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  • in reply to: Camp Report 8/12/14 … + some follow-up #3911
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    Some follow-up. Ongoing. I will keep adding to it via edit.

    CoachO

    [Jones]…His situation has nothing to do with attitude or ability (although some might argue that). He has an injury, and its not related to the lisfranc injury. Other than that, I can’t say how long he may be out, or what his status is.

    But its no coincidence. . .that he hasn’t been at Rams Park, nor was he on the sideline at Fridays game.

    The PUP list is only for players who haven’t practiced at all during the current training camp. The only option at this point will be to place him on IR, if it gets to that. Either way, it doesn’t matter, unless he is placed on IR, he would still count against the 90 man camp roster. I will add this. His injury is NOT related to the previous foot injury. But since the team has not released any info, I am not going to say more than that.

    I am sure they know what is going on, and have been asked to keep it under wraps until the team announces it. I have been told by TWO independent and very reliable sources what is going on, and in both cases have been asked to keep it to myself.

    The team does not to have to discuss or release any information about training camp injuries, until the rosters are being finalized. In this case, Jones cannot be placed on the PUP list, as he has already participated in training camp, therefore, unless they place him on IR, as was the case with Brodine, he is still going to count against the 90 man camp roster.

    [Could they IR Jones now as a player to bring back later?]…that designation has to be made at the time of placing that player on IR. If they burn that prematurely, and say Laurinaitis is re-injured, but not seriously enough to IR him for the season, they would be screwed.

    [That is,]…if they designate someone, and then another player gets injured, who is more valued, or won’t be out for the entire season, they lose the opportunity to choose which player they designate.

    If his injury is NOT serious enough to place him on injured reserve, what could they possibly have to gain by announcing his status? Which in this case may be one of the reasons no announcement has been made. They are not required to disclose injuries until the rosters are announced. Not saying this is the case, because I have no idea one way or another, if it applies to Jones or not.

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    In the past two days, both Long and Scott Wells have taken virtually all of the 1st unit reps. This includes extended work in the run blocking drill yesterday. [Long]…looks no worse for wear. There is still some timing issues in his sets, but the knee doesn’t look to be an issue at all. I expect that he and Wells both will play some this weekend.

    The other thing that needs to be pointed out, Scott Wells wasn’t experiencing any lingering effects from his previous leg injuries. He contracted an illness before training camp, and needed time to get physically stronger. I only point this out, because I know most people think he is just one more injury waiting to happen.

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    Laurinaitis most likely will miss at least the next 2 PS games, with a possible return in the final game in Miami. While not considered to have a “serious” ankle sprain, you don’t spend a week in a walking boot for a minor sprain either. As others have said, if this were a regular season game, as he has shown for EVERY game of his career, he would be out there. But there is zero reason to push it with him, or Brockers, for that matter and risk further injury.

    Bates is still getting all of his reps with the second unit, Dunbar has assumed the role with the 1st unit @ MLB. with Armstrong filling in at WLB. The guy who seems to be benefiting the most , moving up to 2nd unit reps at this point, is Lawrence Wilson. He is now taking Armstrong place @ WLB with the “2’s”

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    McGee has missed the majority of practices the past week, didn’t play in the game Friday, and is just now returning to the practice field. So to really try to gauge a true depth chart is virtually impossible.

    That being said, Joyner is getting the majority of his reps at the Nickel spot. . . .there are instances where he stays on the field with McDonald coming off, if the offensive personnel dictates it. For example an extra TE is lined up in the slot. Again, I am not reading a whole lot into this, except to work on Joyner’s cover skills against bigger receivers.

    Now that McGee is practicing [with Jenkins out], he took the 1st team reps opposite Johnson, at CB. With Joyner coming in at Nickel.

    Gaines is lined up outside in the “regular” sets with the 2nd unit, and slides inside to Nickel when needed. These are the ONLY TWO guys at this point working at the Nickel position, and I don’t see that changing. That includes McLeod NOT taking a single rep at Nickel.

    If I were to put a true Depth Chart together, assuming EVERYONE is back and healthy, it would be Jenkins and Johnson, at CB, with Joyner as the Nickel.
    2nd Unit would be McGee and Gaines at the CB, with Gaines sliding to the Nickel and at this point, Woodard coming in as the next CB.

    [Woodard]…At this point, I would say Gaines has passed him up. I think they [like]..Woodard enough that he will prevent guys like Roberson and Reid from any serious consideration. He has his moments on coverage, at least in practice, but then as was the case last year, and again last week, he seems to make a play come game time.

