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    That was a satisfying victory because we did not get in rhythm passing and it didn’t matter. Gonna run through it as quick as I can … trying to focus more on college stuff ..

    The Great

    1) Gurley is so good that no none can “get us away form the run” … because his YPC is off the charts. He is best RB I’ve ever seen …

    2) William Hayes making CL Proud!!!!!

    3) Our DBs, including the spur Barron and nickel Joyner, may be the best group in the NFL. Jenks and Tru are both playing shutdown games, and McDonald and McLeod are really punishing people.

    4) Double mention on Barron … he could play that spot. I like him there making 16 tackles a game.

    The Good

    5) Fairley’s hustle on the Fumble.

    6) Donald at 4.5 sacks …

    7) Austin’s TWO downfield blocks that sprung TG2.

    8) Marquez actually flattened inside inside the goal to keep himself from touching the ball on the downed punt. Really aware.

    The Bad

    9) Britt missed a hot read, and Cook … well .. yeah.

    10) Stedman the facemask? why?

    11) GZ you are a random dude. One of these days you need to kick one of those 60+ yarders straight.

    That’s the least amount I’ve done … think most of the stuff was covered though. I miss anything major?

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    Monday Wrap-Up: Correcting the Offensive Issues

    Myles Simmons

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Monday-Wrap-Up-Correcting-the-Offensive-Issues/5c53c316-0f5f-4826-940a-318f45202e0a

    The Rams have received outstanding production from running back Todd Gurley over their last three games, but the rest of the offense has not fared quite so well.

    That said, St. Louis has won two of those three games — including Sunday’s 24-6 victory over Cleveland — and it’s always easier to correct things after a win than a loss. Head coach Jeff Fisher said that was part of his message to the team as it went through the film on Monday.

    “We’re going to continue to work on it. Players understand,” Fisher said. “We took advantage of the film study and review time to move forward in preparation for the 49ers. So that’s been kind of the theme today is, let’s get things corrected, and get better, and go play San Francisco.”

    As Fisher has talked about before this season, he said in his Monday press conference the Rams’ two most significant offensive issues are getting more first downs and converting third-down opportunities. On Sunday, they netted 16 first downs but were just 1-of-9 in third-down efficiency.

    That’s why the onus falls on the entire unit to improve production.

    “We need to do better across the board offensively,” Fisher said. “Getting open, creating opportunities for [receivers] to get open, and then making the throws.”

    That’s especially because Fisher said teams have already started placing more men in the box to try to defend Gurley.

    “Arizona did it. Green Bay did it. And so did Cleveland,” Fisher said. “We’ve got to do more with [Gurley’s] teammates around him. We’ve got to get more production out of the other players and get the ball down the field. Take advantage of that and that’s what we’re working on.”

    GOING NO HUDDLE

    The offense did get going after halftime, particularly when the team elected to speed up the tempo. The Rams do not utilize much of their no-huddle offense, but did so effectively in the second half on Sunday.

    “We sped the tempo up just a little bit in the second half and that helped us a little bit,” Fisher said. “Nick was good with that. That doesn’t mean we’re going to do it this week, but it was a good adjustment as far as most of the third quarter was concerned.”

    Foles said after the game he’s comfortable going no huddle, as he has a long history with it from high school, to college, to the pros. And Fisher said the quarterback made good adjustments with it throughout the third quarter.

    “He got together with the offense and said, ‘These are the things we’re going to do. Let’s go do it.’ He did it,” Fisher said of Foles. “So, yeah, it’s good. I mean, we work on it. It’s a two-minute offense. We work on in it in practice.”

    AUSTIN’S BLOCKING

    Wide receiver Tavon Austin was one of the players instrumental in getting the offense in a rhythm, though not necessarily the way one would assume. He has been productive throughout the year, and continued that trend Sunday even though he like was not 100 percent, according to Fisher. The wideout had been listed as questionable due to a hamstring injury.

    “That’s a sign of a real pro, the way he handled himself,” Fisher said.

    Austin still took an end around for 21 yards, and made four receptions for 43 yards to lead the team. But it was his run blocking that really stood out. Listed at 5-foot-8 and 176 pounds, Austin hit some blocks on Gurley runs that probably made him feel much larger to Cleveland defenders — particularly on the running back’s 48-yard run and 16-yard touchdown.

    “I think it’s a message to our receivers that they need to learn how to block like Tavon,” Fisher said. “Tavon’s a good blocker.”

    FLIPPING THE GUARDS

    With Garrett Reynolds inserted into the starting lineup with Rodger Saffold on injured reserve, rookie Jamon Brown flipped back over from left to right guard for Sunday’s contest. Fisher said he thought the switch worked out well for the most part for both Reynolds and Brown.

    “JB’s problems that he had were more of the matchup against the defensive talent level versus the fact that he had moved from left to right, so he’ll be fine,” Fisher said, complimenting Browns’ defensive lineman Randy Starks.

    The head coach added much of the reason for the switch was the communication factor between Reynolds and left tackle Greg Robinson.

    “Greg’s a long ways away from things out there at left tackle, so it’s good to have Garrett in there communicating with him,” Fisher said.

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    Jeff Fisher Victory Speech vs. Cleveland

    Head coach Jeff Fisher addresses the team following its Week 7 win over the Cleveland Browns.

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/videos/videos/Jeff-Fisher-Victory-Speech-vs-Cleveland/d2d15c2d-7bb6-439b-9cdf-a5a88a39ff2c

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    But no pics–my wife even complains that I’m not a photo guy.

    First off, I want to THANK SignMan124 for allowing me to join his tailgate at Gate A before the game. Great time, met several Rams fans. I was a bit sad to hear that very few HERD members join the party there anymore. Not going there any further. Again, thanks SignMan124! Appreciate it!

