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znModeratorYoung Havenstein.
znModeratorNFC West draft grades: Arizona Cardinals snap up athletic haul
By Bucky Brooks
2) ST. LOUIS RAMS: The Rams faced immediate criticism for selecting Todd Gurley in Round 1 despite having more pressing needs along the offensive line, but it’s hard to fault coach Jeff Fisher and GM Les Snead for taking a premier talent at the position. When healthy, Gurley ranks as an elite prospect; his rugged running style should give St. Louis’ offense the blue-collar identity Fisher desires. The Rams selected offensive tackles Rob Havenstein (Round 2), Jamon Brown (Round 3) and Andrew Donnal (Round 4) to give the coaching staff plenty of options to come up with the right combination in the trenches. If a rookie starter or two can emerge there, the group should be able to consistently own the line of scrimmage against top defenses. Sean Mannion (Round 3) is an intriguing quarterback prospect with experience directing a pro-style system. With a strong supporting cast, he could flourish in the NFL. GRADE: B
znModeratornew defensive coordinator. brockers playing at a different weight i believe. ogletree shows up out of shape…
Also as Fisher revealed, after the KC game (I think it was) they just cut out a lot of packages, and focused the D on doing fewer things.
I think that 2 Fisher slow starts go directly to this—plans that did not fit who they had.
In 2013 it was (as I already opined above) that gawd-awful spread that depended on receivers and linemen who weren’t ready for it and a running back who didn’t fit it. Fisher reeled that in after 4 games.
In 2014 it was Wms doing too much (IMO but I suspect this is real and not just an IMO). As much as GW talked about adapting to the players, he really didn’t do that, at least not in some crucial respects…instead he seemed to go all X n O mad scientist. And of course, this combination—young players who didn’t yet have a feel for what he was doing and him not slowing things down for them to work on execution—led to boatloads of game-costing errors. Big errors. We can even name a lot of them off. Romo to Bryant, Kaepernick to Lloyd…….
I think Fisher let his coordinators get ahead of themselves. It has now led to 2 wholesale in-season revisions: dumping the spread in 2013, simplifying the D in 2014.
This season, he seems to be ahead of that curve in advance.
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znModerator“I had some other calls, but I just told them, ‘Sorry, I’m a Ram.’
“Going into the weekend, I talked a lot with my college coaches and my agent, and for me, the Rams just seemed like the best fit. This team has one of the best defensive lines in the league and the best defensive line coach (Mike Waufle) in the NFL.
See, they say it out there, too, not just here.
znModeratorAnyone know if grass fields help prevent these nasty ACL injuries?
NFL panel finds some knee, ankle injuries more common on turf
Associated Press
Updated: July 26, 2012 at 08:41 p.m.
NEW YORK — An NFL panel found that certain serious knee and ankle injuries happen more often in games played on the most popular brand of artificial turf than on grass.
The league’s Injury and Safety Panel is presenting its study Friday at the annual meeting of the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons in New Orleans.
The report examined the 2002 through 2008 NFL seasons, comparing games played on grass to those on FieldTurf. It found that the rate of anterior cruciate ligament injuries was 88 percent higher in FieldTurf games — a conclusion that the manufacturer of the synthetic field hotly disputes.
Panel chairman Dr. Elliott Hershman, a New York Jets team orthopedist, said it’s too soon to make any recommendations on what surface teams should choose. More research is needed on issues such as whether players are wearing the right types of shoes on artificial turf.
“At this point, we want to stimulate more discussion,” Hershman said.
The panel has presented its findings to league owners, the NFL Players Association and companies that make artificial turf. The study has been submitted for publication.
“The paper is designed to stimulate further discussion, inquiry and improvements in playing surfaces,” league spokesman Greg Aiello said. “It does not draw any conclusions about the cause of the injuries analyzed. Our panel states in the report that additional analyses, data from future NFL seasons, and studies of injury rates on synthetic turf and natural grass surfaces, including for other athletic populations and levels of football, are needed before any conclusions can be drawn or recommendations made.”
Nine NFL stadiums currently have FieldTurf (Cincinnati, Detroit, Indianapolis, New England, Atlanta, Minnesota, St. Louis, Seattle and the new Meadowlands Stadium).
NFL teams began switching from the old carpet-style turf to the springier, more grass-like surface in 2000. By the end of the 2008 season, 14 stadiums used a brand of next-generation turf, while the rest had grass. Too few games were played on brands other than FieldTurf to include them in the study, Hershman said.
The panel started to notice a higher rate of injuries on the new turf in evaluating the data that the NFL compiles each season, Hershman said. Once enough games had been played on the newer surfaces to do a scientific analysis, the panel found that anterior cruciate ligament injuries and a more serious type of ankle sprain occurred at a higher rate that is statistically significant.
The rate for the ankle sprains was 32 percent higher on FieldTurf than on grass. Medial collateral ligament injuries and a less serious type of ankle sprain also happened more frequently, but the difference wasn’t statistically significant.
Hershman noted that the NFL research might not apply to lower levels of football or to other sports.
FieldTurf president Eric Daliere argues that the panel’s methods are faulty and cites research by Montana State professor Michael Meyers that has been published in The American Journal of Sports Medicine. Meyers’ work, though, has only looked at high school and college football, and not the NFL. FieldTurf paid for Meyers’ recent study that found lower overall injury rates for college games played on the surface.
“Michael Meyers has come to a very different conclusion on a different level and his is a real study, not just a report,” Daliere said. “He mentions poorly designed (analyses) — and this is the kind of work he does — and that the statistical analysis by the (NFL) panel was also flawed.
