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znModeratorRamBill: Ian Rapoport discusses the free agents that are expected to sign big deals. Janoris Jenkins is on his list. He expects the Niners, Raiders, Jags, and Titans to be interested, along with the Rams, who want to re-sign him.
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Filed to ESPN: Chris Long’s first visit will be to Washington tomorrow..znModeratorWell…warning. This is an example of the fan blog types reading and repeating other fan blog types style of “reporting.” Personally, I usually won’t even post those kinds of “articles.” The only real thing in all of this so far is the original tweet from Ian Rapoport (in the original post, this thread). So take this with a shovel full of salt.
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NFL RUMORS: DALLAS COWBOYS ACQUIRING NICK FOLES FROM LOS ANGELES RAMS
JACK WINDHAM
Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones definitely doesn’t want to go through another season without a solid quarterback at the helm, so he is doing his due diligence by looking to upgrade at the position. The NFL Draft is coming up soon, and the Cowboys are expected to seriously consider spending one of the early choices on a passer. However, Sports Illustrated Fansided is now stating that Dallas could be interested in trading for Los Angeles Rams quarterback Nick Foles.
In 2013, Nick Foles caught the attention of the NFL when he completed the season with an 119.2 quarterback rating while starting for the Philadelphia Eagles. Many thought he was ready to take it to the next level, because he threw for 27 touchdowns and only two interceptions. The belief was that Chip Kelly had finally found the star quarterback that his brilliant offensive system needed and would lead the Eagles back to the promise land.
Things came crashing back down to earth in 2014 for Nick Foles. He only threw 13 touchdowns that season, and he had 10 interceptions for the year. A broken collarbone ended the season for Foles. Mark Sanchez took over the starting quarterback spot for the Philadelphia Eagles, and some fans actually started leaning towards him over Foles. Some believed that Foles was no longer in the plans for the Eagles.
Chip Kelly shocked the NFL in March of 2015 when he traded Nick Foles away to the then-St. Louis Rams. Reports surfaced that the former Oregon Ducks head coach convinced the Rams to give up Sam Bradford, whom they were not actively shopping. Despite being injury prone for his entire NFL career, Bradford was viewed as a better option by Kelly. Many started looking down on Foles, because they saw that the Philadelphia Eagles were able to discard him for a player that might never play a full season.
The grass wasn’t that much greener for Nick Foles when he became the starting quarterback for the St Louis Rams. Head coach Jeff Fisher actually lost confidence in Foles and benched him. Case Keenum is still an unproven commodity in the NFL, but Fisher felt that the Rams had a better chance of winning with him than with Foles. With the Rams moving to Los Angeles, the belief was that Foles was going to be playing for another team soon.
With the possibility of the Los Angeles Rams being interested in trading away Nick Foles, a couple of NFL teams immediately expressed interest in acquiring him. The Washington Redskins expressed interest because their quarterback position is in shambles. Robert Griffin III is essentially out the door. Kirk Cousins did better than expected, but he’s a free agent whose asking price might be too high for Redskins owner Dan Snyder.For whatever reasons, the Miami Dolphins are also expressing interest in acquiring Nick Foles from the Los Angeles Rams. Former Denver Broncos and Chicago Bears offensive coordinator Adam Gase recently took over as the new head coach of the Dolphins. The belief was that Miami had faith in Ryan Tannehill since they handed him a $95 million contract, but it now appears that Gase might not be entirely sold.
The third NFL team to express interest in Nick Foles is the Dallas Cowboys. That doesn’t really come as a surprise, because Jerry Jones wants to make sure that he has a quarterback in case Tony Romo goes down again. Foles isn’t a franchise quarterback at this point in time, but if he’s surrounded by a great offensive line, Dez Bryant and Jason Witten, then he might be more than adequate as an emergency starter.
znModeratorRams: More details on Tre Mason arrest emerge
Vincent Bonsignore
link: http://www.insidesocal.com/nfl/2016/03/06/rams-more-details-on-tre-mason-arrest-emerge/
Rams running back Tre Mason was taken into custody Saturday in Hollywood, Florida and arrested on suspicion of resisting arrest, marijuana possession, reckless driving and not registering his car.
In a statement, the Ram expressed disappointment.
“We are very disappointed to learn of an incident involving Tre Mason in the Miami, Fla. area Saturday afternoon. We are in the process of obtaining more information about the facts surrounding this incident and will have no further comment at this time.”
The story was first reported by WPLG Channel 10 in Florida. According the the WPLG report, Broward County court records show that Mason had less than the 20 grams of marijuana on him, which carries a misdemeanor possession charge.
According to the Hollywood (Fl) police report released to the Associated Press, Mason was subdued with a stun gun twice when he refused to cooperate with officers who were arresting him in South Florida.
The report indicated Mason refused orders to get out of his Porsche sports car Saturday afternoon after he was pulled over for going more than twice the speed limit in a 35-mile-per-hour zone along a Beachside road, and refused to give the patrol officer his name or provide identification. The officer smelled marijuana in the car.
