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  • in reply to: 101, 07/30 + 07/31 – Venturi; Softli #2958
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    Softli is as informative and interesting as any audio report we’ve gotten on this camp so far.

    Interesting on Laurinaitis, for example.

    He upholds what we’ve heard about Quick.

    Stacy got quicker.

    Plenty more.

    in reply to: Michael Sam's Path to Rams Roster is Clear/Wagoner #2957
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    I went to two of the three opening weekend practices. Nobody heckled MSam. In fact, just the opposite. He was cheered when he made a good play.

    He draws no attention to himself and is not a distraction. Sam appears to be accepted. Several times I saw him talking to teammates, or a coach, when he wasn’t practicing.

    There is no drama with this kid. He just wants to play football and he should be left alone to do so.

    in reply to: 101, 07/30 + 07/31 – Venturi; Softli #2956
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    Tony Softli joined Kevin Wheeler to talk about the Rams training camp, Gregg Williams presence, Michael Sam’s weight loss, the Wide Receiver competition, and more notes from Earth City.

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    We will rally around Sam Bradford and we will play good football.

    But the very way you put that implies Clemens gets injured.

    Or. Something. I think.

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    This is a spirited team, as spirited as I have ever seen..

    It is also one of the best practices I have seen Bradford have

    The connection with Quick, Britt, and Cook is looking good

    It will open up our running game… right now, Quick and Britt were overwhelming our DB’s with domination, minus Janoris Jenkins, yesterday…

    Joyner has the fire for life and football that Rams players must have to be part of the team.. his interception was a gimmie, but I can still tell that there is something special inside of him

    Gaines got burned by Quick, and Bailey, but other than that, I thought he had a solid day… he is looking better than McGee in my worthless opinion…

    Chris Givens went out of his way yesterday to say that he is more than just a go deep one dimensional wide out… he was breaking them all off, and catching the ball with confidence and grace
    The big play to Britt over McGee might have been the best catch I have ever experienced in person… his ability reminds me of Danario Alexander… I still miss DA, oh well, he lives on in Quick, I know this for a fact, because in DA’s last camp, he and Quick connected in some way, because Alexander is an amazing individual, and that is what you have to be… I love when you go up and catch the ball with the great force of domination, but I also want you to respect this Earth, and all the life that inhabits it. And I digress, back to football; during the aforementioned play of glory, I was not watching downfield until the pass was thrown, quite beautifully spiraled by Bradford, I must say, you see, I was watching Robinsion push his opponent three to four yards up field, creating that illustrious pocket that creates wins, magically

    Timing, we have a defensive back drill that incorporates (Blank)

    Our defense is looking very rhythmical, organized, and chaotic…

    Philip Steward just likes to attack…

    Don’t sleep on Kendall Langford..Or anyone on this swarming defense of diabolical intentions, they will annihilate you from any angle

    This is the type of defense that will give any QB trouble, including Bradford.. so practicing against this ritualistically will prove quite worthwhile I do believe

    When I say ritualistically, I mean, that is the only way you can get good at anything, is by doing it the same way many times over successfully, without the fear of failure, because it is sure as Sun, the mistakes will come.. how can you push through your mistakes, will you turn away in fear and run? Janoris Jenkins doesn’t… he is unlike tye hill in this way

    Offensive player of yesterday: Sam Bradford
    Defensive player of yesterday: Janoris Jenkins

    #21 was the only one that I didn’t see get burned badly by either Quick or Britt
    Tavon Austin is dangerous in the passing game.. I don’t care for the quick outs to him, as they never seem to work, netting us in the vicinity of 3-4 yards, if we are lucky, all the while our dynamic playmaker gets hit hard by some random man with size and strength… we need to use him cutting to the middle of the field in the passing game, then work the post corner, which he can run also… he and Bailey work well together in space and time.. surprise… not

    This is a true team

    I know it’s a business, and it’s all corrupt as hell, but the men who play on this team, play it with the kind of attitude that I look at life with, just to dominate it all as one, together we can make it better, and ascend to where we know we belong… but to do we must also choose to dominate with Love, because there is really no other choice

    It was a great practice.. they call it entertainment, I call it the-experiencing-of-no-problems-or-cares other than the Team-Art that was happening on the field

    Rest assured, this team dominates as One

    Williams teaching timing well

    Robinson is very versatile for only being a first year player.. after the combine everyone knew he was a freak, but what we didn’t know was how smart the guy was, and whether or not he was playing the game for the right reasons, i know that he is both of the latter two now… Saffold hurt the team with a false start, but i did not see Robinson jump yesterday. Sam is working the count very effectively, keeping the defense a little unnerved, but they still get to him quite a bit..