“I don’t put a lot of weight in it and think if is unfortunate it is coming out this way at this time.”
Meyers said in an e-mail to The Associated Press that he told the NFL in 2008 “there are too many glaring omissions and biases in the study to reach any valid conclusions.” He questioned why certain factors that could influence injury rates weren’t included and noted that some teams didn’t play any games on FieldTurf during some of the seasons studied.
Other university scientists and statisticians also expressed concerns, he said, and the panel withdrew its report after those meetings.
Hershman disputed that.
“Nobody withdrew anything,” he said. “We actually did some review of our data based on some of the thoughts they raised, and we validated our data. Because we did all that, we now feel our data is valid, relevant and statistically significant.”
FieldTurf promotes the safety benefits of its product on its Web site.
“As a company,” Daliere said, “the safety of the athletes really is in our DNA. It’s what FieldTurf focused on from the very beginning when we replaced traditional Astroturf with something dramatically safer.”
Daliere mentioned that Hershman’s team, the Jets, will have FieldTurf in its new stadium.
A close look at the panel’s data might not have much effect on NFL teams that know they can save money on maintenance in the long run by using FieldTurf rather than grass. The study estimated that if every stadium with grass were to switch to FieldTurf, that would result in only five additional ACL injuries per season across the NFL because of the infrequency of the injury.
The NFLPA’s biennial poll of its players last year showed that their four favorite fields were grass: Arizona, Tampa, San Diego and Carolina. Four of the next six were FieldTurf.
znModeratorDoesn’t that cost seem way off at $12,500,000.000 per injury? Or just an example of how ridiculous the cost of healthcare is?
Dunno, but my guess is it’s the latter.
And welcome aboard old friend.
znModeratorI just think it’s completely situational.
2013: they started off with that woe-begotten, stillborn spread offense that depended on a play-action left OT, a non-back in Richardson, and several green receivers who were just not up to it.
2014: no Bradford, and the OL had not played together that much in the summer, with both Wells and Long recovering.
I has done said it before. Fisher’s teams peak and valley across long stretches–that is, both stretches include a series of consecutive seasons. When his teams are peaking, they do not start slow. Of course it’s also vice versa, but that’s a chicken/egg thing.
Yeah, probably. But the Viking game last year
was just ugly. I did not like it.I think it was mainly the Early season Defensive fiasco
that lingers in my mind. Whatever that was about,
i hope we dont see it again.w
vOut of sync OL, no Bradford. I was thinking all that at the time. Also, yeah, the defense was kind of lost too. Took them a while to get up to par.
znModeratorI just think it’s completely situational.
2013: they started off with that woe-begotten, stillborn spread offense that depended on a play-action left OT, a non-back in Richardson, and several green receivers who were just not up to it.
2014: no Bradford, and the OL had not played together that much in the summer, with both Wells and Long recovering.
I has done said it before. Fisher’s teams peak and valley across long stretches–that is, both stretches include a series of consecutive seasons. When his teams are peaking, they do not start slow. Of course it’s also vice versa, but that’s a chicken/egg thing.
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Rams rookies get up to speed at “orientation”By Jim Thomas
As Jeff Fisher sees it, it was orientation — not minicamp — for 26 Rams rookies over the weekend.
“Nowhere in the building are you going to see anything that says ‘rookie minicamp,’” Fisher said Saturday. “We call it orientation.”
Even with the NFL Scouting Combine and pro days and private workouts leading up to the draft, Fisher said the rookies just aren’t in the same shape when they report as are Rams veterans.
“So our job is to get (the rookies) caught up,” he said. “That’s what we’re doing. We had a long lecture with them (Friday) not to go faster than three-quarter speed. That’s kind of the way we approach it. We’ve had two good days on the field, and I don’t have a single soft-tissue issue with anybody.”
In part because of the limited numbers, Rams rookies were on the practice field for only about an hour and 15 minutes on Friday, and the same on Saturday.
Even though the minicamp — uh, orientation — ended Saturday, the rookies are here until late June.
They will start getting mixed in with the veterans on Thursday, both in the weight room and on the field for what’s called “skill development.”
Per league rules, skill development means the players can take part in football drills with coaches present, but there can be no 11-on-11 or seven-on-seven drills. In other words, no offense vs. defense.
“We’re gonna use the next week or two to get (the rookies) completely caught up,” Fisher said.
Then come the full-speed spring practices known as OTAs starting the first week of June.
With such little practice time over the weekend, the rookies spent hours inside, be it in meeting rooms or doing walk-throughs.
“We’ve got to get the fitness part going. So it’s the weight room, it’s player development, it’s football, it’s diet, it’s flexibility,” Fisher said. “It’s everything. We find out where they are, so we can start appropriately next week.”
Obviously, sometimes injuries can’t be prevented. But there have been telling examples in the last few days that coming out full speed right away with the rookies isn’t the best way to go.
On Friday, Jaguars linebacker/defensive end Dante Fowler suffered a season-ending knee injury — a torn ACL — less than an hour into the team’s first minicamp practice.
“It’s unfortunate,” Fisher said. “I heard he was in an 11-on-11 drill, full-speed pass rush, and he had a problem. Our philosophy is not to put them in that position for a couple of weeks until we know where they’re at.”
Then on Saturday, Denver rookie tight end Jeff Heuerman suffered a knee injury that is expected to keep him out all season.
After being indoors for Friday’s practice, the Rams were able to work outside Saturday under light rain at their Earth City complex.