“I warned the defendant if he did not identify himself he would be subject to arrest and he smirked as he was making eye contact,” Officer Lester Cochenour wrote in his report.
The officer called for backup and warned Mason he would be arrested if he didn’t provide identification, the report said.
Upon informing Mason he was under arrest. officer Cochenour attempted to removed Mason from the car by taking his left arm, Mason braced himself against the car’s floor, seat and steering wheel, according to the report. Another officer joined the effort to get Mason out of the car, but he still resisted, according to the police report.
“The defendant was warned several times in a composed voice to stop resisting, exit the vehicle and if he did not comply with arrest, a Taser would be used,” the officer wrote in the report.
A third officer arrived, and when another effort failed to remove him, Mason was stunned on his torso with a Taser. He was stunned again outside the vehicle in his pelvis when he refused to put his hands behind his back as ordered, the report said.
Mason was then taken to a hospital for medical clearance since he had been stunned. While he was there, bond was posted for him so he was released from police custody and never had to go to jail, said Jaime Hernandez, spokesman for the Hollywood Police Department. Hernandez did not immediately know how much Mason’s bail was.
Mason, 22, has a home in Delray Beach and went to high school in nearby Lake Worth.
Mason, a second-round pick in 2014 from Auburn, was also reportedly taken to a local hospital after the arrest though for what has not been disclosed.
Mason struggled last season in his second year with the Rams, and faced a key offseason trying to get back on strong footing with the Rams.
znModeratorfrom off the net
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Rams_81
A favorite all-time story on Peyton Manning
I went to a basketball coaching clinic in Tunica a few years back and listened to the current Boston Celtics coach that had coached at Butler. After Butler had some success, the coach got to go the Colts stadium. I don’t remember the specifics of the visit and all it entailed, but it did not really include Peyton Manning.
But on a cold early March day, Peyton Manning was at the Stadium after his football season just finished at 7:30 in the morning. He was in a video room all by himself with a notepad watching video of himself taking a snap and dropping back to pass. The Butler Coach was able to go into the room and meet him and asked him what he was doing. Manning said he was putting together a plan on how he was going to get better the following season.
He watched over and over and took notes on all the different drop backs and different plays and wrote down where he felt he could improve and than he was going to come up with how he was going to get that improvement whether it be reviewing film, doing drills, simulating the plays.
From how he collected the snap to his first step back to setting his feet, to stepping into the pass. He reviewed it all over and over.
Manning in my opinion is the most successful athlete in history. I would put him and Larry Bird side by side. They maximized their abilities and became superstars way beyond their physical abilities.
March 6, 2016 at 10:42 pm in reply to: informal poll—the Rams will draft a qb? sign one? wuttz yer vott? #40094znModeratorbump
my hope is that they draft a guy and developmental is okay…rounds 1-3
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znModeratorRoddy White’s agent claims Kyle Shanahan issued ultimatum to team
Mike Florio
Roddy White’s agent claims Kyle Shanahan issued ultimatum to team
On Saturday, former Falcons receiver Roddy White unloaded on Atlanta offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan. On Sunday, White’s agent jumped on the pile.
“There is one reason Roddy is no longer with the Falcons and it is Kyle Shanahan,” Jonathan Feinsod told D. Orlando Ledbetter of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “Kyle forced the Falcons to choose between him or Roddy. This was not Roddy’s choice. Over the last 11 years Roddy has played for four different head coaches. Four different offensive coordinators. Three different wide receiver coaches and one incredible owner. Their opinions of Roddy and his opinion of them would all be consistently positive. Roddy has had and continues to have an incredible professional and personal relationship with them all.”
Falcons coach Dan Quinn denied the contention that Shanahan made a Roddy-or-me ultimatum, claiming that Quinn made the decision without consulting with Shanahan.
“I did not consult or confer with any of the assistant coaches,” Quinn said. “From my long history as an assistant coach, I know often times you want to have everybody forever. I did not confer with Kyle in any way regarding this decision.”
Regardless of whether Shanahan did or didn’t lobby for White to leave, the decision to keep Shanahan after one so-so season necessarily became a decision to get rid of White. With Shanahan not using the 2005 first-rounder very much, it was impossible to justify White’s salary.
Whether the Falcons made the right decision will hinge on how well White does or doesn’t perform elsewhere. As a practical matter, the double-barreled blast from White and Feinsod could make teams leery about bringing White to town.
March 6, 2016 at 9:41 pm in reply to: Jon Gruden's QB Camp w/ Case Keenum 2012 (has morphed into "the keenum thread") #40091znModeratormore from off the net, for the “making a case for Case” thread
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Case is never going to be an elite QB. But he plays the position intelligently, and does a good job anticipating what the defense is doing. He makes some really good throws too, and places the ball well. In that small sample size he had at the end of the season he made a lot of the players around him look much better than they had all season. Britt for example, and he also put the ball in Tavon’s hands on time on many of the short/dump passes this offense seems to specialize in, and that made a big difference. And of course he doesn’t make dumb mistakes, he’s careful with the ball and avoids turnovers.