    Sam showed an explosive bull rush that collapsed the pocked on the qb a few times, which is not surprising to me as a Mizzou fan.. his natural move is outside, where he uses his lean, handwork of domination, and quickness to get there in time.. he looked better against the run today as well… i am only keying in on him because he was an all conference player for my beloved college team, MiZ-Zou…haha, Bradford had to wear a Tigers jersey because of Danario, man do i miss having the opportunity of watching him play the game.. oh well, there are more important things than football, this i know, after nearly ruining my life in 2011, after having my hopes crushed

    anything can happen, but it is looking good, my beloved brethren of Horns!

    the length of this is shorter than the one i wrote yesterday, luckily it was deleted when i hit submit, otherwise, i could have never shared this

    thank you to all who love this team and share this team with anyone ![/quote]

    in reply to: what they;re saying about Quick so far #2934
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    One more.
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    Brian Quick – WR – Rams from Rotoworld

    The Rams have been “very encouraged” by the play of third-year WR Brian Quick through the opening week of training camp. Phil Savage, the Senior Bowl director and former Browns GM, visited Rams camp Tuesday and came away impressed with Quick. Rams coaches believe the production is finally matching Quick’s raw speed-size combo. Quick is getting a ton of first-team reps, along with Kenny Britt, and appears to be putting his game together. Quick (6’3/218) has 4.50 wheels and was drawing Terrell Owens comps when the Rams took him 33rd overall in 2012.
    Source: Phil Savage on Twitter

    in reply to: Fisher, (7/29) vid + transcript #2926
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    Rams coach Jeff Fisher on what trash-talking receiver Kenny Britt brings to the team. Fisher also talks about Brian Quick learning to go full speed at all times.

    http://www.rams-news.com/jeff-fisher-on-kenny-britts-trash-talk-thats-just-how-he-is-video-2/

    in reply to: old article…era of OL continuity long gone #2900
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    Pasquerelli says that in the era of the cap and free agency, the average NFL OL changes 1.75 starters per year. That’s at least 3 every 2 years.

    Given that, you can no longer HAVE OL continuity like they did in the 70s and 80s. No more world where season after season you had Smith Harrah and Slater.

    You can keep 1 or 2 key guys across several years. Not all 5. It’s impossible…unless you want to break your cap. In general, 50% of a team’s cap goes to 8-9 players. You can’t afford to have 5 linemen among those 8-9.

    So that means that the onus falls on coaching. As we know, one of the things Boudreau stresses is flexibility. During the season, you need to be able to count on some guys who can move. So for example, Long goes out, Saffold moves to LOT.

    If teams changeat least 3 OL starters every 2 years, that looks like it means that in 2016, chances are, Long, Barksdale, and Wells won’t be there.

    I think the theory is that if you build your line to BE flexible in the first place, it lessens the impact of things like that. Robinson for example will play guard, then replace Barksdale, and then replace Long. He can’t BE a guard forever like Harrah was, because that won’t be taking best advantage of the talent.

    While it’s true they had more continuity on OLs from the 80s on back to the start of the NFL, it’s also true that they didn’t know how to coach flexibility the way Boudreau does. They didn’t need to so they didn’t learn.

    Another thing is constant OL acquisition–you need bodies that are always being coached up. I know that sounds like it’s obvious but there’s a special imperative here–lines turn over and over, and yet as we all know all too well, line play is crucial to this or any team’s development (Demoff once called OL injuries the Rams “achilles heel.”) And not just acquire them, but acquire them by every means possible at once, with a lot of energy put in on each approach. There’s drafting both higher and lower (Saffold, Jones, Robinson), free agency (Wells, Long, Joseph), veteran cuts and waiver wire guys (Barksdale, and we have no idea who else), UDFAs (Barnes).

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    I don’t really agree with some things in this article. Just putting it out there.

    Stephen A. Smith Suspension Exposes ESPN’s Bigger Problem

    By Brian Lowry

    https://tv.yahoo.com/news/stephen-smith-suspension-exposes-espn-bigger-problem-013417782.html

    ESPN has a problem. It wants to be in the thick of things, to be part of every major debate pertaining to sports. But its commentators and analysts – rooted as they are in trade deadlines and X’s and O’s – can be loose cannons, occasionally getting in over their heads when pressed to address topics that go beyond their areas of expertise.

    Stephen A. Smith – suspended for his remarks about domestic violence pertaining to the NFL’s questionable action regarding Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice – is just the latest to engender controversy in one of these scenarios.

    First, Smith awkwardly suggested that women can play a role in provoking situations of domestic violence. Then he began apologizing and seeking to clarify those remarks via Twitter. Then he went on air and apologized some more. And then ESPN still opted to discipline him.

    But the channel can’t really have it both ways. If the goal is to be provocative – and those participating in these free-for-alls are, inevitably, encouraged to be colorful and bicker – it only stands to reason people are occasionally going to say questionable or offensive things, especially when tackling hot-button political issues.

    At this point, it’s hard to keep track of all the flare-ups. There was basketball analyst Chris Broussard expressing his faith-based disapproval of homosexuality in relation to Jason Collins becoming the NBA’s first openly gay player. Rob Parker was suspended for questioning quarterback Robert Griffin III’s “blackness.” Mike Ditka called Jonathan Martin a “baby,” saying he wouldn’t want to coach him, for the bullying accusations that resulted in the NFL acting against Miami Dolphins teammate Richie Incognito. Elsewhere, another former coach, Tony Dungy, created headaches for NBC Sports with his comments about Michael Sam.

    And so it goes. Athletes are people, after all, and thus the stories about them can be as ugly and troubling as anything humanity can dredge up. But a channel that obsesses so relentlessly over what city LeBron James calls home is often ill-equipped to do a quick pivot and deal with matters that touch on harassment (workplace or sexual), gay rights or race.

