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    Chris Long: “I think Aaron Donald should be in the Pro Bowl”

    Chris Long speaks with reporters following Wednesday’s practice before Thursday Night Football.

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/videos/videos/Long-I-think-he-should-be-in-the-Pro-Bowl/dc598216-0a0c-4450-80e0-fdb43a0957ad

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    Is Shaun Hill trending up?

    By Bernie Miklasz

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/bernie-is-shaun-hill-trending-up/article_f49fc90c-cf0b-5405-a4c3-a4fe14006345.html

    Except for one regrettable interception that cost the Rams a win at San Diego, we can’t find much fault with Shaun Hill’s play at quarterback since his return to the starting job four games ago.

    Not that we’re looking to find fault with Hill. He’s a genuinely good man who has earned the respect of his teammates. Hill has become a team leader, as evidenced by his vocal locker-room challenge of teammates after the Rams’ messy first half at Washington last Sunday.

    The Rams are 3-1 since head coach Jeff Fisher benched Austin Davis and turned to Hill as his starter. Even with a few rough moments in the San Diego loss, Hill has done an impressive overall job. He’s been better than I anticipated.

    In these last four starts Hill completed 62 percent of his passes, has averaged a healthy 7.54 yards per attempt, has six touchdowns and two interceptions, and has a passer rating of 96.0.

    In the Rams’ three wins with Hill at quarterback — Denver, Oakland, Washington — he’s completed 67 percent of his throws with five touchdowns, no interceptions, an average of 8.44 yards per attempt, and has a slick passer rating of 116.

    As we look ahead to the Rams’ unsettled quarterback position for the near future, Hill is keeping himself in the conversation.

    Among the questions:

    1. Are the Rams willing to draft a QB early and play him right away in 2015? With the team so close to a winning breakthrough it seems chancy to hand the job to an unproven rookie. If the Rams’ bosses truly believe they are on the verge of a 10-win season (or more) in 2015, then I’d have to think they’d be reluctant to risk taking a step back in ’15 as a rookie QB learns on the job.

    2. Will the Rams bring Sam Bradford back for 2015 at a reworked and reduced salary? And would he agree to a salary cut to stay here or prefer to take his chances elsewhere? By the end of this season, Bradford will have started only 23 of 48 regular-season games since Fisher took over in 2012. After his two knee surgeries, can the Rams depend on Bradford to stay healthy? Or are they willing to take another chance on Sam, gambling that he’ll stay upright for 16 games in 2015 and be the right QB for this offense?.

    3. Where does Austin Davis fit in? I have no idea. There are a few possibilities in play. Does he get a chance to compete for the starting job in 2015, or will he be relegated to a backup role? Depending on what the Rams choose to do elsewhere at the QB position, there are no guarantees of Davis being part of the mix in ’15.

    4. Do the Rams bring back Bradford but keep Hill as their No. 2 to take over if Bradford should go down again? It would be a repeat of this year’s advance plan, but perhaps with one difference: a rookie QB on the roster instead of A. Davis.

    5. Not that there will be any big-name throwers available on the market, but will the Rams sign a free-agent quarterback that fits into the Fisher and Brian Schottenheimer style of offense? In his past at Tennessee, Fisher squeezed a good number of wins out of aging quarterbacks such as Neil O’Donnell and Kerry Collins. If the rest of the team is in good shape — especially on defense — Fisher is confident he can win with an intelligent, game-manager type of quarterback.

    Which brings us back to Hill’s future.

    I could definitely envision a scenario in which the Rams draft a young QB early and take their time to prep him while Hill starts.

    Hill — who is generous in mentoring young players — has the personality and temperament for the role.

    Arizona QB Drew Stanton was Hill’s teammate when both played for the Detroit Lions. And Stanton is grateful to Hill for helping him so much.

    “He was the first guy that showed me how to prepare as a back-up,” Stanton said. “How to be ready to go in at the drop of a hat and go in there and be able to play and hopefully play at a high level because you feel prepared. You’re not sitting there second guessing things or questioning what’s going on. It’s a lot of mental preparation. There’s a systematic approach to it and I can’t thank him enough for all of it.”

    That said, I think it’s too early to peg Hill. It’s too early to think of going into 2015 with Hill as a starter with no real Plan B in place. He’ll be 35 next season, and I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask how Hill will hold up physically … or how he’ll hold up through increased exposure.

    In the Rams’ final three games, Hill will face two defenses that rank among the top five in the NFL for fewest points allowed. Arizona is 5th with 231 points surrendered, and Seattle is 1st with only 219 points allowed. The other opponent, the NY Giants, aren’t mediocre but not horrendous on defense, ranking 21st among the 30 teams in points allowed.

    Hill’s limited mobility could be an issue against the Arizona, NY Giants and Seattle defenses. (We already know that the Cardinals and Seahawks play fierce defense, but don’t overlook the Giants, who are 5th in the NFL in sack percentage.)

    In his last four games as the starter, Hill has been OK on third downs, with one TD and one INT and a passer rating of 82.9.

    Blitzes have given him problems. When dogged over the last four games Hill has completed only 17 of 33 (51.5%) with two TDs, two INTs and a poor passer rating of 65.0.

    Hill played cleanly in the wins over Denver, Oakland and Washington but turned the ball over three times in the loss at San Diego. One was a fumble returned for a touchdown; the other was the INT that stopped the Rams from stealing the win at the end.

    Hill has also been lucky in that he’s fumbled five times in the last four games — but the Rams recovered four of them.

    There’s also a lot to like about Hill …

    The late San Diego INT aside, he’s made good decisions. He gets the ball out on time. He doesn’t rattle, posting an adjusted completion percentage of 71.4 percent when under pass-rush pressure. (That number is according to Pro Football Focus.) And he has good competitive character

    Hill is outstanding at executing play-action passes. According to Pro Football Focus, Hill has completed 21 of 26 play-action passes (80.8%) with five touchdowns, no interceptions, a whopping average of 15 yards per attempt, and a crazy-good passer rating of 158.3.

    That’s important because play-action throws are a key part of the Fisher-Schottenheimer offense. Davis was pretty awful at play-action passing, throwing four TDs and four INTs and averaging 5.4 yards per attempt with a 72.3 rating. The play-action pass has become a real weapon in the Rams’ offense since Hill was reinstalled as the QB.

    Even with the present uncertainty, Hill certainly has a chance to put himself in the thick of things at QB for the Rams in 2015. He could end up in a number of roles: full-time starter, solid No. 2, Bradford insurance, or place-holder starter while a rookie gets ready. Let’s see how he finishes the season.

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    Is there any reason Bradford should/would take less money
    next year?

    In a sense, he doesn;t have to.

    They can extend him, so that nominally the contract has more total money in it.

    But they can work that extension in a cap friendly way that reduces the 2015 cap hit and puts a lot of the future money in things like incentives and roster bonuses. This allows the Rams to give themselves some insurance, while also on paper anyway take care of Bradford.

    Any cap-smart team could easily do all that stuff.

    I doubt they just flat and plain ask him to take a reduction. And they don’t have to do it that way.

    On his side, he probably sees the advantages in staying with a team where he knows the system and the weapons on offense, and the defense is shaping up to be a top unit that would take a lot of pressure off him.

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    Kurt Warner on ‘Inside the NFL’: Cardinals vs. Rams preview

    The “Inside the NFL” crew breaks down the Thursday night matchup between the Arizona Cardinals and St. Louis Rams.

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/videos/videos/Kurt-Warner-I-expect-to-see-a-great-defensive-performance/e029af52-e6fb-420f-9518-db01e89dba8d

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    Big test for both Rams, Arizona

    By Bernie Miklasz

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/bernie-big-test-for-both-rams-arizona/article_c5d366ea-2676-589e-90cf-23a78dd2a9c5.html

    Minutes after his Rams had completed a thorough 24-0 thwacking of the tackling dummies dressed in Washington Redskins’ costumes, coach Jeff Fisher stepped to a podium and actually said this:

    “We can play better.”

    This wasn’t a meaningless example of predictable coach-speak; Fisher truly believed it.

    Think about that for a few seconds. In the last two weeks the Rams jacked the Oakland Raiders 52-0, then added to the misery in Washington by imposing a second consecutive shutout.

    Two games, two wins, and a preposterous 76-0 point differential. But Fisher wants more from his team. And he thinks they can give it. The players agree.

    “I feel like we were playing well as a team,” quarterback Shaun Hill said. “You can’t just say, ‘Well, we’ve turned the corner, now it’s time to relax.’ You’ve got to keep doing the same things that you’ve been doing that have got you to this point. That’s the way it is in the NFL. You’ve got to just keep going, keep churning and keep working — and this group does that.”

    This leads us into tonight’s game against the Arizona Cardinals at the Edward Jones Dome. The Rams are only 6-7 but trending favorably. They’ve gone 5-3 in their last eight games, are 3-1 since Hill was plugged back in at quarterback, and are cracking opponents with a bruising level of defense.

    This Rams’ run has featured wins over Seattle, San Francisco and Denver plus the curb-stomping wipeouts of Oakland and Washington. But tonight presents an opportunity to knock down the 10-3 Cardinals, the leaders of the cantankerous NFC West Division.

