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znModeratorI guess I could have but I post gifs on the board all of the time. There out there for anybody to gather.
Okay, but…it would be wrong of people copying and re-posting your gifs to not credit you.
When it comes to posters, always credit a guy’s work.
That’s just net etiquette.
You not caring personally if you are credited when re-posted is not the same as it being okay if everyone just copies without crediting.
Just a courtesy thing.
Otherwise, you could be taken as claiming YOU did that work.
Fair enough?
znModeratorRams Vs. Broncos: Shane’s Select Seven
Shane Gray
http://www.insidestl.com/insideSTLc…5401/Rams-Vs-Broncos-Shanes-Select-Seven.aspx
While the St. Louis Rams finalized a daunting three game road trip last week and will return to home action this weekend for the first time in a month, the Denver Broncos remain road warriors as they conclude their own three game road trek with a matchup at the dome.
The Broncos stand alone atop the AFC West with a 7-2 season record. The Rams, on the other hand, sit in the solitude of the NFC West’s cellar with a 3-6 mark.
Help From Hill
After posting strong ratings of 98 or above in four of his first five starts, quarterback Austin Davis came back to earth in generating 75.4, 44.6 and 62.6 ratings in his last three outings.
With Davis struggling of late, Rams Head Coach Jeff Fisher felt it was prudent to reevaluate the quarterback position and, in doing so, decided it was time to lean on veteran Shaun Hill, 34.
“We looked at things Monday night and I had lengthy discussions with the offensive staff and just felt that the best thing to do, at this point moving forward, was to lean on the experienced quarterback,” Fisher explained. “I told the team today in front of Austin (Davis) how much I appreciated Austin and his work ethic and his poise, his dedication and the tireless effort that he put in to prepare himself to play. He’s much better now than he was when he started, but made the decision to go ahead and play with Shaun (Hill).”
“We’re moving forward with an experienced quarterback that for all intensive purposes lost his job because of injury,” Fisher continued. “You all understand why we went that way because of the production that we got earlier out of Austin. Again, I don’t want to present anything that appears to be cloudy, but this is in my opinion and the offensive staff’s opinion, what’s best for this football team right now.”
According to Offensive Coordinator Brian Schottenheimer, the decision to demote Davis was most influenced by his recent propensity for turnovers. In his first five starts, he threw a total of three interceptions. However, in just his last three games, Davis has racked up five picks.
“Obviously, we went back and looked at things and Austin (Davis) has played really well for the most part,” Scottenheimer said Wednesday. “I think the big thing for us was the turnovers. It’s hard to win in this league when you’re turning the football over.”
While Davis has handled his return to the backup role in the classy manner that one would expect of the Southern Mississippi product, Hill is understandably excited to step back into the lineup after a 10-week hiatus.
“Obviously there’s some excitement that kicks in and things like that,” Hill admitted. “Now it’s kind of back to business as usual. I’m just 1/11th on offense. You go out and you prepare the best you can for Sunday.”
While Hill is happy to be back on the field, many wonder how much rust he will need to shake off after a two-and-a-half month layoff from live action on the gridiron.
Schottenheimer, however, does not seem overly concerned about that and feels Hill will be ready.
“He looked really good out here,” Schottenheimer said of Hill’s practice outings this week. “He’s been preparing. He’s a pro. He’s been in this role before. We were teasing a little bit that he looked a little out of shape and maybe had too many snacks over the last couple weeks, but he’s looked really pretty good and done a nice job. The ball’s coming out of his hand well. He’s making good, clean decisions. I don’t see the rust.”
In 27 career starts, Hill has compiled a 13-14 career record. He and the Rams hope he reaches the .500 mark Sunday in St. Louis.
The St. Louis Secondary
The extremely green St. Louis secondary has struggled against the pass for much of the season while also dealing with injuries to the likes of Trumaine Johnson, Janoris Jenkins and LeMarcus Joyner. The stats bear out the difficulties they have had in dealing with opposing air attacks, with the Rams giving up the highest completion percentage in the league (69.6) and the fourth highest passer rating (102.6).
While the St. Louis defensive backfield is the youngest in the NFL overall, Fisher credits his youthful group of safeties with helping to hold things down while dealing with the aforementioned injuries to several of the defense’s cornerbacks.
“I think T.J. (McDonald) is playing the safety position right now as good as any safety in the league,” Fisher asserted. “The last couple weeks I think that his play and body of work speaks for itself. He’s making plays. He’s all over the field. He’s going to continue to do that. We got production out of Mark (Barron) last week in a package. Rod’s (Rodney McLeod) been playing very well. These guys have been holding the corners together because we’ve been rolling the young corners. Obviously, now that (CB Trumaine Johnson) Tru’s back and (CB Janoris Jenkins) Jenks is back, (CB E.J. Gaines) E.J.’s going to get some work inside because (CB) Lamarcus (Joyner) looks doubtful for this week. Those guys (at safety) have pretty much been the glue in the secondary.”
This week against future first ball Hall of Fame QB Peyton Manning, that glue and this group is going to face perhaps its stiffest test of the season. Entering this game, Denver is second in points per game, third in offensive yardage per contest, second in passer rating, third in yards per pass attempted and fifth-best on third downs.
Measuring Manning
Coaches have used almost every adjective and cliche imaginable in attempting to desribe the dynamic and other-wordly production of 13-time Pro Bowler and seven-time All-Pro Manning over his illustrious career.
During a mid-week question and answer session with reporters, Fisher compared Manning to playing against a computer. Yes, a computer.
“I’ve said this before, it’s like playing a computer,” Fisher said. “That’s what he is. He runs that offense. He’s going to put them in the best possible position. He’s nearly impossible to fool and is hard to get down. If you rush more than four, the balls coming out and he’s not going to take the hit. That’s just how he is. He puts that offense in the best possible position every snap. If the run’s not there, then he’s going to pick it up and he’s going to change and he’s going to put the ball down the field. He’s prepared. He’s prepared week after week, year after year.”
Fisher went on to explain that he feels that Manning’s career is just now reaching its pinnacle state.
“There’s no doubt, Peyton’s playing his best football right now,” Fisher continued. “Faced him many, many times. He’s playing his best football. It’s amazing the things he’s doing with the football. The cast that they have surrounded him with is outstanding. It really tests your defense. It requires patience. You have to run the football and get their punter on the field. I’m trying to simplify things for you, but you run it on offense and your goal is to get their punter on the field. Then you have a chance.”
In looking at the numbers, it is tough to argue strongly against Fisher’s notion, what with Manning having 29 touchdowns as compared to just seven interceptions to this point in the campaign. His 112 rating this fall is the third-best of any in his career and his QBR is his second best ever.