    ESPN has taken some steps to bolster its journalistic bona fides, from hiring Keith Olbermann – who, love him or hate him, has a background in covering news that goes well beyond the playing field – to columnist Jason Whitlock. For the most part, though, the network is too often left relying on whoever’s available to cover the story of the moment – a prisoner, like virtually everyone else, of the vagaries of the 24-hour news cycle.

    Corporate justice is never dispensed with complete uniformity in these instances, and one can argue till the cows come home about who made comments that merited a suspension and who didn’t.

    The bottom line, though, is that if ESPN continues to cover the breadth of sports in all its messy, complicated glory – and expects to do so by featuring people who spend most of their time preoccupied with the minutia of the game – well, let’s just say the PR department should keep several versions of a boilerplate apology on file, just in case.

    in reply to: OL v DB — Biggest Concern? #2890
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    I think this will be the best Ram Defense we’ve seen
    since the 70s.

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    I expect a lot. I am not sure I’m willing to go that far. But, I also want you to be right, not me.

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    Be warned: Quinn believes he can improve

    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/10024/be-warned-quinn-believes-he-can-improve

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — Forget for a moment the freakish athleticism. Put aside the elite speed. Don’t acknowledge the explosive ability to transition from quickness to power.

    All of those things combine to form the pass rushing terror that is St. Louis Rams defensive end Robert Quinn.

    Now consider Quinn just turned 24 in May and members of his coaching staff still believe him to be something of a pass rushing neophyte.

    “It’s scary for offensive tackles, not scary for us,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said. “He’s got a great future ahead of him.”

    Quinn’s past and present are none too shabby in their own right. Now entering his fourth season, Quinn’s breakout 2013 caught on as fast as he bends the edge around helpless offensive tackles. By the time Quinn was through destroying offensive game plans, he had 57 tackles, 19 sacks, seven forced fumbles and two fumble recoveries.

    Quinn earned first-team All-Pro honors and made his first trip to the Pro Bowl. In about a year, he’s not only landed on various top players lists but found himself near the top. Grantland’s Bill Barnwell ranked Quinn as the seventh-most valuable player in the league in his trade value rankings. ESPN’s Mike Sando and Mel Kiper Jr. placed Quinn second on their list of the 25 best players under 25 years old.

    But the scary part of Quinn’s age isn’t the number itself so much as the potential for continued growth that accompanies it.

    Put simply, Quinn can and will get better. For proof, one needs only to see his growth as a run defender in 2013. While his pass rushing abilities have never been a question mark, his struggles against the run often resulted in a rotation which took him out of the mix on obvious running downs.

    Quinn clearly improved in that regard in 2013, coming up with 26 run stuffs (solo tackles on plays considered an offensive failure) according to Pro Football Focus.

    That’s also the area of his game Quinn still sees in need of most improvement. Quinn spent his offseason working on a little bit of everything. He says he added strength and made it a point to work on increasing leverage and hand usage.

    “(I want to) be more stout in the run,” Quinn said. “I’m a smaller end so they might attack me a little more, so I constantly want to push myself to be the best complete player I can be and try to take any weakness out of my game.”

    While Quinn’s ability to stop the run is important, let’s be real here, it’s his ability to get after quarterbacks that will earn him a mega payday. For the record, the Rams have him under control for less than $10 million total over the next two seasons, but don’t be surprised if the Rams start extension talks with him next offseason.

    When that time comes, however, there’s a very real chance Quinn will have done nothing but increase his standing as the league’s best 4-3 defensive end.

    Quinn’s speed off the edge and agility to bend around tackles is so jarring that he often beats offensive tackles by simply running around them. But there are ways he can better use his hands to disengage blockers, and he’d like to add more counter moves to his arsenal.

    Sack King

    A breakdown of Robert Quinn’s 19 sacks in the St. Louis Rams’ 2013 season.

    Sacks by quarter
    First 6
    Second 6
    Third 2
    Fourth 5
    Sacks by point differential
    Tied games 4
    Rams trailing by 0-9 points 5
    Rams trailing by 10+ points 1
    Rams leading by 0-9 points 2
    Rams leading by 10+ points 7

    “Pass rushing is an art and you can get better at it,” Fisher said. “You can anticipate, you can get better with counter moves, get better on each opponent. He’s taking a lot of time, studying, and I think he knows how to approach each opponent week in and week out, he understands the system very well. One would think he’d probably have better numbers than he did last year.”

    Improving upon 2013 will be tough but if he can do it, Quinn has a chance to approach Michael Strahan’s season sack record of 22.5.

    One way that could be possible is for the Rams to more consistently build a lead in games. Nine of Quinn’s sacks came with the Rams leading and four more came in tied games in 2013.

    On the rare occasions when the Rams held a double-digit advantage, Quinn was at his best. Six of his final eight sacks came with the Rams leading by at least 10.

    And though Quinn figures to draw more attention from blockers, the Rams have plenty of other linemen more than capable of generating pressure and a defensive coordinator in Gregg Williams who can create it with blitzes if necessary.

    Fellow end William Hayes, who is part of that defensive line depth, doesn’t believe additional attention will affect Quinn. He’s just too much to handle.

