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  • in reply to: New England … praise and blame #17231
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    So how come Bradford never did that? Hmmm?

    See, no competitive edge.

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    New England Patriots might go unscathed — and that’s deflating

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-deflategate-plaschke-20150123-column.html

    Bill Belichick played the rumpled dunce, wrinkled sweatshirt, rolled-up sleeves, the world’s most detailed football coach shrugging and sighing and professing to have no idea about footballs.

    “I had no knowledge of the various steps involved in the game balls,” he said.

    Tom Brady played the smiling fool, nifty ski cap, form-fitting sweats, slick and genial, one of the world’s greatest passers claiming he wasn’t always sure about the football he was passing.

    “I’m not squeezing the balls, that’s not part of my process,” he said.

    The two central figures in the New England Patriots football deflation scandal took two different approaches in separate news conferences Thursday, but the perception was the same.

    They both came across like street-corner cheats.

    Belichick was the old guy sitting at the card table with the shells. Brady was the young guy leaning against the wall with the dice. Their obliviousness was obviously orchestrated, yet they spun it in the cocksure manner of those who have done this before and know they will never get caught.

    And, of course, they’re right. The worst thing about the news that the Patriots allegedly deflated 11 of 12 footballs by two pounds per square inch during their AFC championship game against the Indianapolis Colts on Sunday — a clear violation of NFL rules — is that the league will let them get away with it.

    You really think a league that has shrugged off domestic violence will actually care about pigskin poisoning? Oh sure, the Patriots might be fined a few bucks after the Super Bowl and, yeah, an equipment guy will probably eventually take the fall as with the USC deflation scandal, but the almighty duo of Belichick and Brady will remain untouched.

    From the rule-breaking videotaping of opponents’ signals to unethical last-second substitution deceptions, the Patriots have created such a culture of subterfuge that before games, some opposing coaches put locks on their locker room doors. Yet with owner Robert Kraft protecting them by serving as a mentor to Commissioner Roger Goodell — why do you think Goodell amazingly destroyed the “Spygate” tapes? — Belichick and Brady will proudly march to Arizona next week to stare down Seattle and attempt to win their fourth Super Bowl championship together, equaling records for both coach and quarterback.

    Go, Seahawks.

    The deflated footballs, which were less than their minimum weight of 12.5 pounds per square inch and generally improve grip on cold and rainy days, were certainly not the reason the Patriots wiped out the Colts, 45-7. In fact, once the deflated footballs were discovered, they were replaced at halftime with the Patriots leading 17-7.

    The deflated footballs had little to do with that specific game, but they have everything to do with the rules. Even for just 30 scoreboard minutes, even with a dominant team that didn’t need the edge, the rules were broken and an advantage was taken. We have to wonder: How often have the Patriots been doing this, anyway? Just saying, but the Patriots running backs did not lose a single fumble this season, and their team was the second-best in the league in ball protection with just four fumbles lost.

    The weight of the football is governed by a rule, and how is breaking that rule any different from a baseball hitter’s using a corked bat or a pitcher’s throwing a ball covered in pine tar? Sammy Sosa of the Chicago Cubs was once suspended seven days for the bat, and the New York Yankees’ Michael Pineda was kicked out for 10 days for the pine tar. If a similar punishment were assessed in football, either Belichick or Brady would be forced to miss the Super Bowl. Yeah, and Janet Jackson is going to make a surprise appearance at the halftime show.

    Quarterbacks have been scrambling out of the woodwork this week to claim that everyone alters footballs. Critics of the rule have quickly observed that the NFL fines teams only $25,000 with potentially more discipline for breaking the rule. But it’s still a rule, and it was still broken by team that seems consistently to skirt the rules, and at what point does the NFL decide that fair play outweighs gross revenue?

    In his news conference, Belichick described in detail how he doctors the practice footballs to make them as difficult to handle as possible. But when it comes to the 12 footballs from Sunday’s game, he said he had no idea how they looked. Huh?

    “I can tell you that in my entire coaching career, I have never talked to any player [or] staff member about football air pressure,” he said, adding, “We play with what’s out there.”

    No wonder that even the circumspect former Dolphins coach Don Shula refers to Belichick as “Belicheat.”

    In his ensuing news conference, the detail-oriented Brady said he likes footballs at exactly the 12.5-PSI minimum, but then he said he never really notices their size. Really?

    “I get the snap, I drop back, I throw the ball,” he said. “I don’t sit there and squeeze it and try to determine that.”

    Meanwhile, on Dallas Sports Radio 1310, former Super Bowl champion quarterback Troy Aikman simply said, “For the balls to be deflated, that doesn’t happen unless the quarterback wants that to happen, I can assure you of that.”

    The overall assurances from Belichick and Brady on another dark day in the history of the New England Patriots were far different.

    Said Belichick: “I never touched a game ball. It’s not something that I have any familiarity with on that.”

    Said Brady: “I have no idea what happened.”

