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the rams have the [future] safety they want, his name is Mo Alexander. they didnt take him in the fourth for special teams value. fisher has said more than once that they really really like him paired with tj. they want interchangeable safeties, not free and strong.
gw also said he plans on playing his safeties deep so they will typically be moving forward like LBs. this plays to the strengths of tj and moe.
znModerator2013 Offensive Line Rankings
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/01/13/2013-offensive-line-rankings/3/
13. St Louis Rams (26th)
PB: 17th, RB: 9th, PEN: 26thStud: Many, ourselves included, wondered if Jake Long (+25.8) was done. He’d enjoyed a great start to his career in Miami but two so-so years left a lot to be desired. Well, this was the year he came back with a bang, and it’s a horrible shame his season ended with an ACL and MCL tear.
Dud: He may be a former first-rounder but Chris Williams (-21.8) is just a liability as a lineman. Far too much pressure, not enough good run blocking, and he’s the team’s weak link on offense.
Analysis: A step forward but perhaps not as much as they would have like to see. They nailed it with the pickup of Long and got surprisingly good play from Joe Barksdale, Shelley Smith and Rodger Saffold at guard. That would suggest a higher finish, but the interior trio of Williams, Harvey Dahl and Scott Wells really didn’t play up to the level that was needed of them.
July 8, 2014 at 9:16 am in reply to: Neanderthal trait in early human skull adds to complexity of human evolution #1181znModeratorNeandertal trait in early human skull suggests that modern humans emerged from complex labyrinth of biology and peoples
Washington University in St. Louis
Summary: Re-examination of a circa 100,000-year-old archaic early human skull found 35 years ago in Northern China has revealed the surprising presence of an inner-ear formation long thought to occur only in Neandertals.
Share ThisThe Xujiayao 15 late archaic human temporal bone from northern China with the extracted temporal labyrinth superimposed on a view of the Xujiayao site.
Credit: Institute of Vertebrate Paleontology and Paleoanthropology, Chinese Academy of ScienceThe Xujiayao 15 late archaic human temporal bone from northern China with the extracted temporal labyrinth superimposed on a view of the Xujiayao site.
Re-examination of a circa 100,000-year-old archaic early human skull found 35 years ago in Northern China has revealed the surprising presence of an inner-ear formation long thought to occur only in Neandertals.
“The discovery places into question a whole suite of scenarios of later Pleistocene human population dispersals and interconnections based on tracing isolated anatomical or genetic features in fragmentary fossils,” said study co-author Erik Trinkaus, PhD, a physical anthropology professor at Washington University in St. Louis.
“It suggests, instead, that the later phases of human evolution were more of a labyrinth of biology and peoples than simple lines on maps would suggest.”
The study, forthcoming in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, is based on recent micro-CT scans revealing the interior configuration of a temporal bone in a fossilized human skull found during 1970s excavations at the Xujiayao site in China’s Nihewan Basin.
Trinkaus, the Mary Tileston Hemenway Professor in Arts & Sciences, is a leading authority on early human evolution and among the first to offer compelling evidence for interbreeding and gene transfer between Neandertals and modern human ancestors.
His co-authors on this study are Xiu-Jie Wu, Wu Liu and Song Xing of the Institute of Vertebrate Paleontology and Paleoanthropology, Beijing, and Isabelle Crevecoeur of PACEA, Université de Bordeaux.
“We were completely surprised,” Trinkaus said. “We fully expected the scan to reveal a temporal labyrinth that looked much like a modern human one, but what we saw was clearly typical of a Neandertal. This discovery places into question whether this arrangement of the semicircular canals is truly unique to the Neandertals.”
Often well-preserved in mammal skull fossils, the semicircular canals are remnants of a fluid-filled sensing system that helps humans maintain balance when they change their spatial orientations, such as when running, bending over or turning the head from side-to-side.
Since the mid-1990s, when early CT-scan research confirmed its existence, the presence of a particular arrangement of the semicircular canals in the temporal labyrinth has been considered enough to securely identify fossilized skull fragments as being from a Neandertal. This pattern is present in almost all of the known Neandertal labyrinths. It has been widely used as a marker to set them apart from both earlier and modern humans.