    The Cardinals are no fluke; over the past 22 games they’re tied with Denver and New England for the best record (17-5) in the NFL.

    The football nation will be tuning in to the NFL Network to check out the Rams to see if this team is truly on the rise — or just randomly hot. After a 1-4 start to the season, the Rams have a chance to complete their difficult climb to a .500 record.

    In short, it’s an appealing showcase for a franchise that has staggered, wandered and limped to a 57-115-1 record since posting its last winning season in 2003.

    “Right now we’ve got a little momentum and we just have to keep it,” Fisher said Wednesday. “Really outstanding opponent we’re playing and they’re one of the top seeds right now. This will be a good chance for us to really see how we match up with some of the elite teams in the league.”

    Symbolic of their improved performance, the Rams are a four-point favorite over the Cardinals. They’re the betting favorite for the third consecutive game, which hasn’t been the case since Fisher took command of a massive franchise cleanup in 2012. At least they’ve captured the gamblers’ attention and respect.

    The national cable audience will inspect a hell-raising Rams defense that has 29 sacks and 15 takeaways while surrendering only six touchdowns from scrimmage over the past six games. Among NFL defenses, only Seattle (219) has allowed fewer points from scrimmage than the Rams (221) this season.

    “This is a good, young group,” Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams said. “We’ve eliminated some of those miscommunication things from a young standpoint, from an experience standpoint. They’re playing very well. We’ve got to take the next step. We’ve still got to put whatever it is behind us. It’s, ‘What have you done for me lately and how have you played for me today?’ We’ve got to get ready to play the next one.”

    Curious helmet heads will look in to scrutinize the breakaway potential of Rams rookie running back Tre Mason, the emergence of all-purpose playmaker Tavon Austin, the deep-ball threat of wide receiver Kenny Britt and the seam-busting routes of tight end Jared Cook.

    The ornery Fisher may even throw in a trick play or two … though I don’t think the mischievous coach can top what he pulled on Sunday in Washington, when he trolled the Redskins by sending out the six players procured by the Rams through the Robert Griffin III trade to represent the Rams in the pregame coin toss.

    This is a winnable game for the home team. The Cardinals, only 3-3 on the road this season, are averaging only 19.7 points (ranking 24th) away from their home base.

    Quarterback Drew Stanton — the replacement for the injured Carson Palmer — has the NFL’s worst passer rating (65.3) on the road this season. And be it home or away, the Arizona offense has scored only two touchdowns from scrimmage in its last 15 quarters.

    Under Williams, the Rams have called more blitzes than any team in the league this season. And they’ll be going after Stanton tonight.

    The Cardinals, however, remain dangerous. Their defense is among the league’s toughest, and the Big Red franchise already has won 10 games for the second consecutive season. You have to go back to the peak seasons of Don Coryell in St. Louis to find the last streak of consecutive 10-win seasons for the Cardinals.

    Local football historians will recall that the entertaining Cardinals of Coryell, Dan Dierdorf, Jackie Smith, Roger Wehrli, Jim Hart, Mel Gray and Terry Metcalf won 31 games between 1974 and ‘76.

    A contingent of “Greatest Show” era St. Louis Rams — including Marshall Faulk, Kurt Warner, Orlando Pace and Dick Vermeil — will be in the house tonight.

    It all makes for good theater.

    But this is serious business.

    The game is an undeniable credibility check for the Rams. With skepticism increasing, this is another test for the Cardinals, who are desperately trying to hold off the surging Seahawks (9-4) in the NFC West.

    The combination of factors makes for an enticing matchup. Given the ferocity of both defenses, this game likely will have the subtlety of a UFC brawl.

    “We’ve got to just keep getting these wins,” Cook said. “We’re a team that’s still growing. And we’ve got big things ahead of us. But we have to keep winning.”

    Cook is right. The Rams have teased their fans before — inflating hopes, then letting everyone down.

    Well, that can change tonight. Fisher believes his squad can play even better, and you want to believe that it’s true. The pressure is on the Rams to come through with an emphatic victory at home. Will the Rams respond, or relapse? It’s time to buckle up.

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    7 things to watch: Rams vs. Cardinals

    By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/things-to-watch-rams-vs-cardinals/article_2eceb4a0-b5a1-572f-82bd-82c874d83a6f.html

    STRUGGLES ON THE ROAD

    This marks the third game in a row that the Rams face either a rookie or a backup QB. Drew Stanton hasn’t been nearly as effective on the road as at home this season. He has completed 57% of his passes for 874 yards, six TDs, and two INTs at University of Phoenix Stadium. His home passer rating is 97.7 and he’s averaging 8.74 yards per attempt. The Cardinals are 4-0 in games he’s appeared in at home (including three starts). It’s a different story on the road, where he has completed 52.5% of his passes for 728 yards, one TD, and three INTs. His road passer rating is 63.5 and he’s averaging 6.07 yards per attempt. The Cardinals are 1-3 in games he has started on the road. Stanton is a tough guy, and has good mobility. He came off the bench to lead Arizona to a fourth-quarter comeback victory over the visiting Rams 32 days ago. But the Rams’ defense has progressed to the point where they shouldn’t let a guy like Stanton beat them.

    EYE-OPENING DEBUT

    With Andre Ellington out for the year with a hernia, unheralded RB Kerwynn Williams had an eye-opening rushing debut last week against Kansas City. Promoted from the practice squad last week, Williams rushed for 100 yards on 19 carries vs. KC, recording the first 100-yard rushing day of the season for the Big Red. Williams, a first-year player out of Utah State, reminds Jeff Fisher a little bit of Maurice Jones-Drew in terms of running style and stature.

    REST OF THE BACKFIELD

    Those were Williams’ first NFL carries, and the Cardinals have next to no experience behind him, either. Stepfan Taylor, Marion Grice and Robert Hughes have 87 NFL carries for 263 yards among them. With 46 catches, Ellington was Arizona’s second-most productive pass-catcher this season, but the Big Red threw only twice to backs vs. the Chiefs. Young backs often have problems with blitz pickup as well, so that could be an area the Rams can exploit.

    STILL THE MAN

    Larry Fitzgerald has more career receptions (131) and TDs (16) against the Rams than any other opponent — he’s played them 21 times. In the first matchup in Arizona, the eight-time Pro Bowler had nine catches for 112 yards against the Rams. But he has been slowed by a knee injury lately, missing the Nov. 23 Seattle game and Nov. 30 Atlanta contest. He was at far less than 100 percent last week vs. KC, catching four passes for just 34 yards.

    REVIVED PASS RUSH

    After getting just eight sacks in their first eight games, the Cardinals have been getting to the opposing QBs with regularity. Try 23 sacks over the past five contests, a league high over that span. Yes, that’s more than even the resurgent Rams’ pass rush, which has 21 sacks in its past five games. The Big Red hot streak started with six sacks in the first meeting vs. the Rams. OLB Alex Okafor has five sacks in his past five games; DE Frostee Rucker had a career-high two sacks last week vs. KC.

    RETURN TO SENDER

    After Tavon Austin’s banner day on punt returns against Washington, the Rams now have the league’s fourth-ranked punt returner (Austin, with an 11.1-yard average) and fifth-ranked kickoff returner (Benny Cunningham, with a 28.5-yard average). Arizona is in the bottom half of the league rankings in both punt coverage (24th) and kickoff coverage (27th). So there could be some opportunities in the return game tonight in the Edward Jones Dome.

    WINNING THE 4TH

    Arizona has been outscored in every quarter this season except the fourth. But the fourth belongs to them. In a league where nearly half the games are decided by a touchdown or less, the Cardinals know how to finish. They have outscored the opposition 99-40 in the final 15 minutes, a ratio of 2½ points to 1. They padded that total in their Nov. 9 home triumph over St. Louis, outscoring the Rams 21-0 in the fourth quarter to erase a 14-10 deficit.

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    Hey guys. I am going to merge this with the other “thotz on the ARZ game” thread.

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    “THAT ONE WAS FOR YOU, KURT COBAIN!”

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    Hill has really been a blessing and I think he’s just a LOT better than folks think, including opposing defenses.

    I think opposing defenses think of him as “the 2nd string QB” and he shouldn’t be viewed that way. He should be viewed as a middling starter because I’d totally take him over “starters” like Geno Smith…

    If the Rams can enter next year with Bradford, Hill and a high rook like maybe Hundley or Connor Cook… and sit Hundley and let him really learn (and sell him on being the next Aaron Rodgers with this D) then I think the Rams are set even if Bradford can’t really come back until mid-season.

    And, I really, REALLY don’t want Sam Bradford coming back too early and risking his knee. Hill can carry the banner until Bradford is really, really ready. Unless the rook is lights out and just flat out earns the starting spot like Wilson did when he was drafted…. I think we’re good with Hill and Sammy B.

    I agree with practically every word of that.

    Dammit, message boards are not supposed to be about AGREEMENT.

    They’re supposed to be about pointless drama queen style bickering.

    Oh well, I guess this “agreement” thing has its good points too.

    We’ll just have to agree to agree I guess.

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    This is the second time Williams has had back to back goose eggs. He did it as DC for Titans in 2000

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    Shaun Hill Part Two–Skillset (note: part 1 is in this thread]/color])

    Every year I get Lindy’s draft magazine, and they rate QB’s on the following categories: Setup/Release, Accuracy, Arm Strength, Reading Defenses, On The Move, and Intangibles.