    There is no questioning the football abilities of the greatest coach-player combination in NFL history. But sadly, their legacy will be stained with their belief that they are bigger than the league, bigger than the sport, big enough to stretch their entitled culture far beyond its rules.

    Once again, when it comes to the integrity of the great Bill Belichick and Tom Brady, you can stick a pin in it.

    in reply to: Is this the year of the qb? Is Wilson a top 4 qb? #17219
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    Conversation about Wilson reminds me a bit
    of the conversations about Joe Montana over
    the years. Montana was surrounded by an allstar
    cast, and he didnt have the big arm,
    but he was clutch, and tough and smart, etc.
    Was he as pure a passer as Marino or Bert Jones
    or the stud-athletes? Nah.

    I wouldn’t put Wilson in Montana’s class…not even a little. Montana was a smooth, smart, heady qb quarter by quarter who could engineer a great passing game and did it early on WITHOUT Craig or Rice. Montana had already played on a superbowl team 2 seasons before they drafted Craig and 5 seasons before Rice. The 1981 SF offense is Montana, Ricky Patton, Clark, Solomon, and Earl Cooper at FB. He did it while SF was 9th in passing attempts and 19th in rushing yards. They too (in 81) had a top-ranked defense.

    Wilson is a gamer in an offense that does NOT depend on him to throw from the pocket 4 quarters. That makes him a perfect fit for an offense that takes advantage of his read-option skills while limiting his throws.

    The Rams have regularly matched up with Seattle because short of the occasional Ogletree screw-ups, they are set up to both limit Lynch and contain Wilson, making him a pocket passer. When that works…it works, though they haven’t had the qbs the last few games to take advantage (Clemens, Davis, Hill).

    Meanwhile the strategy of just containing Montana would never have worked like that. He was too quick-minded and savvy as a passing qb.

    Now people can argue that being clutch is tops, and that a read-option qb isn’t really to be judged the same as a more pure pocket passer (and compared to Wilson that’s what Montana was).

    So he belongs to a different category, and is perfect for Seattle’s situation.

    But my instinct is, put Luck on Seattle and they thrive, put Wilson on the Colts and they struggle.

    in reply to: Is this the year of the qb? Is Wilson a top 4 qb? #17197
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    Wilson complements his offense and defense, and has nowhere near the pressure to come through pass by pass those guys do.

    Doesn’t matter though. He played his part by being clutch in do it or die time. I have always counted clutch play highly in evaluating a qb.

    You know in 2012, when Softli was still on the air, he used to rave about Wilson around draft time. Just loved him.

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    We live in an instant gratification society now. With the media saturation that has become the norm, fans today think things should happen YESTERDAY or its not soon enough. But Jeff Fisher has been doing this long enough, and has built a reputation around the league, as being thorough.

    Just go back to the beginning of his tenure here, and see the quality of experienced and very well respected coaches he was able to bring here. Mike Wauffle is arguably the best d-line in football. Greg Williams, Chuck Cecil, Frank Bush, Ray Sherman, Paul Boudreau, Dave McGinnis, Rob Boras, John Fassel. Even Schottenheimer was considered a quality experienced coordinator.

    Not since the days of Dick Vermiel has the league seen this assembly of coaches on one staff.

    Fisher has instant credibility. I trust that when he makes his decision, it will not be a knee jerk type of thing. Does that mean he always “gets his man”? NO. But he will be comfortable with his choice. And as we saw with Walton, if its not the right fit, he will fix it.

    On Boras. Every day of training camp, the TE unit was the FIRST on the practice field. They went thru their stretching on their own, but Boras was never far away.

    He is “detail oriented”, he would work with each and every TE in the unit on the smallest details in blocking techniques, running routes, hand position, etc. Every day, they would work on the scripted plays to be run that day on the 11 on 11 drills. He would break down footwork, which shoulder to punch, hand height, and virtually every technique for each play. And he did with whether it was Jared Cook, Lance Kendricks, Corey Harkey right on down to Brad Smelley, one of the practice squad guys.

    He’s not a screamer like G. Williams, or even Boudreau. But the players respond to him, and he definitely gets his message across. IMO, they could do worse than Rob Boras.

    There is also Frank Cignetti, who is a very accomplished play caller. He served in the Offensive Coordinator role in various college stops in his career prior to coming to the Rams as the QB Coach. In many ways, he may be a more logical choice than Boras.

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    He always just seems to be giving
    yer basic conventional wizdom.

    Yeah 101 has done gone stale on us.

    Used to be, you would look forward to it. (Granted I liked Softli.)

    Now it’s “enh.”

    in reply to: Another Kidney Stone #17184
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    Sorry to hear that Mack.

    Keep us filled in.

    Kidney stones are not happy events.

    in reply to: Wagoner: Rams have options to create cap space #17181
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    Britt – Three Years, $15 Million
    Barksdale – Three Years, $9.1 Million
    Kendricks – Two Years, $4.6 Million

    Let’s say that avgs. out to 10.3 for 2015.