The skull at the center of this study, known as Xujiayao 15, was found along with an assortment of other human teeth and bone fragments, all of which seemed to have characteristics typical of an early non-Neandertal form of late archaic humans.
Trinkaus, who has studied Neandertal and early human fossils from around the globe, said this discovery only adds to the rich confusion of theories that attempt to explain human origins, migrations patterns and possible interbreedings.
While it’s tempting to use the finding of a Neandertal-shaped labyrinth in an otherwise distinctly “non-Neandertal” sample as evidence of population contact (gene flow) between central and western Eurasian Neandertals and eastern archaic humans in China, Trinkaus and colleagues argue that broader implications of the Xujiayao discovery remain unclear.
“The study of human evolution has always been messy, and these findings just make it all the messier,” Trinkaus said. “It shows that human populations in the real world don’t act in nice simple patterns.
“Eastern Asia and Western Europe are a long way apart, and these migration patterns took thousands of years to play out,” he said. “This study shows that you can’t rely on one anatomical feature or one piece of DNA as the basis for sweeping assumptions about the migrations of hominid species from one place to another.”
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The above story is based on materials provided by Washington University in St. Louis. The original article was written by Gerry Everding. Note: Materials may be edited for content and length.
znModeratorramBRO
– According to Sando, 20 of the 26 evaluators ranked Bradford in Tier 3. 3 put him in Tier 4, and one in Tier 5. Though not specifically noted, I’ll assume that 2 evaluators rated Sam in Tier 2 or higher.
– Sounds like the Tier 5 ranking may have come from another QB. According to Sando, the QB ripped into Bradford pretty good. But Sando also mentioned that this QB mentioned Sam’s rookie contract, so I’m wondering if there’s any “haterism” coloring his judgement.
– The head coach who prefers Sam to Russell Wilson says that Wilson’s height (or lack thereof) results in him missing plays from the pocket. Sure, he gets out of the pocket to make plays, but he thinks defenses will adjust to keep him inside to force him to make those throws there. Sam? The coach feels he’s at home in the pocket and will make those throws that Wilson can’t.
– Sando says that, despite the mobile QB’s out there, the personnel people he talked to place a lot of weight on QB’s who can make plays from the pocket.
Interesting listen if you get the chance.
He says the evaluators seem to be hedging their bets, they want to see him do it and so far he hasn’t. He just has the stay on the field.
znModeratorramBRO
– According to Sando, 20 of the 26 evaluators ranked Bradford in Tier 3. 3 put him in Tier 4, and one in Tier 5. Though not specifically noted, I’ll assume that 2 evaluators rated Sam in Tier 2 or higher.
– Sounds like the Tier 5 ranking may have come from another QB. According to Sando, the QB ripped into Bradford pretty good. But Sando also mentioned that this QB mentioned Sam’s rookie contract, so I’m wondering if there’s any “haterism” coloring his judgement.
– The head coach who prefers Sam to Russell Wilson says that Wilson’s height (or lack thereof) results in him missing plays from the pocket. Sure, he gets out of the pocket to make plays, but he thinks defenses will adjust to keep him inside to force him to make those throws there. Sam? The coach feels he’s at home in the pocket and will make those throws that Wilson can’t.
– Sando says that, despite the mobile QB’s out there, the personnel people he talked to place a lot of weight on QB’s who can make plays from the pocket.
Interesting listen if you get the chance.
znModeratorI thought we were going to get to the part where you accused X of reading peoples PMs..
That;s alright, I already did.
And now you are just in taunt/fight mode?
If so movc on. That’s a direct mod statement.