According to Denver Head Coach John Fox, it it his preparation and adaptability that sets him apart from almost all other NFL signal callers.
“I just think the way he prepares himself, whether it’s physically or whether it’s mentally,” Fox stated. “He has a ‘raise all boats’ type of approach. It’s been huge for our offense. I think what he’s accomplished kind of speaks for itself. Coming off a year of not playing football, stepping into a new organization after being with one team for so long and the same teammates for so long. His ability to adjust and change and do it in a new place is pretty remarkable in my estimation.”
Obviously, Fisher has a long history of facing Manning after coaching against him at least twice per year while with the Titans in the AFC South. With that considered, Fisher readily realizes the difficulties his defense will face this week against the future first ballot Hall of Famer.
“It’s a tremendous challenge,” Fisher said. “One of the biggest challenges I’ve been associated with a staff is defending him and his offense.”
All that said, Fisher maintains he has high expectations for Defensive Coordinator Gregg Williams’ unit.
“We’ve had some success (against Manning),” Fisher said. “And we’re expecting to again. That’s the way you go into it.”
Considering the Clock
Sometimes, the keys to success in a football game are so simple they get overlooked by the masses. In facing Manning and the Broncos bold offensive arsenal, the most basic approach is the best: keep the football out of his hands as much as humanly possible.
Schottenheimer explained why this is important on Thursday.
“Every time that Peyton’s (Manning) on the bench that certainly is important, and their offense is on the bench,” explained Schottenheiemer. “Certainly have played him a lot of times. The times we’ve played well against him, going back to the days with the Jets in division playoff games and stuff like that, you win the time of possession battle. You stay on the field.”
“Again, part of that is getting into third down and manageable, converting third downs and sometimes avoiding third downs with explosive plays,” Schottenheimer continued. “It’s a rhythm thing. Again, I think the big thing for us this week because of time of possession is going to be running the football and throwing completions.”
Against a dynamite Denver defense, though, winning the time of possession battle may be easier said than done.
Denver’s Defense
Even though it’s the Broncos boisterous offense that gets most of the credit throughout Colorado and the broader pro football world, the defense has managed to become a top-tier unit while flying primarily under-the-radar.
On the year, the Denver D has been the league’s best in allowing just 3.2 yards per garry and 67 rushing yards per game. The longest run they have given up all season is a 25 yarder. Facing such a strong ground defense is highly problematic to the St. Louis offense as they need to run the ball effectively to use clock and keep the Broncos’ prolific offense off of the turf.
In addition to their dominance in run defense, Denver has the fifth fewest defensive penalties, ranks seventh in interceptions, seventh-best on third downs, tenth in sacks, ninth best (or lowest) passer rating allowed, tenth best (or lowest) passing completion percentage against and fourteenth in passing yards per game relinquished even while leading big in many of their contests.
“They’re awfully good, yeah,” Fisher said. “What happens typically when you have an offense that’s so potent and making so many big plays and has a scoring average per game that’s so high. The opposing offenses are playing catch-up. Those yards…you don’t want to call them garbage yards, but the defense is going to soften a little bit, give up some plays to win the game.
That happens to an outstanding defense. They are very difficult to run against. Both the edge rushers are outstanding and they get inside push. They’ve done a great job rebuilding their secondary, which was obviously a focus. I think they’ve got a great group of linebackers. We’re going to have to play very well.”
As good as the Denver defense has been, former All-Pro linebacker Von Miller feels they are only going to continue to improve.
“I feel like we still haven’t got to playing the type of football that we know we’re capable of playing,” Miller said. “I feel like we’re getting better and better every week. Our run defense is probably our identity right now. A good first- and second-down defense makes a good third-down defense. I think we’re just starting to get better, preparing for this stretch that we’ve got coming up.”
Dynamic Duo
It isn’t often that we find ourselves halfway through November and find one team touting two of the top 10 indivual sack artists.
In Denver, though, three-time Pro Bowl linebacker Von Miller has nine sacks while seven-time Pro Bowl defensive end DeMarcus Ware has eight—good for sixth and tenth in the NFL, respectively.
The duo doesn’t spend its time competing or trying to top the other in production, though, but instead works hard to help each other be the best they can be.
We’ve got a healthy work-minded relationship,” Miller said in a conference call with Rams reporters Wednesday. “Every day he (Ware) pushes me. I go out there and push him. It’s all healthy and it’s helping our team. I enjoy DeMarcus. I love coming to work every single day, being around him and watching the way he prepares and I think it’s helped me with my game as well.”
Schottenheimer is certainly well aware of the problems the carnivorous combo will present to his offense.
“They create a lot of problems and they play really hard,” Schottenheimer suggested. “It’s a little bit of a benefit obviously, playing them at home, not having to go into the noise. The guy that’s really jumped out just because they move him around quite a little bit is Von (Miller). He’s just really explosive, great spin moves, but we certainly respect them both and they’re really, really good players. Nothing surprising there. You’ve got to do things to keep them off balanced and we’ll certainly try to do that, but it will be a long day if we can’t control those guys.”
“In most of the passing situations he’ll (Miller) be on our right going against (RT) Joe (Barksdale). DeMarcus (Ware) will be on the left. Again, two elite pass rushers, not only are they great rushers, they have great technique and they play extremely hard. They don’t give up and a lot of the sacks they get are second effort plays.”
Obviously, the St. Louis pass protection better be on its collective “A” game come noon Sunday. If not, it will likely be a long day for Hill and the Rams air attack.
Home Sweet Home
After a three-game stretch away from home, St. Louis returns to the dome on Sunday for some home cooking. While away, the Rams were competitive, but won just one of those three contests outside of the Gateway City.
This week, Fisher and the Rams are excited to be playing back under the mighty shadow of the Gateway Arch.
“It’s been an eventful three weeks,” Fisher said. “This young team’s learned how to travel, but you can’t beat playing at home.”
This week, however, a relatively nearby Denver club comes to town with a 7-2 record.
That, along with the pressing stadium issue, the current 3-6 record and a decade-long run of futility may make the dome feel more like a neutral-crowd atmosphere.
Either way, the Rams will have a lot more fans pulling for them this week at home than they have in any of the games they have played in roughly a month.
That alone should be helpful to this still young Rams roster. It just may not be quite as helpful as it would be under more ideal conditions.
November 15, 2014 at 11:20 am in reply to: Does anyone here believe we can beat Denver on Sunday? #11866
znModeratorJust a quick historical note.
The Williams D has been up against Manning a few times in the last few years. This kind of info is provisional of course because there were different personnel each time.
Tenn. in 2013. Wms had a hand in that D, according to reporters. Titans lost to Denver 28-51.
N.O. in 2009. Saints beat Manning Colts in the superbowl, 31-17.