Once again, No. 10 overall draft pick Todd Gurley did not practice and will not do so for some time as he continues his rehabilitation work from last season’s knee surgery while in college, at Georgia.
Gurley hung out with the other running backs and watched the proceedings wearing a baseball-style cap. His left knee was wrapped.
It’s all mental reps, listening, and learning for Gurley at this point. In all likelihood, he won’t be able to practice until August. But these initial days at Rams Park aren’t wasted time.
“He’s in the meetings,” Fisher said. “He’s learning the offense. He’s killing the rehab. He’s paying attention in the walk-throughs. He’s meeting his teammates. … He’ll definitely know what to do when he’s able to go out there.”
Meanwhile, former Missouri wide receiver Bud Sasser also was a non-participant for the second day in a row, although the sixth-round draft pick’s circumstances are murkier.
“We’re still doing some things, some physical tests, stuff like that,” Fisher said. “We should have it all cleared up here in the next day or so.”
Neither Fisher nor Sasser would provide any additional details.
On the field, it was hard to miss the five offensive linemen — four of whom were drafted players.
“Somebody said they look like refrigerators with legs,” Fisher said.
That was meant as a compliment.
“So it’s a good-looking group and they’re moving around pretty good,” Fisher said.
Second-round pick Rob Havenstein, of Wisconsin, spent Friday and Saturday working at right tackle. Third-round pick Jamon Brown (Louisville) worked at right guard, with fourth-rounder Andrew Donnel (Iowa) at left guard.
With rookie free-agent Darrell Williams (South Florida) at left tackle, that left sixth-rounder Cody Wichmann (Fresno State) no choice but to line up at center when the coaches ran drills using an entire offensive line.
It’s a position Wichmann said he’s never played before, although he said he did work snapping during his pre-draft training. But the Rams didn’t have Wichmann snapping over the weekend; he just lined up there. Third-round quarterback Sean Mannion (Oregon State) started all plays holding the football instead of taking a snap.
Interestingly, Fisher said the Rams were involved in trying to sign Louisiana State tackle/guard La’el Collins, who was not drafted after Baton Rouge, La., police wanted to question him following the murder of a former girlfriend. Collins is not considered a suspect, and was subsequently signed by Dallas as a rookie free agent.
“We still had some unanswered questions at the time at which he made his decision, but we were involved,” Fisher said. “We were told by (Collins’ agents) that we were in the final four, which isn’t necessarily a consolation. But we were involved, yes.”
And for the umpteenth time since the start of the free agency period, Fisher said the Rams continue to have conversations with still-unsigned offensive lineman Joe Barksdale.
znModerator
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Apparently, they drafted a young John C. McGinley in his role as Sergeant Red O’Neill in Platoon..

znModeratorThis is pretty good.
The transcript is really just highlights, and doesn’t cover everything he says.
znModeratorRams notes: Northwest Missouri star Longacre gets a shot with Rams
By Joe Lyons
Rams defensive end Matt Longacreis is out to prove himself again.
A team captain and leader at Millard West High in Omaha, Neb., Longacre drew limited recruiting interest before opting for NCAA Division II power Northwest Missouri State — largely because of the program’s winning tradition. Over the last four seasons, the Bearcats went 46-8, made four playoff appearances and capped a 15-0 campaign in 2013 with a fourth national championship.
And Longacre, a 6-foot-3, 260-pounder who recently signed as a rookie free agent with the Rams, was at the heart of that success. He twice was voted the Mid-America Intercollegiate Athletic Association defensive player of the year after finishing as career leader in tackles for loss (47) and sacks (30½). As a senior, he was in on 38 tackles, including 12 for loss, with 8 ½ sacks and 17 quarterback hurries.
Despite that production, he went undrafted.
“It would’ve been nice to be drafted — it’s a huge honor; everybody wants to hear his name called — but I went into the draft knowing my situation and wasn’t overly disappointed,’’ he said after taking part in a rookie workout over the weekend at Rams Park. “I’m just happy to be here and looking forward to the opportunity to prove myself.’’
Longacre said he was in contact with the Rams throughout the final rounds of last weekend’s draft.
“I probably signed less than five minutes after the draft ended,” he said. “I had some other calls, but I just told them, ‘Sorry, I’m a Ram.’
“Going into the weekend, I talked a lot with my college coaches and my agent, and for me, the Rams just seemed like the best fit. This team has one of the best defensive lines in the league and the best defensive line coach (Mike Waufle) in the NFL. I’m looking forward to learning from the best and doing what I can to help.’’
Rated as the No. 11 small-school draft prospect by D2football.com, Longacre hopes to make an early impact on special teams.
“I’m highly motivated,” the 23-year-old said. “Being a free agent, a guy from a small school, I know I have to work and fight that much harder to make an impression. I’m going to listen to the coaches and just keep striving to get better.
“All I ever wanted was a chance. The Rams have given me that chance and the rest is up to me.”
NAIA HOPEFUL
Like Longacre, linebacker Keshaun Malone from Bacone College of Muskogee, Okla., dominated last fall. The Central States Football League defensive player of the year made 135 tackles, intercepted five passes and had a sack.
Not bad for a guy who stands 6-2 and weighs 260 pounds.
“I worked hard and had a great season. I was thrilled to get the call from St. Louis and I’m excited to be here,’’ the 22-year-old said. “Just being here, it’s great. This is the NFL, the best of the best, and I’m just going to try and push myself every single day to show them that I can play. You can’t worry about the next guy; I just want to go out every day and play my game, do what I can do and hopefully find a way to help this football team.’’