    The game was a Father’s Day gift from my family and my son-in-law’s family, so they flew both me and my son-in-law’s father, who is a Brown’s fan, but had never been at an NFL game before. He’s from Utah. Yes, the end disappointed him, but he had a great time. My first 2 Rams’ games were losses, 24-23 to the Bears in Chicago on a Monday night in Joe Namath’s last game, and in the Dome to the Seahawks 17-9 in 1997 when Tony Banks tired to stop the clock by throwing it into the turf with 0:00 on the clock. Since then, it’s Rams 6 wins and 1 loss!

    Sat in section 145, 19 rows up, right on the north end zone line. Helped to listen to ESPN 101.1 FM during the game. The radio guys predicted Rams 24-14, saying “The Rams win comfortably” and that “Cleveland is due for a stinker offensively.” Someone on the radio also said the Rams needed to “keep pounding the rock.” Wow, how did fans at the game keep up before the big screens and ref mics?

    I was worried there wouldn’t be much turnout because 12 minutes before kickoff, the stadium only looked 1/3 full. Within minutes, it appeared to fill about 80-85% full. Lots of Browns fans, but I’m not sure there were anymore opponents’ fans than in previous years.

    Defense introduced. There were flames but no fireworks today. Live and learn.

    The national anthem was by an opera singer. That last high note was shrill and uncomfortable. My reading glasses did stay intact.

    My first surprise was the handoff on the opening KO, right in front of us. Must admit my fear factor gauge got turned on, thinking we would start at the 5 or something. A lot of dog barking followed, but by half-time, that noise was gone.

    First series, 3 and out. Sigh. A lot of grumbling by the fans around me at that early point.

    Soon after, the party got started. Jenkins caused the fumble and Macleod returns for the TD! Rumble!

    Then Hayes gets his first sack and Rams fumble recovery! Party harder! Must say I was very surprised I could see the other end of the field so well from our level.

    Another surprise—Gurley gets 5 yards on his first carry, and nary a peep out of the Rams faithful. Could it be that the fans are already expecting a lot more? Then another 3 and out for the Rams. Another sigh. But it’s 10-0, a nice head start.

    Seemed that the Browns were making good on a lot of 3rd and longs. Feast or famine with this defense.

    Gurley had another surprise—he can jump over people!

    The Rams downed the punt at the 1 just in front of us. Looked good to me, but when the refs huddled after that, again, the fear factor gauge turned on, but it stayed good for the blue team by moving the ball up to the 4.

    The next punt return by Tavon looked like he had a huge hole, but he was tripped up at the ankle. But it meant great field position—do something with it! False start, crowd goes quiet. Tavon drops a pass, some groans. The receivers sure weren’t helping; they just seemed to be jogging out there.

    9:00 left before halftime, and the Rams have 9 yards rushing—yep, that’s pounding the rock. But many fans were ready to pound the floor in frustration.

    Then the Browns started the false starts that continued on, and it started when the fans started to make noise on 3rd downs. I’ve heard louder in the Dome, but believe me, it did get loud. Someone showed up!

    Before halftime, Gurley gave us a taste of what was to come. His 15 yard run showed some great feetwork. Now the O is moving right in front of us. Red zone cake. TD soon. Someone named Cook quickly blew the candles out by fumbling the ball. Up to that point, it was the only decent Rams drive.

    What about all the Rams defensive offsides? The radio announcer said the Browns center was moving the ball slightly before the snap. Guess it wasn’t just the Rams who got some breaks from the refs, which my friend said was from the refs eating the Rams’ “home cooking.” LOL!

    Then Aaron Donald gets into the backfield really quick for a one arm tackle on the back for a 5 yard loss. He almost took the handoff before the back did.

    Gurley then gets a great run where he is just dragging people. And he just doesn’t look that big to me.

    Halftime, Cleveland 139 yards, Rams 108 yards. NFL defense 1960’s style. 2nd half HAS to be Gurley time! I mean, Miami has already scored 45 points before halftime, and that’s with a new coach. Hmmmm……

    Then Cleveland comes out hot from halftime, moving quickly down the field, but ends in a field goal. Good thing we have the 2nd ranked red zone defense. 10-6, too close for comfort.

    Then Gurley runs on off for 47 yards to the 22—crowd goes wild! Now it’s time! All of a sudden, Gurley has a 9.3 yard/carry average.

    Foles sacked, and the dog pound sounds are the loudest of the day. Well, maybe they were louder on the resulting missed FG. Got to be kidding me.

    The no-huddle starts and the O gets hotter. A long pass to Britt—was he in? No, I was sitting on the goal line and even across the field I could see he was short. But all that did was lead to Gurley’s first NFL TD—and right in front of me! First of many to come! A lot of looseness in the defensive huddle right after that. Hopefully, they don’t get too loose. But at that point the Rams started to leave the middle wide open and the Browns took advantage.

    On O, the Rams finally start pounding the rock, by both Tavon and Gurley. The handwriting is on the wall and the fans can sense it. Gurley TD on the other end of the field. #2 for his career.

    There’s more action, even Johnny TD gets in, but it’s over. Rams kneel, and the Gurley, Tavon, defense show is over. Rams 24, Browns

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    Zuerlein has been a bit of a tease lately. Can we get a passing game with passes to our WRs?

    They did in the 2nd half. Plays to Britt and Tavon led to Foles getting 11 YPR in that half, which of course is tops. If it weren’t for Cook’s fumble the results would have been better. It’s not the GSOT but it’s a start.