Washington in 2006. Colts win 36-22.
znModeratorThis is good stuff.
Keep an eye out for the “in gifs” threads, they’re always good.
November 15, 2014 at 10:40 am in reply to: I said it once and I'll say it again (L.A. thread) #11863
znModeratorI added “LA thread” to the title so it’s just clear. We tend to have only one LA thread per page, so the title change will let those who want to discuss/comment on this issue know where it is.
znModeratorKnowing what you know after a season
and a half — would you draft Tavon
at the no.8 spot again?Yes? No? Maybe?
Dunno?I doubt if i would. The experiment
has been disappointing so far.Maybe he’ll come on a bit in year
three like Quick did. Maybe not.I’m not happy about the way BS
uses him, but thats a separate subject.w
vWell…disappointing?
Too soon for me to say.
Here’s one example of why IMO it’s too soon to say:
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http://www.101sports.com/2014/11/12/three-plays-defined-rams-loss-cardinals/
With 7:31 left on the clock, the Rams face a first-and-10 from their own 25-yard line. They come out in an off-set I with receivers Tavon Austin and Kenny Britt lined up to the left of the formation, and Chris Givens as the lone receiver to the right.
Austin comes in motion toward the line of scrimmage and, at the snap, runs a crossing pattern that results in him being wide open as Patrick Peterson (who was in man-to-man coverage on Givens) runs into safety Rashad Johnson, while Givens takes his route inside the numbers. But instead of an easy completion to Austin, Davis looks off Britt (who was double-covered on a deep route) and throws a horrendous pass that Peterson easily intercepts near midfield.
There are three telling factors about this play. One, Davis has trouble seeing the field because if he could, he would have seen that Austin was wide open. Two, Davis doesn’t have the arm strength to complete the deep out because if he did, he may have still been able to get the pass over Peterson and to Givens for a big completion. Three, the Rams’ offense is struggling so much right now that even when things break their way (i.e. Peterson taking out his own teammate in coverage), they still can’t seize the moment.
znModeratorRams notes: After three on the road, team welcomes return to the Dome
• By Joe Lyons
After three eventful weeks on the road, the Rams return to the Edward Jones Dome to take on the Denver Broncos in their Salute to Service game at noon Sunday.
“This young team has learned how to travel, but you can’t beat playing at home,’’ Rams coach Jeff Fisher said.
In recent weeks, the Rams fell 34-7 to the Chiefs in Kansas City, pulled out a 13-10 road victory over San Francisco and dropped a 31-14 decision in Arizona to the Cardinals. Next up is last year’s Super Bowl runner-up, Denver, which is 7-2 and led by five-time league MVP Peyton Manning.
“People referred to (our schedule) as the gauntlet,’’ said Fisher, who has decided to go with veteran Shaun Hill at quarterback Sunday. “You know every week’s a challenge (and) this week’s obviously one of the biggest of the year from a matchup standpoint for us.’’
When asked about Manning’s special qualities, Fisher mentioned the veteran quarterback’s “tremendous respect for everyone associated with the game.’’
Fisher continued: “When Sam (Bradford) went down, I got a text from Peyton, making sure that I told Sam he was thinking about him, wished him luck. That’s the kind of person he is.’’
While the Rams (3-6) return home, Sunday will mark the third straight road game for the Broncos, who lost 43-21 at New England on Nov. 2 before rallying to blow out the Raiders 41-17 last Sunday.
“I think playing on the road is always taxing,’’ Denver coach John Fox said. “It’s eight (home) and eight (road); we know that much and how they clump them is up to the schedule makers. We were aware of it and it’ll be another challenge (Sunday).’’
INJURY REPORT
Cornerback Marcus Roberson, who suffered an ankle injury in the Rams’ road victory over San Francisco two weeks ago, has been ruled out of Sunday’s game.
Others sitting out Friday’s workout were linebacker Daren Bates (groin), defensive back Lamarcus Joyner (groin), wide receiver Damian Williams (hamstring) and defensive tackle Alex Carrington (quadriceps). Carrington is listed as questionable for Sunday while the rest are doubtful. Linebacker Will Herring (foot) was limited in practice Friday and is probable.
Also listed probable are starting middle linebacker James Laurinaitis (foot) and starting defensive end William Hayes (fibula). Both were full participants in Friday’s workout.
With starting running back Ronnie Hillman out with a foot injury, the Broncos’ Montee Ball could see some action Sunday in front of the hometown fans. Ball, who starred at Timberland High in Wentzville, has missed the last five games with a groin injury but has practiced this week and is listed as probable.
Hillman leads the Broncos with 378 rushing yards and has scored four touchdowns. Last week, second-year back C.J. Anderson enjoyed a career day when he rushed for 90 yards and added 73 receiving yards. It was his thrilling 51-yard catch and run for a touchdown just before halftime that helped the Broncos erase a 10-6 deficit and go on to a rout of the Raiders.
Ball, Denver’s second-round draft pick in 2013, ran for 559 yards with four touchdowns as a rookie. This season, he started three of the first four games, rushing for 172 yards and a touchdown with nine receptions for 62 yards.
Tight end Virgil Green (knee) did not practice and is doubtful for Sunday. The rest of the players on the Denver injury report — tackle Ryan Clady (groin), tackle Paul Cornick (shoulder), guard Orlando Franklin (knee), safety Quinton Carter (knee), linebacker Steven Johnson (ankle) and running back Juwan Thompson (knee) — practiced Friday and are probable.
BIG FINE FOR KENDRICKS
In the third quarter of last Sunday’s loss in Arizona, Rams tight end Lance Kendricks was called for an illegal blindside block on Cardinals safety Tony Jefferson that helped Jared Cook take an Austin Davis pass 41 yards to the Arizona 4-yard line.
The 15-yard call pushed the ball back to the Arizona 35. The Rams, who led 14-10 at the time, were unable to add any points as the Cardinals rallied with 21 fourth-quarter points for the win.
On Friday, the NFL hit Kendricks with a fine of $22,050, the minimum amount for an illegal blindside hit. The fine is a reflection of the NFL’s emphasis on player safety.
RAM-BLINGS
The Rams have nominated Fisher for the fourth annual Salute to Service award presented by USAA, the NFL’s official Military Appreciation Sponsor. The winner will be announced during the NFL Honors award show the night before the Super Bowl. Last year’s winner was Baltimore head coach John Harbaugh.
• Hall of Fame defensive back Aeneas Williams will receive his Hall of Fame Ring of Excellence on Sunday in Arizona when the Cardinals take on the Detroit Lions. Williams was drafted by the Cardinals in the third round of the 1991 draft but played the final four seasons of his standout career with the Rams.
• After Friday’s practice, Fisher confirmed that defensive end Chris Long would not be activated. Long suffered an ankle injury that required surgery in the season opener and has been on the injured reserve/designated to return list.
