of all those guys and just the rapport that they’re building with Jordan throughout the course of the offseason,” Packers head coach Matt LaFleur said of his receiver group…. “I’m excited to get to training camp with them.
“All those guys had their moments where they were the leading receiver in a game. I feel really good about the collective unit. The hardest part is we feel so good about them, it’s hard to get everybody the amount of touches that you’d like to get, but that’s a good problem to have.”
It’s a good problem to have when you’re not dependent on one receiver, and you can scheme your receivers open to their best abilities.
znModeratorWarren Sharp@SharpFootball% of 3rd down incompletions which were due to receiver error:28% – Joe Burrow
27% – Kyler Murray
26% – Matthew Stafford
26% – Justin Herbert
23% – C.J. Stroud
22% – Dak Prescott
21% – Will Levis
18% – Trevor Lawrence
18% – Aidan O’Connell
18% – Joshua Dobbs
17% – Kirk Cousins
17% – Lamar Jackson
17% – Patrick Mahomes
16% – Desmond Ridder
16% – Joe Flacco
16% – Derek Carr
16% – Josh Allen
16% – Sam Howell
15% – Jordan Love
15% – Ryan Tannehill
14% – Jared Goff
14% – Jake Browning
14% – Brock Purdy
14% – Tua Tagovailoa
14% – Justin Fields
14% – Geno Smith
13% – Bailey Zappe
13% – Baker Mayfield
12% – Gardner Minshew
12% – Bryce Young
11% – Kenny Pickett
10% – Jalen Hurts
9% – Mac Jones
7% – Zach Wilson
6% – Russell Wilson*2023 regular season, min 200 total 2023 pass att
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znModeratorRams Bros.@RamsBrothersIs Cobie Durant in a “make or break” year with the #Rams? We don’t think so. Still a valuable, versatile piece in the secondary who was publicly endorsed by Jalen Ramsey (multiple times). The Rams moved him around a ton in 2023.
znModeratorWell, alright. I see that, and I agree with it. She is not an academic voice. It’s armchair op-ed kind of stuff, and a careful, responsible voice wouldn’t use the term “dementia” without meaning dementia. You know, I think that if I was reading that with my teacher hat on, I would stop a student in their tracks right there, too.
Well that’s a good reply. And I think implicitly you’re suggesting you like that genre of political writing more than I do. Which is fair. I think in this discussion I got set off. Thinking about it, I sort of realized I got set off because of the stories from my wife’s work. Mixed in with all the normal “X patient did this or that” stories are the stories of uncomprehending kids of elderly patients who are awful to parents with dementia. They do awful things either because they are inconvenienced by it, or insist the parent has it when they don’t, or deny they have it when they do (there are also many stories that contain those 3 listed elements that are also not horrible at all).
And speaking of genres I don’t respond to that well, to be honest, when I read my own “got set off” writing, I kind of cringe a bit. It’s not that I need to be rational all the time…it’s that my more irrational moments, aren’t good ones in my own eyes. I read people all the time who are really good when they’re set off. My being set-off makes me think I crossed lines I actually respect.
znModeratori could easily see him staying with the rams for a long time.
Yep. As I said above, OL coaches can be with a team for a long time…unless their head coach gets fired. Scarnecchia was Belichick’s OL coach for a total of 19 years.
znModeratorfrom: https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2024/7/2/24190991/rams-offensive-line-rankings-brandon-thorn
The Los Angeles Rams have invested more capital into the interior of their offensive line than any other team in the NFL recently, so you would hope that they have a top-5 guard and center trio going into the 2024 season. According to Brandon Thorn, a respected expert on offensive line play and author of the Trench Warfare newsletter on Substack, that’s exactly what the Rams have now.
.On The Athletic Football podcast, Thorn was asked to give four teams who aren’t getting enough respect and his final answer was the L.A. Rams:
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“I think this offensive line could be very good and that’s the Rams, that really starts with the interior offensive line which has a care this year going in to be one of the five best interior lines in the league. There’s a little bit of projection there with Steve Avila moving to center but he played center more at TCU than left guard, so I think that shouldn’t be too difficult of a transition for him. Then you have one of the biggest centers in the NFL, which is kind of cool, especially for what they want to do.”.
Thorn then goes onto talk about Jonah Jackson as a good signing as long as he’s healthy, and Kevin Dotson, giving the Rams “the most physically imposing interior in the entire NFL in terms of run blocking and considering what McVay has morphed into with this duo lead run game, this could be a lot of fun this year.”.
He then calls Rob Havenstein “unspectacular, but solid” and says that while A.J. Jackson has questions in pass protection, but is a “powerful run blocker”.
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Thorn not only sees the Rams as having a good offensive line in its own right, but that McVay finally has the right pieces in place to do what he wants to do in the run game with Kyren Williams and Blake Corum. That’s what could make the Rams a very dangerous team in the NFC.
znModeratorWell that’s not correct, and I would be embarrassed if I put that out.
It looks to me like he’s counting the post-season in his numbers. Seems to me that most yearly stats count the regular season only, and if you are counting the playoffs you should openly say that since most people probably assume those kinds of stats are by default regular season only. So for example we always say Dickerson got 2105 yards in 84, not 2212 (which is what you get when you add the playoff game from that year).
znModeratorI think there are signals that he is headed in that direction, and maybe that’s where we disagree
Yeah that is where we disagree.
For example about 40% of people will have some memory loss after they are 65, but only a minority of those are quickly moving toward severe impairment, let alone dementia. (And there are other sign of the severe stuff.) And that kind of memory loss does not mean that the person in question is suffering from an overall, general, simultaneous severe decline.
However, again, that isn’t in itself an argument to “vote for Biden.” Even if I wanted it to be. Someone can decide that their idea of a president is someone younger who does not have those kinds of ordinary geriatric psycholgy issues and therefore has a more compelling preseence.
I agree with the “imperial murder machine” stuff. That’s been true for a couple of centuries. Though I have to admit, that kind of bumper sticker diction never works with me. It just sounds like the extreme right turned upside down. I prefer lucid analysis. And of course people know the president doesn’t really run the country, but then…everything the Supreme Court is doing illustrates the fact that presidents actually can actually can have profound effects on our own lives and history. It’s not a simple thing. Johnson did a lot of awful stuff but then Thurgood Marshall was a blessing. There was nothing fake about that and the results have often mattered…even if they are always very mixed results.
I was just arguing though with her statement that the current president has dementia–which she did flat say. In fact her whole statement depends on that. See the president really does have dementia and that just proves that the homogenous oligarchy runs it all. To me that (again) just sounds like a Maga argument, but upside down. (As Chomsky points out, the oligarchy is frequently divided against itself.) To me it’s just bumper sticker talk and again, I tend to avoid people who talk like that, it just just feels creepy as opposed to enlightening or useful. And that admittedly let alone obviously, is not an argument either–it’s just personal taste.
I prefer it when the left acts like a big alliance. And in the present they all to different degrees really do recognize that the post-war empire was not a gift to the world. She strikes me as being a purist type who is always deliberately and judgmentally driving people away for not being “party oriented” enough. What I’ve never seen from her is dialogue. That’s just personal taste too so I will hereafter just drop it. 😎 Let a thousand flowers bloom.
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