    The thing that concerns me with him, is the same thing that pops out at me regarding the “other guys” below him on the depth chart. They just don’t show up on Special Teams.

    [Roberson:]…Of all the UDFA DBs he probably has the best cover skills. But I just don’t think they are in a position to keep a 6th CB if he doesn’t want to tackle, which has prevented him from showing up on ST. And maybe I am wrong in how I look at it, but if you aren’t running with the 1st or 2nd unit on any of the ST, you aren’t in the mix.

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    in reply to: Brandt on Sirius at Rams camp; Marvez tweets from camp #3904
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    Alex Marvez @alexmarvez

    Rams once again projected to field NFL’s youngest roster for 3rd straight season. At 34, backup QB Shaun Hill oldest player

    DE Robert Quinn expects more double-teams coming off 19-sack season. Hopes that creates opportunities for others

    WR Kenny Britt says he’s finally fully recovered mentally & physically from torn ACL suffered in 2011. Looks great in camp

    8 d-linemen locked into roster spots. Team will carry 10-11. No cinch Michael Sam sticks

    Offensive benefit of Gregg Williams’ return as DC: Sam Bradford getting rid of football quicker in practice

    Don’t expect LT Jake Long (knee) to play Saturday vs @packers. Return coming later vs Browns or Dolphins

    in reply to: Camp Report 8/12/14 … + some follow-up #3889
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    Some follow-up.

    CoachO

    [Progress back from injuries]…Its so hard to gauge that sort of thing. Yesterday Jenkins and Saffold were doing side work with Reggie, today they weren’t. Today Jenkins took part in some of the unit drills, then shut it down.

    As far as Laurinaitis, I have heard, (unofficially), that he may not play at all the rest of the Preseason, but should be ready for Sept 7th.

    Brockers hasn’t done anything since the scrimmage, so I have no idea. He seems to be walking fine, but my guess is they are gonna take it slow and easy with him. Don’t need a repeat of his rookie year, starting off with an ankle sprain and all but ineffective the first half of the season.

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    McDonald and Alexander have NEVER been on the field at the same time, they are definitely playing the same position. He just is still catching up from missing all of the OTAs, and its obvious he isn’t there yet. I wouldn’t hold out much hope for him and McD ever playing together.

    Davis is clearly the FS in this scheme as is McLeod. So…Davis and Alexander do NOT switch it up. Depending on the specific call, Williams may send Davis on a blitz or rotate him up in coverage, but they are playing two distinctly different positions.

    If [anyone is]…hoping to hear that Alexander may challenge for the starting job along side McDonald, you can put that idea to rest. I isn’t happening this year….Alexander will be this years version of Ray Ray on Special Teams. If he is lining up at Safety after Sept 1st, it will be scary. The athleticism is there, but his read and reactions aren’t at this point.

    [Person at center]…He looked comfortable. I have been expecting this actually. He has experience doing it. And actually if you pay any attention to these things (which I obviously do), in the pregame warmups, he was snapping to Hill, while Rhaney snapped to Davis. Wells was with Bradford, and Barnes with Gilbert.

    Barnes …is much improved, both physically stronger, and much more comfortable. Barnes is a non issue right now, and Rhaney doesn’t look ready.

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    [Quick]…I get it. He hasn’t lived up to the expectations of the MEDIA and MOST of the fans. But that doesn’t change what I see. Which is the most talented WR on the roster.

    in reply to: Camp Report 8/12/14 … + some follow-up #3885
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    Thanks Coach.

    I think you predicted Person would get some snaps at center.

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    “They want to run it more than they passed it, so that means there will be less opportunities for (the receivers). Where can (Austin) help the ball club if he’s not getting a lot of opportunities on the offense?”

    I’m not sure that’s necessarily true. I think they will pass it plenty. I have less of a handle on this part of it but I also think they will rotate WRs, so it’s not certain he will be crowded out in a numbers game. I do think they fully intend to set up a fair number of big strikes, and Austin can do that, as we know. I don’t think this will be Seattle. In 2012, Bradford was tied for 7th in the league with Manning for the number of passing plays of 20 yards or more. I expect that to continue…in principle, a play action offense with Stacy should not be that different from a play action offense with Jackson.