    The following are some of my own personal thoughts as an ardent Ram fan. I’m not a scout (nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn last night), but I just wanted to articulate why I am impressed by Shaun Hill’s game. Everyone sees things differently– beauty is in the eye of the beholder– but for those of you who have your doubts about Hill, I hope you can (at least try) to understand the point of view of those (like myself) who think Shaun Hill is significantly under-rated.

    Setup/Release: Excellent.

    “Decisive and quick release” is the gold standard in this category… and Hill has got it in spades. I think one could say this is his greatest strength. When Fisher made the move to go from Davis back to Hill, he cited this as the primary reason– Davis, as a young player, tended to hold on to the ball too long, and then when the play broke down, he’d try to make something happen with his feet. Hill is the opposite– he’s decisive, quick, and gets the ball OUT of there early… exactly what a veteran NFL QB is supposed to do.

    Example: Rainbow to Britt for (30 or so) yards to Kenny Britt on the final drive of the Chargers game. (Yes, yes… this ended (of course) with Hill’s worst mistake as a Ram– but as even Fisher pointed out in his defense, he at least Hill GOT the team in position to win the game at the end). Anyway– on this pass to Britt, Hill throws with great anticipation, a rainbow which hangs in the air for what Tike Barber commented “seemed like 15 seconds!” Some may not be impressed, but I agree with Tiki– this was a GREAT throw.

    RECAP: There are many, many examples of Hill’s decisive setup and release. Fisher chose him mainly for this reason, and Mike Martz said of Hill that he was impressed by his “speed of delivery and decision making” in games. Maybe the rainbow to Britt isn’t the “best” example of this trait, but my point is he plays with great ANTICIAPTION– he gets the ball out EARLY based on where his receiver WILL BE after his break.

    Accuracy: Excellent

    To me, Hill’s accuracy is on a par with Bradford’s… it’s just a different “kind” of accuracy. If you want to hit a soda can sitting on a fence from 30 yards away with a bullet, Sam Bradford’s your man. But Shaun Hill’s game is different… he “throws his receivers open.” IMHO, Hill does a fantastic job of placing the ball in a spot where his receiver has a chance to get the ball, even if he is being defended closely by quality NFL coverage.

    EXAMPLES: There are many plays to choose from. For me, I still remember being impressed by Shaun Hill’s accuracy way back in preseason… his very last throw in the Cleveland game was an absolute STRIKE to Brian Quick… Quick was in the end zone, moving left, and Hill had to wait for him to get open and then threw the ball in a tight, tight window through a bunch of bodies where only Quick could get it…. Quick actually dropped it, but I remember thinking, that was the PERFECT throw in that situation.

    But more typical of the “Shaun Hill type of accuracy” was his very first TD pass in preseason– an EARLY throw to Stedman Bailey, to his OUTSIDE shoulder, placed in the spot where only Bailey could get it, and the announcers (Holt and Faulk among them) raving about how well-placed the ball was.

    RECAP: I did not take the time to “research” specifically plays from the regular season… but there are many of them. The key thing for me is how Hill throws early and to a spot where only his receiver can catch it. It may not be as pretty as other QB’s with a different style, who more routinely “zip it in there” in a tight window. But Hill’s early, well-timed, accurately placed throws can be deadly effective.

    Arm Strength: Good.

    Shaun Hill has more than adequate arm strength, he just does. I remember Fisher talking about how they would not need to adjust the playbook for Shaun after Bradford went down, specifically because Hill had enough arm strength to “make all the throws.”

    Examples: Two plays stick out to me from the last WAS game. Hill’s first pass of the game: Rams are backed up on their own 16 yd line, 3rd down and 11 with 9:07 to go in the 1st Quarter. Hill goes back and just launches one to Jared Cook down the middle for a gain of 16. Hill put his whole body behind it and just cranked it, the ball came out (clichéd but this is what came to mind) like shot out of a cannon. Hill doesn’t always crank it like this– his throws are more about anticipation and timing– but when he NEEDS to, he CAN crank it. Also: On 1st and 15 with 3:20 left in the first half, Kenny Britt does his stop-and-go down the right sideline. Hill is rolling right, and a little off balance he “chucks” it deep to Britt for the successful completion. This is a standard Rams play that we’ve seen before… quite memorably, Austin Davis tried this play (also intended for Britt deep down the right sideline) against KC. I seem to remember Davis torqued his whole body and really made the effort to launch it, but the ball just died on him and it fell short for the interception.

    RECAP: Shaun Hill has plenty of arm strength to be a winning NFL QB. Hill tailors his game so it’s more about good decision making and timing… but when he needs to crank it, he has the ability required.

    Reading Defenses: Excellent

    Again, IMHO this is one of Hill’s greatest strengths. Hill is a veteran who has LEARNED from his vast experience.

    Examples: Below is a transcript of one of Jeff Fisher’s comments about Hill after the Raiders game:

    (On how QB Shaun Hill maneuvered out of some plays to get the ball out quick and how much freedom and structure he has with getting the ball out quicker)
    Fisher: “Well I think in most situations, with the exceptions of third down stuff. First and second down stuff quarterbacks have options, whether they’re run-run options or whether they’re run-pass options. That’s all built in. He took advantage of the built in options, but he also completely changed some things that actually worked out pretty well for us. As I said, our plan was to run the football and it wasn’t there so we had that little quick pass game option. Which in essence, in that case, is still a part of the running game, but it worked for us. It tended to soften some things up for us.”

    Keeping in mind Fisher’s comments, I re-watched the opening drive against the Raiders. (Hill was 4 for 4 for 50-some yards capped by a TD).

    –After a Raider penalty to make it 1st and 5, Hill throws a completion to Harkey on his left for 8 yards and a first down.

    –Next play was (I believe) initially a run-call. But when Hill saw that Tavon was on his left, lined up “stacked” behind Kenny Britt– and the Raiders D was playing too “soft”. To me, this was a prime example of Hill taking advantage of “the little quick pass game option” that was “in essence a part of the running game.” Hill made a quick “sight read” to just immediately pass to Austin with a Rams WR as a blocker in front of him– essentially like a handoff to Austin out wide in space. Austin picks up 6 yards.

    –2nd and 4, with Austin lined up the same way, just on the opposite side, on the right, again “stacked” behind Kenny Britt. Raiders again did not respect it enough, so again Hill made them play– a sight-read quick-pass to Austin, who beats his man and picks up the first down. Move the chains, keep Austin involved, give him the ball quick and right away in space. Just seemed like a great veteran move on Hill’s part– if you keep giving us this play, we’ll keep taking it until you have to adjust.

    –On the final play of the drive, Tavon Austin goes in motion and at the snap for a THIRD STRAIGHT TIME is lined up “stacked” behind an outside WR. The Rams had the PERFECT play call, Hill faked the third-straight quick-out to Tavon on his left, but then turned around and threw the screen to Mason on his right. The Raider MLB completely bit on the fake and took himself out of the play, and Mason rambled down the right sideline for the TD. Just great game management from Shaun Hill– take what the defense gives you, force them to adjust, and then execute the killer “counter” play. Schottenheimer and Hill obviously saw something on film about this, and they worked together to exploit it.

    RECAP: To me, “reading defenses” is one thing I love about Shaun Hill– all the stuff we as fans DON’T see when it comes to game planning and in-game adjustments. I just trust that he is like an extra coach out there, and making smart decisions… the difference between winning and losing in the NFL is so small, and just a few plays based on savvy and experience can be crucial.

    On the Move: Good Enough

    Obviously Shaun Hill is no runner, but to me I think he has enough of that “sixth sense” of detecting where the rush is coming from and shifting/sliding in the pocket to extend plays. (BTW, this is my biggest concern about Bradford even when healthy– I just am concerned that Bradford is decidedly below-average in this department, he often looks slow as molasses when “evading” the rush… but that is a different conversation.)

    EXAMPLE: The naked bootleg for the TD! The speed, the grace, the power… no, just kiddingthumbs up smiley… (though he CAN pick up yards if he needs to with his feet)

    My real example: 3rd and 3 at their own 22yd. line, early in the 3rd quarter against the Denver Broncos. Rams were only up 13-7 at this point, and I think we as fans did NOT want the Rams to go 3-and-out and give Peyton Manning a short-field with the chance to take the lead. Anyway… Hill feels the pressure from the rush, and has to shift to his left, and kinda-while moving backwards and to his left throws a pass to Benny Cunningham’s outside shoulder (or hip) despite blanket coverage, and Rams gain 7 and keep the chains moving. The play-by-play announcer comments on the continued impressive play throughout the game thus far(“Hill continues to make good decisions”winking smiley, while Dan Fouts (a good evaluator of QB play, ya think?) raves that Hill’s throw is “tremendous.” I believe that Fisher also made particular note of this play after the game, as an example of how Shaun Hill has the ability to “extend plays.”

    RECAP: Yes, as a runner Shaun Hill is no Colin Kaepernick. (embarrassed smileyHa– no comment). But as is required for pocket passers, Shaun Hill does have the knack for shifting and sliding in the pocket to extend plays when he needs to.