“He’s only practiced two days,’’ the coach said.
znModeratorThe last campaign ad ever
by Mark Fiorew
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/11/07/1342409/-Cartoon-The-last-campaign-ad-ever?detail=email#
Even before the big loss for the Democrats, we had all lost. The money pouring into politics from Super PACs and shady political “nonprofit” organizations was stealing Democracy from you and me. Financial contributions from individual voters is being eclipsed by the big bucks pouring in from far fewer big-money sources.
As the most expensive midterm election in history, dark money from shadowy sources is also climbing. When nearly a billion dollars poured in from pop-up 501(c)4s and Super PACs, the advertising and attacks got meaner and more repellant. No wonder people feel like checking out from the whole process. (Don’t take my word for it, ask any random person on the street what they think of politics.)
With fewer voters and more money pumped into the election, it’s not too surprising that that some dinosaur politicians are resurgent. Why not take it to the extreme and just get rid of the voters thanks to the Last Campaign Ad Ever? Seems like something the Brothers Koch could get behind! Take a deeper dive into the links behind this cartoon here and be sure to like, comment and share!
znModeratorThanks for the update and hope all works out well.
In fact be sure to follow up!
I got that you were being mostly tongue in cheek btw.
But yeah…jesuit prep school…I got stories too….
November 14, 2014 at 5:23 pm in reply to: Rams, who is out who is recovering, including Laurinaitis & Long #11835
znModeratorINJURY REPORT
Cornerback Marcus Roberson, who suffered an ankle injury in the Rams’ road victory over San Francisco two weeks ago, has been ruled out of Sunday’s game.
Others sitting out Friday’s workout were linebacker Daren Bates (groin), defensive back Lamarcus Joyner (groin), wide receiver Damian Williams (hamstring) and defensive tackle Alex Carrington (quadriceps). Carrington is listed as questionable for Sunday while the rest are doubtful. Linebacker Will Herring (foot) was limited in practice Friday and is probable.
Also listed probable are starting middle linebacker James Laurinaitis (foot) and starting defensive end William Hayes (fibula). Both were full participants in Friday’s workout.
With starting running back Ronnie Hillman out with a foot injury, the Broncos’ Montee Ball could see some action Sunday in front of the hometown fans. Ball, who starred at Timberland High in Wentzville, has missed the last five games with a groin injury but has practiced this week and is listed probable for Sunday.
Hillman leads the Broncos with 378 rushing yards and has scored four touchdowns. Last week, second-year back C.J. Anderson enjoyed a career day when he rushed for 90 yards and added 73 receiving yards. It was his thrilling 51-yard catch and run for a touchdown late in the first half that helped the Broncos erase a 10-6 deficit and go on to a 41-17 rout of the Raiders in Oakland.
Ball, the team’s second-round draft pick in 2013, ran for 559 yards with four touchdowns as a rookie. This season, he started three of the first four games, rushing for 172 yards and a touchdown with nine receptions for 62 yards.
Tight end Virgil Green (knee) did not practice and is doubtful for Sunday. The rest of the players on the Denver injury report _ tackle Ryan Clady (groin), tackle Paul Cornick (shoulder), guard Orlando Franklin (knee), safety Quinton Carter (knee), linebacker Steven Johnson (ankle) and running back Juwan Thompson (knee) _ practiced on Friday and are probable for Sunday.
znModeratorRams report: Team works outdoors on Friday, ready for Broncos’ challenge
• By Joe Lyons
After two days indoors, the Rams wrapped up their practice schedule with an outdoor workout at Rams Park on Friday.
The Rams (3-6) will take on the Denver Broncos (7-2) Sunday at noon at the Edward Jones Dome.
“It’s clearly better for your legs to get on the grass. Three days indoors can take its toll over a period of time,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher explained. “We had a great practice. It wasn’t too windy, so we could throw the ball.
“They’re excited, like they are every Friday. We had a good week of practice and we’re excited to play. Understand that we have a big challenge on our hands, but they go into every game thinking we have a chance to win it.”
znModeratorBrian Schottenheimer points to turnovers leading to QB change
By Nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — If it wasn’t already clear why the St. Louis Rams decided to go back to veteran Shaun Hill at quarterback this week, offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer offered further explanation this week.
Simply put, Austin Davis’ propensity for turnovers, not just the sheer volume but the way in which they seemed to turn into immediate points was the driving force behind the decision.
“Austin has played really well for the most part,” Schottenheimer said. “I think the big thing for us was the turnovers. It’s hard to win in this league when you’re turning the football over. We brought Shaun here to be the backup. Austin kind of kept the job because he was playing so well, but now that Austin’s struggling a little bit we just feel like Shaun’s a guy that’s played. Obviously, has the experience. He’s been in this situation before and will go out there do some things and give us just some energy and things like that.”
More than energy, the Rams hope that Hill can cut down on the type of crushing mistakes that have dotted Davis’ time as the starter. In his eight starts and nine games, Davis threw four interceptions and coughed up two fumbles that were returned for touchdowns. Five of those six returns for touchdown have come in the fourth quarter.
Considering the Rams’ knack for starting fast and finishing slow, they can’t afford those types of costly giveaways with the game on the line. With Hill back in the mix, the Rams won’t ask him to take over games and throw it all over the field. Instead, they’ll hope that Hill can be the steady veteran hand they signed him to be and hoped he would be when he initially replaced Sam Bradford.
After a couple of days of watching Hill get back to work in practice, Schottenheimer said he doesn’t expect there to be much rust to knock off.
“He looked really good out here,” Schottenheimer said. “He’s been preparing. He’s a pro. He’s been in this role before. We were teasing a little bit that he looked a little out of shape. Maybe had too many snacks over the last couple weeks, but he’s looked really pretty good, done a nice job. Ball’s coming out of his hand well. Making good, clean decisions. I don’t see the rust.”
znModeratorfrom off the net
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CoachO
Hill actually is quite mobile, he just doesn’t run around when its not necessary. I saw someone mention he isn’t much taller than Davis. Well, he IS 6’3, so I would say that is a dramatic difference, and simply from an experience standpoint, figures not to be as rattled when facing the heavy doses of blitzing opponents have been deploying against Davis. Being “mobile” does not mean running around. For all his athleticism (scrambling “ability”), Davis ran himself into more sacks than he would have got by simply staying in the pocket and getting the ball out.
Hill is not “the answer” to all the QB woes, but he does provide a change of pace, and will be less likely to make the crucial turnovers that has plagued Davis. And when there are plays to be made (when receivers get behind the secondary), I have little doubt Hill will manage to get them the ball. He will be more accurate, (and I am not talking just about completion percentage).