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    I heard the rapper known as Drake got the Toronto Raptors fined $25,000 because he talked to Kevin Durant who is going to be an UFA at the end of the year about playing for the Raptors next season. Drake is just a fan. That means if I bumped into Patrick Willis, and said something about playing for our Rams, I would be worried about the consequences of what might happen.

    Well, you should be fined for talking to Patrick Willis.

    About anything.

    Heck we’ll fine you ourselves.

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    I’m concerned Bradford really didnt elevate the team, against the
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    Rams don’t take the Saints all that seriously.

    Last 3 games, they started back-ups against them. Feeley, Clemens, Hill.

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    in reply to: CoachO, Camp Report 8/11/14 + follow-up #3845
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    Some follow-up.

    CoachO

    Brockers tweaked an ankle the day before the scrimmage at the dome, tried to come back and participate in the scrimmage and sprained it pretty good. So he has been held out since. I would guess that if the season were starting on Sunday, he would play, but its not so why not be careful with him?

    Langford looked fine, if you are asking about his “health” . They were in shorts and shirts, so nothing remotely close to anything physical up front yesterday. But he was moving fine, and taking regular reps with the 1st unit.

    Laurinaitis is out of the walking boot, but did not participate in ANY of the practice. He observed portions from the sidelines, then went back inside.

    Saffold and Jenkins did some side work with Reggie Scott (Head Trainer), so I would venture a guess they are closer to returning. Brockers is a tough call. And one where I would think caution would be the proper course of action ..

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    My take on Gilbert, is he continues to get plenty of reps, so based on that, he is definitely ahead of Davis.

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    [UDFAs]…This roster has developed to the point that there just isn’t room to “keep em all”. I am not concerned about exposing guys to the PS, if they aren’t good enough to make OUR TEAM. The PS is way too fluid throughout the season. And who’s to say, if we “lose” someone like Roberson, we won’t find someone off another teams PS, who is better? How many players have been claimed by this regime in the past two years who have come in and are still here?

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    …the gassers are nothing new. They ran them last year for the very same thing.

    Its just their way of making the guilty players a little more accountable, and trust me, Mr. Dill was not getting a whole lotta love from the other O-linemen for his performance on Friday night. Needless to say, they ran more than any other unit yesterday.

    The thing about Fisher’s teams, they are always gonna play with an edge, and some penalties are always gonna be tolerated. To me, its the presnap (and in the case of Dill) post play penalties that have to be addressed. How many drives on offense have been stalled because a 2nd and 5 turn into a 2nd and 10, or worse yet, a 3rd and 3 turn into a 3rd and 8 because of a false start? Same thing in reverse on the defense, with the off sides penalties. Becoming drive SUSTAINING penalties?

    Eliminate those, and the rest become just part of the game.

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    [Does J Long look like he can play this Saturday?]…all things point to that being a likely scenario. he and Wells both, took the majority of reps in yesterdays 11 on 11 stuff, with Long squaring up vs. Quinn all day long. He had his hands full and was really working hard to stand up against him. He didn’t look to be favoring the knee in the least, and they didn’t seem to be concerned with the amount of stress he was putting on it.

    Saffold did some work on the side with Reggie Scott yesterday, which is a pretty good sign that he is close to returning.

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    I was at field level watching the team drills all day, and anyone who questions Bradford’s arm strength needs to see it from that close. Talk about a WOW factor.

    in reply to: Jimi & others, twitter reports from practice (8/11) #3827
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    Yes as of right now I am. I do have some things going on out of town but I hope to put them off and get on down to the Dome

    What stood out for you personally at the Saints game?

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    in reply to: Ferguson #3825
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    in reply to: Jimi & others, twitter reports from practice (8/11) #3823
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    I don’t have a whole lot more to add from what I had on twitter.

    The defensive coaches did run their charges through a lot of drills emphasizing taking good tackling angles using cones, not giving up contain and taking the right shoulder when engaged.

    Gregg Williams in particular was working and watching the linebacker drills.

    It looks to me as if most of the walking wounded are about ready to return.

    Are you going to the GB game?

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    in reply to: Fisher & co. talking about the long ball #3805
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    I have … seen Bradford in frequent interviews make statements about pushing the ball downfield.

    Now, as far as how that translates onto the practice field, its tough to get a read on it. There are days when its clear they want to do exactly that. They focus on mostly 15-18 yard routes, and other days when they take their shots 25+.