I understand why Fish likes him. And I think it goes without saying that the Rams need to draft a QB. But if they enter the season with a rookie holding a clipboard, and a FA and draft addition at wideout I think this offense will be solid. He’s not the ideal bridge QB for a rookie, but he might do it better than many expect if they put talent around him.
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znModeratorOf this link, poster hacksaw[] says:
I posted just the link because the entire article wouldn’t copy over due to the film breakdown files on Lynch. Don’t hesitate to check it out. This is one of the better one’s I have read. Not the usual fluff piece. Actually, pretty decent analysis.
Monson: What to make of Paxton Lynch’s NFL potential (Film breakdown)
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From the Article:
The top two QBs in this class are head and shoulders above the rest, but Paxton Lynch has a good chance to stand alone as the third guy. He has all of the physical tools that NFL teams love, and while his offense makes a comprehensive evaluation and projection to the NFL tricky, there is much to like. The issue is how much of a question mark projecting him into a pro-style system is, and how confident can any team be in doing that?
When one adds in the troubling accuracy and anticipation on intermediate throws – the NFL’s bread and butter – there are enough questions about Lynch to keep him well away from Goff and Wentz. It’ll perhaps make him a later-round player, even if the position he plays will likely dictate he is drafted higher.
The Memphis QB draws a comparison to Joe Flacco, but must improve on his accuracy and anticipation.
znModeratorRams running back Tre Mason arrested in Hollywood
Charges include possession of cannabis, reckless driving
By Paradise Afshar
http://www.local10.com/sports/nfl/rams-tre-mason-arrested-in-hollywood
HOLLYWOOD, Fla. – Los Angeles Rams running back Trence “Tre” Mason was arrested Saturday by the Hollywood Police Department after an officer observed him driving recklessly.
Twelve grams of marijuana were found inside the 22-year-old’s car, according to police. He was also shot with a stun gun during his encounter with law enforcement.
Mason, who has a home in Delray Beach, was arrested around 5:30 p.m. in front of Diplomat Landing at 3200 South Ocean Dr., in Hollywood.
At the time he was driving a 2011 Porsche at about 75 mph in a 35 mph zone when he swerved across two lanes of traffic to avoid an accident, according to a report.
Mason was on his cellphone when he was pulled over after a short chase and began recording his interaction with the officer, according to police.
“I told the defendant he could record me but he would still eventually have to produce his license,” the report said. “The defendant stated he didn’t have it.”
Mason then shook his head no when the officer asked him for his name, and continued to smirk at the officer when he asked if he had any other identification on him, the report said.
When the officer asked Mason to spell his first name he responded with”T-R-E-N-C,” the report said. He then spelled his last name, “M-A.”
The officer then turned off the ignition and told Mason to get out of the vehicle when he continued to refuse to give any identifying information, police said.
When the officer attempted to arrest Mason, according to the report, Mason “tensed his arms and straightened his body as he used the floor, steering wheel and seat to brace himself in the vehicle.”
Mason was told that he’d be shot with a stun gun if he didn’t comply, police said, and was eventually stunned.
“The defendant showed unusual resistance to the first three seconds of the Taser application with little pain compliance,” the report said.
Before officers were able to arrest Mason, he’d continued to “pull away,” the report said, causing officers to shoot him with a stun gun in the pelvic area.
Police said the the tag on the Porsche was registered to Mason Nation LLC for a 2013 Land Rover, that registration expired in 2013.
The Porsche didn’t have a registration or assigned plate number, according to police who did a search on the vehicle identification number.
Police were able to find a bag of marijuana inside the vehicle, along with a cigar containing marijuana and a burnt bud that smelled like cannabis .
Mason was transported by Hollywood Fire Rescue to Memorial Regional Hospital in Hollywood for medical clearance, according to a media release from the Hollywood Police Department.
Records from the Broward Clerk of Courts indicate that Mason has been charged with resisting arrest, possession of cannabis, reckless driving and failure to register a motor vehicle.
Mason was drafted by the St. Louis Rams in 2014 as a third-round pick.
znModeratorMason was taken to the hospital following his arrest.
Mason was taken to the hospital following his arrest.
I agree ag. The story is a little strange
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Tre Mason arrested on drug, traffic charges in Florida
Tre Mason arrested on drug, traffic charges in FloridaJosh Alper
Rams running back Tre Mason’s team will be playing its home games near Hollywood, California in 2016, but Mason may be held out of some after being arrested in Hollywood, Florida on Saturday.
Mason has been charged with resisting arrest, marijuana possession, reckless driving and failure to register a motor vehicle after being pulled over on Saturday afternoon. Per a Broward County police report, via Frank Guzman of WSVN, officers observed Mason going 75 mph. in a 35 mph. zone and pulled him over after a short pursuit. Mason allegedly refused requests to provide his license or name, refused to get out of the car when police told him he would be arrested and was eventually removed after use of a Taser.
Officers found 12 grams of marijuana in the vehicle and took Mason into custody. They also took him to the hospital for medical clearance.
Nick Wagoner of ESPN.com reports that the Rams are “still gathering information” about what happened.