My summary. YOu should not have over-reacted to one line by me in email when I was blocked. If you didn’t know I was blocked you were negligent…a ghost admin is not supposed to take out a board mod on the basis of some ancient grudge. That;s bad management on your part. I apologize for calling you a dick that one time when blocked. That’s not very professional. However, I didn’t do that because I was blocked–I did it because I was frustrated because #1 I naturally assumed you had blocked me, and #2 didn’t get why you were doing that instead of just raising whatever issue you presumably had. Or, if you’re going to give in to your apparently considerable temper, you could have just banned me and given notice to the buzz posters (instead of shutting it down and re-directing posters to ROD).
My bet is, yOu won’t apologize for heavy name-calling in this thread, for reasons anyone can speculate about. Running around on the Rams board with all those (several) little (now deleted) childish attack posts was beneath you (and that’s why you were banned…not because of this thread). To emphasize: you were not banned because of THIS thread. You were banned because you took it to the Rams board and kept putting up little TheRamsWon style flames, which I deleted. IMO, an owner with high aspirations for his own great site should not be acting like a PD board style flame warrior on someone else’s site.
We expect fake handles to show up here, but as long as they obey the rules they’re fine, and when they try to re-raise the old huddle wars it’s easy for everyone to spot.
If you think all your (as yet unposted) emails and PMs somehow take the onus off of you for dumping a site without notice, fine. Think that. My view is, if you thought I was a problem long before the 28th, you should have just banned me THEN and given the buzz posters notice.
That’s it. Thread closed. It’s now a repository for posts fighting about the take-down of the buzz and which also violate the rules (though I am going to draw a line on that, because some could take advantage and start writing attack posts just so I will move them here. I don’t intend to encourage that.)
I edited this to make it less “heat of the moment.” Substance is the same.
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znModeratorLOL.. you are yet again making shit up.
Lying to my face?
Lol. Time to delete this whole conversation.
Remember to check your pm.
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znModeratorHey my fault.. Let me tell my wife and 19 mo old daughter that we shouldnt go on vacations or go out of town any longer. My APOLOGIES for not devoting all my free time to this internet forum and instead chose to spend time with my family.
My bad.
Oh come on. Lol. I wasn’t talking about recently. The thing I refer to goes back weeks and weeks. When we first started the board you sent your your phone number and said call any time. After you bought ROD you said never to call and you didn’t have time. I wasn’t talking about recently, I am talking about weeks and weeks of non-communication.
And you have a pm.
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znModeratorfair enough..
So I am now going to assume that is fair game to post all PMs and Emails because you failed to answer that question 3 times.
I did answer the question. I directly said I can’t tell you what to post. But I take that back.
Those things serve no purpose unless you want to claim that we had issues. Since you never said we did, I am only going to tell you that you should have raised them. You seem to have enough time to talk tonight after weeks of saying you didn’t.
So no you can’t post them. I don’t know what they are, who they’re from, and how they pertain to the 28th. If you feel strongly enough, email them to me. That’s where this should go anyway.
znModeratorMy work is done.
No it isn’t apparently. It got edited somehow. Don’t know when. It’s minor though. I re=posted the original in my response.
From X’s post: I blocked you from ROD because of your constant pilfering of my posts, and because of your incessant whining about being talked about by guys like Les and Thor and Albe and Boffo
That stuff about “whining” is from him reading PMs. That’s the only thing it CAN be. And it’s exaggerated nonsense. Mods had to discuss Boffo because of a board conflict. We handled it professionally. I never mentioned Thor or Les or Albe in anything behind the scenes. You raised Boffo with me when he stopped posting for a short time. I asked you if you had deleted my name from posts attacking me. Actually that was mostly old, old ROD posters doing that. I thought it was very professional of you to do that, and I emphasized that old board wars were not to lead to personal sniping on the buzz. At the time I thought that was a professional exchange between a mod and a board owner. I didn’t know a ghost admin was reading PMs and was going to spin it his own little way in public later.
This is from my original response to X, above:
I never incessantly said anything about any poster at ROD (meaning, the ex-huddlers who still post there)…I double-checked on it with Bob to ask if he had zapped out the names posters were trying to bash. I asked if he had done that, and he said yes, and I basically said good job (because we had the same policy at the buzz, basically…no old wars. At the time I thought Bob and I were friends when I asked that…and for you to know it means you were reading buzz board PMs).
znModeratorThat’s all I heard when I went to the old board. Bzzzzzzzz…
Somebody had locked the front door, and I couldn’t get in. Had a bloody cake in the oven too.