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    bump because I am greedy for more

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    I think you offer a fair take and there’s a lot I agree with, but I do not agree with this:

    There’s been too much failure in building the OL and too much neglect of the WRs

    First, they didn’t fail to build an OL, they built one. There are good reasons why PFF ranked the Rams OL 13th in 2013 (which to me means pretty good, effective) and ranked Long 7th among all OTs. I take PFF rankings as “more or less” and to me that was more or less right. It was a line that allowed them to play some good teams tough with an offense consisting of Clemens and Stacy. Stacy has not reproduced anything he did in 2013 since, with the Rams or anyone else, so I take it his production was mostly on the OL.

    What killed that line was injuries, both in 2013 and 2014.

    What they have now of course is a young, inexperienced line, and I don’t even think it will take until next year for it to become decently stable. I think considering what it is, it’s already ahead of schedule.

    In terms of the receivers? Quick stepped up in 2014 and has not yet come back from the injury. Several receivers have all slipped at the same time, but since it is so many, that tells me it’s a systemic thing, not talent. If Britt and Kendricks were even as good as they were last year, for example, that would help solidify things. Tavon, in contrast, has been playing better than he ever has.

    I never liked Cook but even he can settle down.

    A combination of a young, inexperienced OL and a new qb? It’s actually doing better in a lot of respects than we had a right to expect.

    So I don’t agree they failed to build an OL…I think injuries caused them to LOSE an OL, and forced them to start over.

    I think the entire offense improves enough to be a decent contributor to a winning season. That’s just this year. To me the Cleveland game didn’t add anything…I’ve felt that way since the Arizona game. And besides, I never really bought the idea that this team always fell through against moderate to weak opponents. If you do the numbers on that, that’s mostly 2014…in 2012 and 2013, they don’t have those kinds of collapses at the rate they did in 2014. But then to me, 2014 was all about the qbs and injury diminished OL.

    I won’t convince you, probably, which is fine. It’s interesting to get different views out there, in fact it’s probably the whole point of discussions like this.

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    Well, that’s quite a heavy burden you’re placing on me. I’ll certainly need a pay raise. Stock options are acceptable.

    Well. There’s pie.

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    It was interesting to hear the post game comments from the Brown’s local analysts.

    They thought that Cleveland was over matched in every phase of the game.

    They were surprised at how the Rams Dline overwhelmed what the local reporters felt was a very good Oline.

    They saw the Rams D as beating up the Brown’s O, and just the general physical level of play.

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    Browns vs. Rams analysis

    http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/browns-vs-rams-analysis-nate-ulrich-breaks-down-24-6-loss-1.635333

    What went right: Strong safety Donte Whitner forced tight end Jared Cook to fumble at the Browns’ 15-yard line, setting up free safety Jordan Poyer for the recovery with 4:22 left in the first half and thwarting a drive by the Rams.

    What went wrong: Where should we start? Starting quarterback Josh McCown suffered a right shoulder injury and might not be able to play next week. He accounted for two of the Browns’ four lost fumbles. They failed to score a touchdown. They committed 11 penalties — six on the offensive line, two on the tight ends, two on the defense and one on special teams — for 98 yards. The defense has yet to stop the run, and fans at the Edward Jones Dome were chanting the name of Rams rookie running back Todd Gurley in the second half because he dominated the Browns.

    The bottom line: If McCown misses time because of his injured throwing shoulder, Johnny Manziel will start Sunday against the Arizona Cardinals with the NFL’s investigation into his Oct. 12 fight with his girlfriend hanging over his head.

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    Cleveland Browns in big trouble after being beaten physically and emotionally in St. Louis

    http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2015/10/cleveland_browns_in_big_troubl.html#incart_river

    ST. LOUIS — Josh McCown sounded like a man trying to talk with a swollen jaw. That’s because the Browns quarterback was belted in the jaw as he was knocked to the artificial turf.

    He also banged his right elbow into a wall. His right shoulder is a problem, too.

    Then there was coach Mike Pettine, whose voice was raspy, punctuated with some concerned head shakes.

    “It’s a pretty simple formula to lose,” he said. “Turn the ball over three times, it results in 17 points. Commit 10 penalties, and a lot of them were self inflicted…”

    It was a very grim Sunday for his team, losing 24-6 in St. Louis. The Browns sounded emotionally drained. They also looked and felt very black and blue after facing the Rams’ relentless and often overpowering defense.

    Safety Jordan Poyer left the locker room with his arm in a sling from a shoulder injury. Poyer was starting for Tashaun Gipson, who has missed the last three games with an ankle injury.

    Tight end Gary Barnidge had a tooth knocked out and took stitches in his lip at halftime. He kept playing and finished with six catches and 101 yards. Receiver Andrew Hawkins has a concussion.

    As for McCown, it hurt to watch him stand at the podium and try to talk.

    “Josh, how did it feel to hit the wall?” someone asked.

    “It didn’t feel good,” he said.

    Nothing did for the Browns on this day.

    QUESTIONS HANGING OVER TEAM

    The Browns are 2-5 and full of question marks that border on doubt.

    It’s hard to imagine McCown being ready for next Sunday’s game against Arizona after all the shots that he took. He was sacked four times, knocked down another four times. He was under mental duress for four quarters.

    If McCown is out, Johnny Manziel will start. Is he ready? He is talented enough? This may be a chance to find out, but it’s a very tough spot for the second-year quarterback.
    The Browns are now 2-5 and full of question marks that border on doubt.

    “I hope people have not given up on me,” said Manziel, meaning the fans.

    Manziel should not worry about that. Fans are always willing to embrace any quarterback who brings even the slightest semblance of hope.

    IT’S MORE THAN THE QUARTERBACK

    At the end of the first quarter, the Rams had three yards of offense and a 10-0 lead! That’s because two Browns fumbles led to a touchdown and a field goal in their first two possessions.

    Travis Benjamin blew a block that led to Taylor Gabriel being blind-sided after catching a short pass and fumbling. Safety Rodney McLeod picked up the ball and bolting 20 yards for a touchdown.