    Intangibles– Excellent.

    Obviously, this is subjective. But from what I’ve seen, I’d agree with some of Mike Martz’s recent comments about Hill– that Hill is “a winner”, a “tremendous leader,” and “the fiercest competitor on your football team.”

    EXAMPLE: After the first half of the recent WAS game, Shaun Hill reportedly had a meeting to rally the offense, and in particular with Joe Barksdale, who had allowed Ryan Kerrigan to get into his head. (Apparently Corey Harkey lit into the team too). The point is, from all I’ve heard, Shaun Hill is a respected veteran who is not afraid to be vocal and call people out (if necessary) and do whatever it takes to be a leader.[Frankly, I remember hearing about this, but did not want to spend forever tracking down a link to “prove” my point… if some other poster can find a link –Rams43 mentioned this as well– feel free to help me out here!]

    RECAP: For me, the “intangibles” is all about an emotional reaction to watching Shaun Hill at QB. There is just something in his play which inspires a quiet calm confidence. For me, I noticed it at halftime of the WAS game– despite the Rams clearly outplaying Washington, they were only up 6-0 as Jeff Wilkins right before halftime missed his THIRD straight kick. It would have been so easy, and predictable, for me to think “oh, here it is again, that same ugly pattern– Rams win, then lose, win, then lose. And they play well at the beginning, but then they blow it in the second half.” But Shaun Hill had driven the team to the ‘Skins 20 yard line at the end of the half, and–even though Wilkins looked scary unreliable– I just had a confidence that Shaun Hill would do his part to make smart decisions and he wouldn’t let adversity derail the offense, he’d keep the offense chugging along. Frankly, with both Davis (this year) and Bradford, during games I often have this uneasy feeling that the wheels “could” come off… but there is something about Hill that makes me think you are going to keep getting solid, smart, steady play throughout the game.

    BOTTOM LINE

    In my opinion, Shaun Hill has good enough mobility to extend plays, has good arm strength, has excellent accuracy and the ability to “throw receivers open”, and is superior in the three categories of Setup/Release, Reading Defenses, and Intangibles. IMHO, despite his casual “aw shucks” Kansas demeanor, he is a fierce, under-rated competitor who has been a WINNER whenever he’s been given the chance.

    Hill does not have a “pretty” game– but that is what I find beautiful about it. Some of his passes may wobble, but they get to the right spot. And he does all those little veteran-things that help put his team in the right position. Maybe because Hill’s game is more cerebral and not as pretty, many posters look at his impressive over-90 passer rating and 3-1 record as a full-game starter and react with “yawn” and “ho-hum” and are inclined to look under rocks for any old FA QB who could just “replace” Hill. I just think Hill is a hugely under-rated asset for the Rams. I’m afraid we all might feel like Martz did after the 2008 season, when the 49ers started 2-6 with JT O’Sulllivan but finished 5-3 with Hill as QB…like Martz, we might look back and think “Hill should’ve been the starter all season” and wonder what might have been.

    My only knock on Hill is his age– if he were 32, that would be awesome. But maybe after reading my two (longish) posts, at least some on here would at least understand my reasoning why I think the Rams should keep him– and consider giving Hill the keys to the car in 2015 and see how far he can drive this team. Given that Hill is a pocket passer who counts on quick decision-making, I think he should have at least 2 more good years left in him. (Heck, given his many years stuck as a backup he probably has less “wear” on him.)

    And don’t just take my word for it– our old friends from the GSOT days seem to love him. Martz sings his praises; Kurt Warner recently gave Hill credit for being the “difference maker” for the Rams resurgent offense; I can still remember how Holt was gushing about Hill’s “tremendous” play during pre-season; D’Marco Farr is sky-high on him, too.

    In closing, check out this cool (short 50-sec.) link to Marshall Faulk asking all NFL fans, “Who is the crafty veteran on your team?”

    Faulk, with his enthusiastic style, talks about the experienced vet who does all those little things that help his team win– but doesn’t show up on the score sheet. IMHO, Shaun Hill can be that “crafty veteran,” a great leader for the young talent Snisher have stockpiled the last few years.

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    Rams-Cardinals: Matchup breakdown

    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/14503/rams-cardinals-matchup-breakdown-2

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — A look at three individual matchups to keep an eye on when the St. Louis Rams and Arizona Cardinals meet at 8:25 p.m. ET on Thursday.

    Rams defensive tackle Michael Brockers vs. Cardinals left guard Ted Larsen/Jonathan Cooper

    The Cardinals are banged up on the offensive line with Fanaika dealing with an ankle sprain since Week 13 and far from a certainty to play this week. If Fanaika is out, the normal left guard Ted Larsen will replace him on the right side forcing Cooper into the lineup. In fact, it’s probably a better bet that Cooper will make his second consecutive start. Cooper was the highly-touted guard prospect from North Carolina in 2013 who missed the season with a knee injury and has still be working his way to the starting lineup. Against Kansas City last week, Arizona coach Bruce Arians said Cooper was ‘OK’ but mentioned that he’d been pushed backwards about 10 times.

    In Brockers, Cooper (or Larsen) would be drawing the most favorable matchup of any of the Cardinals offensive linemen. That’s not to say Brockers is a pushover so much as it’s better than having to deal with the likes of Robert Quinn and Aaron Donald. But Brockers has played much better in recent weeks, particularly against the run and he’s a big, powerful sort who could give the athletic but smaller Cooper some issues. The Cardinals are going to have their hands full upfront but their line has been much improved in 2014. Brockers versus Fanaika or Cooper isn’t the draw of other matchups upfront but it could be an important one in determining the outcome.

    Rams cornerback E.J. Gaines vs. Cardinals receiver John Brown

    The Rams defense is playing so well right now that it seems the only way to really beat them is to get a big play. Well, few players in the league have a knack for the big play like Brown. The Rams found that out first hand in the first meeting between the teams when Brown made a spectacular diving catch for a 48-yard touchdown that was ultimately the game winner. Brown has made a habit of those big plays in his rookie season though his production has tailed off a bit since that big catch against St. Louis.

    The Rams, meanwhile, are getting much better production out of their secondary lately in part because they’re finally healthy. With Trumaine Johnson back, the Rams have been using Gaines as the starter at left cornerback but kicking him inside in the nickel. That’s where Gaines could see plenty of Brown this time around. Brown beat safety Rodney McLeod for the touchdown in Arizona but Gaines is a reliable cover type who hasn’t allowed many big plays this year.

    It’s unlikely the Rams can continue to pitch shutouts but if they want another one, they’ll need Gaines to be on point against Brown.

    Rams tight end Jared Cook vs. Cardinals safety Deone Bucannon

    I wanted to avoid repeats from the first matchup here but I’m making an exception for this one considering Cook’s success against the Cardinals in that meeting. Cook had two catches for 84 yards and a touchdown in that game and Arizona continues to struggle to cover tight ends consistently.

    Even before that, Cook had a big game in the 2013 season opener when he torched Arizona to the tune of seven catches for 141 yards and two touchdowns. He would have had three scores if not for an amazing play by Cardinals defensive back Tyrann Mathieu to force a fumble just before Cook crossed the goal line. Regardless, Arizona was one of the worst teams in the league last year defending tight ends which led directly to the selection of Bucannon.

    Bucannon has been used primarily in the nickel and dime for the Cardinals but has flashed the potential to help in a variety of ways. He had his first career fumble recovery in Week 8 against Philadelphia and has 39 tackles and two passes defended so far in his rookie season. With Mathieu out because of a thumb injury and cornerback Antonio Cromartie battling an ankle issue, the Cardinals figure to have some question marks in the secondary. That could mean any plans to help slow Cook might have to be altered to help elsewhere.

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    W2W4: St. Louis Rams

    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/14500/w2w4-st-louis-rams-18

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams and the Arizona Cardinals kick off Week 15 on Thursday at the Edward Jones Dome. Kickoff is set for 8:25 p.m. ET on NFL Network.

    Here are three things to watch from the Rams’ perspective:

    1. Sacking Stanton: Arizona quarterback Drew Stanton has had his ups and downs since taking over for Carson Palmer, but all told he’s 4-3 as the starter. Still, Stanton’s home/road splits are pretty glaring and he’s entering an extremely difficult situation against a Rams’ pass rush that is every bit as ferocious right now as it was expected to be at the beginning of the season. The Rams have 34 sacks since Week 7, most in the league in that time and have seen their rank in total sacks go from last in the league to tied for seventh in that time. Making matters more complicated for Arizona is the fact Jonathan Cooper is still settling in as the starter at left guard with right guard Paul Fanaika and left tackle Jared Veldheer battling ankle injuries. Stanton is 3-0 with an 80.7 QBR at home but those numbers fall to 1-3 with a 34.2 QBR when the Cardinals travel.