    “Rob’s not just cool with what he had last year,” Hayes said. “Rob wants to be the best. Rob’s the best football player I’ve ever seen in my life. I’m saying at any position. He does stuff I’ve never seen. He’s special.”

    In discussing his goals for 2014, Quinn has played coy. He offered a resounding “maybe” when first asked if he was targeting Strahan’s record. After asking if he could plead the fifth when asked again, Quinn acknowledged that it’s at least crossed his mind.

    “I’m sure any D-lineman or anybody coming for sacks wants to take down that record but you’ve got to go one sack at a time,” Quinn said. “I’ve got a lot of work to do to better myself.”

    For those who stand in his way, it’s a terrifying idea. What makes it worse is that it’s true.

    in reply to: Camp Report 7/29/14 (+ follow-up) #2871
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    about the 3-3-5 nickel [or “30 nickel”]… The thing that the 30 Nickel provides, is the presence of BOTH the extra DB to counter the 3 WR sets, but also the extra LB to handle the potential for the running game.

    If I remember correctly that’s a defense the Patz used against the Rams in their superbowl. They basically just took out a linebacker and played a DB. Of course it’s different in the 4/3 where what you do is sit a DL and play a DB.

    Another advantage of the 30 nickel is that you can pass rush a linebacker. That lets you rush 4 and drop 7, but the offense doesn’t know who the 4th pass rusher will be (since of course it could be any one of the 3 linebackers).

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    Stephen A. Smith Suspension Exposes ESPN’s Bigger Problem

    By Brian Lowry

    https://tv.yahoo.com/news/stephen-smith-suspension-exposes-espn-bigger-problem-013417782.html

    ESPN has a problem. It wants to be in the thick of things, to be part of every major debate pertaining to sports. But its commentators and analysts – rooted as they are in trade deadlines and X’s and O’s – can be loose cannons, occasionally getting in over their heads when pressed to address topics that go beyond their areas of expertise.

    Stephen A. Smith – suspended for his remarks about domestic violence pertaining to the NFL’s questionable action regarding Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice – is just the latest to engender controversy in one of these scenarios.

    First, Smith awkwardly suggested that women can play a role in provoking situations of domestic violence. Then he began apologizing and seeking to clarify those remarks via Twitter. Then he went on air and apologized some more. And then ESPN still opted to discipline him.

    But the channel can’t really have it both ways. If the goal is to be provocative – and those participating in these free-for-alls are, inevitably, encouraged to be colorful and bicker – it only stands to reason people are occasionally going to say questionable or offensive things, especially when tackling hot-button political issues.

    At this point, it’s hard to keep track of all the flare-ups. There was basketball analyst Chris Broussard expressing his faith-based disapproval of homosexuality in relation to Jason Collins becoming the NBA’s first openly gay player. Rob Parker was suspended for questioning quarterback Robert Griffin III’s “blackness.” Mike Ditka called Jonathan Martin a “baby,” saying he wouldn’t want to coach him, for the bullying accusations that resulted in the NFL acting against Miami Dolphins teammate Richie Incognito. Elsewhere, another former coach, Tony Dungy, created headaches for NBC Sports with his comments about Michael Sam.

    And so it goes. Athletes are people, after all, and thus the stories about them can be as ugly and troubling as anything humanity can dredge up. But a channel that obsesses so relentlessly over what city LeBron James calls home is often ill-equipped to do a quick pivot and deal with matters that touch on harassment (workplace or sexual), gay rights or race.

    ESPN has taken some steps to bolster its journalistic bona fides, from hiring Keith Olbermann – who, love him or hate him, has a background in covering news that goes well beyond the playing field – to columnist Jason Whitlock. For the most part, though, the network is too often left relying on whoever’s available to cover the story of the moment – a prisoner, like virtually everyone else, of the vagaries of the 24-hour news cycle.

    Corporate justice is never dispensed with complete uniformity in these instances, and one can argue till the cows come home about who made comments that merited a suspension and who didn’t.

    The bottom line, though, is that if ESPN continues to cover the breadth of sports in all its messy, complicated glory – and expects to do so by featuring people who spend most of their time preoccupied with the minutia of the game – well, let’s just say the PR department should keep several versions of a boilerplate apology on file, just in case.

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    DBacks-Joyner is a revelation…had the receivers frustrated all day long.

    EJ Gaines had looked consistently good the three days so far

    That right there is an interesting development.

    Did they get 2 corners in one draft? (Though of course Joyner is a nickel.)

    If so, man that would be huge.

    in reply to: Hayes close to return after offseason in body shop/PD #2855
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    That was a good one.

    Hayes played hurt the last 2 seasons.

    And it’s impossible to not admire his spirit.

    “I want to get in the postseason,” Hayes said. “That’s what it’s all about. I’m a team guy. I don’t care about accolades. If that was the case, I could have went somewhere and been the starter.

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    also. contrast that with the wr group. where it seems to be nothing but positive vibes despite a young group of guys.

    Way it’s looking to me right now, no matter how the secondary plays this year…bad, passable, decent, pretty good, good…it will be the big draft target.

    They have tried to nail together a bunch of UDFAs and lower picks. Jenkins and Joyner are the highest (both 2s) but then there’s Johnson (4th), McGee (5th), Gaines (6th), McDonald (3rd), McLeod (UDFA), Alexander (4th).