Oh, well.
Where do you guys keep the sugar and flour around here?
We;re still sorting that out. In the meanwhile, welcome back from the void.
znModeratorI hope Bailey has enough athleticism to make plays in the NFL. Without the PEDs.
That’s what he was busted for, right? PEDs not pot?
Welcome aboard old friend.
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znModeratorIf it is really killing you to get an answer from me, read the post from X again. The answer is right in front of your face.
It’s not killing ME. LOl. It’s killing YOU. Meaning, in the light of public perception. You want to come across as an honest guy who ended up in a conflict and stuff happens. But by not answering that question, you make it look like you have something to hide. By me continuing to ask, that perception gets reinforced.
I mean it looks very different if you act all outraged about being accused when in fact that’s not the real story. You hid behind “plausible denial” and knew…at least before this conversation started last night, and probably earlier…that your own board mod was blocked and he did not know why.
Puts everything in a different light.
I know what X says. I am asking YOU, directly, what YOU knew.
And you evaded it so I take it the answer is yes. Yes, you knew.
Now if we’re done with this one thing we can move on. If not…that’s okay too.
znModeratorNew here and don’t want to get in the middle of anything. But there was a board called the Buzz – I’m guessing – and it got shut down while this board still existed and this site existed before the Buzz? And the moderators here were also moderators on the Buzz? Seems confusing. If this board existed before, why not just put your energy toward it? It sounds like this site was allowed to go dormant so that the other one could replace it? Am I the only one confused?
I don’t think anyone here said the moderators at the old huddle were also the moderators at the buzz. In point of fact…a couple were. A couple weren’t.
Either way, questions about boards and board policies and board histories, as I say in this thread, should go on a different board. (In fact as soon as I can move the posts that don’t belong, I will.)
This thread http://theramshuddle.com/topic/ever-wandering-lost-tribe-of-ram-fans/ is just to welcome people here, or to say hello to the board, which beginning posters like to do. Yours is a board/s history question, and I would ask you to put in on hold just for a little bit or go to the Board Policies and Issues board and raise it there.
znModeratorLOL.. you want to talk evasion?
You just accused a guy of reading mod PMs and when I called you out on it because you misread we are just to forget about it?
Lets start from the top.
You accused me of blocking you from some sites and you were proven wrong
You accused X of reading Pms and shown to be wrongAre you just going to continue to throw shit until something sticks?
Those kinds of moves don’t work, my friend.
I said we will get to the PM issue and we will.
Now. By evading my question several times…I take it that you
1. knew I was blocked from the buzz…any time from before I emailed you to when this conversation started last night (you’re saying “you didn’t do it” does not answer “did you know it was done”; but I am taking the evasion as a “yes”).
2. knew I was blocked just from ROD the previous time.
So that’s a “yes” on your part. If that’s settled we can go on. If it’s not settled we can keep at it.
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znModeratorThere was ONE single reference to PM in that message..
“The “inconvenience” that I caused you for all of one day was for all of your lectures via PM for the things I posted and the way I posted them”
You are making some very serious accusations about a guy who simply said he was lectured by YOU to HIM via PM.
First, you’re evading the question. We can get to X in the course of the conversation. I will be happy to do that.
Am I just to take evasion as “yes”?
You knew I was blocked from the buzz…either before I emailed you or after or at least before this conversation started in this thread.
You knew I was blocked from ROD several weeks back.
Another evasion and I will just assume a “yes.”
znModeratorWhere do you come up with this shit? Now X was reading PMs?
You ever answer questions or is every discussion always about you asking the questions and everyone is supposed to respond accordingly.
And BTW..unlike you, I HAVE apologized to some members directly via PM.
Reading PMs? He says so himself. Read his post.