    2. Big-play chances: Quarterback isn’t the only position with a new look for the Cardinals since the Rams last played them. Arizona is dealing with even more injury issues in the secondary, having since lost Tyrann Mathieu to a thumb injury and cornerback Antonio Cromartie now dealing with an ankle issue. Mathieu is out for Thursday night and Cromartie’s situation is more unclear, but either way, it could open some opportunities for the Rams to make some big plays in the passing game. That’s been something quarterback Shaun Hill has done pretty well since he’s been starting. For the season, Hill is 13-of-27 on passes traveling at least 15 yards in the air for 369 yards, two touchdowns and one interceptions for a QBR of 98.3. Those big plays have often gone to receiver Kenny Britt in recent weeks, but tight end Jared Cook and receiver Stedman Bailey have also been in on the action. Arizona’s secondary had a big day against the Rams in the first meeting but with Hill under center, St. Louis should be better equipped to take care of the ball and make some plays in the passing game.

    3. Stick to the formula: Speaking of taking care of the ball, I see no reason to change what’s working for the Rams in recent weeks. The formula isn’t hard to figure out. Don’t turn the ball over, take the ball away and you are in great position to win. The Rams didn’t have any turnovers in Washington last week and improved to 4-0 on the season when they don’t give it away. That’s not a coincidence. The defense, meanwhile, continues to come up with takeaways. Turnovers made the difference in the first meeting between these teams and ultimately landed Austin Davis a spot on the bench. If Hill can eliminate those mistakes, the Rams will be well positioned to get the win.

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    We’ve been through this before. I’ve posted about how Fisher’s Titans teams get boiled down to their raw averages, when in fact, they tend to peak for a few years then valley then peak again.

    Using raw averages without context always distorts things.

    So for example, is he a .462 coach to start a season?

    Not if you look.

    What about their 1st 4 games, every season?

    1995. 2-2 to start, 7-9 season.
    1996. 2-2 to start, 8-8 season.
    1997. 1-3 to start, 8-8 season.
    1998. 1-3 to start, 8-8 season.

    1999. 3-1 to start, 13-3 season.
    2000. 3-1 to start, 13-3 season.
    2001. 1-3 to start, 7-9 season.
    2002. 1-3 to start, 11-5 season.
    2003. 3-1 to start, 12-4 season.

    2004. 1-3 to start, 5-11 season.
    2005. 1-3 to start, 4-12 season.
    2006. 0-4 to start, 8-8 season.

    2007. 3-1 to start, 10-6 season.
    2008. 4-0 to start, 13-3 season

    2009. 0-4 to start, 8-8 season.
    2010. 2-2 to start, 6-10 season.

    When his team peaks (1999-2003 & 2007-8) his avg. record in the first 4 games is 2.6 to 1.4, or 65%, not 46%.

    Should it take less time that 4 years to get a team up and winning?

    Well once he did it in 4, and once he did it in 3.

    This time he seems to be doing it in 4.

    Does that to me really question him as a head coach?

    No. It took Noll 4. Shrug.

    ….

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    One interesting PFF stat.

    Hill is ranked 3rd in accuracy percentage under pressure.

    This ranking includes only qbs who have thrown 100 or more passes.

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    Unrest Over Race Is Testing Obama’s Legacy

    By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS and MICHAEL D. SHEAR
    DEC. 8, 2014

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/09/us/politics/unrest-over-race-is-testing-obamas-legacy-.html?_r=0

    WASHINGTON — As crowds of people staged “die-ins” across the country last week to protest the deaths of unarmed black men at the hands of police officers, young African-American activists were in the Oval Office lodging grievances with President Obama.

    He of all people — the first black president of the United States — was in a position to testify to the sense of injustice that African-Americans feel in dealing with the police every day, the activists told him. During the unrest that began with a teenager’s shooting in Ferguson, Mo., they hoped for a strong response. Why was he holding back?

    Mr. Obama told the group that change is “hard and incremental,” a participant said, while reminding them that he had once been mistaken for a waiter and parking valet. When they said their voices were not being heard, Mr. Obama replied, “You are sitting in the Oval Office, talking to the president of the United States.”

    For Rasheen Aldridge Jr., 20, a community organizer from St. Louis who attended the meeting, it was not enough. “It hurt that he didn’t seem to want to go out there and acknowledge that he understands our pain,” Mr. Aldridge said in an interview. “It would be a great mark on his presidential legacy if he would come out and touch an issue that everyone is scared to touch.”

    But Mr. Obama has not been the kind of champion for racial justice that many African-Americans say this moment demands. In the days since grand juries in Missouri and Staten Island decided not to bring charges against white police officers who had killed unarmed black men, the president has not stood behind the protesters or linked arms with civil rights leaders. Although those closest to Mr. Obama insist that he feels a new urgency to capitalize on the attention to racial divisions, few dispute that he is personally conflicted and constrained by the position he holds.

    “We are really on a precipice of either going in the right direction or entrenching a very perilous racial divide in this country, so I think he’s trying to harness that and tread very carefully,” said Janai Nelson, associate director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund Inc. “This is a phenomenal opportunity for him to create a lasting legacy in an area that has plagued African-Americans in particular for decades.”

    For his six years in the White House, aides say, Mr. Obama has been hyperconscious that he is the president of everyone and has sought to avoid defining himself or his agenda on the basis of race. Although he did address the 2012 shooting death of an unarmed black teenager, Trayvon Martin, in personal terms, Mr. Obama rose to national prominence with a 2004 Democratic National Convention speech in which he cast himself as the product of a broad American experience, a place where “there is not a black America and a white America.”

    The son of a white woman from Kansas and a black man from Kenya has struggled with questions about his own racial identity — described in his book “Dreams From My Father” — but Mr. Obama is by nature cool and cerebral and rarely shows emotion in public.

    Yet in an interview with Black Entertainment Television that aired Monday night, Mr. Obama suggested that critics who say he has not been sufficiently outspoken in response to the deaths in Ferguson and Staten Island have their facts wrong or are expecting something he cannot deliver as president.

    “I’m being pretty explicit about my concern, and being pretty explicit about the fact that this is a systemic problem, that black folks and Latinos and others are not just making this up,” Mr. Obama said, referring to his response to the killings in Ferguson and on Staten Island, where Eric Garner, 43, died after a police officer restrained him with a chokehold. People may be frustrated that he has not taken sides in the cases, Mr. Obama said, but “that I cannot do, institutionally.” He hinted that in private, his reactions have been stronger.

    “I’ll leave it to people to speculate on what I’m saying to myself or Michelle when we’re alone at night,” the president said.

    White House advisers say addressing the nation’s racial conflicts is now an imperative for the president’s final years in office. “What’s different about right now is that the president of the United States is committing that he intends to make progress on this issue,” Valerie Jarrett, a senior adviser to the president, said in an interview last week. “We have an opportunity now, with the American people — not just in Ferguson or in New York, but across the country.”

    Mr. Obama has stepped up some of his rhetoric. In a huddle with Ms. Jarrett and Attorney General Eric H. Holder, Jr. in the Oval Office last month, the president ripped up the beginning of a speech he was about to give on immigration and added a pledge to advocates for change that “your president will be right there with you.”

    His administration has also pushed for sentencing guidelines that are more fair to African-Americans, reached out to young black men with the “My Brother’s Keeper” initiative and created a task force to address tensions between black Americans and law enforcement agents. A number of civil rights leaders, however, say the president has not done enough.

    “People appreciate the fact that he heightened the public awareness of this by making statements and making sure that the attorney general has been present,” said Tanya Clay House, the director of public policy for the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law. But, she said, “there’s a desire to push the administration further.”

    At this point, Mr. Obama’s response to Ferguson, Staten Island and the unrest across the country has diminished his image with important groups, according to new polling figures. Half the respondents in a Pew Research Center survey conducted Wednesday to Sunday disapproved of the president’s handling of race relations, compared with 40 percent who approved — a reversal from August, when 48 percent approved and 42 percent disapproved. While the majority of African-Americans still said the president had handled race relations well, support among them had dropped 16 points since polling in the summer.

    For now, civil rights leaders continue to lobby Ms. Jarrett and other White House aides to pressure the president into seizing on the post-Ferguson anger. But Mr. Obama is limited in how directly he can engage. He sent representatives to the funeral of Michael Brown, the 18-year-old shot in Ferguson, and the youth’s parents said they thought it was better for Mr. Obama not to pay his respects in person rather than risk creating more chaos.

    In Ms. Jarrett’s view, Mr. Brown’s death has unleashed a new energy among Americans on an issue that Mr. Obama is ready to embrace. During the Oval Office meeting last week, she said, the president urged the young activists to accept incremental steps even as they fight for more sweeping change.

    “Shoot for the sky,” Ms. Jarrett said he had told them, “but ‘better’ is good.”

    Because of an editing error, an article on Tuesday about President Obama’s addressing the country’s racial conflicts omitted part of a quotation, and in so doing altered the context. In quoting the president, Valerie Jarrett, one of his senior advisers, said that he told young activists in a meeting last week to “shoot for the sky,” adding, “but ‘better’ is good.” He did not say only “Shoot for the sky.” The article also paraphrased incorrectly from Ms. Jarrett’s comment about the protests surrounding the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo. She said his death has unleashed a new energy among Americans, not among African-Americans.

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    I expect another brutal hard-fought NFC West type division game.

    They had them last time but melted down. I expect more “had them” and less “melt down” this time.

    I expect the Rams to score on them, and this really is the big statement game for the born-again defense.