    Then just about the time you think they are turning a corner, the next day they are focusing on the underneath crossing routes, or outlets to the TEs or RBs.

    I do believe that they will certainly make more of an effort to exploit the intermediate routes off of play action.

    And depending on who they have on the field, be it Quick and Britt, or Austin and Bailey, will go a long way in determining the plan of attack.

    in reply to: Laram on the blueprint #3801
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    Maybe that’s not who the Rams want to be at all.

    When would that be most effective? With a lead.

    I’m starting to rethink Fishers building of this team. I couldn’t figure out what he was doing. Austin, Cook and a run game didn’t seem to fit for me.

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    Great minds.

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    I don’t think Fisher wants a ball control offense/top defense type team. Where they keep the ball, keep scores down, and dominate that way. Well he wants that, partly, but IMO he wants more than that. I think what he actually wants is an offense that scores so the defense plays with a lead. I think he wants to unleash the beast. I don’t think he wants to control games, I think he wants to break games open. So that goes along with the “yes run but strike with big plays” approach to offense. Get that defense on the field with a lead, in full throttle demolish mode.

    In principle, the offense with Stacy and Bradford is just not different from the offense with Jackson and Bradford. Same thing, same coordinator–power running, ball control passing, play action + big passing plays. All those things combined, with the run/ball control going hand in hand with the downfield shots–each aspect is an important part of the total equation.

    in reply to: so having seen it I like the new extra point rule #3794
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    It seems like the league is trying to make something out of nothing. I still think the best option is to get rid of it. It slows the game down for no reason.

    IMO, give teams 7 points for a TD, or let’em opt out and go for 2 from the 2 yard line.

    It’s bad enough having so many games decided by a bad snap/bad hold/gust of wind, etc. Kicking a 33yd extra point just makes it harder for outdoor teams to consistently make extra points.

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    Fair points. But, we’ve crossed the line into blood feud territory. This will forever be known as the Extra Point Board War.
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    in reply to: St. Louis Rams' Projected Roster: Aug 11/Wagoner #3789
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    He has 9 OL and 5 safeties.

    It really could go the other way — 10 OL and 4 safeties. (Actually last year they carried 11 OL).

    OR it could go, 10 DL and 4 safeties.

    Of those 3 units, my guess is that young safeties and young O-linemen are more likely to make it to the PS without being claimed than any of their more visible young DL.

    But then it’s hard to say because at some point the last 4-5 roster decisions are based on the concept of “the best 53.” Do they rank Daniels higher than Westbrooks when it comes to that? Or vice versa?

    On Reynolds over Pead. Different reports from different people have Pead looking like he’s on shakey ground, even though he’s injured (ie. normally you would think he’s not visible because he’s injured, but there’s hints that there’s more to it than that.) I doubt they keep 5 RBs so yeah it could work out like that.

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    That may be the first Reynolds interview since he first signed in 2011.

    in reply to: Demoff on KMOX (8/10) #3784
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    Demoff is a regular there. He’s on KMOX every Sunday. So, I guess they figured, as long as he’s here…ask him Snead questions.

    in reply to: game reactions from around the net (3) #3766
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    Bump, I have 3 now.

    in reply to: the giant Siberian crater mystery #3759
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    Unless that happens in the middle of D.C. you won’t get much interest from the politicians in this country.

    For the NSA employees reading this, we are not actually suggesting that anyone attempt to do that.

    in reply to: Fisher & co. talking about the long ball #3755
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    I don’t think Fisher wants a ball control offense/top defense type team. Where they keep the ball, keep scores down, and dominate that way. Well he wants that, partly, but IMO he wants more than that. I think what he actually wants is an offense that scores so the defense plays with a lead. I think he wants to unleash the beast. I don’t think he wants to control games, I think he wants to break games open. So that goes along with the “yes run but strike with big plays” approach to offense. Get that defense on the field with a lead, in full throttle demolish mode.

    The more I think about this, the more I am convinced by it.

    They want to run,use ball control passing, AND set up big strikes through play action and other ways too. Big passing plays, of various kinds, will be a very important part of the mix. We will see more plays this year like the longer passes to Cook and Bayer, and the (in effect, kind of) “trick” play to Harkey (where a very dedicated blocker runs completely free on play action, because in the previous plays they had been “predictable” running out of power run sets). And heck, last night, the WRs didn’t even get that involved in those (though there were deep medium passes in the 21-30 yard range to Pettis, Bailey, and Blake).