No your real frustration is that you can’t control this conversation. You can ask all the questions you want–you began with one. Will I apologize? Me saying I shouldn’t have done it apparently not counting for you. And then you added name-calling of your own to it, which I doubt you will apologize for.
And I am asking a very important question. You have not answered it twice now. Just answer it so we can move on and both get some honest closure out of this. I used to trust you and we worked together well. I liked what we did. I don’t like this impasse. I would rather go back to the former relationship, where communication was not hard. If you can’t hear that, then you never knew me.
But it’s a simple question. Did you know X blocked me from the buzz, or the previous time from ROD. That’s actually two questions, and they’re fair.
znModeratorHonestly, it depends on how the team plays. If I think they shoulda won more and gave games away, that’s one thing…if the schedule and the division are as tough as they look and they give us pride with how they compete, then it’s a different thing.
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znModeratorI DIDNT BLOCK YOU FROM ANYTHING.
Do I condone the actions by X? Your damn right I do.
Yes I asked RM to ban him. He would not get off attack mode so I deleted a couple of posts. The thing is, there can be a one-time exception as people sort out what happened on the 28th–there are a lot of upset posters who suddenly with no warning found themselves without a board. But it has to stop sometime.
Did you know I was blocked? You already say you condone it, which is half of the story. (See saying YOU personally didn’t do it is simply an evasion when the question is whether you knew about it. Assuming that’s even true and it actually happened the way X said.)
For that matter, did you know about it the first time it happened, when I was just blocked from ROD (that was about the time when you bought ROD, the buzz went down with a virus soon after, and then came back up minus many features, including the Rieker donations, and when I asked about them, your response was to say you could just take the board down. I was blocked from ROD round about then.)
And my question to you was not if X is in on all of your sites, the question is whether you informed me, your partner, that he was not only an admin but was reading PMs and according to him blocking people. You think you should have been trusted implicitly…but did I really know how the buzz worked if an outside party was reading mod PMs, later to talk about them in public. Don’t be so defensive…this one is a minor issue.
You keep raising the level of provocations, including trying to get in a dig at me when you apologized to all the posters whose site you blew up. So you didn’t really take responsibility for anything. It was sort of “I am sorry and it’s his fault.” And then on to the name-calling we’re not supposed to do because it’s so wrong.
ER’s post stands because X’s post stands. That’s my call. Unless the other mods want me to take down both. Or for that matter, a couple by you, too.
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znModeratorHuge Akmann
Just read a tweet from Steadman Bailey saying he’s heading to OK in the morning for some workout sessions with Bradford. This is something Bradford hosts every summer with his receivers.
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STEDMAN BAILEY SR @iamSB3 · 2h
Flight out to Oklahoma in the AM to link with Sammy B for some workout sessions! #ChemistryActually all I see so far is Bailey doing it…don’t know if it’s others too.
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znModeratorShould I hold my breath waiting for an apology?
I said several times throughout the thread I shouldn’t have name-called you. Go back and look. Not sure what else you want.
But then in spite of your denial, I WAS blocked. So let’s begin one small step and see how it goes. X said I WAS blocked (like I knew I was). Did you know about that or not, and do you condone that or not now that it’s completely public?
Either X did it like he said, without your knowledge…which means you were running a site where someone could do that (plus read mod PMs and talk about them in public). Or you knew X did it. Or he’s just covering for you.
Did I ever know I was running a site where someone other than you was reading mod PMs and could block whoever he wanted? Did I know that was the deal I signed on to? How does that sit with you? We fell apart because of distrust. How does something like that contribute to distrust?
You could give an honest answer, or you could do more zn bashing. But that rings hollow because I asked you to partner up on a site in the first place because you had already invited me to front one for you (that happened when you were impatient with RM because at that point the huddle kept going down). You had known me since the herd. You had known me on the huddle. When my solution to the huddle wars was to make a new site, that was fine with you…and you saw the huddle wars while they were happening. (To the point where you even told me on the buzz that Arsenic was Pancake). Your idea, as you kept telling me, was to have the biggest, most advanced Rams board, and you clearly thought you could do that with me–you even said so, and praised the board (until you bought ROD). That’s all completely understandable, but as I said all the subsequent zn bashing rings completely hollow now.