He will get the ball out on time, and know where to go with it before the pressure gets to him. He will take hits along the way, but I will be surprised if the sacks against doesn’t go down.
znModerator2 from off the net
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laram
The “Big Nickel” or Buffalo as Spags called it sure looks different with TJ or Barron playing the hybrid lb than it did when Dahl was playing it.
I use to hate this alignment with Dahl because he couldn’t hold up and the Rams would get gashed in the run game.
Both Barron and TJ are stout in the box.
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BonifayRam
after last weeks game against the Cards sure makes me feel real good about this trade. Barron is 6-2 213 & McDonald is closer to 6-3 @ about 220 pounds himself, sure will make our opponents pass catchers roaming around our secondary some serious concerns. With our starting CB’s off the injury list finally & Gaines sliding into the Nickel & Barron, McLeod & McDonald on the field at the same time that should be a new look for our Rams & for Manning.
znModeratorPrediction: Broncos roll past Rams
By Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/13590/prediction-broncos-roll-past-rams
Predicting what the St. Louis Rams are going to do from week to week is a difficult exercise, especially when they’re heavy underdogs. Everything seemed to be working against them two weeks ago when they went to San Francisco and they somehow managed to win.
This week, the Denver Broncos come to town expected to cruise past the Rams. The us-against-the-world mentality will be in place once again in the Rams’ locker room. But it’s hard to see how they’ll be able to spring another surprise considering the matchups against the Broncos.
The Rams pass rush has been much improved with 16 sacks over the past four weeks, tied for most in the league (and it will be 17 when the league credits Robert Quinn for a correction from the Kansas City game). But Peyton Manning is probably the best ever at recognizing where pressure is coming from and getting the ball out quick.
Manning is averaging 2.29 seconds before passing, which is second-fastest in the league, and his 67.7 percent completion rate is fourth. The Rams, meanwhile, are last in the league in completion percentage allowed at 69.6 percent. That combination will prove deadly for the Rams because it will neutralize the pass rush and allow Manning and the Broncos offense to continue putting up the points. And scoring points isn’t something the Rams do well, either, averaging 16.6 offensive points per game, 29th in the NFL.
Add it all up and you have all the makings of a blowout.
My prediction: Broncos 31, Rams 10
znModeratorPFF Preview: Broncos @ Rams
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/11/14/pff-preview-broncos-rams-week-11/
Coming off a blowout win against the Oakland Raiders, the 7-2 Denver Broncos will travel to St. Louis to take on Jeff Fisher’s 3-6 Rams.
As displayed many times this season, Peyton Manning’s receiving weapons are incredibly dangerous and difficult to defend. Denver’s wideouts are a very important cog in the team’s offensive machine. Demaryius Thomas ranks third among wide receivers with a +11.6 overall grade, and leads the NFL in yards after the catch (459 yards). Thomas is tops at his position in Yards per Route Run as well, posting a stellar 2.96 average. Fellow receiver Emmanuel Sanders has been equally effective in 2014: his quarterbacks have a 126.4 rating when targeting him in 2014, while his catch rate on Deep Passes (20 yards or more) is a solid 55.6, which is third at his position.
The Rams will have a tough time defending Denver’s receivers, but their secondary may be up to the task. Rookie cornerback E.J. Gaines has a strong +4.4 coverage grade and is tied for third at his position with seven passes defended. Gaines is also allowing only 1.01 Yards per Coverage Snap, which ranks him inside the Top 15 cornerbacks for that stat. Free safety Rodney McLeod has also graded positively in coverage this season (+2.4) and has only allowed 44 total yards after the catch. St. Louis’ secondary will certainly be targeted often seeing how much Manning trusts his receivers, so how they hold up to this test will be a telling indicator of the game’s ultimate outcome.
Here are three more notable numbers for each side:
Denver Broncos
Von Miller – leads all outside linebackers with a +23.9 pass rush grade, 32 quarterback hurries and 50 total pressures.
C.J. Anderson – has forced 14 missed tackles in only 38 touches this season, earning him an elusive rating of 100.7 (third among running backs with at least 30 touches).
Chris Harris Jr. – ranks first among cornerbacks with 0.52 Yards per Coverage Snap, while opposing quarterbacks have earned a 44.0 rating when throwing at him.
St. Louis Rams
Aaron Donald – the rookie leads all defensive tackles with a +13.8 run defense grade and is second with a 12.3 Run Stop Percentage.
Jared Cook – ranks at eighth among tight ends with 1.81 Yards per Route Run.
William Hayes – despite the attention that teammate Robert Quinn receives, Hayes ranks inside the Top 10 4-3 defensive ends in Pass Rush Productivity (10.8) and Run Stops (13).
znModeratorThe STL Post-Dispatch’s Jim Thomas explains to CineSport’s Noah Coslov the keys to trying to limit Broncos QB Peyton Manning’s production & the reasons behind the Rams starting QB Shaun Hill.
http://cinesport.stltoday.com/saint-louis-sports/thomas-why-start-hill-over-davis/
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November 14, 2014 at 1:36 am in reply to: Rams, who is out who is recovering, including Laurinaitis & Long #11791
znModeratorChris Long is no longer a ‘ghost’
By Jim Thomas
When you’re sidelined by injury for a lengthy period of time, it’s almost like you disappear in an NFL locker room.
Rams defensive end Chris Long, who played in 97 consecutive games to start his career, never experienced that feeling until he suffered a foot injury in the season opener against Minnesota. Surgery was necessary to repair two torn tendons in his left foot, and then the long rehab process began.
“I’m telling you, it’s weird when you’re walking around without a helmet and a jersey for seven, eight weeks,” Long said. “You feel like a ghost sometimes.”
It has actually been nine-plus weeks since the injury. But Long’s time as a ghost are over. He returned to practice Wednesday for the first time since the injury. It’s very doubtful he plays this week against Denver, but he could be starting a new consecutive games streak after that.
“There’s a lot you don’t take into account when you’re coming off a surgery and you’ve got to rehab and strengthen,” Long said. “So it was great to get back out there with my teammates. It was just really exciting to have a jersey on. I felt like I was part of the team again.”
Long’s participation in practices this week has been limited to individual periods, when the defensive linemen do drill work on their own. The next step, of course, is “team” — or 11-on-11 work — followed by returning to game action.
Long was hesitant to pinpoint exactly when he might return to game action from the injured reserve/designated for return list. He has a maximum practice window of three weeks before the team must decide whether to put him on the 53-man roster or keep him on IR for the rest of the season.
On Wednesday, coach Jeff Fisher expressed confidence that Long would return prior to the completion of the three weeks. So most likely, his first game back will either be the Nov. 23 game at San Diego or the Nov. 30 home contest against Oakland.