    So I think they will apply the next draft to OL and DBs.

    And having said all that for all we know the secondary plays well enough this year to support a top front 7.

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    You know I always thought the thing with Quick was mentality. You could see that hangdog demeanor when he made mistakes in games. I suppose I thought confidence can’t be coached but then one of Fisher’s abilities is giving players confidence. I was not high on adding Britt but sometimes strange things happen.

    If this carries over it will be huge.

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    some follow-up…this will keep expanding over the days

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    CoachO

    When Brockers got here, he looked like a big kid who was just starting to grow into his body. Now he has the look of a grown man, and I expect him to have a dominant year.

    As is the case with much of the 1st unit D-Line, they are giving the make shift O-Line all it can handle. No worries from me about Brockers.

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    Until they went to the 2 minute drill at the end of practice, only ONE pass of Bradford’s hit the ground, and that was a 50/50 in the end zone (30 yard pass to Quick) that just went off his hands as he jumped with McGee.

    Bradford looks very comfortable, and there is absolutely no signs of any issues with his knee. Rollouts, stepping up and sliding in the pocket. All evident.

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    Not sure what is going on with Givens, but it seems to be a carry over from the OTA I attended. The other thing, be it Givens or Pettis, who have been paired up, and even to a lesser extent with the Bailey and Austin pairing, they have simply been out played by Britt and Quick recently. Whether than changes, remains to be seen.

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    Both Britt and Quick seem to catch almost everything they can get their hands on. [Quick has]..been the best player on the field. There is no comparison in what he is showing this year compared to past camps. There is a swagger about him that has NEVER been visible before, and he making all the plays. And FINALLY using his size and body to his advantage.

    I will be the first one to admit to buying into leading the charge on the Quick bandwagon in the past. But what’s different from previous camps is there is finally a swagger to him. I mentioned in my report from Sunday that there was a brief exchange between him and Joyner. In past years, Quick having the pass knocked from his grasp and roughed up some, would have tucked his tail between his legs, dropped his head and sulked back to the huddle. NOT SUNDAY. He quickly turned and challenged Joyner, as if to say,, you ain’t doing that to me. He finally has the look like he knows he belongs.

    He can be seen tossing the ball in the air when on the sideline, where before, he tried to hide behind anyone who would shield him from Coach Sherman. Now he looks to be chomping at the bit to get back on the field. I know all that means squat unless it carries over on Sundays starting in Sept. But I cannot exaggerate the point enough.. .he LOOKS like a different player out there, and playing with Britt can only help.

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    The WRs are definitely improved, and would be if it weren’t anyone else but Quick. But add Britt to the mix, Bailey and Austin with a year under their belt, and an obvious comfort level in the offense, and they are playing at a much higher level than this time a year ago. (Maybe Fisher and Snead knew what they were talking about).

    The other thing that definitely plays a factor in this, is the way the practices are structured. They are tilted heavily in favor of the offense, in that even if 3 guys converge on the QB, he is still allowed to get the pass off, to run the play to completion. Especially against our defensive front, there are contless plays that would end up in sacks or throw aways if this were live action.

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    now here’s the “ugly”!!!!! The corners.

    Jenkins had a much better practice today, than on Sunday, and he wasn’t the target of many of the big plays today. That would be Brandon McGee, who in Tru Johnson’s absence, has shown we are woefully thin at CB if he is the “next man up”. Neither he or Woodard have shown much of anything, and its difficult to say which has had more struggles.

    Joyner has shown to be a capable answer in the Nickel role, and Gaines has flashed some very good instincts. He just seems to “get it”. He jumps routes when he reads them. He knows when to back off as to not get blown past in other routes. But even he has had his moments, especially if lined up vs. Quick or Bailey.

    Reid and Roberson have been so limited in terms of the number of reps, it’s impossible to evaluate them fairly. That being said, Roberson shows some coverage skills, but shies away from anything that remotely looks like anything physical. Reid just hasn’t had many opportunities to show anything one way or another.

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    July 30

    * Moe is catching everything thrown his way, the problem is, not much of that is happening thus far in the 11 on 11 stuff. He is only getting a handful of reps lately, sharing 3rd team reps with Givens being relegated to those reps, and Blake, Franklin and Veltung all working in there too.

    Fisher has said numerous times, there just aren’t enough reps to go around with the limited amount of actual “on field” practice time they get with the new CBA. They have 11 WRs in camp right now. So its gonna be touch sledding for guys like Moe.

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    Austin is getting a few reps out of the backfield every day. It remains to be seen how much this will translate into the scheme once they get to Sept.

    What I see developing, given the amount of reps being alloted to Quick and Britt, is that Bailey (when he gets back) and Austin may be used in some 2 WR sets, spelling Britt and Austin.

    Otherwise, they seem to be putting Austin out there in the slot when Britt and Quick are on the field. or as i noted, Kendricks or HArkey, depending on the personnel grouping they are going for.

    But, from what they are showing thus far in camp, Bailey will certainly be a part of the rotation in some capacity. Givens may be the guy who gets the reprieve during the suspension, but how they intend on fitting him in, remains to be seen. And Pettis is Pettis.