Mason, a 2014 third-round pick, is heading into his third season with the Rams
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Rams RB Tre Mason tasered, arrested in Florida
Nick Wagoner
Los Angeles Rams running back Tre Mason was subdued with a Taser and arrested Saturday night in Hollywood, Florida, according to a Broward County Clerk of Courts police report.
The Hollywood Police Department arrested Mason on suspicion of possession of marijuana, reckless driving, failure to register a motor vehicle and resisting arrest.
“We are very disappointed to learn of an incident involving Tre Mason in the Miami, Fla. area Saturday afternoon,” the Rams said in a statement on Sunday. “We are in the process of obtaining more information about the facts surrounding this incident and will have no further comment at this time.”
An officer started following Mason after seeing him drive more than twice the speed limit in a 35 mph zone. The officer says Mason drove away from him and only stopped when his car was blocked by another vehicle.
The officer says Mason refused to give his name or provide his driver’s license. The officer also says he smelled marijuana in Mason’s Porsche.
The officer says he then told Mason he was under arrest and asked him to exit the vehicle, but, according to the police report, Mason refused and tried to “brace himself” inside the car and showed “great resistance” when officers tried to pull him out. The officer says Mason was given several warnings before “a Taser was utilized on the driver to subdue him.”
Mason was taken into custody, and then taken to a local hospital for medical clearance.
Mason was a third-round pick in the 2014 NFL draft and he quickly became the starter in his rookie season, rushing for 765 yards and four touchdowns in 12 games. His role was diminished last year after the Rams drafted running back Todd Gurley with the 10th pick in the 2015 draft.
With Gurley getting most of the work, Mason rushed for 207 yards and a touchdown last season. He also was deactivated for the team’s game against Baltimore on Nov. 22 because he missed the team bus to the airport.
At last month’s NFL scouting combine, Rams coach Jeff Fisher said this would be an important offseason for Mason.
“Tre has got to have a great offseason program,” Fisher said. “That, in itself, is going to be a challenge for us because it’s going to take place out in Southern California. We’re expecting, hoping, that everybody comes in. We drafted Tre for a reason. When you look at that position, when you’re talking about Todd and Tre and then Benny [Cunningham], I think that’s as good a group as you’ll find in the league, from a depth standpoint. Then the difference [is] their abilities and what they do. I think Tre realizes he has to put the commitment in, wherever he is, and have a great preseason.”
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
znModeratorMason was taken to the hospital following his arrest.
Mason was taken to the hospital following his arrest.
I agree ag. The story is a little strange
znModeratorIs it roughly-fair to say this regime
generally gets three starters per draft?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/ram/draft.htmw
vI found while looking around and doing a bit of research that 40% hits is the norm for good drafting. Out of 7 picks, 3 would be 42.8%.
Average drafting is around 2 per draft or about 30%.
Anything in the high 40s or more is exceptional.
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znModeratorBroncos announce Peyton Manning’s retirement
Michael David Smith
Broncos announce Peyton Manning’s retirement
The Broncos announced this morning that Manning has informed the team he’s calling it a career. A ceremony in Denver is scheduled for Monday.
“When you look at everything Peyton has accomplished as a player and person, it’s easy to see how fortunate we’ve been to have him on our team,” Broncos General Manager John Elway said.” Peyton was everything that we thought he was and even more—not only for the football team but in the community. There’s no question that his work ethic is what made him into one of the great quarterbacks of all time. All the film study Peyton did and the process that he went through with game planning and understanding what the other teams did was second-to-none. Peyton was a player that guys wanted to play with. That made us better as a team, and I’m thrilled that we were able to win a championship in his final year. Peyton won a lot of awards and set a lot of records, but to me, what he helped our team accomplish during the last four years is what stands out the most. I’m very thankful Peyton chose to play for the Denver Broncos, and I congratulate him on his Hall of Fame career.”
Broncos coach Gary Kubiak thanked Manning for the one year they spent together, a year that ended with the Broncos winning Super Bowl 50.
“It was a blessing to coach Peyton Manning,” Kubiak said. “Nobody worked harder at the game and nobody prepared harder than Peyton. His preparation was the best I’ve ever seen with how he went about his business. There was nothing like his work habits. Each and every week, he did everything he could to get ready to play not only against the defense but even against the coordinator. After competing against Peyton many, many times, I already had great respect for him. But being with him this season, going through what we went through and accomplishing what we accomplished—that was special.”
And now a special career has ended.
March 6, 2016 at 2:07 pm in reply to: 2016 mocks & rankings & general draft commentaries, thread 2 #40070znModeratorLA Times’ NFL mock draft: Offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil goes first
Sam Farmerhttp://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-2016-nfl-mock-draft-20160306-column.html
The Denver Broncos made a strong case for that in the Super Bowl, at least, when their smothering defense dropped a sledgehammer on Cam Newton and the high-scoring Carolina Panthers.
And this class of draft prospects is loaded with defensive talent.
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“It’s a defensive draft,” NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock said. “Best interior defensive line I’ve seen maybe since I started doing this.