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    from a “fan blog” article by Nathan Kearns

    http://ramblinfan.com/2014/12/08/quick-thoughts-st-louis-rams-win-washington-redskins/

    There have been six shutouts in the NFL this season. Two of those belong to the St. Louis Rams, who are the only ones to accomplish the feat on the road this season. With his players finally acclimated to his defense scheme, Gregg Williams is having his way with opposing offenses. Yesterday, the Redskins were 3-for-15 on 3rd/4th down conversion attempts, and managed only 206 total yards on 55 plays. Moreover, the Rams won the turnover battle for the third time in four games, including finishing with a +2 or higher turnover differential for the second-consecutive week.

    3. Speaking of turnovers, the majority of those takeaways this season are coming from interceptions (12); a stark turnaround from last season where fumble recoveries were king. After T.J. McDonald snagged a Colt McCoy pass in the second half yesterday, every member of the Rams starting secondary unit has nabbed an interception this season. In fact, aside from McDonald, the other four “starters” (McLeod, Jenkins, Gaines, and Johnson) each have at least two picks on the season. As a result, the Rams are currently tied for 10th in the league in takeaways, and rank in that same spot in overall turnover differential on the year (+4).

    4. However, takeaways is not the only area that the St. Louis Rams are ranked highly in this season. After starting off with a historically-low one total sack in the opening five games of the season, the St. Louis Rams are currently tied for 7th-most in the NFL (35). The Rams unyielding pass rush has managed 18.0 sacks in the last four games, more than Atlanta (14) and Cincinnati (15) have amassed all season. The Rams are also tied for the league-lead in interceptions returned for touchdowns this year, and are one of only eight teams with 3 or more defensive scores on the year. Lastly, the Rams are allowing only 37.8% of third down conversion attempts to be completed (9th), and are the only team in the NFL that hasn’t allowed a successful fourth-down conversion attempt this season (min. five attempts against)

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    http://ramblinfan.com/2014/12/08/quick-thoughts-st-louis-rams-win-washington-redskins/

    According to Pro Football Focus, Aaron Donald is the No.2 overall graded defensive lineman in the league this season, trailing only likely Defensive Player of the Year, J.J. Watt.

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    from off the net

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    fwiw, through week 14 teams have been penalized an average of 6.7 times per game – the rams were penalized an average of 9.5 times per game over the last two outings yet beat the living snot out their two opponents by a combined score of 76-0.

    last year the seahawks were the most penalized team in the league and won the super bowl. the year before the ravens were the 3rd most penalized team and won the super bowl. currently the 10-3 packers, the 10-3 broncos and the 9-4 seahawks make up three of the four most penalized teams through week 14.

    i hate penalties as much as the next guy but way, way too much is made of them. all told, 95 out of 100 plays are not penalized in the nfl, i.e. 95% of the plays run and defended each week are penalty-free.

    the rams haven’t been a bad team because they’ve been penalized a lot, they’ve been a bad team because they’ve been ineffective with the 95 out of 100 penalty-free plays they’ve run and defended. but, thankfully, that seems to be changing!

    a few more stats:

    > the rams rank tied for second in opening drive tds.

    > they’re also tied for 9th in opening drive scoring (tds & field goals)

    > teams have deferred 70% of the time this year.

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    This has officially become a political post. Time to move it i think.

    I think you’re right…there were several posts in a row that did not even mention the Washington team name issue, and were more about race fractures in the USA today.

    For the time being I compromised, and moved those posts to a new thread in the Public House forum. It actually reads as a free-standing, coherent, distinct and separate thread. —>

    http://theramshuddle.com/topic/race-issues-depressing/

    What remains is at least about the Washington team name issue. It is still an open question whether that belongs on this board or the Public Forum.

    ..

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    XXXIVwin

    I feel like a lot of fans see Hill as a 13 year vet who had never been “the guy”– the conventional wisdom being “Hill’s a career backup for a reason.” However– when I look at his career, I see a guy who has (perhaps) been CONSISTENTLY under-appreciated — and maybe due to some circumstances beyond his control–never got the chances he perhaps deserved. If Hill hadn’t been stuck on teams with good QB’s ahead of him on the depth chart–such as Dante Culpepper, Alex Smith, and Matthew Stafford– his career path might have been totally different.

    Let’s take another look at Shaun Hill’s career… and try to keep an open mind.

    2002-2005 Minnesota Vikings

    For 2002, 2003, and 2004, Shaun Hill was stuck behind Daunte Culpepper, who was winging it to Randy Moss. In 2005, Brad Johnson took over for the injured Culpepper and had a terrific season. So Hill didn’t get his chance behind Culpepper and Brad Johnson…. understandable, if you ask me .

    2006 49ers

    The prior year, in 2005, the 49ers selected Alex Smith with the overall #1 pick. When Shaun Hill went to the 49ers in 2006, Hill did not get a single snap.

    RECAP so far: in five NFL seasons, Shaun Hill never gets a chance to show his stuff– he does not attempt a single pass. Given that he was stuck on the depth chart behind Daunte Culpepper (Vikes) and Alex Smith (49ers), I think this has more to do with the quality of QB’s ahead of him more than anything else.

    2007-2009 Still with 49ers

    In 2007, Shaun Hill finally gets his chance. In my opinion– sounds like he played exceptionally well for a bad team.

    The Niners are pitiful in 2007– they start the season 3-9. In the Niners’ Week 14 game vs. the Vikings, Trent Dilfer is injured (concussion) and Hill FINALLY gets his chance. Hill finishes that Vikings game 22 of 27 for 181 yds and 1 TD with no INT. Hill makes his first career start the following week in week 15 (win against CIN) and posts the W. Hill follows that up with a win in week 16 vs. TB, but is injured by a late-hit in the back and cannot go for the season finale in week 17. To RECAP Shaun Hill’s 2007: Niners are 3-11 in all other games, but with Shaun Hill as the full-game starter they are 2-0. Hill’s numbers for 2007: 54 of 79 for 501 yds, 5 TDS and 1 INT for a gaudy passer rating of 101.3. A very promising start.

    2008 49ers Season

    Here’s where things get, well, a little weird. Our good friend Mike Martz is brought in as the OC for the Niners in 2008. To open the 2008 season, Martz has pre-determined that he wants his hand-picked guy JT O’Sullivan to be his QB. (There’s even some weird Machiavellian behind-the-scenes stuff that Hill is supposed to have a “tired camp arm” so that the job can be “won” by O’Sullivan by default… Martz did have his quirks). In a recent radio interview, Martz says this was a huge mistake; Martz says, “looking back, Shaun Hill should have been our starter all year.”

    Key talking points from Martz: Hill “demonstrated what a winner he was… and a tremendous leader”…. that Hill “should’ve been the starter all year”…. Hill “struggled in practice but played exceptionally well (in games)”… Hill was a “tough competitor” and Martz was “surprised by how well (Hill) sees things on the field”…Martz was impressed by Hill’s “speed of delivery and decision making” in games…. and ultimately Martz regrets that he “underestimated Shaun Hill’s ability.”

    In 2008, the 49ers under JT O’Sullivan are a mess. They start out 2-6. So Martz and the Niners decide to hand the reins over to Shaun Hill. Hill goes on to have a terrific second half of the season; the Niners go 5-3. (Let me repeat that: without Hill, Niners 2-6; with Hill, Niners 5-3. See a “winner” pattern here?) He is (unfortunately) named NFC Offensive player of the week against our beloved Rams, and in 2 of his losses– he brings the team to within a yard of upsetting Kurt Warner’s Cardinals, and passes for over 300 yds in a loss vs.the Cowboys. His stats look pretty darn good to me: 13 pass TD (along with 2 rush TD), 8 INT, 2046 pass yds, and a respectable 87.5 QB rating. But to me, the glaring thing is his W-L record: in 2 seasons, 49ers are 5-17 without Hill as the starter; with Hill as the starter, 49ers are 7-3. WOW.

    2009 49ers season

    Entering 2009, it’s Shaun Hill vs. former-#1-overall draft pick Alex Smith for the starting QB job. (Martz is no longer with team, Singletary has taken over as HC).

    Shaun Hill wins the job in preseason, and starts 2009 out great– Hill goes 3-1 as a starter (with wins over our beloved Rams, Hawks, and Cards) with his only loss being on the road vs. the undefeated Vikings, where Hill was 15 of 25 with 2 TD and 1 INT and marched the team to a lead late in the game, only to have Brett Favre pull it out for the Vikings (memorably) with a 30 yard TD with 2 seconds on the clock. Hill’s career so far: not many early opportunities, but despite playing on some BAD teams, he amazingly has a career won-loss record as a starter of 10-4.

    And then… Hill posts a clunker for a game-and-a-half. (Hey, he’s human, OK?)

    Hill does not play well in a loss to the Falcons, nor in the first half vs. the Texans; he’s pulled at the half for Alex Smith, who goes on to resurrect his career. Still, Hill was 3-2 as the full-game starter; otherwise, the Niners were 5-6.

    2010- 2013 Detroit Lions

    The 2010 Detroit Lions had a sloppy 6-10 season (saddled with Scott Linehan lips are sealed smiley as OC and Tim Walton confused smiley as secondary coach). Due to various injuries, the Lions rotated QB’s between Matthew Stafford, Shaun Hill, and Drew Stanton. After Stafford went down to injury late in Game 1, Hill rallied the team and threw what “looked” like the winning TD pass late in the game, but was overturned because possession was not maintained “through the end of the catch”– what later became referred to (because of this play) as “the Calvin Johnson rule.” With Hill as the full-game starter, Lions go 3-6; otherwise Lions go 3-4 (this is the only season where team has a better W-L record without Hill rather than with him).