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    Gilbert has had his moments, both good and bad. He definitely passes the “look” test. Good arm strength, mobility in the pocket, etc. AS to be expected, he has trouble getting through his reads, and often holds the ball too long. He has a couple of WOW throws to give you a taste of what he is capable of. Then turns right around and throws a couple of BAD interceptions when missing on his reads.

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    about the 3-3-5 nickel [or “30 nickel”]... The thing that the 30 Nickel provides, is the presence of BOTH the extra DB to counter the 3 WR sets, but also the extra LB to handle the potential for the running game. It is best utilized in 3rd and short (3rd and 2-4), where the threat for the offense to do either is legitimate. So having Dunbar remain on the field to handle the potential for the running game makes more sense to me. Which also lends to having BROCKERS man the middle of the d-line.

    Ogletree matches up with the TE, or RB, McDonald on the opposite side has the same responsibilities, and Joyner covers the slot WR. That frees up Laurinaitis and Dunbar to stop any potential rushing attempt. Bottom line, its one of the sub packages that will have some value, and I expect to see it on a limited basis in the right situations.

    It’s not new. Even to this team. Spagnuolo ran a version of it when he was here. Fisher has used it sporadically in his 2 years here. Do I think it will be used often? No. Obviously, it depends on the down and distance, and the opponent, but there may be 5 or 6 snaps a game where you see it.

    It has its place. Again, IMO, it’s a defense that can be effective in those 3rd and short situations, when the offense brings in the 3WR set, but still is in a manageable distance that running that ball can get them the 1st down.

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    Unless I am mistaken, it has been since the 2011 Season since [Reid] ..has seen any live action. Two knee surgeries later, he just doesn’t seem to have the same spark. He has appeared bored, and uninterested, and about the only time you see him running around is when he is fielding punts from the jugs machine before practice.

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    Joseph is as advertised, he plays with a mean streak. He seems to be holding up well enough from his knee issues. He has participated in EVERY 1st unit rep since camp opened at RG and hasn’t missed any of the unit drills either. It appears we may have hit on this off season acquisition. Not saying he is likely to start over Saffold (assuming Long is back), but he will provide some legitimate depth at G.

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    Conrath came to camp looking like he spent a LOT of time in the weight room. For all of the talk about how Barrett Jones reshaped his body, the two guys who stand out to me, are Hooey and Conrath.

    He is getting regular reps with the 2’s and an occasional situational rep with the 1’s. I really they like him a lot. They love his height, and reach. Again, I know its early, but i could actually see a scenario develop where he is competing with Carrington for the last roster spot in the DL

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    Rams Head Coach Jeff Fisher – July 29, 2014

    (On what impressed him the most about the first day of practice in pads)
    “Today was the first time we had everybody in pads. Yesterday, we had a special teams practice with pads and the young guys kind of got use to it, but today was really what we expected. They love to practice, they protect each other, no issues except we made a lot of big plays on both sides of the ball today. It’s good to see them. Tomorrow’s the break, they get the day off, they get to recover and then we’ll have three solid days in Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.”

    (On WR Kenny Britt’s chatter and what he thinks it does for the energy in practice)
    “That’s just how he is. He has fun with it and they all have fun with it. I’ve reminded him that if you spin the ball in front of an opponent after you score a touchdown you’re kicking off at the 15 yard-line and so we’re not going to do that anymore. But he’s very emotional, he loves playing the game, he feels good and he’s making a lot of plays for us.”

    (On if Britt is having a positive impact on WR Brian Quick)
    “Yeah you can see. One thing about Kenny is that Kenny may make a mistake as far as an incorrect route here and there, but he does it going full speed. And Brian early on in his career if he wasn’t sure, he wasn’t quite at full speed. I think Brian’s learned just to go. Good things happen when you’re running hard.”

    (On DE Michael Sam’s first day in pads with the full squad)
    “Well, he was in the pads yesterday with special teams, but he competed with the rest of them. I haven’t seen the pass rush but it looked like he held his own in the team periods.”

    (On how Sam has been fitting in)
    “He’s been doing a great job. We’re treating him just like all the other rookies in the rookie class.”

    (On what Sam needs to do to make the team)
    “No different than the rest of the rookie class. They have to be competitive, they have to make plays, they have to improve throughout camp. You have to see them do things in preseason games.”

    (On DE Robert Quinn’s room to develop)
    “Yeah, he really thinks he does. He thinks he can get better, he’s working at it. The plays that he made last year at critical times in ball games were very, very impressive if you go back through the end of the games, the end of halves, the two-minute things. Yeah he feels like he can get better, we’re doing everything we can to help him get better.”

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    Kevin Demoff ‏@kdemoff

    Great crowd at this afternoon’s practice got to see the offense have some fun throwing the ball deep. One of our biggest weekday crowds ever

    Howard Balzer ‏@HBalzer721

    Michael Sam talking today. NY Times in the house and USA Today.

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    Jim Thomas @jthom1

    As for practice, Sam Bradford has thrown better every day. . . .Kenny Britt and Brian Quick had some highlight catches. . . .

    . . .Rookie CB Lamarcus Joyner had red zone INT, stepping in front off WR Austin Pettis on pass thrown by rookie QB Garrett Gilbert.