    Is that too hefty? Can they do that?

    Interesting thing to watch as it happens.

    in reply to: Grayson, Hundley, Petty, Carden etc. … the qbs this year #17154
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    Carden is my favorite, with Petty second.

    I want to stress again the four things I need to see from a QB to evaluate him fully.

    1). Play well while getting beat up and hit a lot.
    2). Throw intro tight windows/trust his receivers
    3). Comeback from a game changing mistake (pick 6 usually)
    4). Throw accurately with garbage around his feet and a collapsing pocket.

    Carden has done the best job of that. In fact, it’s not close. Petty comes in second.

    I am not sure how many comebacks each of these guys have, Petty had a big one. But Carden had 3 big ones if memory serves, and two where his INTs led to points. Kid is a leade3r, and he has the psychological makeup I want in a QB. I don’t doubt him, and I’d take him in round 2. Petty needs to show me he can make multiple reads, Carden has done that for me.

    Hundley is a career backup. A good one to have, but he will never be a starter because there is a way to beat him, and terms will find it pretty quickly. Grayson is decent, but again, I don’t know if he’s anything more than a backup.

    Petty needs a year, and a system that plays to his strengths.

    Bridge needs a QB coach and at LEAST a year on the bench. Pittsburgh?

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    Rams still searching for offensive coordinator

    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/15642/rams-still-searching-for-offensive-coordinator

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — With Adam Gase officially headed to the Chicago Bears to become their offensive coordinator, the St. Louis Rams are down one more possible candidate for their vacancy for the same position.

    The Rams never even got to interview Gase but, as we reported Tuesday night, if he had made it out of Chicago, things would have gotten serious with the Rams. Alas, Gase never made it out of Chicago.

    Which leaves the Rams still searching in an ever-thinning pool of candidates. To this point, they’ve also expressed interest in Green Bay quarterback coach Alex Van Pelt and Indianapolis special assistant Rob Chudzinski. But the Packers and Colts denied the Rams permission to interview either. Although Chudzinski’s contract with the Colts is up next week, Indianapolis could look to increase his role to keep him and, barring that, the Rams could have competition from San Francisco for his services.

    Among other known prospects, the Rams also missed out on Greg Roman and Kyle Shanahan, who took the coordinator jobs in Buffalo and Atlanta, respectively. So what’s left for the Rams?

    Well, there’s now only one known outside candidate remaining in the form of former Buffalo offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett. Hackett has spent time with the Rams in the past 24 hours. For those unfamiliar with Hackett, here’s a quick scouting report from ESPN Bills reporter Mike Rodak:

    “Hackett took some heat from fans and reporters the past two seasons for a Bills offense that was among the NFL’s worst. An energetic, young coach, Hackett began the 2013 season running an up-tempo, option-style system that he and Doug Marrone brought along from Syracuse. Slow development from EJ Manuel — hampered by multiple knee injuries his rookie season — forced Hackett to slow the pace and narrow the scope of his game plans by the end of his first season. Manuel never emerged this past season, leading to Kyle Orton taking over his job by Week 5. The carousel at quarterback — the Bills had five different starters between 2013 and 2014 — and a reliable defense led Hackett to be more conservative with the offense than he wanted. At best, he’s a bright offensive mind who was strapped by a brutal quarterback situation in Buffalo. At worst, he was in over his head with the Bills and might need more time as a position coach before he’s ready to return as a play caller.”

    There are those around the league who believe Hackett better fits the best case of that scenario, but it also leads to the question of whether he’d be inheriting a situation in St. Louis much better than the one he’s leaving in Buffalo. The Rams quarterback situation has no obvious solution aside from hoping for health from quarterback Sam Bradford and some major repairs are needed on the offensive line.

    Beyond Hackett, the Rams also still have in-house candidates like tight ends coach Rob Boras and quarterbacks coach Frank Cignetti. And given the secretive and deliberate approach Rams coach Jeff Fisher has taken to the whole process, it wouldn’t floor anyone if he had a surprise candidate or two up his sleeve

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    Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora)
    Former Bills OC Nathaniel Hackett interviewed for the Rams OC job yesterday. Rams have been considered Rob Chudzinski as well among others.

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    Nathaniel Hackett interviewing for Rams offensive coordinator on Thursday

    by Josh Alper

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co…g-for-rams-offensive-coordinator-on-thursday/

    The Rams got rebuffed in their attempt to interview Rob Chudzinski and Alex Van Pelt for their offensive coordinator vacancy, so they’ve moved on to a candidate not currently employed by another NFL club.

    Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that Nathaniel Hackett is interviewing for the job on Thursday. Hackett spent the last two years as the offensive coordinator with the Bills after going to Buffalo with Doug Marrone, who hired him in the same role at Syracuse University.

    There weren’t many raves for the Bills Offense over the last two years, which certainly had something to do with the team’s lack of a strong starting quarterback and may have had something to do with Marrone’s own offensive preferences.