A finalist for the Cliff Harris Award, which goes to the nation’s top small school defensive player, Malone is the second Bacone player in as many years to sign with the Rams. A year ago, defensive tackle Deantre Harlan showed some promise during the preseason before failing to survive the final cut.
“We watched Deantre on TV during the preseason — he played real well — and I talked to him once he got back to school,” Malone said. “He told me this was a great organization, and I’m excited to be a part of it.”
znModeratorHavenstein
Brown
http://www.stlouisrams.com/videos/videos/Brown-Im-very-grateful/d59af063-243b-488c-b218-fb2e2824b6b0
Gurley
Mannion
znModeratorRams Getting Rookies up to Speed
By Myles Simmons
The Rams 2015 rookie class took the field for the first time on Friday and Saturday, with 26 drafted, undrafted, and tryout players. In a way, it’s like the first few days of school in that the young players are having initial meetings with their coaches and fellow rookie teammates. And with the way head coach Jeff Fisher likes to run things, it’s a time to get the young players caught up to the veterans in the overall offseason program.
“Nowhere in the building are you going to see anything that says, ‘rookie minicamp.’ We call it orientation,” Fisher said. “We’ve talked to [the rookies] about this — it’s not their fault. They are not in the same condition that the vets are because the vets, many of them were in before the start of the offseason program.”
Fisher added that the Rams will not have the rookies lift with the veterans for a while, and will not have them on the field together until Thursday. The head coach said the team stressed the importance of not going faster than three-quarter speed to reduce the risk of injury.
“We’re combining walk-thrus and meetings,” Fisher said of the rookie program. “We’ve got to get the fitness part going, so it’s the weight room, it’s player development, it’s football — it’s just everything. It’s diet, it’s flexibility. We find out where they are so we can start off appropriately next week.”
One of the four offensive linemen the Rams selected in the draft, Andrew Donnal said that the way the club runs orientation is beneficial to the players’ development.
“It’s a lot of stuff, but the nice part is that this is all we do right now,” he said. “It’s all football. We’re not in college anymore so we don’t have school. We don’t have any other distractions. It’s all football all the time, so we have plenty of time to get the material down.”
Focusing solely on football is helpful in that there is a lot the rookies must do to settle in. There’s the obvious “speed of the game,” which rookies cite as a significant change from college to the pros year after year. The Rams 2015 rookie class is no different.
“Anytime you jump up a level, the speed of the game is going to be faster — something to adjust to, get used to,” offensive lineman Rob Havenstein said. “Obviously, I haven’t done it to this point. So I’m looking forward to learning from that and just trying to be a better football player.”
“We’re just dealing with fresh-out-of-college guys, and it still seems faster because these are all top-notch players,” offensive lineman Cody Wichmann said. “I can only imagine when the big dogs come in here.”
But there is more to it than that. Players are not only getting used to a new environment and new system, but also a different timeframe when it comes to understanding technique.
“They expect you to pick up on things quicker than when you were in college,” offensive lineman Jamon Brown said. “In college, you slow it down, they kind of walk you through a lot more things. But out here, they show you it, and they expect you to be able to soak it in and apply it to the drills.”
There’s also the terminology and technique aspect of adjusting, and some players have more of an advantage. Fisher cited Donnal and Havenstein as two examples because the Iowa and Wisconsin offensive systems are similar to what St. Louis employs. Quarterback Sean Mannion is in a like position, given his experience at Oregon State.
“I know just learning the offense, it wasn’t my first time with certain protections, it wasn’t my first time with certain patterns,” he said of his first couple of days at Rams Park. “But the detail that goes into every little aspect of each play is just so much higher. There’s always tons and tons of things to be sharp on, to learn about, so that way the offense can run at a high level.”
While it’s much too early in the process to come away with any conclusions, Fisher said the O-line has caught his eye. In addition to the four draft picks — Havenstein, Brown, Donnal, and Cody Wichmann — the Rams brought in Darrell Williams as an undrafted free agent.
“It’s hard not to look at the four offensive linemen we drafted and say, ‘Wow,’” Fisher said. “Somebody said yesterday they look like refrigerators with legs. It’s a good looking group and they’re moving around pretty good.”
Now that they’re in St. Louis, Fisher said the Rams rookies will be in town through the duration of the offseason program.
“The draft choices are here through the symposium, which is June 22,” Fisher said. “They’re here. We’ve got them.”
znModeratorThose four were joined at rookie orientation by undrafted free agent Darrell Williams, a left tackle from South Florida.
Williams worked at left tackle over the two days of on-field work, with Donnal at left guard, Wichmann at center, Brown at right guard and Havenstein at his customary right tackle spot.
znModeratorRookie OL stand out for Rams
Nate Latsch
http://stl.scout.com/story/1545248-rookie-ol-stand-out-for-rams?s=124
ST. LOUIS — It wasn’t hard to notice the Rams’ five new offensive linemen during their rookie orientation program on Friday and Saturday.
“It’s hard not to look at the four offensive linemen we drafted and say, ‘Wow,’” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said Saturday when asked if any of the rookie caught his eye. “Somebody said yesterday they look like refrigerators with legs. It’s a good-looking group and they’re moving around pretty good.”
Seeking to renovate the offensive line this offseason, Fisher and general manager Les Snead invested four draft picks on the offensive front after signing tackle-guard Garrett Reynolds to a free-agent deal and re-signing reserve center Tim Barnes.
They used a second-round pick on Wisconsin right tackle Rob Havenstein, a third-round pick on Louisville’s Jamon Brown, a fourth-rounder on Andrew Donnal from Iowa and a sixth-round pick on guard Cody Wichmann from Fresno State.