    The point is to get up on teams and unleash the defense, not to hang tough in close games. The model of this IMO is the 2013 Saints game, where they got up on New Orleans and then just came at them relentlessly on defense. Colts game, same thing.

    One small hint of that was last night’s YPA.

    Now we know it was 3 qbs, none of them Bradford, but it was still Schott’s offense working on some basic concepts. So there’s the bare bones of a hint here.

    21/34 for 238 = 7 YPA.

    That included (with RAC yards as part of it) passes of 24, 24, 24, 21, 29, & 42 yards, + the 32 yarder to Givens which led to the PI penalty.

    Now if you’re like me, that is absolute, incontrovertible proof of their every-game offensive direction for the next 20 years.

    Or, it;s a small but tantalizing hint showing, maybe, how they will do things this year.

    (BTW their 3rd down conversion percentage last night was 41+%, which in 2013 would rank 8th. Now that’s just one pre-season game but I am going to keep a running week-to-week watch on both this and YPA.)

    I also agree with this post:

    Rockram

    http://theramshuddle.com/topic/a-zine-post-game-reactions-from-around-the-net-1-so-far/

    I never thought Fisher intended to roll back the clock. Pass and run with equal efficiency, adjusting your game for the opponent, and then understanding the pass scores points, the run controls the clock and prevents the D from just pinning their ears back and rushing the passer. . . In watching the routes run by the Rams last night, they were intermediate and deep for the WOs. Used the slot and TEs underneath mostly. This isn’t going to be 3 yards and a cloud of dust. If it was, Kendricks, Cook, Austin, Bailey, Givens, are all bad fits. And the Rams have been too deliberate to just throw darts at the board.

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    Hi TSRF. Had to move your last post to the closed history thread. I’m sure you understand why.

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    The thing that stands out to me about the Safety play last night and the defense overall, was the bad tackling. But it doesn’t surprise me in the least, and I am not overly concerned about it by the time Sept rolls around. If you watch any of the other games around the league, the one thing that has become a trend is the tackling is really bad in the first couple of games in the Preseason.

    They just aren’t able to tackle anymore in training camp, then you ask them to “practice” it in live games, it is going to be inconsistent.

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    I can live with the aggression penalties. Its the presnap penalties they need to clean up. Those are the drive killers in offense. And the drive extenders on defense

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    That was the best Davis has looked at any time since training camp started. But while he made a couple of nice throws, he also missed badly on others. I am not just talking about the throws themselves, I am talking about the decisions he made.

    While Gilbert’s accuracy or lack thereof was obvious, what impressed me was this decision making in his first NFL action. He got the ball to the right guy most of the time, he just had throws sailing on him. Think he may have been just a tad anxious about the setting? There are bound to be things he needs to learn from, but the kid has a ton of talent, and my guess is he is showing enough that he will make the roster. They won’t risk trying to slide him to the PS.

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    If you look at the group of CBs past the 1st four who are IMO, Jenkins, Johnson, Joyner and Gaines, Roberson probably has the best cover skills. He just doesn’t want any part of the physical side of the game. To me, for him to have any chance of competing for a roster spot, he HAS to get on Special Teams. There is no way a 6th CB makes any roster without ST contributions. And so far, he isn’t on any of them. Neither is Woodard. Huge Red flag for me.

    …for a 6th CB to make the team, he has to be able to play on ST. And because Roberson is so unwilling to tackle, that isn’t gonna happen.

    McGee, for his lack of consistency in coverage, at least has shown the ability to be a contributor on most of the coverage teams. So I would put him at the #5 CB spot.

    [Daniels:]…at this point, he is certainly viewed as being better than the others. He is on on the 1st units on Kickoff Return, Kickoff Coverage. 2nd unit on the Punt Coverage unit. So that tells me at this point, he is regarded as one of the core players on the core units.

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    Rhaney just doesn’t know what he is doing yet, in making all the calls at the LOS. There were many instances where he would make a line call, only to have the QB change it up. I had heard prior to the game, that the plan for the “2nd unit” was to be very run heavy, because of this very thing, and the game situation sort of dictated they throw it more than they wanted.

    I would venture a guess and say they keep 10.[O L]. And Barrett Jones will NOT be one of them. I’m fairly confident in saying he won’t be on the 53 man come Sept 7th.

    Long, Robinson, Wells, Saffold, Barksdale, Barnes, Joseph, Person, Hooey, Bond.