    On the play immediately before the INT, Gilbert threw a TD pass to Chris Givens in back right corner off end zone.

    Bradford threw a red zone TD pass to Jared Cook over the middle.

    Rodger Saffold worked at LT with the starters; w/Greg Robinson at LG. Jake Long continues to do individual work and work on the side

    There were even a couple coaches from the Reus Imperials (American) football team of Spain. HC Bart Iaccarino and asst. Josep Coll.

    I don’t think they were here for the Sam presser.

    The Mizzou coaches posed for a round of pictures w/the Rams’ Mizzou contingent of players (Barnes, Gaines, Moe, Sam).

    Attendance was 1,678 _ second-highest of camp and maybe the biggest Tuesday crowd ever for a Rams camp in St. Louis.

    Phil Savage, executive director of Reese’s Senior Bowl also on hand. Ditto for what looked like most of the Mizzou FB staff minus G. Pinkel.

    Joan Niesen of Sports Illustrated, Bill Rhoden of New York Times, TSN (Canada), FOX-TV (Springfield, Mo.), Columbia Daily Tribune on hand.

    . . .and don’t want to forget Jarrett Bell of USA Today.

    Another good crowd at Rams Park for today’s practice _ we’ll have the head count in a bit. Team practiced in shoulder pads and shorts. . .

    . . . .so it wasn’t really full pads. Very big media crowd as well. I’m sure it had absolutely nothing to do w/the Michael Sam availability.
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    Nick Wagoner @nwagoner ·

    Official attendance Tuesday for Rams practice: 1,678.

    Phil Savage, former Browns GM and current Senior Bowl Exec. Director, also attended Tuesday’s practice.

    Rams continue to get good crowds for these practices.No official number yet but one of better crowds I’ve seen here for a weekday practice.

    DE William Hayes, C Scott Wells, OT Jake Long continue to get some work in individual drills but sitting team portion of practice.

    The Mizzou football coaching staff was in the house as well taking in the practice. They spent time with Sam, Moe, Barnes, Gaines after.

    Strong performance again from WR Brian Quick, who had a handful of big plays in team drills. Kenny Britt in on the action also.

    Rams wrapped up Tuesday’s practice. First padded workout, offense evened things up a bit today as QBs had more time to throw.

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    Welcome aboard, Coach.

    Thanks for the (as usual) excellent report.

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    Rams Training Camp Practice Twitter Reports: July 29

    Messages are in reverse order– Read from the bottom up.

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    —RamsHerd ‏@RamsHerd

    Frickin laser beams. RT @jimiramsboy: Sam hits Britt with a deep square in laser….yes laser #ramscamp

    —Mathieu Debuchy « ‏@WoozyVirtuoso

    Brandon McGee is getting picked on quite a bit today by the bigger receivers. #RamsCamp

    —Mathieu Debuchy « ‏@WoozyVirtuoso

    Cory Harkey just brought the boom on Joyner and Jordan Harris caught a 35 yard fade from Hill. Awesome sequence. #RamsCamp

    Kenny Britt SHOWING OUT right now on Brandon McGee. Two straight receptions. One 40 yard TD #RamsCamp

    Brian Quick turns McGee around and Sam fires a strike 25 yards down the field. #RamsCamp

    Sam looking sharp today #RamsCamp

    Pead not practicing today. #RamsCamp

    Really like how Roberson is carrying himself #RamsCamp

    —St. Louis Rams ‏@STLouisRams

    Garrett Gilbert connects with Chris Givens at #RamsCamp.

    —Mathieu Debuchy « ‏@WoozyVirtuoso

    Gaines & McGee.. Very similar hip flexion.

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    Warner on Bradford: Time to take the next step
    • By Jim Thomas

    I think that one offered a fair summary of what Warner said.

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    Heard on radio today…Ray Rice…a standing “O” from the fans upon his coming on to the field for camp…

    I have lots to say…but for now…I’m speechless.

    We really need to rethink the hero worship.

    College kids smoke pot and their draft status is severely affected…or they get kicked out. We are so tough on them. “Don’t draft them!” “They’re off my board!”

    Where is the disgust on punching a woman out? I used the situation to remind my sons…barring a threat to your or another’s life and health, hitting a woman is unacceptable…period.

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    St. Louis Rams wide receiver Tavon Austin talks with St. Louis American sports columnist Palmer Alexander III about the upcoming 2014-15 NFL season. Austin discusses his health, his readiness for the upcoming season and his expanded role in the St. Louis Rams offense.

    Watch Video Here: http://www.rams-news.com/tavon-austin-talks-2014-season-video/

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    How different was the Florida State playbook compared to the NFL? What is the key to a team becoming a champion? Rams safety Lamarcus Joyner breaks it down with Randy Karraker on 101ESPN.

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    So, that makes her what, about the 50th character in a sci-fi film to merge with the global network of computers? It must be getting crowded in there.

    Yeah Zola was the best of the lot.

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    Jim Thomas: the 2014 NFL season, Kurt Warner made an appearence at camp, interesting article written by an LA Times beat writer involving having at least one team in LA & not sure if we see this City building a football stadium. JT also talks about young players who have stood out so far like Donald, Mason, Watts, and Sam.

