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Mizzou WR T.J. Moe had a couple of nice catches Monday, including one where he tiptoed to stay in bounds on a sideline route.

Joyner and WR Kenny Britt had some interesting sequences as well.

There were lots of collisions Monday, with S Rodney McLeod and RB Zac Stacy running into each other on several occasions.

Also out were CB Janoris Jenkins, WR Brian Quick, DT Kendall Langford, CB Brandon McGee, RB Trey Watts, FB Kadeem Jones, LB Pat Schiller. ..C/G Barrett Jones, OG Brandon Washington, and G/T Rodger Saffold. None of the injuries is thought to be serious.

MLB James Laurinaitis (ankle) and DT Michael Brockers (ankle) were among those who missed practice Monday.

“That’s brotherhood out there,” Joyner said of the scuffle. “We’re not playing for paychecks out there. We’re playing for championships.”

Joyner got in a scuffle with WR Austin Pettis that ended up with more than a dozen Rams teammates involved trying to break things up.

He was his feisty self in what was a very spirited practiced Monday _ lots of hitting. Thud tempo, but with a capital T.

DB Lemarcus Joyner back on field after tweaking groin during special teams practice last Tuesday.

On a warm, humid day, the Rams kept their string of 1,000-plus spectators at camp going _ but just barely, at 1,003.

Coming to an electronics store near you in the fall: Former Rams WR Mark Clayton has a company (LIVV) that is producing high tech headphones

Production begins in October. Clayton, in town for business, took in Rams practice and said he was impressed w/what he saw from WR corps.

During a one-one red zone period S Cody Davis grabbed a bobbled ball by Franklin for an INT in the end zone.

With the Rams in pads CB Greg Reid is starting to show up. He had a couple of nice hits, and stepped in front of an out pattern from. . .

QB Garrett Gilbert intended for WR Austin Franklin for a pick 6.

One followup note to Laurinaitis not practicing, Jo-Lonn Dunbar was at middle LB with the starters.

I usually don’t put much stock in these depth charts this early in the year. (BTW, Michael Sam listed as 3rd-team RDE behind Quinn, Sims.)

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Jamal Collier @JCollierD ‏

Austin Davis got some extra work in with Jordan Harris and Chris Givens. #RamsCamp

All of the tight ends had a little post-practice running to do. Penance for the drops, presumably. #RamsCamp

Sam Bradford would’ve been sandwiched between Aaron Donald and Robert Quinn just now, which means Donald is running with the 1s. #RamsCamp

Greg Reid just broke on a pass intended for Austin Franklin. Pick-six in practice, pick-six in a game. #ramscamp

Looks like Tre Mason is one of those fall-forward types.

Darren Woodard chased Chris Givens down after the whistle. #ramscamp

Another Kendricks incompletion. Ray Ray Armstrong in coverage. #ramscamp

Austin Pettis and LaMarcus Joyner got into it. Couple punches thrown. Pics later. #ramscamp

Zac Stacy trying to run over everybody. Smacked into Rodney McLeod after whistle. #RamsCamp

Kendricks drops a low Bradford ball. #ramscamp

Made an effort to watch Trumaine Johnson since he’s back out here. Stedman Bailey escorted him away from Tavon after a WR screen completion.

Gilbert finds Moe across the middle. #ramscamp

Garrett Gilbert put it on the back shoulder for TJ Moe. Applause. #ramscamp

I was watching defense. Tip or drop almost ended up in the hands of a crashing TJ McDonald. #ramscamp

Tavon had a nice run after catch in the middle of the field. #ramscamp

In other news, Stedman Bailey just got another catch in traffic. #RamsCamp

Somebody just took Kenny Britt’s helmet off. #ramscamp

OK, Sam Bradford dropped a dime to Austin Pettis. Right sideline, between two DBs, over a jumper. TD. #RamsCamp

Ray Ray Armstrong getting first-team defense work with JL55 out. #ramscamp

They’re trying to hit the camera guy with kicks again. Getting reeeeeal close. #RamsCamp

FA TE Alex Bayer just drew some oohs with a sideline grab. #RamsCamp

A lot of jawing going on from the defense. #RamsCamp

D’Marco Farr right behind me saying more glowing things about Stedman Bailey on radio. Loves him on every down. #ramscamp

Austin Davis dump to Tre Mason falls incomplete. #ramscamp

Kenny Britt grabs one over the middle and then gives a shimmy to a DB. #ramscamp

Bradford is starting to turn up the heat on his throws. #ramscamp

Bradford zips one to Stedman Bailey. Robert Quinn and Jake Long hit the deck together. #ramscamp