    On their next possession, McCown was hit and fumbled. The Rams recovered. That set up a field goal.

    As for the rest of the game, the Browns never could find the end zone. The offensive line was physically dominated and shaken by the crowd noise. The Browns were flagged four times for false starts. They were penalized four times for holding penalties.

    That happens when you’re being bullied by the opposing defense.

    A HUGE CHALLENGE

    For the Browns, the biggest obstacle will be not to think, “Here we go again.”

    The team started last season with a 7-4 record, but lost its last five. Pettine was hoping for a quick start this year, but they are 2-5. So for those players here in 2014, they now have lost 10 of 12.

    The Browns still have five games left with AFC North opponents. That’s a major obstacle. But so is the culture the Browns want to change.

    I didn’t detect a lack of effort Sunday. But there was a real deficit when it came to confidence. That happens when the losses pile up.

    “We were just shooting ourselves in the foot,” McCown said of the turnovers.

    Right now, the Browns are limping emotionally, and that can be very hard to heal until a few wins come along.

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    It was interesting to hear the post game comments from the Brown’s local analysts.

    They thought that Cleveland was over matched in every phase of the game.

    They were surprised at how the Rams Dline overwhelmed what the local reporters felt was a very good Oline.

    They saw the Rams D as beating up the Brown’s O, and just the general physical level of play.

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    I promise this thing is a staple of his. As I said you can see it if you watch college highlights.

    Echoing the first post. Here’s college highlights. Look for the plays at 0.55, 2.29, & 2.45 in, they show the same thing.

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    That’s an interesting topic. You up for doing weekly updates?

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    Now three straight with 125+ yards. If he does it again Sunday vs. San Francisco he’ll be one of 13 players ever with 4+ consecutive 125+ yard rushing games. The list:

    6- Chris Johnson, Eric Dickerson, Early Campbell
    5- Larry Johnson, Clinton Portis, Barry Sanders, OJ Simpson
    4- Frank Gore, Clinton Portis, Terrell Davis, Marcus Allen, Otis Armstrong

    By the way, Steven Jackson had 3 straight 125+ yard rushing games three times- 2006, 2009 and 2011…

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    http://theramshuddle.com/topic/reporters-salute-the-browns-game/#post-32967

    We emphasize getting the ball back, making short fields for the offense, not letting them beat us deep,” defensive tackle Michael Brockers said.

    That kind of emphasizes what they do on D, and the numbers…both good and bad…in this thread reflect that.

    Another thing.

    On the last bit. Here is their avg. points per game, and their score v. the Rams:

    Arizona-33.8…22 v. Rams
    Green Bay-27.3…24 v. Rams
    Pittsburgh-24.2…12 v. Rams
    Cleveland-23.5…6 v. Rams

    avg-27.2…17 v. Rams

    ..

    Okay expanding that.

    Here;s those teams avg. turnovers per game, v. their turnoves against the Rams:
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    Arizona-1.7, ranked 21st…3 v. Rams
    Green Bay-0.7, ranked 3rd…3 v. Rams
    Pittsburgh-0.5, ranked 1st…1 v. Rams
    Cleveland-1.8, ranked 25th…4 v. Rams

    avg. 1.2…2.75 v. Rams

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    Was very exciting to watch this one live.

    We show at the Dome about half way through the first Q. Look at screen, 7-0 Rams, all is well!

    Crowd was maybe 4/5ths? Not blatantly empty, but plenty of open seats if you were looking. Still, VERY loud for the defense!

    The buzz for Gurley was electric by both fan bases. Many chants for Gurley during the offensive snaps.

    Intermingled with chants of Kronke Sucks. The natives are getting restless.

    I didn’t see anything you didn’t on TV, so I can’t add to the game. A kid of maybe 10 was screaming Cook Sucks, so that warmed my heart. Did you see TA lay out that defender in the Gurley run? Go watch the highlights on NFL.com. Gurley run with Cook leading, wiff wiff wiff. Another Gurley run with TA out there, bam! Take a nap bitch!

    We had a blast, made it to the Oyster Bar, and it was really good. Crawfish Etouffee, crab cakes, and BBQ shrimp that might have been the best shrimp in a sauce I’ve ever had and there was nothing even remotely BBQ about it.

    What a great day. Niners are up!

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    Rams fans find their hero in Gurley

    Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-fans-find-their-hero-in-gurley/article_22697816-0f65-57df-bbba-6d3f949f5093.html

    Beleaguered on many fronts, starved for success, Rams fans suddenly have a hero to rally behind. His name is. …

    Gurley! Gurley! Gurley!

    The chant was heard on several occasions during Sunday’s 24-6 Rams victory over the Cleveland Browns at the Edward Jones Dome.

    Of course, Todd Gurley heard it, when he wasn’t busy rushing for 128 yards and his first two touchdowns as a pro, that is.

    “Yeah, it was cool,” Gurley said modestly.

    Gurley’s first home start as a St. Louis Ram was better than cool. He topped 100 yards rushing for the third consecutive start and just missed joining former Los Angeles Ram Eric Dickerson in becoming the second rookie in NFL history to rush for 140 yards-plus in three consecutive games.

    For those scoring at home, that’s 433 yards rushing in Gurley’s first three NFL starts. Coach Jeff Fisher said he’s never had a back get off to such a quick start as a rookie.

    “No, and I’ve been around some really good ones,” Fisher said. “Chris Johnson was outstanding early and Eddie George was outstanding early. I don’t recall them having the numbers after three full games like Todd has.”

    Sunday’s numbers didn’t come easy, at least not at first. Coming to town ranked last in the league in run defense, Cleveland (2-5) was revved up to stop the rookie from Georgia. After three carries, Gurley had minus-2 yards rushing. He was dropped behind the line of scrimmage by the Browns on three of his first five attempts.