Let’s see how this goes. Did you know I was blocked, and/or do you condone it now that it’s completely public?
July 7, 2014 at 4:05 pm in reply to: How St. Louis Rams Quietly Built NFL's Most Dangerous Defensive Line #1044znModeratorWhat the past regimes lacked, on the other hand, was the ability to coach up the lesser talents and get the most out of them. That’s one area where the current coaching staff separates itself from its predecessors.
I would say that’s not true. The previous regime did get things out of Hall, Long, and Robbins. They had a huge leap in DL performance improvement from 2009-2010…Football Outsiders said it was the biggest leap they had ever seen since fist doing that kind of analysis.
However, Waufle is superlative. Above and beyond. That doesn’t make what came before bad, it just means Waufle is THAT good.
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znModeratorThat was a great game and it’s a shame they ended in a tie.
Bradford was 26 of 39 (in 5 quarters) for 275 yards (67.7%, 7.05 YPA) and 2 TDs, with passes of 14 to Jackson, 15 and 16 to Amendola, 17 and 19 to Kendricks, 14 and 24 to Gibson, and 36 to Quick (though I don’t know much of that was RAC yards). I like that kind of middle range passing attack, though, again, I don’t know without re-watching how much of that was RAC. He also had an 80 yarder to Amendola subtracted by a penalty.
The Rams also ran 37 times for 159 yards (4.3 YPC).
I don;t know how strictly indicative that game will be, but, it would be nice if things work like that.
znModeratorSo X was the Dick. RM wouldn’t sell us out because well X is a dick . Most left the Huddle because of Thordaddy being a dick. X let Bob take the heat for him which is very high on the dickish scale. So the Huddle basically went out on it’s own got rid of the dicks (the goal when we left the herd) and now we are back home with out the dicks . Nice work Dick!
Sigh. Sooner or later we have to get back to order and the Rams, ER. As a rule we shouldn’t be doing any of this stuff—naming posters, attacking old warriors. Just go forward. Thor, for example, is ill…I wish him the best, frankly. People can move on and change.
But…under the circumstances…as long as it doesn’t leave this thread…it doesn’t feel right to delete it. Not if X’s post stands (and X’s post in this thread will stand.) And this isn’t a “warning.” Just a hope. Let’s go on and be better than this. Fair enough?
znModeratorX
So now you know. I was able to block you from both sites, and I did. I blocked you from ROD because of your constant pilfering of my posts, and because of your incessant whining about being talked about by guys like Les and Thor and Albe and Boffo. So out of sight, out of mind, yeah? I blocked you from The Buzz because I felt like it. I’ve always had administrative access to both sites, even after I sold ROD. I knew when Bob was going to be away, and I’ve been planning on nuking you for a few years now. So I did. Not unlike Samir Suleiman, I’m a fucking throat slasher. And you deserved all of it.
The fact that you petulantly demanded satisfaction without knowing the full story is just typical of your past, present, and future behavior. Bob hooked you up BIG TIME, and you repay him by calling him a dick? Who the hell do you think you are? The “inconvenience” that I caused you for all of one day was for all of your lectures via PM for the things I posted and the way I posted them. That was for turning every good poster into a shitty poster because you lack even a rudimentary understanding of how to speak to people without condescension. Les, Thor, Albe, Boffo … those are all genuinely good and interesting people that you turned into assholes because you can never, ever, ever, humble yourself and see another person’s point of view OR take even the slightest bit of criticism and gain a little introspection from it. But mostly, it was because you decided to turn on me one day before I even knew who the fuck you were. And I forget nothing. I’ve been stringing you along for years now. Pretending to be your friend, taking shots at you, apologizing to get you on the hook again, taking shots at you, apologizing, dogging you, apologizing, and so on and so on and so on. You. Are. My. Puppet. My greatest revenge comes this day, “Rick.”