See the most-read stories in Sports this hour >>
“We’re seeing with the Super Bowl-winning Denver Broncos what started about five years ago, which is all the NFL teams are talking about: We’ve got to find people on defense that can affect the pass offense, because it’s a pass-first league.”In this, the Times’ first mock draft of the off-season, eight defensive linemen are selected — and that’s with talented Eastern Kentucky defensive end Noah Spence dropping out of the first round because of character concerns, and New England not getting a pick because of Deflategate.
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This mock also features three quarterbacks, two running backs, and one ultra-versatile player — UCLA linebacker Myles Jack, who could line up at virtually any position on the field.1. TENNESSEE — Laremy Tunsil, OT, Mississippi: The Titans will try to trade down, but they need help protecting Marcus Mariota, who was sacked 38 times in 12 games.
2. CLEVELAND — Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State: The Browns have gone through 24 starting quarterbacks since 1999. Wentz has a tremendous arm and good mobility.
3. SAN DIEGO — DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon: The Chargers, who allowed the third-most plays of 20 or more yards, need to get more pressure on the passer.
4. DALLAS — Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State: The Cowboys need to move past the Greg Hardy fiasco, and Randy Gregory’s career is already off on the wrong foot.
5. JACKSONVILLE — Jalen Ramsey, FS, Florida State: The Jaguars will be all about drafting defenders, and need help both up front and on the back end.
Jalen Ramsey
Florida State defensive back Jalen Ramsey runs with the ball during a drill at the NFL scouting combine on Feb. 29. (Michael Conroy / Associated Press)
6. BALTIMORE — Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida: The Ravens allowed 30 touchdown passes last season, the most in team history.7. SAN FRANCISCO — Jared Goff, QB, California: The 49ers need to close the book on the Colin Kaepernick era, and they do that with a player from across the bay.
8. MIAMI — Myles Jack, LB, UCLA: Jack could go sooner — maybe to Dallas — but he’s a good fit for a Dolphins team sorely in need of defenders.
9. TAMPA BAY — Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame: The Buccaneers have more pressing needs on defense, but they also need a right tackle to protect the Jameis Winston investment.
10. N.Y. GIANTS — A’Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama: The Giants were 32nd in total defense last season, and are desperate to find a way to opposing quarterbacks.
11. CHICAGO — Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson: The Bears finished the 2015 season with one active defensive lineman who was with them in training camp.
12. NEW ORLEANS — Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville: Defense continues to be a problem for the Saints, who surrendered an NFL-record 45 touchdown passes last season.
13. PHILADELPHIA — Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio State: Now that the Eagles have extended quarterback Sam Bradford, they need to do a better job of protecting him.
14. OAKLAND — Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State: Charles Woodson has retired, and D.J. Hayden hasn’t panned out. Cornerback is atop the Raiders’ wish list.
15. RAMS — Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis: The Rams, who had the league’s worst passing offense last season, need help at both quarterback and receiver.
Paxton Lynch
Memphis quarterback Paxton Lynch looks to throw a pass during a drill at the NFL scouting combine on Feb. 27. (Michael Conroy / Associated Press)
16. DETROIT — Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State: Matthew Stafford was sacked a combined 89 times the last two seasons, the worst two-season stretch of his career.17. ATLANTA — Darron Lee, OLB, Ohio State: Lee might help the Falcons bump up their pass rush after they finished with a league-low 19 sacks last season.
18. INDIANAPOLIS — Jason Spriggs, OT, Indiana: According to NFL.com, Colts quarterbacks have been hit a league-high 450 times since the team picked Andrew Luck first in 2012.
19. BUFFALO — Robert Nkemdiche, DT, Ole Miss: The Bills have a more pressing need for offensive linemen, but if the troubled Nkemdiche falls this far, Coach Rex Ryan will have a hard time resisting.
20. N.Y. JETS — Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State: The Jets need an upgrade at running back, and Elliott — or maybe Heisman winner Derrick Henry — would work here.
21. WASHINGTON — Kenny Clark, DT, UCLA: The Redskins need help at all three levels of their defense, but mostly up front. The athletic Clark would be a good fit.
Kenny Clark
UCLA defensive lineman Kenny Clark performs a drill at the NFL scouting combine on Feb. 28. (Gregory Payan / Associated Press)
22. HOUSTON — Derrick Henry, RB, Alabama: The Texans need a replacement for longtime standout Arian Foster, who was recently let go and hadn’t played a complete season since 2012. They can wait to take a quarterback.23. MINNESOTA — Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss: The Vikings hit it big with fifth-rounder Stefon Diggs last year. Treadwell is the top receiver in this class.
24. CINCINNATI — Kendall Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech: The Bengals need a receiver, but they’re also graying at cornerback. Fuller would be a solid and safe pick.
25. PITTSBURGH — Vonn Bell, S, Ohio State: The Steelers need help throughout the secondary, but the top corners are off the board. Tight end is also a consideration.
26. SEATTLE — Cody Whitehair, G, Kansas State: Russell Wilson was sacked 31 times in the first eight games before the line was reshuffled. Don’t rule out cornerback here, either.