    And Hill was never going to be “the guy” in Detroit with Matthew Stafford around. Hill played hardly at all in 2011 and 2013; but in spot duty in 2012, Hill posted a 157.9 passer rating (OK, so I’m emphasizing the good stuff here).

    THE BOTTOM LINE

    OK, so I’ve taken the time to go through Hill’s career stats. Hill has played on some decidedly mediocre teams. And here is the stat that really gets me. In the years Hill had the opportunity to play complete games– 2007, 2008, 2009 [49ers], 2010 [Lions], and 2014 [Rams]– here is the W-L record:

    With Shaun Hill as the full-game starter, his teams are 16-12.

    Without Shaun hill as the full-game starter, his teams are 16-33.

    WOW. The dude is a W-I-N-N-E-R.

    (The splits, for those who are amazed–understandably– by this stat: 2007, 2-0 with Hill vs.3-11 without; 2008, 5-3 with Hill, 2-6 without; 2009, 3-2 with Hill, 5-6 without; 2010 3-6 with Hill, 3-4 without; 2014, 3-1 with Hill, 3-6 without). In fairness, I included Hill’s W-L record ONLY for the games where Hill stats both starts and finishes– if Hill was pulled at halftime, or came on for an injured player, I put those games in the overall “team” W-L category.

    If Hill is your full-game starter, your teams go 16-12. You gotta lose 21 STRAIGHT GAMES to get to the “without Hill as full-time starter” 16-33 mark.

    So I just hope Rams fans don’t take Hill’s 2014 W-L record for granted– this is a PATTERN in his career. IF the Rams beat the Cards, and then the Giants– don’t just give all the credit to the Rams resurgent D– keep your mind open to the possibility that maybe, just maybe, Hill is a winner who knows how to help his team win games. And his teams miss him when he is not in there.

    I understand that some people will never be convinced by Hill, no matter what. But I for one would be really disappointed if the Rams let Hill walk in 2015. The guy is an under-appreciated, under-valued QB who WINS GAMES for you.

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    Rams have little time to prepare

    By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-have-little-time-to-prepare/article_ea607d12-b340-556a-87e5-1bdac39b901c.html

    Win, lose, or draw, the time-honored custom in the NFL is that players, and coaches for that matter, get 24 hours to celebrate or stew over that week’s result before moving on to the next challenge.

    But the “24-hour rule” has been scrapped this week at Rams Park. With the Arizona Cardinals coming to town for a Thursday night game at the Edward Jones Dome, there’s not even a “24-minute rule” this week.

    “There’s no minutes,” linebacker James Laurinaitis said Sunday about 20 minutes after the Rams’ 24-0 victory at Washington. “It’s already Wednesday of game week — you’re already preparing for first- and second-down run and play-action and all that stuff. So hop on this plane here and start rolling the tape.”

    Normally tape review comes Monday, and the players don’t get any semblance of the game plan until Wednesday, which under a normal schedule is the first day of the practice week.

    But with only three days to get ready, that schedule gets condensed this week. Through the wonders of the iPad, players and coaches watched game film of the Washington contest, plus got a head start on Arizona on the flight home Sunday night.

    “We watched the (Washington) game on the airplane last night,” coach Jeff Fisher said. “The coaches got together and got as much done as they possibly could.”

    Before the flight back to St. Louis, quarterback Shaun Hill said he planned to watch the Washington tape, plus at least one or two Arizona games before calling it a night.

    “You know, that’s kind of the way these Thursday night games work,” Hill said. “I mean, it’s long hours up until game time. You’ve got to get everything in in a shorter period of time. But we’ll do that, and we’ll handle it well.”

    After playing four consecutive games outside the division, at least the Rams have the benefit of playing an NFC West opponent, Arizona, who they faced just 30 days ago in Glendale, Ariz., in a 31-14 loss.

    “Luckily it’s a familiar opponent,” Laurinaitis said. “So we’ve got to hunker down and really focus on getting the body right. It’s hard because it’s a short week and you just want to kind of turn your mind off a little bit. But let’s go get this. Let’s get in the cold tub. Let’s get the body right.”

    At a team meeting Monday, Fisher told the players that the keys to success during a short work week are recovery and preparation. Recovery meaning the process of getting the body right through treatment, including, as Laurinaitis said, hopping into the cold tub. Preparation means making the most out of somewhat limited time for film study, time in the meeting room and time on the practice field.

    Because of the 7:25 p.m. kickoff, Fisher has adjusted the daily schedule to get the players’ body clocks acclimated to a night schedule. For example, the team held a walk-through Monday at 5 p.m., to go over the first- and second-down portion of the game plan for the Cardinals.

    Today, the Rams will work from 4:30-6 p.m., with a combination walk-through and practice.

    On Wednesday, the on-field work will be a combination of what the team does on a normal Friday and Saturday. “We’ll do a little bit more than we would ordinarily do on the day before,” Fisher said.

    And then that’s it — time to play a Big Red squad that at 10-3 shares the best record in the NFL despite losing two of its last three contests.

    “Familiar opponent that’s playing well,” Fisher said. “They’re a good football team. Drew (Stanton)’s playing well. They went down and had a rough day in Atlanta and rough one at Seattle, which everybody does.”

    Those were road losses on the last two Sundays of November. But the Cardinals rebounded Sunday at home, squeaking past Kansas City 17-14 to give them 10 victories for the second consecutive season.

    “They’re playing well at home,” Fisher said. “That was a big win for them (Sunday).”

    The Cardinals are 7-0 at home this season but only 3-3 on the road. So the short week is even tougher for them, because they’ve got to prepare quickly and then travel.

    Fisher is 1-1 in Thursday night games since being hired as Rams coach in 2012, with both previous Thursday nighters played in St. Louis. The Rams defeated Arizona 17-3 on Oct. 4, 2012 following a home game the previous Sunday against Seattle.

    Last season, the Rams were embarrassed 35-11 by San Francisco in another early-season Thursday night contest played Sept. 26. The Rams were coming off a road loss to Dallas before that one.

    Fisher said he’s never played a Thursday night game so late in a season, even dating back to his days with Tennessee. “You know, almost mid-December,” he said.

    The 6-7 Rams are hoping to post their fourth consecutive victory at the Dome, and their third victory in a row overall after posting back-to-back shutout wins against Washington and Oakland.

    “We can’t get complacent because this offense we’re going against is powerful,” Laurinaitis said. “Coach (Bruce) Arians is a good football coach, so we’ve gotta be ready.”

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    c1ram wrote:
    Hill is pretty decent at QB. Problem is he’s backed up Stafford and everyone forgot his effectiveness at SF (once playing under another defensive HC – Singletary).

    I am not sure how effective he was with SF. In four years he started a total of 16 games for them. The most in any one year was 2008 when he started 8 games. Hill’s best year was 2010 with Detroit when he started 10 games, threw for 2,686 yards and threw for 16 TDs. Hill is a career backup quarterback. Nothing more.

    In an interesting side note, Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller on Sirus NFL radio this morning said that Hill was a bad practice quarterback. They said that a team cannot have a bad quarterback even though he plays well on game day because it makes it very difficult for the OC to game plan. I had not heard this before but Pat Kirwan is the football commentator that I respect the most.

    “Shaun Hill will be fine. When I was in SF, I underestimated his ability. As time went on, he demonstrated what a winner he is.”- Mike Martz

    http://theramshuddle.com/topic/mike-martz-on-shaun-hill/

    And Kirwan has never watched Hill practice so he is speaking abstractions–he has no idea if Hill is so poor at that that he throws off gameplanning. I say that watching Hill play, he is better in this offense than a “backup.” He’s playing better than several current starters. Sometimes a guy is in the right place at the right time, and defies expectations and exceeds what he has done in the past.

    BTW in Detroit, Hill had no running game and the defense was bottom 12-level mediocre.

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    Ten Takeaways from Sunday’s 24-0 Win Over Redskins

    http://www.101sports.com/2014/12/08/ten-takeaways-sundays-24-0-win-redskins/

    Randy Karraker

    The Rams finally won a second consecutive game on Sunday in Washington, becoming only the fifteenth team since the merger to turn in back-to-back shutouts in a 24-0 whitewash of the Washington Redskins. Now the Rams have a chance to get to .500 on Thursday when they host Arizona, despite numerous setbacks during this 2014 season. With that, 10 takeaways from a winning Sunday in Landover, Maryland…
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    Gregg Williams’ defense has shut out opponents for two weeks straight.

    1) On some levels, it’s amazing what the defense has done. When you think about the fact that the Rams set a record for the fewest sacks through five games (with one), it is remarkable that they are now tied for seventh in the NFL with 35 sacks. With 34 sacks in their last eight games, the Rams pace over their last half-season is 68. The 1984 Bears have the all-time record with 72 sacks.