    The Rams have Sam Bradford returning from a second torn ACL and have said they’d like to have him compete with someone else for the starting quarterback job this offseason, although Bradford will probably need to adjust his contract since he stands to make nearly $13 million after playing just seven games the last two years.

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    Boras is well-respected at Rams Park, particularly by Fisher, and probably would get the nod over Cignetti if the team stayed in-house to replace Brian Schottenheimer.

    The truth is, most of us don’t know much about the promotable position coaches in a coordinator search. Our eyes are always on the fired coordinators and fired head coaches. But the guys we covet among the recently fired coordinators were all once position coaches. Someone saw their value and made them coordinators. Is Boras a guy like that? A guy ready to take the next step? Sure it’s absolutely possible. The advantage with Boras is–same system on offense.

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    Search for offensive coordinator continues

    By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/search-for-offensive-coordinator-continues/article_1a17951e-4c45-5b94-82e7-2d1e40476c61.html

    MOBILE, ALA. • The Rams’ list of offensive coordinator candidates continues to dwindle. Former Denver coordinator Adam Gase decided to reunite with former Broncos head coach John Fox in Chicago, taking the same position Wednesday.

    Coach Jeff Fisher, who as usual is not attending the Senior Bowl, spoke on the phone with Gase on Tuesday night about the possibility of joining the Rams. Had the Chicago opportunity fallen through, Gase’s next stop on what was a series of job interviews probably would’ve been St. Louis.

    A day earlier, the Rams were denied permission by Green Bay to interview Packers quarterbacks coach Alex Van Pelt, and denied permission by the Colts to interview Rob Chudzinski, who is special assistant to the head coach in Indianapolis.

    Teams can block interview requests in every instance for coaches under contract except in the case of a head coach interview.

    Interestingly, Chudzinski’s contract expires at the end of next week — or just after the Super Bowl. After that point he can interview wherever he wants, so he could still be in play for the Rams.

    By denying permission to the Rams — and reportedly to San Francisco, which also is eyeing Chudzinski for its OC opening — the Colts may simply be engaged in a stalling strategy for a couple of weeks. Coordinator jobs are filling daily around the league as teams try to avoid being left empty-handed.

    Besides Chudzinski, former Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett remains on the Rams’ radar and it’s still possible he could be brought in for an interview according to league sources.

    And keep in mind, the Rams feel they have a pair of strong in-house candidates in tight ends coach Rob Boras and quarterbacks coach Frank Cignetti. Boras is well-respected at Rams Park, particularly by Fisher, and probably would get the nod over Cignetti if the team stayed in-house to replace Brian Schottenheimer.

    Cignetti interviewed earlier this week in Cleveland for the coordinators’ job that went to John DeFilippo on Wednesday.

    It’s always possible that Fisher is considering an unknown candidate or two as well.

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    senior Bowl week

    players who caught eye so far

    oline day 1 starters
    saw someone posted Rams were talking to Max Garcia…good, started a thread about him 2/3 weeks ago..great practice and a day one starter at center

    want a day one starter at rt? Haverstein and either Daryl Williams…..Haverstein has looked very good so far

    G Laken Thomlinson..only olineman strong enough to handle Shelton…doesn’t run well, struggles to hit players on the 2nd level but absolutely rules his turf inside the pocket…..also Tre Jackson looks to be a day one starter..surprised how well he has handled speed in 1v1 drills

    OT..Lael Collins as looked good and Clemmings as really struggled..Myers and Marpet look to be good developmental prospects…Day and Shepherd are nice players

    TE best Clive Warfold ..looks very good best later rd guy Boyle

    LB Stephone Anthony a 3 down at mlb..Luc as a 2 down thumper, Hauoli Kikaha, Lorenzo Mauldin

    FS …Damarious Randall ..elite cover skills for a fs…great fit for the rams

    WR great list….Justin Hardy, Devin Smith,Sammie Coates, Tyler Lockett, Antwan Goodley, Vince Mayle, Phillip Dorsett, Rannell Hall and Jamison Crowder ..outstanding group of wideouts

    RB Ameer Abdullah(even looked good blocking lbers) David Cobb, Jeremy Langford

    DT Danny Shelton(easily best player ), Carl Davis elite measureables and play

    DE Za’Darius Smith ..want a lde?

    CB none have looked great Imoan Claiborne has size and a nice burst..Quentin Rollins looks very raw..question his deep speed

    in reply to: Grayson, Hundley, Petty, Carden etc. … the qbs this year #17118
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    Senior Bowl week

    best qb? so far a 2 man race between Grayson and Mannon..Petty has struggled with the transition and Carden just looks bad..Grayson and Mannion just look like nfl starting qb’s..

    in reply to: Wagoner: Could Rams end up in mix for Adam Gase? answer: no #17097
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    Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
    The #Bears are hiring Adam Gase as their offensive coordinator, source said. It’s a 3-year deal.