27. GREEN BAY — Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas: Henry, who didn’t have a drop in 2015, would be another reliable target for Aaron Rodgers.
28. KANSAS CITY — Corey Coleman, WR, Baylor: The Chiefs have more pressing needs along the offensive and defensive lines, but they also could use another receiver to complement Jeremy Maclin.
29. NEW ENGLAND — Pick forfeited.
30. ARIZONA — Ryan Kelly, C, Alabama: The Cardinals need an eventual replacement for Lyle Sendlein. This could be a spot for University of Houston cornerback William Jackson.
31. CAROLINA — Jonathan Bullard, DE, Florida: Good as the team was, the Panthers didn’t get consistent productivity from their defensive ends last season.
32. DENVER — Shon Coleman, OT, Auburn: The Broncos were down to their fourth and fifth offensive tackles in 2015 … but somehow they made it work.
March 6, 2016 at 1:27 pm in reply to: Eagles upped offer in bid to keep Bradford…and (3/1) he signs #40067znModeratorSam Bradford can win with Doug Pederson — just ask Alex Smith
For all those wondering what the Philadelphia Eagles see in quarterback Sam Bradford, don’t be surprised if this becomes his year of redemption. He’s finally back in a system that works well with his skill set. His new head coach knows a thing or two about mentoring beleaguered signal callers.
In other words, if it can’t work for Bradford this season, it clearly never will.
The financial commitment Philly made to Bradford earlier this week wasn’t earth-shattering in today’s quarterback market — a two-year deal worth $36 million, with $22 million guaranteed at signing — but it didn’t have to be. The Eagles just had to do enough to let Bradford know they still have some faith in him. The rest is on Bradford. It’s up to him to make the most of an opportunity he’s surely been waiting years to find.
Anybody who’s followed Bradford’s first six years in the NFL knows he looked extremely comfortable in the same West Coast offense that first-year head coach Doug Pederson is installing this offseason. Anybody who’s followed Pederson realizes that he built a productive relationship in Kansas City with Alex Smith, another quarterback who had plenty to prove after injuries, inconsistency and an assortment of coaching changes plagued his career. There’s no question Bradford remains a work in progress after an underwhelming season with Chip Kelly. There’s also little doubt that judging him off 2015 isn’t entirely fair.
The 28-year-old Bradford earned the right to remain in Philadelphia by how he performed in his final seven games of last season, after his completion percentage rose (from 62 percent through October, to 68.2 over the remainder) and he threw more touchdowns (10) than interceptions (four). When asked why he believes Bradford can be that same quarterback for an entire season, Pederson said, “You can look at it from an Xs-and-Os standpoint. You also can talk to people that have been around Sam Bradford and understand where he’s come, as far as his development as a quarterback. The fact that he put himself in a leadership role toward the end of the season proves to me that he can handle this role and the opportunity to start.”
“My main objective was to be back in Philadelphia,” said Bradford, who helped Philadelphia go 7-7 in his 14 starts. “It just happened on a two-year deal, and that’s perfectly fine with me. I would’ve preferred a 100-year deal, if they wanted to give it to me. I just wanted to get back in Philadelphia. My agent felt like it was a great deal for both sides. I think the organization felt the same way. As long as I continue to play the way I know I can, it shouldn’t really matter.”
The best thing Bradford has going for him is Pederson. The head coach wasn’t the sexiest pick to replace Kelly — nor was he even the predictable choice — but he has learned plenty from working with Andy Reid, both in Philadelphia and Kansas City. What Pederson realizes is that most coaches don’t have the good fortune of being blessed with a Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers. The successful ones make the most of the less-gifted signal callers they actually end up having to coach.
Just as Reid and Pederson found ways to maximize Smith’s talents in Kansas City, Pederson’s staff can do the same for Bradford. This is still a quarterback who was promising enough to be the first overall pick in the 2010 draft, a prospect that one former general manager called “as accurate as any quarterback who’s ever come out of college.” Bradford didn’t regress because he was overrated. He has struggled because he’s been a victim of several bad breaks.
The obvious issues have been health-related. He sustained torn anterior cruciate ligaments in both the 2013 and 2014 seasons — and that would be enough to stunt anybody’s development. Bradford also was never a great fit for Kelly’s fast-paced offense. That experiment looked disastrous from the moment we saw defenders launching themselves at Bradford as he carried out his read-option fakes in the preseason.
Pederson still has to prove he can win as a head coach, but does have intimate knowledge of the quarterback position (he spent most of his 12-year NFL career as a backup with four different teams). He should be able to see what didn’t work for Bradford, why it didn’t work and where the quarterback needs to go from here. As Eaglesexecutive vice president of football operations Howie Roseman said, “One of the benefits we have as a staff is having Doug, who played the position, having [offensive coordinator Frank Reich], who played the position, having [quarterbacks coach John DeFilippo], who played the position, and having their input into the evaluation process, as well, and how they see [Bradford] fitting their system.”