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    As far as having only one starter at LB out, its more a case of who took his place that lead to most of the issues. By having Dunbar slide to the MLB position, and now putting Armstrong on the field to stop the running game….. well you saw how that turned out.

    For all those people who still want to beat the drum for Ray Ray taking over for Dunbar at the WLB, I hope you took notice. He couldn’t get off blocks, and over ran plays consistently. I know its ONE preseason game. But this is the same thing that shows up in every practice.

    But if history tells us anything, Laurinaitis will be there, barring some serious injury.

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    Barring any unforeseen developments, I would imagine the 7 man DL rotation being: Quinn, Long Hayes, Sims, Brockers, Langford, Donald,, with Conrath being the 8th game day activation.

    It would not shock me at all, to see Carrington being one of the surprise cuts. He is on a 1-yr deal, ($1.5M with a $1M guarantee) Conrath is in the last year of his original 3 year deal, ($1.44M) but only $6K guaranteed. Again, it should be interesting to see how this battle plays out.

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    [Receivers]…the thing that has been interesting to me, and they have stayed very consistent with it throughout camp, and even in the game on Friday, is the tandem concept they are employing.

    Britt and Quick are usually paired together, as is Austin and Bailey. Givens and Pettis make up the 3rd duo, and are noticeably behind the other two groups in terms of 1st unit reps.

    When you watch the game, is they are in 2 WR sets, these combinations are the foundation, and they bring in other personnel packages off of it.

    Britt and Quick got the starting reps, and played the first few series. Then you had Austin and Bailey getting work into the 2nd Quarter. But make no mistake, Givens was still on the field late into the 2nd Half, and no matter how you spin that, it can’t be a good sign.

    in reply to: 7 PD articles + 4 Wagoners on the Saints game #3723
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    Wagoner must get paid by the article.

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    in reply to: 101 – Fisher on the Saints game with Savard & Farr #3721
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    Fisher mentions that he’s glad certain crazy things came up in the 2 minute stuff, that way they can fix some issues.

    I don’t know how important this is, but that kind of reminds me that I think Fisher is the kind of coach who is better at finding and fixing problems then he is at preparing a team to not have that many problems in the first place.

    Odd as it sounds, that’s a compliment. It means he’s not a man with a dominating vision, BUT at the same time is a very pragmatic guy who is willing and able to adjust things on the move.

    in reply to: 7 PD articles + 4 Wagoners on the Saints game #3720
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    WAGONER:

    Mason was the busiest of the backs, getting 15 carries for 51 yards. He struggled to get much going early but he was also working behind the third-team offensive line.

    Mason clearly showed well. Top-notch lateral quickness. It’s pretty obvious he’ll be a player.

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    Why is Brian Quick being ripped for that ONE pass target he had?
    It was an overthrown ball…Hill even said as much(“I’d like to have that one back”).

    ..
    And Pettis made a great 21yd catch between 2 defenders.
    Pettis is a fine 5th WR…possession WR.

    Agree on Pettis. That was a classic Pettis “catch radius” reception.

    On Quick. What bothered the people who were bothered by it is the return of the classic BQ “hangdog” demeanor after the play. To many, his change this summer has to do with attitude and confidence, but that old whupped teenager thing doesn’t seem to fit that. It’s just one small thing.

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    The downfall of the kicking game began with the release of Massey. Maybe he’d come back?

    He has transcended daily concerns and risen to a higher plain, where he sits cross-legged in his living room, his mortal eyes shut as his inner eye watches over us with benign indulgence.

    It would be nice if he conjured up some luck now and then for his former team, but nooooooooo……..

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    I honestly think the really BAD series of plays had as much to do with them playing Gaines, McGee, Armstrong, Dunbar at MLB, Donald, and Carrington as anything else.

    I don’t think Langford saw the field.

    If that’s right, that’s 6 starters out.

    That unit didn’t even look confident at first. They had a half-step behind, anxious to catch up feel to them.

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    bump

    in reply to: Legatron #3686
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    zn wrote:

    nittany ram wrote:

    When the game’s on the line, he’s not that reliable.

    Jake Long, Wells, Brockers, Laurinaitis, Jenkins, and Bradford were all out.

    How do you expect JZ to hit them all without a decent supporting cast?

    Do you even follow football?

    Great kickers elevate the players around them. Even the most casual observer of football knows that.

    Okay.

    I see exactly where this is going.

    Board war.

    mn

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