“You never know, but I can’t make predictions on how I’m gonna feel one day to the next,” Long said. “It’s a process, and I’m just heavy into the rehab still, while I’m trying to get out there on the practice field. It just felt good to be out there with my teammates.”
The feeling was mutual.
“It’s great to see our brother back out there on the field,” defensive tackle Kendall Langford said. “He’s looking good. He’s feeling good. So we’re hoping for the best.”
Being sidelined for more than two months wasn’t easy, so much so Long nearly drove himself nuts during his down time.
“You know, I was really worried about that,” he said. “And there’ve been some tough times. But the toughest is knowing you can’t help your teammates, and I just want to help us win.
“Even if I can’t help my team win on the field, I like to be able to help off the field and just be available to my teammates and my coaches, because it’s important to me.”
But as the weeks rolled by, one indication that Long was growing stir crazy came on Twitter. Namely his always interesting tweets on @JOEL9ONE got even more “out there” than usual.
For example, he has power rankings of flightless birds, months of the year, and sharks.
By the way, the bull shark was No. 1, and he teased his rankings on months of the year by tweeting, in part: ”There are some surprises.”
He established playoff seedings for athletes with flattop haircuts, and had random tweets such as:
• “Ever forget what year it is? Me neither.”
• ”Listening to ‘Seminole Wind’ in the bat cave with my bulldogs.”
“I’m an ‘out there’ guy,” Long tried to explain. “You’re bored. I’m not as tired as I usually am from work so I’ve got a lot of energy I’ve gotta get out.”
Did he ever have a moment of self-awareness, where he realized his tweets were getting out of hand?
“Yeah, when I started power-ranking like the months of the year, and stuff,” he said. “You just start losing your mind on there. My Instagram posts got weirder and weirder. I did a lot of photo-shopping and stuff like that.
“I spent a lot of time in the training room, so you just sit there and you tweet, and it can get monotonous so you get a lot of stupid ideas in your head.”
But as Long gets closer and closer to playing, things will return to “normal” soon on Twitter. He should join his teammates on the field on game day some time this month. It might just be enough to push November to the top of the power rankings.
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Fisher: Peyton Manning never betterBy Jeff Legwold | ESPN.com
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. — As an NFL head coach, Jeff Fisher has faced Peyton Manning 19 times, including one playoff game, and in all that preparation, he said Wednesday that the veteran quarterback looks even better this time around.
Manning and the Denver Broncos visit Fisher’s St. Louis Rams on Sunday. It will be the first time Fisher has faced Manning since the quarterback signed with the Broncos in 2012, and Fisher returned to the sideline that same season.
“With all due respect to the Colts and that system, the system is completely different now,” Fisher said on a conference call. “Everybody is moving around, as compared to Marvin [Harrison] playing on one side, Reggie [Wayne] on the other.
“This offense is completely different. They’ve done an outstanding job of putting outstanding players around him. I think this is the best cast of playmakers he’s ever had, and obviously the results are showing that.”
The Broncos have five players with at least 20 catches, with Demaryius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders leading the way with 65 and 62, respectively. Tight end Julius Thomas leads the NFL with 12 touchdown catches.
In his tenure as Houston Oilers/Tennessee Titans coach, Fisher’s teams faced Manning twice a season beginning in 2002. Manning is 13-6 as a starter in those games. (Two games in that span were end-of-the-regular-season affairs when Indianapolis’ playoff spot was assured and Manning attempted seven and 17 passes, respectively.)
Fisher, whose playing and coaching roots are on defense, has tried all forms of coverage-rush combinations through the years. His staff in St. Louis also includes defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, assistant head coach Dave McGinnis and secondary coach Chuck Cecil, who were all also on Fisher’s staff at times with the Titans.
“I can’t remember a time when he was playing any better,” Fisher said. “I think he’s playing his best ball right now. He’s got great people around him, he’s really got a good feel, he’s not going to take a sack, he’s not going to make a bad decision. It’s very, very difficult to defend.”
Manning leads the NFL with 29 touchdown passes for the 7-2 Broncos and is on pace to become the first player in NFL history to throw for 50 touchdowns in back-to-back seasons. He is third in passing yards (2,912) and has been sacked fewer times (nine) than any other quarterback who has started all of his team’s games.
“There may be a time when you can try to catch a double here or there, but it’s not going to fool Peyton; he knows exactly where to go with the ball,” Fisher said. “When you watch this offense and you watch it close, there is usually two, oftentimes three receivers that are open as an option. Peyton has options.
“You oftentimes wonder why he goes there instead of over here. Well, when he goes there, he makes the right decision, so they make a play. It is very difficult to blanket this offense and take things away and make him hold [the ball].”
November 13, 2014 at 10:47 pm in reply to: Does anyone here believe we can beat Denver on Sunday? #11785
znModeratorfrom an article:
Fisher’s teams faced Manning twice a season beginning in 2002. Manning is 13-6 as a starter in those games.
znModeratorAre the Rams a Quarterback Away From Being a Quality Team?
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/11/13/nfl-week-11-settle-this-greg-bedard-st-louis-rams-quarterback/
By Greg A. Bedard
SettleThis: Are Rams really a quarterback away from being a quality team? Heard it several times, but what does the film say? — Lucas Bruton, @LukeBrute
We first need to define “quality team.” I’ll say that means a winning team, which they haven’t been since 2003, although they’ve been close several times. The short answer, Lucas, is yes, because I like their defense and some of their offensive pieces. But I don’t think getting consistent quarterback play means they’ll suddenly rise to the top of the NFC West.
Consistent quality play from the quarterback position is the Rams’ biggest missing puzzle piece. How do they get that? They can’t just keep the status quo. Like I said in March about the Bengals, “If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results, then the Bengals are certifiable when it comes to quarterback Andy Dalton.” If the Rams put all their eggs in the Sam Bradford basket again, then they’re crazy and everyone should be fired. I still think Bradford can be a good pro, but the Rams have to throw multiple options at the quarterback position and sort it out later. The new rookie contracts mandate that, and it’s borderline criminal that the Rams haven’t invested in a quarterback—at least someone to develop—since taking Bradford in 2010 (2014 sixth-rounder Garrett Gilbert was cut from the practice squad a few weeks ago). The starter since Bradford went on IR, Austin Davis has certainly made some plays, but he is not an NFL starting quarterback unless he develops significantly; he does not see the field well enough. Shaun Hill is a solid backup.
After two ACL surgeries, Bradford can be brought back but not at his $16.6 million salary cap number. He should return under a reduced, incentive-laden deal. If he balks at that, the Rams should just move on. Even if Bradford returns the team still needs a franchise quarterback for the future, and they need to draft one high. If both Bradford and the draft prospect develop, one can be traded down the line. That’s a problem the Rams need to get themselves into.