Those four were joined at rookie orientation by undrafted free agent Darrell Williams, a left tackle from South Florida.
Williams worked at left tackle over the two days of on-field work, with Donnal at left guard, Wichmann at center, Brown at right guard and Havenstein at his customary right tackle spot.
The five rookies represented a larger group than Fisher’s Rams have had in the past few seasons, but they were able to get plenty of reps on the field.
“It’s great work for them,” Fisher said. “The Iowa offensive system, the Wisconsin offensive system are probably more closer to what we do. Fresno State, Cody (Wichmann) is well-coached. We’re really excited about Jamon (Brown) because he’s got tremendous athletic ability. I don’t think it’s going to be a long time for the four of them to catch on to the techniques and things and what not.”
With only two starters returning from last season in left tackle Greg Robinson and veteran guard Rodger Saffold, it’s possible the Rams could start two of the rookie linemen this season if the team doesn’t re-sign starting right tackle Joe Barksdale.
Havenstein, a 6-foot-7, 321-pounder, could open the season as the team’s right tackle, though Saffold could move back to that spot and Reynolds has experience after starting four games at that position for the Detroit Lions last year.
Brown, a 6-4, 323-pounder, could start at one of the guard spots opposite Saffold after playing tackle at Louisville. Donnal and Wichmann will also go into training camp competing for one of those guard spots, along with veterans like Brandon Washington.
The Rams have made no secret of the fact that they want to be a physical team and run the football. The upheaval along the front line — where Jake Long and Scott Wells were released and Barksdale and Davin Joseph remain unsigned free agents — speaks to the changes needed to make that a reality.
Now the issue is how quickly players like Havenstein and Brown can become contributors and earn starting spots. They certainly look the part and have plenty of experience from their college careers. This weekend’s rookie orientation was just the beginning.
znModeratorPhoto slide show from rookie orientation
znModeratorRams take different approach to rookie ‘orientation’
By Nick WagonerEARTH CITY, Mo. — Somewhere along the way, the words “rookie minicamp” when paired together became verboten around the St. Louis Rams.
That’s why there’s no evidence of what took place at Rams Park in the past two days being called anything other than Jeff Fisher’s preferred term.
“We kind of fell into this,” Fisher said. “Nowhere in the building are you going to see anything that says ‘rookie minicamp.’ We call it orientation. We have talked to them about this. It’s not their fault. They’re not in the same condition that the vets are. The vets, many of them were in before the start of the offseason program, they got a three-week head start and so our job is to get them caught up. That’s what we’re doing.”
Fisher and the Rams welcomed their nine drafted players, 15 undrafted rookies and a pair of tryout prospects to St. Louis on Thursday and held what amounted to glorified conditioning sessions on Friday and Saturday. In total, they didn’t spend more than about two-and-a-half hours on the field, but that doesn’t mean there wasn’t work getting done.
From Fisher’s perspective, the idea is to slowly introduce the rookies to the mix before throwing them in with the veterans. He instructed the rookies to practice no faster than about three-quarter speed during the on-field work. Only running back Todd Gurley (knee) and receiver Bud Sasser (pending physical tests) did not participate.
Even with these two days over, Fisher won’t let the rookies join the veterans in the weight room yet. In fact, the rookies won’t have much interaction with the veterans until Thursday, when they do some skill development.
“That’s kind of the way we approach it,” Fisher said. “We had two good days on the field and we don’t have a single soft tissue issue with anybody. So we have got to get them caught up. We are going to use the next week or two to get them caught up.”
Getting caught up includes a little bit of everything, Fisher said. That means getting the rookies ready in the weight room, in player development, on the football side, even diet.
When the rookies do join the veterans on Thursday of next week, they’ll still have be in separate offensive and defensive groups doing drill work on the field. By league rule, they can’t come together as an entire team on the field until the beginning of June.
And the rookie class is now with the team until the end of organized team activities, with the draft class able to stick around until the rookie symposium on June 22.
znModeratorHoward Balzer @HBalzer721
Some inside building at Rams Park have described the drafted offensive linemen as “refrigerators with legs.”
Noting that Jaguars DE Dante Fowler Jr. was injured in 11-on-11, full-speed pass-rush drill, Jeff Fisher said, ..”Our philosophy is not to put them in that position for a couple weeks.”
Sixth-round WR Bud Sasser still not practicing because of an issue with his physical. Rams say going through some additional testing.
Sasser claims he doesn’t know what is the issue: “I have no idea. I’m not sure what’s wrong.”
Rams UDFA DT Louis Trinca-Pasaty received $25,000 guaranteed: $15,000 bonus and $10,000 guaranteed salary.
Rams coach Jeff Fisher said team was “involved” in talks with OL La’el Collins and said they were told “we were in the final four.”
Fisher said they “still had some unanswered questions,” but probably would have been more involved had they not had success in the draft.
znModerator(On if the Rams actively pursued LSU OL La’el Collins)
“Yeah, we were involved in it. . . .We were told by them that we were in the final four, which isn’t necessarily a consolation, but we were involved, yes.Interesting
znModeratorYes, this ACL thing is causing all kinds of
fundamental-questioning all over the net.w
vLook for my latest article soon in the journal, Studies In Public Communication: From an Injured Jaguars Rookie to the Historical Complexities of Evolutionary Theory: A Day in the Life of the Huddle Board
znModerator2015 St. Louis Rams undrafted free agents
By Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/18151/2015-st-louis-rams-undrafted-free-agents
The St. Louis Rams signed 15 undrafted free agents after Saturday’s NFL draft.