So here’s my advice to you going forward. Shut the fuck up and listen once in a while. Don’t challenge people’s intellect because you think yours is superior. Don’t make the mistake of thinking everyone is forgiving, and stop leeching off of other people to get what you want. But most of all, take a goddamn look in the mirror. You’ve been ostracized from every board not named the PD, and for good reason. Dozens upon Dozens of people registered and left The Huddle because of you. You alone. A jury of your peers booted you off of ROD, and The Herd still mocks you to this day. You want a place to call home so that you can stop being the leader of the martyred flock of the internet? Buy one. Register the name, “ZNsWorld.tv” and pony up $8.95 a month to host your own site. Push a goddamn button to install a board, and lord over it like the creepy pie eating internet fascist you are.
For the rest of you who thought I was a decent guy, and was trying to help? Nah. I tried to buy The Huddle from RM, but he never responded to any of my emails. I was going to make that board great and ban the one guy responsible for destroying it. Some of you would have followed him through the gates of Hell I’m sure, but many of you would have noticed that the guys who were “ALLEGEDLY” responsible for its demise are actually the ones who have the personality to make a board click. And without them, that board died. I realize most of you are happy with a small community revolving around ZN and the face he shows you in public. I get that. But if you were ever exposed to the other face? The one that puffs out his chest behind the scenes because he can’t STAND being anything other than the center of attention and the sole voice of authority? Well, you’d know you were being duped.
Ban me now. I have no desire to respond to the inevitable victim speech that’s sure to follow.
My work is done.
Rules violating posts by you in the future will get torched. This post will stand though. It’s really a testimony to a lot of things. Including your own essentially vindictive spirit. Even if it’s one big game for you.
I will call you on a couple of your misconceptions and bs. And this will not lead to an argument. That WILL get nuked. No responses–you just posted the most petty attack post this community has seen since the old huddle war days, and you don’t get to continue with it. I never incessantly said anything about any poster at ROD (meaning, the ex-huddlers who still post there)…I double-checked on it with Bob to ask if he had zapped out the names posters were trying to bash. I asked if he had done that, and he said yes, and I basically said good job (because we had the same policy at the buzz, basically…no old wars. At the time I thought Bob and I were friends when I asked that…and for you to know it means you were reading buzz board PMs). I never “stole” anything from you and all boards copy posts, including ROD. But I did ask people to not copy mine, and if this is your way of doing the same, so be it. I didn’t petulently demand anything… I knew I was blocked and thought Bob was doing it for a reason. I wanted to know the reason, so we could have honest communication. What does one do when one is blocked and they know it, recite hindu prayers? Turns out, either you were his proxy or you’re covering for him or you just used him in a set up. If anything you said is even true. It doesn’t matter much if it is or not. Either way, he crashed a whole board community because of it.
The one thing I do want to stress is that describing my FRIENDS as “followers” is just a piece of projection on your part.
We have a board, X. That’s all that matters. You haven’t “gotten” anybody. But think so if you want. Shrug.
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znModeratorBut then I don’t know why I was blocked and if you can’t see it’s natural to assume you’re the one who did it…then I don’t know what to tell you. Who else could have blocked me from both sites?
Plus I was blocked from ROD before…weeks ago. I have no idea why I was blocked then and no idea why I was subsequently unblocked…but I let it go. I just thought it was you and you had some issue but I wasn’t going to ask (being blocked from ROD was not high on my list of problems).
Well, I could have blocked you from both sites, because I have administrative access to the server.
Well obviously I didn’t know that. Did you? If so, why? If not, what is a good explanation for me being blocked?
znModerator“My frustration came from a long drawn out process where I couldn’t do my job”
Really one day was a long drawn out process when I told you the next day I was out of town?
“Now if you had said calm down, let’s figure it out, and I still went off? Then you might have a point.”
You didnt give me but ONE DAY to respond to you.
“Heck even if you went nuke it should have just been to me. The board never did anything. I was just frustrated cause I couldn’t work on it.”
We both know how this would have played out. You would have gone around claiming that yet once again you have been wronged by yet another message board and you were misunderstood.
Out of curiousity how many message boards have you been banned from?