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    I haven’t even read this yet. So, don’t kill the article poster. s

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    Gordon: Belichick’s critics are indulging in loser talk

    By Jeff Gordon

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/gordon-belichick-s-critics-are-indulging-in-loser-talk/article_e54562d0-6968-5160-94cc-b07ba962e6b5.html

    New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick seeks every possible advantage over his foes.

    This is who he is. This is what he does. Belichick doesn’t make a lot of friends while grinding out victories, but he seems OK with that.

    Earlier in the playoffs the Patriots duped the Baltimore Ravens with a formation ruse, creating mass confusion. Which players were eligible receivers and which weren’t?

    After the game, reporters raised the issue with Patriots quarterback Tom Brady. He dismissed the Ravens’ complaints with the figurative back of his hand.

    “Maybe those guys got to study the rule book and figure it out,” Brady sniffed. “We obviously knew what we were doing, and we made some pretty important plays … I don’t know what’s deceiving about that. They should figure it out.”

    Now we have a big hoo-ha over the (allegedly) deflated footballs the Patriots used on offense during the AFC championship game.

    The weight of the footballs hardly mattered against the Colts. The Patriots won 45-7. They dominated from start to finish.

    The tampering allegations seem irrelevant. The Patriots could have replaced regulation footballs with almost any inanimate object and kept rolling.

    Toaster ovens, clock radios, stuffed wolverines, grandma’s purse … it appeared almost anything would have worked for them against Indianapolis.

    They blocked. They tackled. They imposed their will. The Colts have no beef and neither does anybody else.

    The Patriots haven’t cheated their way to constant contention during Belichick’s reign. They stayed in the chase with brilliant coaching, tremendous quarterback play and a total franchise commitment to winning.

    But the Patriots do have a reputation for pulling shenanigans, most famously in the “Spygate” controversy in 2007. Team operatives videotaped the defensive signals by their opponents and got nabbed.

    The league’s decision to destroy the evidence gathered in that investigation smacked of a cover-up. What exactly was on those tapes? How damning was the evidence?

    Since fans didn’t get to find out, their imaginations ran wild.

    Rams fans will go to their graves believing the Patriots stole Super Bowl XXXVI because the team videotaped coach Mike Martz’s walk-through session at the end of the practice week.

    The Boston Herald reported that allegation in 2008, then walked it back. The Patriots denied the illicit taping and no hard evidence came to light.

    Still, former Rams great Marshall Faulk is among those who have wondered aloud about these allegations, other “Spygate” revelations, the subsequent NFL sanctions and the Patriots’ inability to win a Super Bowl since then.

    “The question is, how did they become a championship team?” Faulk asked WEEI radio this time last year. “Listen, I’m not going to be the only one to say this: Ever since they got fined and, ‘OK, we’re not doing that anymore,’ they’ve won how many Super Bowls?”

    Well, none yet, but it’s not like the Patriots went into the tank after absorbing that league wrist slap.

    Since “Spygate” became all the rage, the Patriots have posted a 99-28 regular-season record. They have won seven AFC East Division titles, eight playoff games and three AFC championships.

    Since that fateful Super Bowl XXXVI in New Orleans, the Patriots have only missed the playoffs twice. Such success in the parity-driven NFL is astounding.

    Just ask the Rams. They have only made the playoffs twice since that game, and one of those excursions came after an 8-8 season.

    Things turned bad for them in 2005 and stayed bad. While the Patriots kept winning, the Rams went 6-10, 8-8, 3-13. 2-14, 1-15, 7-9, 2-14, 7-8-1, 7-9 and 6-10 in consecutive seasons.

    That Super Bowl XXXVI loss seemed to break Martz as a head coach. He waited too long to make adjustments to New England’s aggressive pass coverage.

    His players made too many big mistakes. Their big comeback started too late. The loss crushed him.

    Martz began unraveling, as did the “Greatest Show on Turf.” He exited the Rams during the 2005 season and never got to run his own team again.

    (Perhaps Martz can revive his career in Cleveland if the Browns bring him on board as offensive coordinator. Imagine him working with quarterback Johnny Manziel. Mad Mike + Johnny Football = endless entertainment!)

    After Martz’s demise at Rams Park, Joe Vitt, Scott Linehan, Jim Haslett, Steve Spagnuolo and Jeff Fisher took their turns failing.

    Meanwhile the Patriots just kept winning. Folks can question the legitimacy of that sustained success, but that’s just loser talk.

    Belichick is the NFL’s best coach. He keeps winning while operating on his own terms.

    He dresses for games like he is headed to a Dumpster dive. His dour public countenance reinforces his cold-blooded manner.

    The cocksure Brady gives him the ultimate advantage. Other players come and go, assistant coaches come and go, personnel guys come and go, but Belichick just keeps winning.

    Now the hooded genius is headed back to the Super Bowl stage. He will stand in the media glare and glare right back.

    Somebody will ask about deflated footballs and cheating and integrity. Belichick will utter a non-answer or two.

    Then he will go right back to work, looking for the edge.

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    If they were both playing with deflated balls how did one team have an advantage?