Here’s a closer look at each player:
Malcolm Brown, RB, 5-11, 224, Texas — Rushed for 2,678 yards and 27 touchdowns in his career for the Longhorns. Enters a crowded backfield in which he’ll likely compete with the likes of Trey Watts and Chase Reynolds for a spot, assuming he can contribute on special teams.
Imoan Claiborne, CB, 5-10, 193 Northwestern State (La) — Played well enough in college to earn an invitation to the Senior Bowl after posting three interceptions and four fumble recoveries in 2014. Said he had a “large number” of teams calling for his services as the draft came to an end.
Isiah Ferguson, WR, 6-5, 218 Arkansas Pine-Bluff — At 6-foot-5, 218 pounds, Ferguson is one of the most physically imposing of the team’s lot of undrafted rookies but didn’t have a ton of production last season as he finished with 29 catches for 343 yards and a touchdown.
Terrence Franks, RB, 5-9, 203, Texas State — Franks had 712 yards rushing and 11 touchdowns last season and will face the same battle as Brown in his attempt to make the roster. He’s related to professional basketball player Rashard Lewis and Tennessee Titans fullback Ahmard Hall.
Montell Garner, CB, 5-11, 188 South Alabama — Finished with 54 tackles and two interceptions in 2014 after posting 60 and three as a junior. Comes from an athletic family in which his father, Milton, played defensive back for Kansas State and his mother, Kamita, ran track for the Wildcats.
Jacob Hagen, S, 6-2, 205 Liberty — Earned a reputation as something of a ballhawk in 2014, finishing with eight interceptions, four forced fumbles and 108 tackles.
Jay Hughes, S, 5-10, 194 Mississippi State –A 2014 team captain, Hughes had 26 tackles, two pass breakups and two interceptions in 2014. That came after a 2013 season in which he missed the final 12 games because of an Achilles injury. His father, Tony, is the assistant head coach for the Bulldogs.
Zach Laskey, FB, 6-2, 225 Georgia Tech — More than just a lead blocker, Laskey rushed for 2,033 yards in his career for the Yellow Jackets’ triple-option-based offense. Is the only true fullback now on Rams’ roster, though tight end Cory Harkey spends plenty of time at the position.
Matt Longacre, DE, 6-3, 260 Northwest Missouri State — Holds school records for sacks (30.5) and tackles for loss (47) on his way to earning Mid-America defensive player of the year status in 2014 and All-American honors in his junior and senior seasons.
Cameron Lynch, LB, 6-0, 229 Syracuse –-A team captain, Lynch finished with 97 tackles and seven sacks in 2014. There’s room to fight for a roster spot at linebacker but special teams will play a key role in that.
Keshaun Malone, LB, 6-2, 260 Bacone — For the second year in a row, the Rams added a defensive player from tiny Bacone after working with defensive tackle Deantre Harlan last year. Earned his conference’s defensive player of the year award in 2014 when he had 135 tackles and five interceptions.
Bradley Marquez, WR, 5-10, 196 Texas Tech — An accomplished baseball player, Marquez spent two years in the New York Mets minor league system. In 2014, he played in 12 games with 65 catches for 821 receiving yards and 10 touchdowns.
Tyler Slavin, WR, 6-1, 201 New Mexico Highlands — Finished with 119 catches for 1,418 yards and 17 touchdowns in 2014. Started his career at Arizona before transferring.
Louis Trinca-Pasat, DT, 6-1, 290 Iowa — From a Romanian family in which he’s the only one of five kids born in the United States, Trinca-Pasat went to the Senior Bowl and Scouting Combine but went undrafted. He finished with 69 tackles and 6.5 sacks last season.
Darrell Williams, OT, 6-5, 301 South Florida — Made 29 starts at left tackle in his final three seasons in college. A native of Jamaica, who came to the United States in ninth grade.
znModerator“There really aren’t too many numbers available. There’s 39, which is SJ’s number. I’m definitely not going to touch that,” Gurley said. “I respect him. I wouldn’t do that.”
Actually if SJ takes an interest, TG could learn a lot from him.
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znModeratorGurley, Rams Rookies Begin Orientation
By Myles Simmons
The new running back is in the building.
Along with his 23 fellow rookies and two tryout players, Todd Gurley, the No. 10 overall selection in the 2015 draft, was in attendance and on the field for the Rams’ first day of rookie orientation.
Though he’s limited while in recovery from his season-ending ACL tear last November, Gurley said it was still special to put on the horns for the first time.
“Oh it felt good,” Gurley said. “It felt real good, just to get the jersey, the helmet, the gloves. It’s been a while, so it definitely felt good just to be able to do that.”
Right now, though, there isn’t much else he is physically cleared to do. He did participate in some of the walk-thru portions of practice. Keeping in mind that it’s his first day at Rams Park, Gurley said that he’ll be getting on top of the next steps in his rehab very soon. He added that he’s been able to run for the past two months, and has been doing certain running back drills — like the ladder — during the process.
But as for a timetable, the running back said that’s not up to him.
“I’d like to be back as soon as possible, but I’m not a doctor or a therapist, so I can’t really tell you when I’ll be back,” Gurley said. “I’m just taking it day-by-day really.”
Head coach Jeff Fisher has previously stated that the team will likely be conservative in the way it eases Gurley back. And as for right now, Gurley says he still has plenty to do mentally when the offense is practicing.
“I can still go through the plays in the back by myself, so that’s always a good thing,” Gurley said, adding that it’s not a boring exercise. “It’s not like I know everything. I don’t know anything, really. So I’m trying to keep my mind busy.”