I was just trying to figure things out. All you had to do was go okay I haven’t been around calm down, give me time. Or if you went nuke go–I can’t work with this guy, our temperaments don’t mesh, I’ll ban him and notify the site it’s going down. Either way.
And as for your continual sliding into insults…that was all personal. (Notice I am not doing that.) No, I what I said was, Bob had a right to take down the board and no complaint. I was happy to leave it at that and preferred to leave it at that. I don’t know what stirred THIS up. It should have stayed there, where I had left it.
In fact, what did I ever say about the old huddle wars? Only that they should not be brought up, that they were over, that posters from other sites should not be attacked, that anyone was free to post on the buzz if they followed the rules, that bringing up old wars served no purpose. (All that’s true of the new huddle too btw).
Meanwhile, it’s really over here. You’re just repeating yourself…you’re incensed that I name-called you, and apologize for taking it out on the community. I’m just repeating myself…I had every reason to think I was blocked, was just asking you to communicate why, and have since said more than once that no I shouldn’t have name-called.
That’s an impasse. Let’s agree to disagree and drop it.
Any particular reason why X has his post being held in moderation?
Cause all first posts are held in moderation. If it’s held for a while, it;s invariably because a mod hasn’t spotted it yet. I write about that here: http://theramshuddle.com/forum/rams-huddle/
And now that I realize I am the only mod on duty I will look for pending posts.
znModeratorSo I am supposed to temper my frustration while your frustration goes unchecked.. Am I reading that right?
No lol you;re not reading that right. You got frustrated at one word. I got frustrated at an hours long process where I was blocked from the 2 sites you own…AND had been blocked before.
Now if you had said calm down, let’s figure it out, and I still went off? Then you might have a point.
My frustration came from a long drawn out process where I couldn’t do my job. And that’s with a guy who had not communicated for a long time, and once when I asked about minor issues with the board, openly threatened to take it offline. (Whereupon for the sake of the community I just went okay nevermind.) Plus of course I had been blocked at ROD before (and still don’t know why and for that matter still don’t know why I was UNblocked.)
Yours came from a word you thought was loaded with all this disrespect (it wasn’t) and you blew up an entire site over it.
The simpler thing, if you hadn’t blocked me, was just to go “calm down we’ll fix it.” You didn’t have to go nuclear on it.
Heck even if you went nuke it should have just been to me. The board never did anything. I was just frustrated cause I couldn’t work on it.
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znModerator; Maybe you were blocked or maybe your OS updated itself and blocked you or your anti-virus software or a million other things on the high tech end. You got frustrated and called Bob a dick. We don’t know what he was going through at the time might have been a straw/camel’s back thing or it might all be bullshit but at this point It don’t really matter. There’s a reason boards are offered FREE and that is no one would pay for it. Could’ve been someone didn’t like your comments on board wars going on around that time but as you said lets move on.
Well, first, I thought of those things ER. Except why would I be blocked only at those 2 sites. And why am I still blocked at ROD. (Actually in effect I am still blocked at the buzz, cause it still times out when I try that URL and actually I have never seen the 404 notice personally).
And of course maybe I was going through things at the time and being blocked seemed weird and got to me.
BUT in essence, this is the crux.
I was blocked at 2 sites. Both owned by the same guy. I spend all day asking why that was going on.
How important is any of that NOW? Not very. Remember, I didn’t want to discuss any of this. I said Bob has the right to take the site down and that’s that. I think other parties upped the ante on it a bit. It happens that way sometimes.
Should I have called Bob a dick, even if I thought he blocked me over some issues he wasn’t talking abut and was ignoring questions about it? No. I already said that a couple of times. Should he have nuked a whole site without notice over it? No.
Is that our agree to disagree impasse point?
Next time I am blocked from a site I moderate I will be more polite in how I ask about it? Sure.
Next time Bob gets pissed off at a frustrated guy who has good reason to think he’s blocked will he refrain from nuking an entire site without notice? Hopefully.
Meanwhile, ROD goes on, the huddle goes on, it’s over.
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