    This doesn’t really answer your question. Just more info.

    Mark Brunell discusses the advantage of using a football that is underinflated and what he preferred to use when he played.

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:12203979

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    Love how McDonald, McLeod and Barron hit.

    Just wish they could cover a little (or a lot) better.

    Agreed.

    Wms got the most outta those guys that can be got.

    I think though that they need someone who is a step up from McCleod.

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    Give the Devil his due.

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    Yeah. Allow him to introduce himself.

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    Rams were lucky last time to get an experienced coordinator.

    There just aren’t that many in the market at any given time, cause, they aren’t there unless they get fired.

    But then, experienced coordinators once weren’t. Once, they were position coaches that got promoted into new jobs.

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    You ask me to keep it fun when I have people like 21Dog is known to make negative comments on anything I post. Including comments about an obviously qualified person such as Lee Steinberg who respected by many. Or did you not read 21Dog’s comments.
    Keeping it fun goes both ways.

    Grits

    Well, the negative comments we want to watch out for are about other posters.

    We all have to live with other posters making negative comments about players, coaches, writers, and public figures that we, as individuals, often like or respect. But people have a right to say those things. What we do in response is just disagree. So for example, “hey poster X, you say LS is a windbag, I say he is a respected public figure.” ‘

    I know it can be a fine line sometimes.

    BTW I hope I deleted the right post? (?) (As per your request).

    Overall btw I think the discussions are holding up when it comes to civility and mutual respect. And I should add here, Grits, that you make a lot of unique good contributions to the board, like the eulogies to Rams players who have passed on, among other things.

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    Laram – on Olson

    He did some very nice things taking over for Linny when he was here.

    He showed better patience and balance, and IMO THAT was one of the best Rams offenses in many years.

    Less error prone and more of what I wished the GSOE would have been.

    People love that offense for the sizzle, but I would take the 2006 offense if I wanted to win championships.

    Wish him well.

    You know, I agree with all of that. Jackson’s best games as a Ram, too.

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    Rams ready to ‘shop’ at Senior Bowl

    By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-ready-to-shop-at-senior-bowl/article_72a91c35-0b09-5fd4-bdf6-3e0ac155d7cc.html

    The Rams have done a fair amount of “shopping” at the Senior Bowl since general manager Les Snead and coach Jeff Fisher took over the program in 2012.

    Among the Senior Bowl players the team ended up drafting are defensive tackle Aaron Donald, safety T.J. McDonald, cornerback Janoris Jenkins, wide receiver Brian Quick and running back Isaiah Pead. Obviously, some have worked out better than others.

    “Never do you have a preference for a senior,” Snead said. “I think though, when you take a senior vs. a younger kid, you usually know that senior is probably gonna be more ready to play than the younger kid.

    “Now there’s a lot of young kids (underclassmen) coming out. We see the names every day. So you better be able to work it both ways.”

    But the approach in player development usually differs between the drafted senior as compared to the drafted underclassmen.

    “I’ve used this example many times in Aaron (Donald) and Greg (Robinson); Greg being a redshirt sophomore, Aaron being a four-year starter,” Snead said.

    In essence, Donald started twice as many college games as Robinson, and partly as a result of that extra college experience arrived in the NFL as a more polished product.

    “Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t take Greg,” Snead said. “It just means Greg’s gonna learn some of the things that Aaron learned in those (last two seasons in college) out here in the NFL. So you just have to have a different plan for success. Historically, I think seniors are more mentally mature and ready than the younger kids.”

    In the case of Senior Bowl alums Donald, Jenkins and McDonald, for example, all came into the NFL as day one starters. But early success obviously isn’t an absolute for seniors. It took Quick until his third NFL season to blossom into an opening-day starter.

    As the draft evaluation process hits high gear in Mobile, Ala., annual site of the Senior Bowl, the Rams already have their draft board trimmed to fewer than 500 prospects.

    It was set for the first time last summer and trimmed down and altered in December. There will be a re-set of sorts after this month’s college all-star games, and another after the NFL scouting combine in late February. And then one final one in the spring after the campus pro days and private workouts.

    Usually, the December board turns out to be the most accurate, Snead said, only half-joking.

    “Because — guess what? — that’s them playing football,” he said.

    In contrast, the combine and pro days and private workouts are all about stopwatches, agility drills and interviews. At least at the Senior Bowl, and the few other college all-star events, players are getting after each other in practice and playing a game at the end of the week.

    As the most prestigious of the all-star games in terms of getting better talent, the Senior Bowl is a valuable measuring stick.

    “They get to go compete against guys that are gonna be in the NFL,” Snead said. “So you get to go and see their competitiveness.”

    You see wide receivers work against press coverage, something that doesn’t happen much in college. Running backs working on blitz pickup and catching passes out of the backfield.

    And quarterbacks from spread offenses lining up under center and throwing into windows that are already tighter than what they saw most of the time in college.