And once he’s full go, Gurley said that it’s definitely a dream of his to be a bell cow-type back. Many stated throughout the draft process that the No. 10 selection has that kind of potential, and he wants to live up to it.
“Everybody wants to be that three-down back, to be able to stay on the field the majority of the snaps,” Gurley said. “I definitely believe in it, and that’s what I’m working hard to come back and try to be.”
Gurley added that he feels some personal pride in being the first running back taken in the first round since 2012.
“And then Melvin [Gordon] went after me,” Gurley said. “It’s just good. And it’ll make everybody else –running backs around the world — feel good. We didn’t disappear.”
Perhaps the most notable player to campaign for the bell cow back is former Rams RB Steven Jackson, who founded SaveTheRunningBack.org. While the video has its satirical qualities, Gurley is well aware of Jackson’s history when it comes to the Rams franchise.
That was clear when Gurley was explaining his decision to wear No. 30.
“There really aren’t too many numbers available. There’s 39, which is SJ’s number. I’m definitely not going to touch that,” Gurley said. “I respect him. I wouldn’t do that.”
Gurley and the Rams will have their second rookie session on Saturday.
znModeratorSt. Louis’ newest acquisitions invade Rams Park for rookie minicamp
Elisabeth Meinecke
FOX Sports MidwestST. LOUIS — On Friday, 26 guys showed up for their first day of work at Rams Park.
The Rams’ 2015 draft class and rookie free agents fanned out over the indoor football field at the team’s practice facility, receiving instructions from coaches, executing drills and trying to prove they belonged on an NFL field.
“It’s kinda the same feeling as your first practice in college — you want to make a good impression,” said Oregon State quarterback Sean Mannion, who was drafted 89th overall last weekend. “So maybe the first couple routes, I was throwing it a little harder than I really needed to. But it wasn’t nervous. It’s fun to be out here, and back practicing.”
More than one rookie spent the week between last weekend’s draft and Friday’s workout prepping physically for the challenge. Linebacker Bryce Hager, one of two defensive players selected in the seventh round by St. Louis, tried to fit in a couple hours of conditioning and light lifting each day, with the goal of staying flexible and in shape.
“It’s a lot of running out here,” he said of the workouts, as the St. Louis humidity hung in the air. Fortunately, the city’s elevated temperature didn’t floor him — he played both college and high school ball in the Lone Star State.
“(I’m) used to the heat,” he said.
Missouri wide receiver Bud Sasser, who didn’t participate fully in the drills due to a pending physical, resumed his normal workouts the day after getting a call from the Rams. He worked out a couple times in the Dallas area with quarterback Bryce Petty, who was drafted by the New York Jets in the fourth round.
“We got some good work in,” Sasser said of their practices together, though he added the two didn’t really exchange tips other than a “best of luck” here and there.
Since arriving in St. Louis, the rookies haven’t had much time to explore their new city, but Mannion says he’s looking forward to it — and he already has an inside connection.
“That’s what’s exciting, too, is you’re moving into a new place, you want to kind of check it out,” he said. “I know (what’s) really nice for me is having (punter) Johnny Hekker here. We were teammates in college. Every person I talk to around the building just talks about Johnny non-stop, so hopefully he can show me the ropes when we have a little bit of time off.”
For those who don’t have a Hekker to guide them, Sasser might prove a good alternative. While at Mizzou, he’d make occasional trips to the city and has already participated in one of its biggest traditions: attending Cardinals games. He admitted, however, he doesn’t have a favorite Cards player — yet.
“I’ll have to find one,” he said.
Gurley dresses, does not participate
• The Rams’ first-round draft pick, Todd Gurley, was at Rams Park Friday, but did not participate fully in the drills as he continues rehabbing from a torn ACL.
“I would want to be back as soon as possible, but I’m not a doctor or a therapist, so I can’t really tell you when I’ll be back,” Gurley said. “I’m just taking it day by day.”
znModeratorFrank Clark may face possible ban if he has future altercation
Geoff Baker
May 7, 2015The Seahawks’ top draft pick won’t face NFL discipline for November fracas, but disorerly conduct plea would be a factor in a subsequent incidents.
Seahawks draft pick Frank Clark won’t face NFL discipline for a hotel altercation with his girlfriend last November, but could be banned indefinitely if anything similar occurs again.
NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Clark’s criminal offense occurred before he was drafted by the Seahawks, making him ineligible for discipline under the league’s code of conduct policy. But Aiello added that Clark’s arrest and guilty plea to a reduced charge of disorderly conduct “would be a factor in any subsequent incident as an NFL player.’’
The policy, strengthened after last year’s controversy over the NFL’s handling of the Ray Rice case, would see Clark considered a “repeat offender,” with any further violations subject to possible banishment from the league.
“It’s not enough simply to avoid being found guilty of a crime,’’ the conduct policy states. “We are all held to a higher standard and must conduct ourselves in a way that is responsible, promotes the values of the NFL and is lawful.’’
Clark was arrested Nov. 15 in Sandusky, Ohio, and charged with first-degree misdemeanor domestic violence and assault after an altercation with his girlfriend in a hotel room.
He accepted a plea deal April 10 on a lesser charge of fourth-degree misdemeanor persistent disorderly conduct. He paid a $250 fine, $100 in court costs, and jail time was limited to two days already served. The domestic-violence charge has been stricken from his record.
But the arrest, initial charge and eventual plea will follow him to the NFL and be considered in the event another violation occurs.
Once the league becomes aware of a possible violation, NFL security, private firms, or a combination of both undertakes an investigation. The league can hand out discipline independent of any court decision.