Janoris Jenkins not practicing either. #ramscamp pic.twitter.com/mExlQji71W

11s. Defense says “it’s personal!” #ramscamp

Cody Davis intercepts Garrett Gilbert in a 1-on-1 on the outside. Receiver tipped it up

All the WRs are on the side that Bradford is on now #ramscamp

Sam Bradford & Austin Davis just switched places. Wouldn’t read into it just yet #ramscamp

Diving grab from Jordan Harris. #ramscamp

Still looking for more velocity from Mr. Bradford #RamsCamp

Special teams practicing against each other. Half have red caps on top of their helmets. #RamsCamp

It’s allegedly 92 degrees, but I’m pouring sweat right now. Offense is in navy. Defense in white. Tavon has pants on. Trippin. #RamsCamp

Guys are awaiting punts with ball in hand already, then tossing a ball or two up as they try to catch those AND the punted one. #ramscamp

It is hot out at #ramscamp. Chris Givens among the guys doing early field work. Chase Reynolds was signing autographs when I came in.

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Mathieu Debuchy « ‏@WoozyVirtuoso ‏

Greg Reid was picked on a bit, giving up 5 receptions on 7 targets. Made up for it a little bit with an interception at the end. #RamsCamp

Tavon Austin and Sam Bradford hooked up effectively on 3 different occasions. Really worked the slot well. #RamsCamp

Garrett Gilbert had one of his better days today. 11/13 (85%), 1 INT, 6 Checks/Screens. #RamsCamp

Seemed like coaches wanted to work on the timing throws underneath, so no need to worry about that too much. #RamsCamp

Sam Bradford Today: 18/24 (75%), 11 Checks/Screens. #RamsCamp

Greg Reid intercepts Gilbert on a short curl to Austin Franklin. #RamsCamp

Pettis and Joyner get into a fist fight. Punches thrown. Teammates have to separate them. #RamsCamp

Tavon just killed Joyner in the slot on a quick out. #RamsCamp

Joyner and Britt getting into it! Joyner rips off Britt’s helmet! #RamsCamp

Sam just fit a BEAUTFUL ball in to Austin Pettis, over Tru and in front of McLeod. #RamsCamp

Sam throwing underneath quite a bit today. But seems like that’s what coaches want today. #RamsCamp

Hill-Bayer have been on all day. #RamsCamp

Bayer is 4/4 today. Connecting in soft spots in zone, underneath, making hands catches. #RamsCamp

Alex Bayer has been Mr Consistency this camp. #RamsCamp

I haven’t seen a practice with this much energy. #RamsCamp

Double reverse to Tavon…. Sam the lead blocker… #RamsCamp

Ray Ray just did the DX chop after the run stop. #RamsCamp

Janoris in shorts again. #RamsCamp

Mo Alexander just got schooled on a slant by Franklin. #RamsCamp

Cody Davis impressive in 1 on 1′s. Picked off Gilbert.. Covering Franklin. #RamsCamp

Joyner hits like a mac-truck for a guy of his size. But we knew that already. Just confirming it today in drills. #RamsCamp

Kid out here with a #43 Dahl jersey. Would love to hear the backstory on that one. #RamsCamp

Pead and Bailey working as gunners on punts. #RamsCamp

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• This reply was modified 11 years, 9 months ago by zn.

Dialectical approach:

Thesis = I like Witherspoon, always have. I think he can grow in this role.

Antithesis = And, they miss Softli. I miss Softli. I don’t see the point in this change.

Synthesis = enh, what kann ya do

rfl wrote:

But the minute I watched his highlight reel, I thought, Oh, My God, what am I seeing here? You just do NOT see college DTs who play with that level of talent AND developed, mature skill

Now I remember that. You were asking the draftniks if he was good as advertized, then later in response to a highlight vid you said the same thing you say here–“my goodness this guy is doing it play after play.” Farr himself btw said that when he saw Donald, he recognized that the kid had (near direct quote) “the hands technique of a 3rd year pro.” That’s something coming from Farr, who of course was an undersized penetrating DT who took his game to the next level when he sought out training on how to use his hands. Farr is in awe of Donald.

I would love to have seen the Rams draft room when they realized Donald was falling to them.

rfl wrote:

Fact is, they have NOT been there to be made to this point.

But it will also change the game for Tavon. Last year, if he got the ball underneath, he was looking at secondaries that could get away with cheating up.

Great post as usual.

I know you watched rewind last year. So I gather what you say there in the quotation comes from lots of eyeballin.