    “Well, they’re stout up front,” Fisher said. “This is a big defensive front. So you saw early the tackles for losses, and the penetration. There always is an element of adjusting in your run game based on what they’re doing to your formations and things of that sort.”

    As has been the case in all three Gurley starts, the Rams’ offense started slowly before gaining steam in the second half. How slow? How about 3 yards — that’s nine measly feet — in the first quarter?

    But it didn’t matter on this Sunday because the St. Louis defense came out snarling. On quarterback Josh McCown’s first completion of the day, just three plays into Cleveland’s first offensive series, cornerback Janoris Jenkins jarred the ball loose from wide receiver Taylor Gabriel.

    Quicker than you could say “Rodney McLeod,” the Rams’ free safety swooped in for a 20-yard scoop and score. It was McLeod’s first touchdown as an NFL player and it gave the Rams a 7-0 lead just 3 minutes into the game.

    “I haven’t touched the end zone in a while, so it was a great feeling,” McLeod said. “Just to set the tone like that for the game, it was a big play.”

    And then on Cleveland’s next possession, defensive end Williams Hayes dropped McCown with a sack and a fumble that was recovered by linebacker Akeem Ayers at the Cleveland 25. The Rams converted that takeaway into a Greg Zuerlein field goal, and just like that, it was 10-0 St. Louis midway through the first quarter.

    Before all was said and done the Rams had four turnovers, all on forced fumbles. They sacked McCown four times and hit him on several other occasions, knocking him out of the game with a shoulder injury late in the fourth quarter.

    “Obviously the turnovers were the difference in the game,” Fisher said.

    Even so, Cleveland managed to hang around well into the third quarter. The Browns got on the board with a Travis Coons field goal early in the second quarter, on a 73-yard drive kept alive by back-to-back offside penalties on the Rams on third down.

    The Rams left some points on the field in the opening half, ending one scoring chance when tight end Jared Cook lost a fumble at the Cleveland 15. Another chance ended in a missed 63-yard field goal attempt by Zuerlein in the closing seconds of the half when the Rams stalled after reaching the Cleveland 45.

    “You could sense the level of frustration in the locker room at halftime — 10-3, we’re up by seven,” Fisher said. “I told ’em just to settle down and keep working at it and we’ll make some plays. Nobody try to do too much, eliminate the mistakes. Which we did.”

    But not before Cleveland opened the second half with another field goal drive to make it 10-6. Zuerlein didn’t help matters when he missed a 35-yard attempt wide right with 8½ minutes to play in the third quarter. It was only the third miss of Zuerlein’s NFL career from 35 yards or closer.

    Even though the score remained 10-6, the Rams always seemed to be in control of the game, thanks to their defense.

    With the aid of some no-huddle — yes, no-huddle — the offense finally got going. Gurley had 83 of his 128 rushing yards in the final two quarters, scoring from 1 yard out late in the third quarter for a 17-6 lead and then from 16 yards out midway through the fourth to give the Rams their 24-6 cushion.

    “Oh, it felt good to get my first two,” Gurley said. “Credit to the offensive line. Those guys did great all day. Hopefully, we can keep this thing rolling.”

    He celebrated that first NFL touchdown, which came on an uncontested stroll around left end, with an emphatic spike. Did he save the football?

    “I think it’s right here,” Gurley said to a mob of reporters, glancing back at his locker stall. “Unless one of you all got it. (Then) I’m gonna have to get it back.”

    No return was necessary.

    On the drive leading up to his second TD, the crowd could be heard chanting Gurley’s name as he converted a key third-and-1 play with a 3-yard gain to the Cleveland 23.

    Four plays later, Gurley turned the lights out on Cleveland with a nifty cutback on a 16-yard run that started out wide right.

    “That was an outside zone play,” Gurley said. “That was the first outside zone play we had run since the first quarter. I kind of saw the edge and the defenders flowing, and just cut it back.”

    Back into the end zone, helping the Rams get back to .500 at 3-3 with struggling San Francisco (2-5) coming to town next week.

    Strong defense and a strong running game mark the path to success for this team.

    “Right,” said defensive tackle Michael Brockers. “The Fisher blueprint. And you see what we can do.”

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    Gordon: Finally, the Rams’ defense has arrived

    Jeff Gordon

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/gordon-finally-the-rams-defense-has-arrived/article_7fe010ca-7600-53c5-9022-eb96f37fc03c.html

    In the not-so-distant past, Rams defenders had to sort through their game wreckage with painful locker room discussions.

    Who messed up that pass coverage? Who failed to fill that run gap? Who misunderstood the defensive call?

    But the topic was much happier for safety T.J. McDonald and hit man Mark Barron on Sunday afternoon after the Rams throttled the Cleveland Browns 24-6. They had converged simultaneously on Cleveland Browns receiver Travis Benjamin to force a fourth quarter fumble.

    McDonald arrived full speed from one side at the same time Barron flew in from the other. The ball flew out of this violent Benjamin sandwich and defensive tackle Nick Fairley hustled downfield to recover it.

    The press box statistics credited McDonald with the forced fumble. But Barron felt that he, in fact, had knocked the ball loose.

    “I’m sorry, I have to take that from you,” he said, needling his teammate.

    Perhaps, McDonald countered good-naturedly, “You could get an assist strip.”

    It was that kind of performance for the Rams’ defense. Players raced each other to deliver punishing hits and force game-changing turnovers. Who was going to get there first to cause mayhem?

    This was a dominant performance, precisely what Rams coach Jeff Fisher dreamed of when he began building this unit piece by piece. The Browns’ offense spent much of the game facing tough down-and-distance situations — and the Rams spent the afternoon teeing off on them as a result.