    As the Fisher-Snead regime prepares for its fourth season in St. Louis, Snead said the Rams’ personnel department and coaching staff have a sense for what the Rams’ roster is and isn’t.

    “You’ve got a good feel now for who they are, what our strengths are, what our weaknesses are,” he said. “What players’ roles are. So it gets a little, probably, clearer to say, ‘Hey, we’ve got specific needs. Let’s go address that.’”

    So it’s less about amassing quantity, which was one of the goals of the Robert Griffin III trade — to replenish a talent-depleted roster — and more about addressing specific needs on a roster that in general has fewer holes than a year, or two, or three years ago.

    And with only five picks at the moment — the team could be awarded an extra compensatory pick or two at the owners meetings in March — the Rams need to hit on most of those picks.

    One of the biggest needs obviously is a quarterback, and there should be some intriguing possibilities at the Senior Bowl even though it’s not regarded as a strong or deep draft at the position.

    Baylor’s Bryce Petter, Oregon State’s Sean Mannion, Colorado State’s Garrett Grayson and East Carolina’s Shane Carden are among the QBs expected to attend.

    The Rams almost certainly will be looking at the offensive line once again, particularly on the interior, but also at the tackle position.

    Then again, this could be the year where someone like Donald stands out at the Senior Bowl. On paper, defensive tackle didn’t shape up as a huge position of need for the Rams a year ago. But the Rams certainly aren’t sorry they made that pick.

    The lone University of Missouri participant this year is defensive end Markus Golden, who could be a first-round selection.

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    Brady and Belli are as good as it gets at their jobs. Everyone else on that team can stay or go, but those two are the heart and soul.

    Or, the primary processing center and the practical execution implementer.

    Just sounds better, in this one case, than “heart” and “soul”….

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    The Salas pick went to Atlanta as part of the Ogletree trade.

    I stand corrected. I looked it up, you’re right. Now I have to change the original post.

    http://www.prosportstransactions.com/football/DraftTrades/Years/2015.htm

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    he can design plays that GET guys open and even better, got them open on the move. And we NEED that because Schotty couldn’t.

    You and I differ on Schott, though not on Chudzinski. I think C is everything you say he is. I would say Schott could get receivers open when he had receivers and a qb. Unfortunately, it wasn’t that often he had both. By far the best WRs he had were in 2014, and he didn’t have the qb. Buy far the best qb he had was Bradford, but in 2013 they had little or nothing and in 2012 they had Gibson and Amendola. What Schott showed me in 2012 was as little as he had DA, he used him better than anyone has before and since, and was even getting him long balls deep.

    Last year even with Davis and Hill, you put their numbers up combined, according to PFF the Davis/Hill qb would be 9th in the league in attempts of 20 yards or more. So there’s a vertical game to Schott…when he has the qb and a WR.

    But that’s the past. Just an interesting difference of opinion.

    Chud would be good. In fact the way you put all that, I think the offense wouldn’t be that different from what they’ve had.

    At the same time, nothing in Van Pelt makes me wary of him, and I like his graduate school degree (ie. coaching for McCarthy).

    There are only so many experienced coordinators available. Most experienced coordinators were once position coaches who got promoted. It’s just that when it comes to this part of it, we as fans know far less. So it’s harder to assess it.

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    Have those two teams played recently?

    2012. Same year as the Rams played the AFC East.

    Game was in Seattle. Seahawks won 24-23 on a last minute TD (Wilson to Rice). They came back from being down 23-10 with 8 minutes remaining.

    Now remember, this superbowl is more interesting for you than it is for Rams fans.

    The superbowl is different if it’s your 2 favorite teams.

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    Rams set for Senior Bowl week

    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/15535/rams-set-for-senior-bowl-week

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — Whether it’s a coincidence or not, the St. Louis Rams have become big proponents of using the offseason’s biggest all-star game as a finding ground for a number of their draft picks.

    This week’s Senior Bowl, set to take place again in Mobile, Alabama, is the most well-known game of the all-star season and has proved in the past three years to be a popular place for the Rams to nail down evaluations of players.

    General manager Les Snead said that isn’t necessarily by design but also doesn’t deny that drafting talented seniors can help get results a little faster.

    “Never do you have preference for a senior,” Snead said. “I think when you take a senior versus a younger kid, usually you know that senior is probably going to be more ready to play than the younger kid. There’s a lot of young kids coming out and you see the names every day. So you better be able to work it both ways. I think the development plan for success is different for each one.”

    In the three years with Snead as the general manager and Jeff Fisher as coach, the Rams have actually struck a balance between taking more polished seniors and grabbing younger players with upside. They have erred toward upside on players like offensive tackle Greg Robinson and defensive tackle Michael Brockers but they’ve also drafted former Senior Bowlers such as receiver Brian Quick, cornerback Janoris Jenkins, running back Isaiah Pead, safety T.J. McDonald and, the biggest prize of all in defensive tackle Aaron Donald.