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    Yes we know how you feel, I was actually talking to wv. Your excuses for Bradford and the o-line and injuries, yada, yada yada is well documented.

    I don’t care about any of that.

    The facts are his career average is around 6.2 ypa in 4 seasons in the NFL.

    He threw very similar passes in college.

    Gunslinger is your word. Nobody is asking for that.

    Just look to push the ball downfield and step on teams necks when the opportunity is there.

    You need to be able to do that to win in this league.

    Expecting him to all of a sudden become a gunslinger is unrealistic.

    Nobody expects that.

    Well, see, what to you are “excuses” are to me “reasons.” I suppose if I were to take the conversation the wrong way, I could call your own “reasons” something else too. (To be clear, I don’t have any “something else” in mind, just pointing to a principle of fair discourse.) But all that’s really happening is that we differ in our opinions. And that’s fine.

    The way I see it, when these coaches had a version of the offense they want (in 2012), and had it all 16 games (ie. running threat, play action), Bradford was 7th in the league in passing plays of 20 yards or more (and 9th in percentage of attempts.) All that was good enough to be a big part of going 4-1-1 against the NFC west. And that’s with an injury-changed line that for the first half of the season fielded 3 guys who were out of football afterwards (Hunter, Ojinaka, and Richardson) and one who got benched after he left the Rams (Turner).

    I get that no one expects a gunslinger, but at the same time I don’t think they need to fix the long ball, IMO…Bradford throws those. He also doesn’t throw interceptions, which is apparently something Fisher insists on. IMO, the issue is the mid-range and deep middle range passes they tend not to throw (11-20, 21-30). In those terms, I agree that the Oklahoma offense did not prepare him for pro passing, and in fact, in 2010 that was one of the reasons I said they should take SUh. But at the time, when people said “are you claiming he won’t learn” I would always say “no I think he will but not right off.”

    BTW Bradford’s YPA in his final 3 games in 2013–when they played 2 top 7 defenses–was 7.4. That’s with Stacy and play action. In just the Carolina game it was 8.5. I get that some may not be convinced by that but to me it’s a tantalizing hint.

    Also BTW what I heard in that was Warner saying Bradford should trust his receivers more. I’m not sure I would if I were Bradford. At least not last year.

    Somewhat off topic, Warner also said by the way that when he was in New York people just seemed to automatically expect he would know the system and not be slowed down by learning it…but (according to him) he was. That was in his 7th year as a pro qb.

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    I want to make one comment regarding the CBs and the perception that they are struggling. You have to keep in mind, they are getting reps in various drills (1 on 1, 7 on 7, and 11 on 11) All geared to the offense being successful.

    Even in the 11 on 11 drills, there are all to often instances where the CBs end up looking beaten on a particular play, because the pass ends up being completed. But bear in mind, they are NOT hitting the QB. So, they have the chance to complete a play that otherwise would have ended in a sack, long before the pass ever gets thrown.

    I think all too often, these drills are so heavily tilted to the offense being able to get the play run, that the results can be misleading. With THIS Defensive front, and the constant pressure they are supplying, the CBs, will NOT have to cover guys nearly as long as they are in these drills. Also, they are in helmets and shells, and there is NO contact. There have been a few highlight type receptions by receivers, where if it were “live” action, someone was in perfect position to lay someone out.

    Also, while they are lining up tighter on the WRs, without pads, there has yet to be ANY bump and run.

    The ONLY concern I have at this point, is the inexperience beyond Jenkins and Johnson. So far, and I am very aware of all the things I mentioned about the variables present that work against the defense in general in these drills, guys like Woodard and McGee just don’t seem up to speed yet. Gaines appears to be more fundamentally sound than either of them. Joyner looks much better in the Nickel role, and has yet to take any reps at Safety. When lined up OUTSIDE he has struggled. I get that he will not be out there as long as JJ and TJ remain healthy. But the depth at this position actually might be more bothersome than at Safety.

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    The Rams seldom assign a specific guy to cover the opponents #1 guy. They pretty much stick to the RCB & LCB role, and line up against whomever is on their side. Jenkins is on the right side, and Johnson on the left.

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    While Armstrong ( I refuse to call him Ray Ray) flashes as an athlete, and can be impressive in a zone scheme, until he shows me he is willing to take on a block rather than run around it, I still will not be sold on his value as a LB.

    Now, that being said, after seeing what Williams is doing with the Linebacking scheme in general, having Ogletree lining up as the SLB, I will concede that IF ( I said IF) something were happen to Dunbar, I can see Armstrong being much more able to handle the WLB role. Not having a TE across from his would allow him to free lance (something he seems to like to do) and just concentrate on making plays.

    You do what you have to make a play. But when you are “in the box” and have an assigned gap you better find a way to fill it. And lets assume for a minute BOTH Ogletree and Armstrong are on the field at the same time…… Do you really want TWO OLBs who BOTH have a tendency to “slide around blocks? I don’t!

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    No Pads = D-line superiority. Add to it, that these 11 on 11 sessions are predominantly PASSING drills. It makes it very one-sided when the defense KNOWS what coming.

    I purposefully do not comment on anything related to the O-line until the pads go on for this reason. My only commentary this far, has been to point out just how dominant this pass rush is going to be.

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