    So what if the Rams didn’t get their own offense going until the second half? It didn’t matter, because the Browns were going nowhere at the Edward Jones Dome.

    “Giving up six points, it’s great,” safety Rodney McLeod said. “You can’t ask for any more than that. Got turnovers. Obviously there are always things we need to work on. They kind of broke loose on a couple of runs and big pass plays. For the most part, we did a good job of getting sacks and getting our hands on the ball.”

    They yielded nothing easily in this game, which was the goal.

    “We emphasize getting the ball back, making short fields for the offense, not letting them beat us deep,” defensive tackle Michael Brockers said.

    The fun started right away. On Cleveland’s third play from scrimmage, McLeod diagnosed the Browns’ formation and anticipated a quick pass to Taylor Gabriel in the left flat.

    Cornerback Janoris Jenkins received McLeod’s cue and blew up the play, knocking the ball out of Gabriel’s hands. The ball bounced toward the sideline, giving McLeod a chance to scoop it up and race 17 yards for the touchdown.

    “I haven’t touched the end zone in a while,” McLeod said. “It was a great feeling. Just to set the tone like that for the game, it was a big play.”

    That defensive TD gave the Rams an immediate 7-0 lead. They made it 10-0 after defensive end William Hayes chopped the ball away from Browns quarterback Josh McCown, allowing linebacker Akeem Ayers to recover it.

    The punishment continued unabated for three hours. The Rams finally knocked McCown out of the game, forcing Johnny “Football” Manziel into the fray.

    The total defensive damage, according to the press box statistics: four quarterback sacks, five tackles for loss, seven quarterback hits, four forced fumbles, four recoveries and four pass defenses.

    During one Browns possession in the third quarter, the Rams’ pass pressure forced the Browns into three drive-killing offensive holding penalties.

    “Obviously they have a really good front,” McCown said. “They can create problems and they were able to do that today. As far as the penalties, we just need to get that cleaned up.”

    Playing without defensive end Chris Long — who may be sidelined for several games with his leg injury — the Rams got production from every lineman who started. Defensive end Ethan Westbrooks got a sack. Defensive Eugene Sims recovered a fumble.

    Defensive tackle Aaron Donald deflected one pass in addition to his usual disruption: a sack, a tackle for loss and two quarterback hits.

    “They have a good front, they have depth and they roll guys through,” Browns coach Mike Pettine said. “They did some good things schematically and this (noisy indoor) environment makes it difficult.”

    The Rams’ secondary was outstanding, too. McCown completed 26 of 32 passes for 270 yards, but he mostly worked underneath coverage. Rams defensive backs prevented big plays and managed to minimize yardage after catch.

    “I think this was one of our better open-field tackling days that we’ve had in a long time,” Fisher said. “We forced checkdowns and we didn’t have two guys overrunning and somebody cutting back.”

    And then there was Barron, the hybrid safety-linebacker who has moved to help fill the Alec Ogletree void. The press box statistics credited him with 10 tackles, including two for losses, and six assists.

    As for the forced fumble, we’ll have to see if the coaches agree with his claim after reviewing the tape. We know this for sure: Barron was all over the field Sunday, wreaking painful havoc on the Browns.

    “I think that is a great spot for Mark,” Jenkins said. “Hard-nosed hitter, loves to be around the ball. High energy … he makes contact with people.”

    Uh, yes, yes he does. And so do his teammates on that side of the ball. The Rams’ defense has arrived.

    Now, about that offense .

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    Rams notebook: Hayes, Westbrooks fill the void at left end

    Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-notebook-hayes-westbrooks-fill-the-void-at-left-end/article_613febc6-8ee1-5fce-87e1-4d8619e170ea.html

    Defensive end Chris Long remains on crutches following a knee injury suffered two weeks ago in Green Bay and probably won’t be in the lineup anytime soon. But judging from the work of his replacements Sunday against Cleveland, the Rams should get by just fine until Long is healthy.

    The Rams got three quarterback sacks and two forced fumbles from the left defensive end position in a 24-6 victory over the Browns at the Edward Jones Dome. Veteran Williams Hayes started in Long’s place and registered two sacks, both of which jarred the ball loose from Cleveland quarterback Josh McCown.

    The Rams recovered both fumbles, with the first leading to a field goal and the second basically icing the game late in the fourth quarter.

    “He’s playing very consistent (against) the run,” coach Jeff Fisher said. “Good pass-rush. Good pressure collapsing the pocket for us. We got good pressure on Josh today.”

    Productive days are nothing new for Hayes, who has been a valuable part of the Rams’ defensive line rotation since signing with the team in 2012 as a free agent from the Tennessee Titans.

    The Rams also got another sack from the left end position, from second-year man Ethan Westbrooks at the end of the third quarter. It was the first NFL regular-season sack for Westbrooks, who beat out former Missouri star Michael Sam for a roster spot in 2014 as an undrafted rookie from West Texas A&M.

    Westbrooks said he didn’t realize he had sacked McCown until after the play; he thought the ball had been thrown on the play.

    “I felt like we made Chris real proud today,” Westbrooks said. “I know he’s hungry to get back in it. I’m just trying to fill the hole wherever I can and do my job.”

    SITTING IT OUT

    Besides Long, other Rams inactives Sunday were tight end Lance Kendricks (hand), running back Tre Mason (ankle), linebacker Alec Ogletree (ankle), linebacker Jo-Lonn Dunbar, offensive lineman Andrew Donnal and quarterback Sean Mannion.

    Running back Trey Watts replaced Mason on the game-day roster; tight end Justice Cunningham did so for Kendricks. Watts and Cunningham were promoted from the practice squad, so Sunday marked the first regular-season action for either player. Neither player had a carry or a catch against Cleveland.