The other benefit for Bradford is the offense Pederson wants to run. Bradford won the 2010 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year award because he started his career in the West Coast offense. He’s always looked most effective when distributing the ball quickly and allowing his receivers to run after the catch. There were West Coast elements in the offense he ran as a Heisman Trophy winner at Oklahoma. It’s also proven to be the system that most fits a quarterback who’s often been lauded for his smarts and his accuracy.
Unfortunately for Bradford, he found himself lost in the same abyss that sometimes claims talented, young quarterbacks. The Rams hired Josh McDaniels to run their offense in Bradford’s second year. They turned to Brian Schottenheimer as their offensive coordinator in 2012, once the franchise decided to replace head coach Steve Spagnuolo with Jeff Fisher. Bradford wound up playing a total of 23 games over the next three seasons before being dealt to Philadelphia last offseason.
That last paragraph is enough evidence to give Bradford one more benefit of the doubt. Smith had three head coaches and seven offensive coordinators with the San Francisco 49ers. It wasn’t until the arrival of head coach Jim Harbaugh in 2011 that Smith’s troubled career turned for the better (aside from a somewhat-promising year with offensive coordinator Norv Turner in Smith’s second season with the 49ers). Bradford has experienced more individual success in his first six seasons than Smith did in the same span, so it’s not hard to imagine a similar mid-career rise.
This isn’t to say there weren’t troubling issues in Philadelphia last year. It’s just that the entire team was filled with problems that had nothing to do with Bradford. Kelly’s offense is built on its breakneck pace, meaning the quarterback doesn’t have much time to read defenses or audible. Bradford is reputed as a quarterback who can win with his mind and his decision making, which is exactly what he’ll do in a more traditional system.
The contract the Eagles gave Bradford might be mystifying to some because, on the surface, it sounds like they overpaid for an underwhelming product. The reality is that Philadelphia, like every other team in the NFL, understands how hard it is to find even a serviceablequarterback in this league. It’s the same reason why Smith found a chance to redeem himself and a journeyman quarterback named Ryan Fitzpatricknearly led the New York Jets to the playoffs. Results can change quickly when certain players are put into better situations.
Bradford has found that opportunity for a new life in Philadelphia. The contract raised more than a few eyebrows and there will be skeptics who’ll want to see the Eagles consider other options. But that doesn’t mean Bradford is doomed to more struggles. If anything, the Eagles might be realizing that there’s still plenty to like about their quarterback’s long-term future.
znModeratorapparently, the powers-that-be are now, only
on year5 of the new Seven
Year planI see the plan this way.
2013: we’re ready to win with Bradford
2014:Bradford’s back so we will win now
2015: Nick Foles can do it, time to win
2016: we’ll do something about qbMarch 6, 2016 at 11:41 am in reply to: Eagles upped offer in bid to keep Bradford…and (3/1) he signs #40064znModeratorBradford is an elite vertical passer
Jeff Legwold
ESPN Staff WriterCam Newton and Russell Wilson both made strong MVP cases during the second half of the 2015 season, but they could not keep up with Bradford in terms of yards per attempt (YPA) on vertical passes (throws of 11 or more yards downfield). In fact, no one in the league matched Bradford’s 15.1 vertical YPA pace from Weeks 9 through 17.
That Bradford did this with a less-than-stellar pass-catching corps is notable, but it isn’t an anomaly. In the 2013 season, Bradford ranked sixth in the league in vertical YPA (12.5) despite throwing to a mediocre receiving corps consisting of Tavon Austin, Austin Pettis, Chris Givens, Brian Quick, Jared Cook andLance Kendricks. He is one of a small handful of quarterbacks capable of getting excellent downfield production out of subpar receiving.
znModeratorRoddy White: Shanahan ‘mismanaged’ offense, cost the team wins
Former Atlanta Falcons wide receiver Roddy White opened up about being released after 11 seasons and was candid about his shaky relationship with offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, Vaughn McClure of ESPN.com reports.
The 34-year-old White, who participated in the UAB alumni football game Saturday, said he wasn’t too upset about the Falcons’ final decision.
“No, I ain’t frustrated at all; it is what it is,” the four-time Pro Bowler said. “That’s just the NFL. Eventually, it’s going to be your time. It’s just according to when it happens.
“They showed no indication that I was going to be there, so I kind of expected it already. Like last year going through the whole situation, I knew I was going to be on the team because they said I was going to be on the team. But this year, they didn’t say that. They never gave any clear indication I was going to be there. When there’s no clarity early on about decisions like that, that means you already have a 50/50 chance, so I was just thinking to myself that it can only get worse.”
White saw his role diminish under Shanahan, who was in his first year as Atlanta’s coordinator. He ended the season as the team’s fourth-leading receiver with 43 catches for 506 yards and a touchdown.
After not catching a pass in consecutive games near the start of the season, White expressed displeasure with his role, saying he did not want to be just a “blocker.”
“What [Shanahan] expected from me and what I expected from him was totally different,” White said. “I expected to play a bigger role in the offense, and that’s what I wanted to do. But he didn’t have that in his desires. He had other people that he wanted to play my role, so he wanted me to be out of the [offense]. That was the whole thing. And it is what it is. I can’t do nothing about it. I can’t change his way of thinking or anything like that. I can just do what I did, which was just handle my business and get myself prepared for this moment.”