But there’s still other work to be done. The interior of the offensive line needs to be revamped, specifically left guard Davin Joseph and center Scott Wells. The Rams will have to make a decision on tackle Jake Long; moving on from him would save $8 million against the cap. The Rams also need to find a legit No. 1 receiver and a consistent weapon at tight end (Jared Cook has played better this year but hasn’t maximized his physical talent). I like Tre Mason at running back; Tavon Austin has been used better this season, and the Rams have solid receivers.
Defensively, coordinator Gregg Williams could really use a more dynamic middle linebacker than James Laurinaitis. I don’t care about tackle numbers; he’s average against the run and poor against the pass. I’m sure Laurinaitis will stick around since his cap number drops from $9.65 million to $4.275 million and you can certainly win with him, but the Rams can do better. Linedbacker Jo-Lonn Dunbar needs to be replaced. Other than that, I like the pieces the Rams have on defense and Williams knows how to make them work.
So, Lucas, I believe the Rams have most of the important pieces needed and are just lacking a competent quarterback who can make them a quality, winning team. But taking that next step is easier said than done. They just can’t wait for Bradford to get healthy again.
znModeratorThanks for posting that, Grits. My respects to the man.
znModeratorfrom off the net
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RamzFanz
I went back and watched Hill play and, even as a Hill fan from TC I have to say, he’s better than I remembered.
-People who say he isn’t mobile need to go watch him. With a pass rush in his face most of the game he only took 1 sack and that was because a blind side DE came up from behind him and knocked the ball free which he fell on and saved. This is the play where I believe he was injured as his shoulder was jammed back on the hit and he threw only one more time. Other than that, he moved in the pocket and delivered time after time. He scrambled out of the pocket and extended plays a couple of times but, with his play, that’s all he needed to. After he left the game, there were four more sacks which I believe is a testament to his ability to avoid pressure.
-If my assessment is correct, he threw one bad pass and that was the interception immediately after the play where he was probably injured. I forgot how many sweet throws he made that were called back by penalty, dropped passes, or where the player didn’t go past the first down marker. Of the other incompletes, one was an 8 man blitz that collapsed the line and he overthrew the receiver deep by 5 yards but the defender drew a flag. It looked to me like either the receiver couldn’t get to his spot or Hill was throwing away the ball without drawing the intentional grounding. However, it could have just been that he overthrew the receiver from the pressure. The second was a pass to no one deep that appeared to be a missed route by the receiver. The third was the interception that was a circus catch interception. Some say he was throwing the ball away but either way, it’s on him.
-Hill hit his hot route every time he needed to and there was a receiver open. He didn’t miss once. Every hot route pass that wasn’t complete was the receiver dropping a pass directly to them.
Now that the penalties have subsided and the receivers are catching better, I could see Hill having a monster game. Dude has an ARM. His short passes have zing when needed and touch where needed and were dead on right where the receiver needed the ball to be.
He threw with anticipation and hit receivers in stride. He went through his reads and kept his eyes downfield.
His long bombs were deep and accurate other than the ones I mentioned.
What impressed me most was his presence. Completely calm. Moving in the pocket. Setting his feet and delivering. Defeating pressure with dump off passes or scrambling.
I think the Rams, other than their O line, are far better than they have appeared and Hill is going to be able to exploit that. If you go back and remove the penalties and dropped passes he would have been dominating the Vikings. Now throw in the Rams’ D that is finally living up to their talent and I can’t help but believe this is going to be a hell of a game and that the rest of the season, at the very least, is going to be exciting with more wins than not.
znModeratorAmong qualifying quarterbacks, only Colin Kaepernick had a higher sack rate than Davis’ 9.3 percent this season.
It’s higher than 9.3%. PRF lists it as 9.3%, which is doubtless where he gets the number from, but it’s actually 29 sacks on 284 attempts, which is 10.2%.
Off the top of my head, it looks like 10.2% is the worst sack percentage of any starting Rams qb since they kept the numbers on this. Bradford was at 9.2% in 2011, but that was 2011 and all that implies. Even in the OL Injury Apocalypse of 2007, Bulger was at 8.3%. Kyle Boller in the Third OL Injury Apocalypse of 2009 was at 8.8%.
10.2% is worse than Clemens behind more or less the same OL, and Clemens had issues handling pressure too.
znModerator• The Rams offensive line has done a poor job in pass protection, ranking 30th among the 32 teams in pass-blocking efficiency by Pro Football Focus. Rams quarterbacks have been pressured 113 times in nine games, the league’s fifth-highest total. According to PFF, Davis has been under pass-rush pressure on nearly 43 percent of his dropbacks this season. That’s tied for the highest percentage of pass-rush heat endured by regular NFL quarterbacks this year.
No one will confuse the Rams offensive live with the Hogs or anything, but I think some of that poor pass blocking efficiency can be laid at Davis’ feet. Defensive coordinators know Davis struggles against the blitz so they blitz him a lot. That leads to a lot of QB pressures. If Davis could recognize a blitz was coming and check out of the play called and/or find his hot receiver, then DC’s would be forced to dial back the blitzing a little bit. Then you would have fewer QB pressures and an o-line that’s ranked better than 30th in this regard.
Well if that works, Hill should see a decline in sacks, or more to the point, a decline in sack percentage.
Should take 4 games to tell?
znModeratorBernie: Hill move the right way to go
Bernie Miklasz
Rams coach Jeff Fisher made the right move in calling veteran righthander Shaun Hill out of the bullpen to relieve the frazzled young starter, Austin Davis.
Fisher had to stop the bleeding. Davis has been overrun and overwhelmed as of late, and the low-scoring Rams can’t afford to have a quarterback who serves as a slot machine for opposing defenses. You know: Pull the arm, hear the cha-ching of a turnover and collect your winnings.
With the Rams defense cranking it up and tormenting quarterbacks in a manner befitting a unit coordinated by the überaggressive Gregg Williams, it’s imperative for the Rams to have an efficient (if not exciting) offense.
Davis provided an early boost, enlivening the inherent dullness with energy and big-play jolts. But defenses adjusted, the pass protection unraveled, and the quarterback’s play deteriorated. The mishaps included six defensive touchdowns on interception and fumble returns.
That’s damaging for any offense, but it’s a downright disaster for an offense that frequently malfunctions on a good day.
The turnover count is usually the tipping point that determines the outcome of NFL games. And this is all you need to know: In their three wins the Rams gave the ball away three times, total. And in their six losses, the offense coughed up 13 turnovers.
The Rams aren’t going to win any point-scoring shootouts, but at minimum must avoid shooting themselves in the football.
In theory, Hill has a better chance to cut back on the number of donations made to the opposing defense. But really now … how do we know?