    BIG PLAYS FROM BRITT

    On a day when the Rams’ passing game mustered only 15 catches and 163 yards, wide receiver Kenny Britt delivered a couple of big plays on the Rams’ third-quarter touchdown drive.

    On first-and-10 from the St. Louis 32, Britt drew a 26-yard pass interference penalty on Cleveland cornerback Pierre Desir, the local product from Lindenwood University and Francis Howell Central High.

    On the next play, Britt got behind Desir for a 41-yard reception to the Cleveland 1. Todd Gurley scored on the next play to give the Rams a 17-6 lead with 2 minutes 14 seconds left in the third.

    “The safety was over a little left,” quarterback Nick Foles said. “It was man coverage. Kenny did a great job ‘outside-releasing’ the guy. I was just able to get a ball over the top. … It was really just a one-on-one opportunity and Kenny made a great play.”

    CROWD HELPS

    The number of tickets distributed in the 66,000-seat dome was announced at 51,523. The number of fans actually in the stands Sunday was probably in the 40,000-to-45,000 range. But they were a loud bunch, and Fisher was thankful for it.

    “The fans were great today,” Fisher said. “They helped today with respect to the false starts and the penalties and things like that. I’m sure they enjoyed watching Todd run.”

    On a day when the two teams combined for 20 penalties for 173 yards, Cleveland was flagged four times for false starts and four times for offensive holding.

    “The noise gets to you,” Cleveland coach Mike Pettine said. “It was hard for our guys to hear.”

    RAM-BLINGS

    • Gurley said he played Sunday without wearing a left knee brace, the first time that’s happened since he suffered the injury last November at the University of Georgia

    • One of the smallest players on the field, Tavon Austin, threw a key block on Gurley’s 48-yard run in the third quarter

    • According to unofficial press box stats, Rams safety Mark Barron — playing at outside linebacker — had 16 tackles

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    McLeod’s early fumble return for touchdown helps set tone

    Joe Lyons

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/mcleod-s-early-fumble-return-for-touchdown-helps-set-tone/article_d7d732e7-24be-5d75-8cea-509a6ee083e6.html

    On a day of big plays by the Rams’ defense, none was bigger Sunday than Rodney McLeod’s 20-yard fumble return for touchdown early in the contest.

    On a first-down play from the Cleveland 19-yard line, Browns quarterback Josh McCown threw a short screen pass to the left for Taylor Gabriel. Cornerback Janoris Jenkins quickly attacked and knocked the ball loose.

    McLeod, the Rams’ free safety, scooped it up and returned it 20 yards down the sideline for the first defensive points this season for the Rams, who went on to a 24-6 victory over the Browns at the Edward Jones Dome.

    “Actually, it was (McLeod) who alerted me,’’ Jenkins said. “I baited (McCown) a little, but once I saw him turn to make the throw, I was all over it.’’

    McLeod added: “It’s a play and a formation we saw on film a lot, something we repped all week in practice. ‘Jenks’ made a great play, knocking the ball free and I was there to capitalize on the opportunity.’’

    It was the first NFL touchdown for McLeod, a fourth-year pro.

    “Shoot, it’s probably been since high school, for real,’’ McLeod said when asked about his last TD. “It’s a great feeling. It’s a big play, just to set the tone for the game.’’

    McLeod’s scoop and score came just 3 minutes, 1 second into the game and was the first of four fumbles forced and recovered by the Rams, who parlayed the turnovers into 17 points.

    “If we can start fast like that, it certainly will help us out,’’ middle linebacker James Laurinaitis said. “We talked all week about how we want to score on defense and finally we did. Any time you score on defense, momentum changes. And when you score on defense, there’s a high probability of winning.’’

    On the Cleveland possession following the Rams’ early score, defensive end William Hayes knocked the ball away from McCown on a sack and linebacker Akeem Ayers came up with the ball at the Cleveland 25. That set up a 39-yard field goal from Greg Zuerlein that put the Rams on top 10-0 midway through the opening quarter.

    The Rams led 10-3 at the half and were up 10-6 when Todd Gurley scored his first NFL touchdown on a 1-yard run late in the third quarter. The home team was up 17-6 early in the final quarter when safeties T.J. McDonald and Mark Barron combined for a vicious hit on a pass play over the middle that forced another turnover and helped set up the game’s final score.

    McCown hooked up with speedy Travis Benjamin for a 20-yard gain over the middle. But the ball came free, thanks to a combo hit from McDonald and Barron. The ball caromed toward the line of scrimmage and was recovered by hustling defensive tackle Nick Fairley.

    “I got my hand in there (and Mark) put a good lick on him, too,’’ McDonald said after joking with Barron about who gets credit for the forced fumble. “I told him maybe we’d give him an assist, but I think this one’s mine. I guess we’ll just have to wait until we take a look at the film.’’

    Gurley capped the ensuing drive with a 16-yard touchdown run to seal the 24-6 victory.

    Later in the quarter, Hayes again knocked the ball from McCown on a sack and fellow end Eugene Sims recovered. This time, however, the Rams were unable to move the ball and punted.

    “We came in determined to be the difference in the game,’’ McDonald said. “We set a tone early and were able to pretty well control things from there. We got off the field when we needed to and also made some plays to put the offense in position. We feed off them and the offense feeds off us.’’

    Playing with a lead, the Rams’ defense was able to keep the pressure on McCown, who threw for a franchise-record 457 yards two weeks earlier against Baltimore. On Sunday, the 13-year pro completed 26 of 32 passes for 270 yards before being removed late with a shoulder injury and possible concussion. He was sacked four times, losing fumbles on two of those, and was hit seven other times.

    Playing with the lead is “awesome because it makes the other team’s offense one-dimensional and gives our guys up front a chance to really go after the QB,’’ Laurinaitis said. “And then, on the other end, having a running back like (Gurley), who can drain the clock and shorten the game a little, it really helps a lot.’’