    The Rams back-to-back shutouts are also historic, as they became the fifteenth team since the merger to record shutouts in consecutive games. Jeff Fisher’s 2000 Titans turned that trick…as did the two best defenses of the last 45 years, the 1985 Bears and the 2000 Ravens. Notably the two teams to record THREE straight shutouts are the 1970 St. Louis Cardinals and the 1976 Pittsburgh Steelers. This defense appears to have turned the corner toward living up to its hype.

    On the turnover front, the Rams have fifteen takeaways in their last seven games, after recording just seven in their first six contests.

    2) The quarterback again exhibited strong game management. Shaun Hill once again handled the game exceptionally well. With this defense, the key is to not turn the ball over. Sure enough, Hill was 16-22 for 213 yards, two touchdowns and no interceptions. Since re-entering the lineup four games ago, Hill has thrown just two interceptions, not coincidentally in his only loss at San Diego. Hill is showing what a QB that doesn’t throw interceptions can do while the rest of the team lives up to what Jeff Fisher wants. If they run the ball and play defense, it’s just a matter of winning the turnover battle. If the Rams win that, they win the game.

    3) The Rams were able to overcome a bad day by the kicker. Whatever happened to Greg Zuerlein as he missed an extra point and two field goals wide right was troubling. The Rams were able to overcome it, and Fisher was able to pass it off and express his confidence in Zuerlein after the game, but you sure wonder what happens when the Rams get into a big game. At this point in his career, he hasn’t had to kick in a game that had major implications for the Rams. Hopefully he’ll be able to work through some of his inconsistency before the Rams reach that point of regularly playing big, meaningful games.

    4) Jared Cook is holding on to the ball. After leading NFL tight ends in drops last season with eight, Cook has only three this season. On Sunday, he was targeted five times and caught four passes, including two for touchdowns. Cook is evolving into the weapon the Rams thought they were getting when they gave him a five year, $35 million contract before the 2013 season. Using him down the seam like Hill did for Cook’s first touchdown was the ideal use of the big guy, who leads the team in receptions with 41.
    Rams utility man Tavon Austin

    Tavon Austin has three touchdowns in the last four games.

    5) They’ve finally figured out how to use Tavon. Finally, in the last three games, the Rams have gotten away from running Austin into the line, between the tackles. It seemed logical to utilize him on the perimeter with jet sweeps and smoke screens, but that didn’t happen much in the first half of the season. His use in the offense appears to be affecting Austin’s confidence as a punt returner, too. From the day he was drafted, Austin has had the ability to be a game changing weapon. But the Rams had some problems figuring out how to deploy him. In the last four games, Austin has three touchdowns and has utilized his speed to set the Rams up in good field position numerous other times.

    6) The offensive line still presents protection issues. Hill was sacked four times and was under siege for much of the afternoon. The Rams have allowed 39 sacks this season, and just six teams have allowed more. Certainly, there have been issues with the quarterback hanging onto the ball too long, and not all sacks are the fault of the offensive line.

    But against Washington, there were too many instances in which Hill didn’t have time to make a play. Greg Robinson is still learning, sure. But at right tackle, Joe Barksdale appears to have trouble with 3-4 outside linebackers, and Davin Joseph and Scott Wells aren’t as stout as the best linemen in the game. They need to be a little bit more rugged for this offensive line to reach the level of Baltimore, Cincinnati and Philadelphia.
    7) The Rams had to have Johnny Hekker throw, and he was great at it. When the Rams signed punter Hekker to a six year contract extension on Friday, the headline of their release read “PUNTERS GET PAID LIKE PEOPLE, TOO-Rams sign NFL’s completion percentage leader to six-year extension.” So of course they had to use him as a passer right away. Hekker’s pass to Cory Harkey for a two point conversion in the third quarter was perfect. He has completed all three of his pass attempts this season (with Sunday’s being on a two point conversion) and has a perfect 158.3 career passer rating. Hekker is a great part of the team, and signing him was a smart move on the part of the franchise.
    johnny hekker

    Hekker is three for three in pass attempts this season.

    8) Jeff Fisher has really coached this team up. Fisher hasn’t used being the youngest team in the league as an excuse for its inconsistency, and I don’t think it IS an excuse. That being said, this team is playing much better as the season unfolds. Clearly, they are being coached at a high level. They remind me of the 1986 Buccaneers, who won five of their last six to finish 6-10, then started out 5-0 the next year on their way to the playoffs. Or the 2002 Panthers, who won four of their last five to get to 7-9, then began the next year 5-0, and went 11-5 and to the Super Bowl. That’s the sort of trajectory I see for the Rams down the stretch and next year.

    9) The Rams can get to .500 despite a decimated roster. The Rams can get to the .500 mark on Thursday with Arizona in town. This despite losing quarterback Sam Bradford, left tackle Jake Long, and top receiver Brian Quick. If the Rams are ever able to stay healthy, they have a chance be a scary proposition in the NFC West and in the NFC overall in years to come.

    10) For fans of the draft, the Rams have messed up your choice. There are five teams in the NFL with just two wins. If the draft were held today, St. Louis would hold, at best, the twelfth selection. And with as hot as the defense is, you kind of figure they’ll have more than the six wins they currently have. The thing to think about is the first .500 season here since 2006, and worry about the draft after this season is over.

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    from off the net

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    Tackle For Loss in a season by a DT since 1998 according to Pro Football Reference:

    6

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    Rams the team no one wants to play

    By BARRY WILNER

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/rams-team-no-one-wants-play-202437292–nfl.html

    The end of the NFL season can be like the climax of a horror film. Many postseason contenders look at their December schedule, see an opponent and say: ”Not Them!”

    That team to avoid this year is St. Louis.

    Sure, the Rams (6-7) have a minuscule chance to still make the playoffs, even though they’d probably run away with the NFC South. Naturally, making the playoffs should still be their goal, despite the long odds.

    But the reality is that the Rams are making it very uncomfortable for anyone they line up against. And in two of the next three weeks, they will line up against the Cardinals and Seahawks, the teams vying for the NFC West title – and potentially home-field advantage throughout the conference playoffs.

    St. Louis comes off consecutive shutouts. Yes, the Rams blanked Oakland and Washington, and these are not quite the John Madden Raiders or Joe Gibbs Redskins.

    But the defense has become, to use a once-familiar adjective for the franchise, fearsome. The previous time the Rams shut out two straight opponents was 1945. Not even their Deacon Jones-led Fearsome Foursome managed that feat.

    ”1945? We’re about to shut out three!” defensive tackle Michael Brockers said. ”When’s the last time we shut out three?”

    Never.

    But as Arizona comes calling on Thursday night – that would be banged-up Arizona now without its top running back, Andre Ellington – who’s to say the Rams won’t make history?

    ”I am really excited for the guys. Back-to-back shutouts are pretty impressive. I’ve been told it hasn’t happened since the ’40s in our organization,” said coach Jeff Fisher, who also should be excited for himself and his staff.

    Fisher’s nearly three decades of NFL coaching have been highlighted by several rebuilding projects. He’s in Year 3 with the Rams, and things looked bleak early in the schedule.

    Indeed, there were critics who believed Fisher was on the hot seat when St. Louis was 1-4.

    The truth is, he hasn’t had his full roster for nearly his entire tenure in St. Loo. Fisher still doesn’t know who will be his quarterback going forward in the league’s best division.

    What he does know, and what the rest of the league is recognizing, is that the former defensive back with the great Chicago Bears of the 1980s has a defense to avoid.

    ”It has a lot to do with the health and familiarity of the guys,” Fisher said after Sunday’s win at Washington. ”Guys are maturing and we are getting a lot of positive plays out of a lot of guys. The secondary is playing well and they are challenging people. When you are getting sacks and takeaways and you aren’t giving away the ball on offense, you have a chance to win a lot of games.”

    The Cardinals and Seahawks are very aware of that. They also might shudder when they hear Fisher add: ”I look at this saying, ‘We can play better.’ ”

    On defense, that’s difficult to imagine. They had seven sacks among six players against the Redskins, and tend to get pressure from everyone in the rotation, led, of course, by Robert Quinn.

    After a horrendous start, with no sacks in his first five games, he has 10 1-2. The fourth-year defensive end, along with fellow DE Chris Long, tackles Brockers and rookie Aaron Donald, and linebacker James Laurinaitis, form the youthful foundation of a formidable unit.

    That unit is getting the hang of intense coordinator Gregg Williams’ schemes, making it almost a match for the other strong defenses in the division. It might already be better than injury-damaged San Francisco’s D.

    Fisher’s teams always have had standout running games, and he’s searched for the right ball carriers since Steven Jackson left in 2013. It appears they have the answer in big-play rookie Tre Mason.

    It all might add up to only a .500 season or worse this year for the Rams. But it makes them Public Enemy No. 1 for the Cardinals and Seahawks, division rivals with big aspirations that Fisher’s ”guys” just might deflate.

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    Notable stat: Taking out return TDs from points against, Rams defense is ranked No. 2 in NFL with 222. Seattle at 221 only team better

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    (If this doesn’t work, feel free to delete the post).

    Got it. Just directly put the URL right in the post.

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    First, I don’t think anyone makes that trade.

    Second, I like Bradford + Hill + new qb to be named later over Eli.

    I would rather have 2 guys who know the system (Bradford & Hill) than one possibly descending qb who doesn’t.

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