“This decision will not reflect a finding of guilt or innocence and will not be guided by the same legal standards and considerations that apply in a criminal trial,’’ the policy states.
Violations of the policy include disorderly conduct, to which Clark has already pleaded guilty. Domestic violence and assault, which he was initially charged with, carry a minimum six-game suspension without pay.
If Clark is charged with domestic violence or assault, he would face that six-game suspension if league investigators determine he violated the conduct policy. But he could also face a heftier suspension, since the policy lists “similar misconduct before joining the NFL’’ as an aggravating factor.
“Repeat offenders will be subject to enhanced and/or expedited discipline, including banishment from the league,’’ the policy states.
The league offers counseling and other resources to players and family members involved in domestic-violence incidents.
znModeratorFifteen undrafted rookies at Rams minicamp
By Jim Thomas
The Rams are expected to have 24 rookies on the practice field Friday at their rookie minicamp, encompassing nine draft picks and 15 undrafted rookies. Add South Alabama cornerback Montell Garner and Bacone linebacker Keshaun Malone to our previous list of rookie free agents.
Garner comes from an athletic family. His father Milton played defensive back for Kansas (1984-87); his mother participated in track at Kansas State.
Malone is the second player from Bacone (in Muskogee, Okla.) to get a shot at a Rams roster spot in successive seasons. Defensive tackle Deantre Harlan, who was in Rams training camp last summer before going on to Winnipeg of the Canadian Football League, also attended Bacone.
Here’s the confirmed list of Rams rookie free agents, which unofficially puts the team’s roster at 88 players _ or two under the offseason limit:
Malcolm Brown RB 5-11, 224 Texas
Logged 2,678 career rushing yards, 27 TDs for Longhorns.
Imoan Claiborne CB 5-10, 193 Northwestern State (La.)
Senior Bowl invite had 3 INTs, 4 fumble recoveries in ’14.
Isiah Ferguson WR 6-5, 218 Arkansas-Pine Bluff
Had 29 catches for 343 yards, 1 TD last fall.
Terrence Franks RB 5-9, 203 Texas State
Rushed for 712 yards, 11 TDs last season.
Montell Garner CB 5-11, 188 South Alabama
Two interceptions, 54 tackles in 2014; 4.61 in 40 at pro day.Jacob Hagen S 6-2, 205 Liberty
Intercepted 8 passes w/108 tackles, four forced fumbles in ’14.
Jay Hughes S 5-10, 194 Mississippi State
Team captain for Orange Bowl squad picked off 2 passes in ’14.Zach Laskey FB 6-2, 225 Georgia Tech
Ranks 13th in school history with 2,033 career rushing yards.
Matt Longacre DE 6-3, 260 Northwest Missouri State
School career records for sacks (30 1/2), tackles for loss (47).
Cameron Lynch LB 6-0, 229 Syracuse
Had 97 tackles, 7 sacks in 2014; team captain.
Keshaun Malone LB 6-2, 260 Bacone
Conference def. player of the year in ’14 (135 tackles, 5 INTs).
Bradley Marquez WR 5-10, 196 Texas Tech
Spent 2 summers playing minor-league baseball w/Mets.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1860927/bradley-marquez
Marquez is average in the size, strength and speed categories, but he shows natural route acceleration to change gears well with toughness to work over the middle and do damage in contested situations.
Tyler Slavin WR 6-1, 201 New Mexico Highlands
Caught 119 passes for 1,418 yards and 17 TDs last season.
Louis Trinca-Pasat DT 6-1, 290 IowaCombine invite had 69 tackles, 6 1/2 sacks last season.
Darrell Williams OT 6-5, 301 South FloridaHad 29 starts at left tackle in college.
znModeratorNot as strong as Steven Jackson or Lynch. Not as elusive as Faulk. Sorry but I’m not seeing the case for the pick other than the low expectations for this team makes the gamble somewhat more palatable.
Oh I see the case, absolutely. We just differ on that.
Do you mean Fisher building the Rams into defensive oriented team with a sustained ball control offense? Seahawks-ish? I don’t see it. No Lynch. No Wilson. Crappy O-line, check!
Well no what I meant was I see Gurley’s qualities as a back.
But I personally don’t think Fisher is making this a Seattle style offense anyway. I think it will be the same balanced offense it has always been.
And Seattle has a crappy OL, but one without excuses because it is not young, and IMO the Rams in Gurley have IMO Lynch’s equal as a quality back.
The difference is, the Rams have been, are and will be more of a passing team than Seattle has been. IMO they will be a balanced team along the lines of Baltimore.
And of course…they ain’t done any of that yet, so….
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znModeratorof course, bradford had a straight acl tear, and he reinjured it on a freak hit to the knee. so no one can predict these things.
One small thing. The 2nd Bradford ACL was not a hit to the knee. It was the exact same thing that happened the first time, just a different way—the leg got bent. The first time it got caught and bent as he was dragged backwards going out of bounds. The second time the defender hung his weight on a standing Bradford and he got his leg caught trying to maintain balance.
I saw them as 2 hyper-extensions.
As someone who has had quite a few of those (mercifully without a tear) I saw immediately what happened. They were just freak things. Neither one had anything to do with the knee being hit. (Actually it was the same with both Jake Long and Carson Palmer.)
znModeratorNot as strong as Steven Jackson or Lynch. Not as elusive as Faulk. Sorry but I’m not seeing the case for the pick other than the low expectations for this team makes the gamble somewhat more palatable.
Oh I see the case, absolutely. We just differ on that.
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