    Although Robinson went 11 spots higher than Donald in the draft, the Rams knew they were getting a much more polished product in Donald, something that was exceedingly clear when Donald dominated the 2014 Senior Bowl.

    “Greg being a redshirt sophomore, Aaron being a four year starter, they’re really only one year apart, I don’t know the calendar age but Greg got redshirted, started let’s call it 24 games,” Snead said. “Aaron didn’t get redshirted, started 48 games and he got 24 more starts than Greg. Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t take Greg. It means Greg is going to learn some of the things Aaron learned in those last 24 out here in the NFL so you have just got to have a different plan for success. Historically, I think seniors are more mentally mature than the younger kids.”

    This year, the Rams once again head to the Senior Bowl with a preliminary draft board in place. Obviously, the scouting staff has been working all year on many of those who will play in Mobile but the week offers a chance for the coaches to get a first look at some top prospects and some lesser-known prospects an opportunity to perform against better competition.

    According to Snead, the Rams have already narrowed their board of players to less than 500 following the December meetings in which the area scouts return to town and start sifting through prospects with Snead. Coincidentally, Snead finds that the initial board they have now is often more accurate than ones that will come later after things like the scouting combine.

    “You’re always doing studies on where’d you have him and how did he turn out?” Snead said. “We set it in the summer for the first time then December we come back and do a little bit of a reset and then maybe post-all-star, post-combine then we go through the spring and then one final [board]. So you analyze how you do your boards, usually the one in December is where you’re right because that’s them playing football.”

    This Senior Bowl should have the Rams taking a closer look at the quarterbacks and offensive linemen in place. Oregon State’s Sean Mannion, East Carolina’s Shane Carden, Baylor’s Bryce Petty, Alabama’s Blake Sims, Colorado State’s Garrett Grayson and Auburn’s Nick Marshall are the six signal-callers in place. None are expected to be first-round choices but any could emerge as an intriguing option for a team like the Rams later on.

    All told, even if the Senior Bowl isn’t the end all, be all for the Rams’ evaluation efforts, it is an important piece in the process.

    “The Senior Bowl is really good,” Snead said. “Seniors, they get to go compete against guys that are going to be in the NFL so you get to see their competitiveness. Let’s talk wide receivers. A lot of times, they are not getting pressed in college. In this game you get to go see them press. It doesn’t mean that will be a deal breaker but you can see how they get off the press, how far is he away to get off so there’s things you can see at the Senior Bowl that all of a sudden these kids coming from the college offenses haven’t done. A lot of times you don’t do that in college. That’s what the Senior Bowl is to me.”

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    Checking in on Rams’ offensive coordinator search

    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/15539/checking-in-on-rams-offensive-coordinator-search

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — Real, tangible news on the St. Louis Rams’ search for an offensive coordinator has been difficult to uncover.

    That’s probably by the design of head coach Jeff Fisher, who surprised many last year when he and Gregg Williams solved whatever issues they had and reunited in St. Louis after Fisher relieved Tim Walton of his defensive coordinator duties.

    After Brian Schottenheimer departed for the offensive coordinator job at Georgia, I wrote in this space that it’s probably best not to expect Fisher’s search to play out publicly or swiftly. That isn’t how he’s handled things in the past, and it again doesn’t appear to be the case this time around.

    Schottenheimer’s departure came nearly two weeks ago, and to this point it’s been hard to confirm any actual interviews taking place, though we do know of a few names the Rams have shown interest in or spoken to in some capacity. That list includes Greg Roman, Kyle Shanahan, Nathaniel Hackett and Adam Gase.

    Roman never made it to a Rams interview, taking the coordinator job in Buffalo. The Rams requested an interview with Gase, but it’s unknown if that will happen. He’s received similar overtures from Atlanta, Jacksonville, Oakland and Chicago and interviewed for the head-coaching job in Denver, so he has no shortage of options. It appears he’s also going to be a strong candidate in Baltimore after Gary Kubiak moves on to Denver and Jacksonville is in better position than many might realize after Gase interviewed there Sunday. Gase has family in the Jacksonville area.

    Shanahan is a name that has obvious ties to Fisher, but he looks to be headed to Atlanta with Dan Quinn if and when the Falcons hire Quinn as head coach. That can’t officially happen until after the Super Bowl but the Falcons can hire Shanahan before then.

    A few others to keep an eye on include an in-house candidate in tight ends coach Rob Boras and Indianapolis special assistant Rob Chudzinski. Chudzinski is also expected to be a factor in San Francisco’s search but NFL Network reported Monday morning that the Rams have asked for permission to interview Chudzinski. It was also thought that Fisher might have a surprise candidate or two up his sleeve in the form of a current position coach somewhere in the league. According to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the Rams have requested permission to talk to Green Bay quarterback coach Alex Van Pelt, who would fit that bill.

    It’s possible more clarity could come this week as the Rams head to the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama. It’s a place where plenty of NFL business gets taken care of, so even if the Rams don’t nail down their next coordinator, other dominoes could fall that might ultimately help render a decision.

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