    Sunday’s win puts the Rams at 3-3 and provides some expectations for a club scheduled to play just one winning team over the next month.

    “I would say next week will be the big test for us,’’ Laurinaitis said, referring to Sunday’s game against the San Francisco 49ers at the Dome. “We can’t ignore the problems we’ve had with putting back-to-back stuff together. We have a division team coming into our place and we have an opportunity to kind of stack some things.

    “We’ve talked about it a lot and I’ll be sure to bring it up more, but next week will tell just how mature we are and if this team is any different than in the past.’’

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    Note: zooey’s post made more sense before I changed the thread title, which used to say “email me with any and all issues.”

    My boss is crazy, my wife doesn’t understand me, and my kids don’t appreciate me.

    Sometimes I just wonder what it all means. Ya know?

    This is nothing. For the last 10 years you have had the Rams. This must bring balance and pride to your existence. I don’t see how it could be otherwise.

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    You know, interestingly, the offense did better when they decided at the half to open it up some. In the 2nd half, when they used the no huddle, Foles went 5 of 7 for 78 yards, which is more than 11 per attempt. IMO he was bad in the 1st half not the 2nd.

    Here’s Fisher on the 2nd half changes:

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    http://theramshuddle.com/topic/fisher-foles-gurley-mccleod-donald-jenkins-transcripts/

    we picked the tempo up in the second half and cut (Rams QB) Nick (Foles) loose a little bit and we made some plays.

    We just can’t rely on Todd (Gurley) all the time. At some point it’s going to get hard to run the football, until we start making some plays on the outside. Now, obviously we did. (WR) Kenny (Britt) made a great catch and then drew the big penalty, because Nick (Foles) got the chance to put it on the outside. And we have to continue to work at that.

    (On the decision to go with the up-tempo offense in the second half)
    It was just a decision I made.

    .

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    I don;t think Chuck is the DB position coach anymore. I think he was promoted out of that into something having to do with general defensive issues. It’s like he’s the Boras to Williams. Or, Boras is the Cecil to Cignetti. Something like that.

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    i have no reason to believe there should be any kind of letdown.

    but i’m still nervous.

    It’s a division rival. Those kinds of games can turn on you.

    So it ain’t over till it’s over.

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    Safety valve: Rams’ Barron racks up 16 tackles in move to linebacker

    FOX Sports

    http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/st-louis-rams-mark-barron-thrives-at-linebacker-102515

    The St. Louis Rams absorbed a big blow on defense when outside linebacker Alec Ogletree suffered a fractured right fibula that left his season in doubt.

    Replacing the team’s leading tackler from each of the past two seasons would be no easy task, but the Week 6 bye allowed the Rams to get creative with their linebacker corps and slide Mark Barron from safety to weak-side linebacker for Sunday’s game versus Cleveland.

    “I think that’s a great spot for Mark,” Rams cornerback Janoris Jenkins said. “Hard-nosed hitter. Loves to be around the ball. High energy.”

    Barron made the move look brilliant with a stellar performance Sunday. He registered a team-high 16 tackles, including 10 solo and two for losses, as the Rams forced four turnovers, collected four sacks and surrendered only a pair of field goals in a 24-6 victory.

    “I’m just playing football,” Barron said. “That’s easy to me. I just line up and I know my responsibility. And as long as I know my responsibility, I can do that. It’s not a hard adjustment. It’s just football.”

    Barron helped snuff out one of Cleveland’s last hopes, combining with safety T.J. McDonald to force a fumble by Browns wideout Travis Benjamin near midfield early in the fourth quarter. The Rams recovered and running back Todd Gurley scored seven plays later for a commanding 24-6 lead.

    “We’ve asked him to do a lot more with Alec being gone,” St. Louis middle linebacker James Laurinaitis said of Barron. “He knows a lot of football and really triggers when he sees a play happening he goes for it.”

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    This defense may not be elite but they are elite hitters. They are absolutely vicious out there!

    Actually? Before today’s game is factored in…the Rams defense has been:

    10th in yards per game

    7th in yards per play

    3rd in sack percentage

    8th in takeaways

    9th in points allowed per game

    2nd in redzone scoring percentage (TDs only)

    Where they lag is completion percentage, rushing yards, and 3rd down conversions.

    The one where I hope they improve is 3rd down conversions.

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    BEFORE today’s game, Browns offense was:

    10th in yards

    12th in yards per play

    11th in points

    This is based on today’s numbers, and those don’t include today’s games.

    But in the last 6 games, the Rams have played

    4 teams that were in the top 10 for offensive yards (Seattle-2nd, Arizona-5th, Green Bay-9th, Cleveland-10th)

    and 4 teams that were in the top 12 for average points per game (Arizona-2nd, Green Bay-5th, Seattle-6th, Pittsburgh-8th, Cleveland-12th).

    On the last bit. Here is their avg. points per game, and their score v. the Rams:

    Arizona-33.8…22 v. Rams
    Green Bay-27.3…24 v. Rams
    Pittsburgh-24.2…12 v. Rams
    Cleveland-23.5…6 v. Rams

    avg-27.2…17 v. Rams

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    BEFORE today’s game, Browns offense was:

    10th in yards

    12th in yards per play

    11th in points

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    To see Gurley dominating makes me feel smart for fist pumping and exclaiming “yes!” when the Rams drafted him on April 30, 2015.

    I had the same reaction. Glad to see it was really warranted.

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    Janoris Jenkins Postgame Press Conference – 10/25

    Cornerback Janoris Jenkins talks about his team’s defensive game plan and getting the victory over Cleveland

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/videos/videos/Janoris_Jenkins_Postgame_Press_Conference_1025/20f15553-7547-451f-94fa-7bcaf6ed8046

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