My impression though was that the Carolina game was different. The Panthers took Stacy seriously, and that gave Bradford more room to air it out. He had a very good YPA in that game before going out.

It’s possible then that the play-action advantage/synergy you talk about is just there under the surface.

What’s your feeling on that?

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rfl wrote:

This kid is beyond freaking belief. Talent PLUS devotion and effort PLUS veteran-level technique right out of college? Playing next to Quinn? Please!

If you’re like me, you can’t believe we got this guy.

I forget, were you there for the draft thread? One of the themes early in the day as the different picks got turned in was “Donald’s still there…Donald might still be there…hey maybe Donald will be there…”

Quinn fell too.

Now and then some unexpected good luck surfaces for these Rams.

Mackeyser wrote:

Frankly, I think Quick has ripped the starting job out of Givens’ hands and may have put him off the team since Givens doesn’t play special teams. I think those last two slots go to special teamers. Or maybe Pettis and a special teamer. I dunno.

Preseason will count more for this WR corps than other units, I think…

I agree with all that.

Oh and here’s an especially hard view of Givens fwiw.

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blubravery

He was never a route runner. Last year was his first year he tried to add to his route tree to be a more well rounded player and it failed.

He is a one trick receiver, send him out and use his speed. There have been plenty of receivers that have made careers out of being fly receivers, but you can usually outdraft them.

If Quick, Bailey, and Britt translate their skills to the regular season you will see more production from him in packages because they will draw the coverages and he will be able to get into more one on one situations.

He is what he is.

nittany ram wrote:

My wife and I saw it too. We both really liked it. I would say it is among the best marvel films I’ve seen. For me, Avengers is still tops but I would rank GotG just beneath it.

I have a minor goof moment to mention though. Remember when Quill is trying to talk Drax out of killing Gamora, and when he says you can kill Ronan, he runs his finger across his throat in the famous “execution” gesture, and Drax doesn’t get it because his species doesn’t get metaphors.

But! Earlier in the same monologue, Quill tells Drax that Gamorra’s violence didn’t bother him, and lists the women who have assaulted him. He points to one scar and says “see that? I got that from a smoking hot Rayjack girl who stabbed me with a fork.”

Well…how does Drax know what “smoking hot” means? It’s a metaphor.

Granted, I don’t think it brings the whole film down…….

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SunTzu_vs_Camus wrote:

I sure hope Quick becomes what we all had hoped he would become!
It’s all very exciting.

Maybe they have enough this year to do what they need to do.

BRADFORD: “I think this is probably the deepest group [of receivers] we’ve had since I’ve been here, the most talented group we’ve had since I’ve been here.”

Interesting he should say that since all they did was add Britt. I think he must mean guys are maturing. Bailey, for example. We’re beginning to see he has a chemistry with Bailey. Or we have seen glimpses of that so far.

A history of Rams receivers with Bradford (adapted/stolen from a different poster on another board but heavily revised by me).

2010:

Clayton – injured early but there was chemistry with Bradford when Clayton could play
Alexander – played in 7 games
Gibson – rookie
Amendola – 3rd year player, but short-gain slot guy
Robinson – banged up all year

2011:

Offense out of sync all year due to learning new scheme without an off-season and getting massively injured

Alexander – productive in 5 games
Amendola – hurt early
Gibson – banged up, missed time
Lloyd – came late in a trade but played well
Pettis – rookie and looked it

2012:

Amendola – 5th year pro, and Schottenheimer used him well, but only played half the season
Gibson – okay, decently productive
Pettis – barely used, but he’s a role player
Givens – showed some rookie stuff but fell off in 2013
Quick – de facto redshirt

2013:

Austin – not really an every-down receiver, was a little overwhelmed early, but obviously a top weapon
Pettis – used a little more than before, productive within his role
Givens – his 2nd year an off-year as said
Bailey – late start, promising
Quick – redshirt year 2

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He did have receivers before, if Amendola and Clayton had stayed healthy (Alexander was a gamble). Imagine 2012 if they had DA all year plus Clayton.

And thanks again, W.

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GreatRamNTheSky wrote:

Okay, I thought there was a definite dedicated string for this kind of message

As a rule the dedicated thread is a good idea. Since that one was a “camp report” from scrimmage, it’s just an exception….he does more than repeat Demoff on moving/staying. It’s true that the guy has a particular line he’s taking. But that’s okay, under the circumstances, this one time…and I had the choice between editing it out or thinking it was just a couple of paragraphs in the middle of something else, and editing it seemed weird. So it’s okay here, as a kind of one-time exception, as is the fact that you responded to it here.

It should probably stop here, though.