Hill hasn’t experienced a lot of live action over the last five seasons, starting one regular-season game since the end of the 2010 campaign. That start was made in this season’s opening game against Minnesota, and Hill threw an avoidable and costly interception late in the first half. He had an awful 47.3 passer rating before departing with a strained quad.
Let’s face it: The identity of the starting quarterback has become increasingly irrelevant at Rams Park. Since the new regime of Fisher and GM Les Snead took charge of the program in 2012, the Rams have dragged near the bottom of the NFL in offensive points scored from scrimmage. (That doesn’t include points scored by the St. Louis defense or special teams on returns.)
The Rams ranked 28th in offensive points in 2012, averaging 16.3 a game. That improved slightly in 2013, when the Rams ranked 22nd at 19 points a game from their offense. But they’ve regressed this season, ranking 30th with an average of 16.5 points.
This offense hasn’t moved forward with Brian Schottenheimer as the offensive coordinator. That isn’t an opinion. It’s a fact.
Sam Bradford’s record as a starter under Fisher is 10-12-1. Kellen Clemens was 4-5 as the injury replacement for Bradford last season. And Davis was 3-5 as a starter after taking over for Hill. In terms of bottom-line record and point totals, the difference among the three quarterbacks is marginal.
That’s why I’m reluctant to write Davis off. He demonstrated an ability to play in this league. He may not be what this team needs or wants for a full-time starter. I’m not disputing that.
But the 2014 Rams have a shaky offensive line and a below-average running game, and haven’t established a receiver who can consistently wreck a defense.
I’m not sure why we’d expect Davis, after eight NFL starts, to overcome the disorder that surrounds him.
The issues are more significant than the game-to-game performances of Austin Davis.
The Rams rank 30th in the NFL in pass-protection efficiency by the analysts at Pro Football Focus. Rams quarterbacks have been pressured 113 times in nine games, the league’s fifth-highest total.
Davis has been under pass-rush pressure on nearly 43 percent of his dropbacks this season – tied for the highest percentage of pass-rush heat endured by a regular NFL quarterback.
That represents a big jump – in the wrong direction – for the O-line. According to PFF, Bradford was under pressure 33 percent of the time in 2012, and Bradford and Clemens faced pressure on 36 percent of their dropbacks in 2013.
Because of the faulty pass protection, Davis was at more of a disadvantage than Bradford or Clemens in past seasons. I’m not saying Davis handled the pass rush as well as he should have – obviously he didn’t – but a team can’t realistically expect positive results when the quarterback is setting up under extreme duress.
Hill, 34, isn’t as mobile as Davis. So how will Hill hold up physically when swarmed by the pass rush? Hill should be able to do a better job of getting the ball out on time, and to the right receiver. But even if Hill can stay on the field without getting maimed, and even if he plays reasonably well, he doesn’t project as the starter for 2015.
The problem isn’t that Fisher must decide between Hill and Davis.
The real problem is that the choice came down to Hill or Davis.
The Rams failed to adequately address the QB position after losing Bradford to knee surgery after seven games in 2013. Snead and Fisher disregarded Bradford’s extensive injury history, which dates back to his final season of college ball at Oklahoma. And sure enough, the same knee blew up again during the third preseason game this year.
There was also Bradford’s contract status; going into the 2014 cycle he had two years remaining on his exorbitant six-year rookie deal. One way or another, the Rams soon would face a tough decision regarding Bradford’s future.
Instead of spending an early-round draft choice to select a QB who could be developed to succeed Bradford, the Rams waited until the sixth round to draft SMU’s Garrett Gilbert. A wasted pick. With extra draft choices in hand, the Rams passed on the opportunity to find a future passer.
The Rams have Hill lined up to face Denver on Sunday at The Edward Jones Dome.
Problem is, the Rams don’t know who will line up at quarterback in 2015.
Unless the franchise wants to invest another year and $15 million in the rehabbing Bradford, the Rams will be starting over at the position.
And the seemingly endless rebuilding project will continue.
znModeratorThat’s an interesting interview IMO if you listen to it. A lot of it is what you expect, and some of it is him not really being on the traditional jock script. There are some interesting honest confessions in there. Example: “what did you learn?” “It is difficult to stay confident every week when you’re body’s tired and it [ie starting] is not fresh anymore.”
He got worn down. In fact, probably? Overwhelmed.
I don’t know what his future is–he could re-emerge. I really don;t think his arm is below average, I think it’s just average…I think his meltdown was mostly a mental thing. Yes, tough defenses, and film on him, and so on…but I think he may…might…just might?…have it in him to come back at a later time as a mentally better prepared vet. I dunno about starter, but the early Davis was a much different critter, and maybe he can make himself a more mentally ready version of that.
znModeratorIs it an elite bakery
or only a complimentary Bakery?w
vWell that doesn’t matter to me.
What matters is, does it have real “biscuits,” if you know what I mean.
znModeratorI believe they will draft a QB high and keep Bradford, and have them compete for a job in ’15. If Bradford is healthy, he will win the job and keep it unless/until he goes down for a third time. And if he stays healthy, this team could win the division in ’15, and if not there will still be hope for the future until the newness and shininess of the next best thing wears off.
I actually believe all that. But they still need a #2. Hill comes back? Davis sticks around? (Davis melted down but he started out pretty well, so, maybe he can be a 2 or 3 game back-up type? Better than Clemens and Jamie Martin….)
I don’t think they will swing for the fences and try and get a 1st round qb. Or I hope they don’t. That way lies Gabbert, Ponder, and madness.
To me, the better bet is to keep working on the OL and defense and assume that any qb they have will be a play-action guy, even Bradford.
znModeratorSome follow-up. Saguaro on watching Davis in that game.
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Saguaro
I got caught up in the game and fell into just watching the ball most of the time on offense. My impression, however, is that the Cardinals’ game plan was to cover the short stuff, not allow Davis any quick, easy throws, knowing that when the pressure started to come, he would pull his eyes down, and/or make a wild throw. They weren’t worried about getting burned deep.
Time after time, watching Davis, I was begging him to just throw the ball already! Even if you have to throw it away, just get rid of it, don’t start flailing around in the pocket! One reason that becomes more evident maybe in the stadium than on tv, is that a pass thrown away is a good play for the defense, but ho-hum. A sack gets that whole place just charged up and buzzing, players and fans.
I haven’t looked at the game on rewind yet. I suspect that at times there were receivers open that Davis just didn’t see.
On the other side of the coin, although overall I was happy with the defensive effort, one thing that bugged me was the passing lanes they left open. On Stanton’s one big drive, it just seemed to me that the pass rush sprawled out wide and left him big openings to see downfield. Would rather that they had kept in tighter and had Brockers with that height in his face.
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