White said he was annoyed with chatter of him not being able to learn the offense. He was asked if the offense was too complex.
“No it wasn’t, besides the things [Shanahan] was doing in making six variations to one route,” White said. “It was just episodes throughout the game where I think he mismanaged things and screwed up and we didn’t have the opportunity to win the game, which, I thought, was on him as the offensive coordinator. It wasn’t sound football, but it was things that he was used to doing and things we weren’t used to doing as an offense, and it literally cost us like two games.”
White was asked if he attempted to speak with Shanahan throughout the season to voice his concerns, other than the sitdown he had with the coach after White publicly complained about his role.
“Man, I talked to him just about every day about everything,” White said. “But it’s like, ‘If I’m talking to you and it’s not getting no better, what do you expect from me?’ He kept trying to tell you all what he’s trying to do with the offense, but for the last 11 weeks of the season, we didn’t do anything. We didn’t turn no curves. The first four weeks were good. We went out there and scored a bunch of points and started off strong. But other than that, we didn’t do nothing the rest of the year.
“We weren’t going out there and averaging over 20 points per game, which is bad. Prior to him being there, we could score 20 points sitting down. Our offense was never really a problem before.”
March 6, 2016 at 11:22 am in reply to: Wagoner mailbag, 3/4… parts 1 & 2… could Rams go defense in Round 1? #40060znModeratorWith shallow pool of skill players, could Rams go defense in Round 1?
By Nick WagonerNow that we know where the Rams will be playing their home games next season and beyond, things have settled down enough to answer a few of your Twitter questions.
As always, you can find me on Twitter here: @nwagoner
Fire away with any Rams-related questions. Please use the hashtag #RamsMail so I will see them.
On to your questions:
Chris @ChrisDopez
@nwagoner been reading that their is no real top offensive prospects this year with that in mind is there a real chance Rams go DE@nwagoner: The early read on this year’s draft class is that it isn’t very strong at the skill positions, while the offensive and defensive lines are relatively loaded with talent. Picking at No. 15, the Rams might have access to the third-best quarterback and one of the top two wide receivers, but there’s not much star power at either position.
The Rams may consider a defensive end like Clemson’s Shaq Lawson. While I still expect the Rams to get veteran end William Hayes re-signed, it still wouldn’t hurt to begin planning for the future. We know the Rams aren’t afraid to spend valuable draft capital on the defensive line.
One thing the Rams have done under general manager Les Snead and head coach Jeff Fisher is focus on drafting the best player available when they pick. That philosophy has yielded two of their best players, running back Todd Gurley and defensive tackle Aaron Donald. Ideally your needs line up exactly with the value of the player, but in this case it wouldn’t be a surprise if the Rams went a little further down their list of needs to pick the best player on their board. And remember, that list of needs could be drastically different after free agency begins.
Seger Mounce @ciggyyy
@nwagoner Do the Ram’s stick with Kendricks, Harkey, and Cunningham, or do they address through free agency or the draft?@nwagoner: Chances are the Rams will add a tight end or two somewhere along the way. Remember, Cory Harkey is a free agent, so to even count him in the mix they’ll have to re-sign him first. But even if they do, they’d be well-served to scour the free-agent market for another player who can contribute. And though it’s not like they’ll be able to get a Rob Gronkowski, there are some intriguing options out there.
Indianapolis’ Dwayne Allen, in particular, is a player I think the Rams should consider. He had a down year in 2015, but that could favor a team trying to find a relative bargain. He’s been productive in the past as a pass-catcher, and he’s also proved a more than capable blocker. The draft doesn’t appear to have a lot of great tight ends. So I could see the Rams finding a below-the-radar option in free agency to bolster their depth and then taking a flier on one with upside in the draft.
znModeratori think this kind of signing would be the way to go. get a receiver who can step right in and contribute. bringing in a rookie who doesn’t know all the nuances of a pro style offense and having to develop him. i don’t know.
i know a couple of the bengals receivers should be free agents as well.
give keenum or whoever the best chance for immediate success.
then the draft can be spent on defense and a developmental qb.
Well i like the idea of an old wily vet on the team.
They had Welker last year, but I’d think Roddy White
would be better.Can he still play? I have no idea, I didn’t watch him.
His numbers?
43 catches on 70 targets (61.4%), 11.8 YPR, 3 drops. The catch percentage is better than any Ram last year but then with Foles disintegrating that might not be on the receivers.
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March 5, 2016 at 9:19 pm in reply to: Rams & qbs in free agency (from RG3 to possibly Fitzpatrick) #40041znModeratorBroncos offer to Osweiler: 3 years, more than $45 million
Mike Klis
http://www.9news.com/sports/broncos-offer-to-osweiler-3-years-more-than-45-million/69607526
KUSA – The Denver Broncos’ priority is unmistakable. They want to make Brock Osweiler their starting quarterback in 2016 and beyond.
Of course, commitment to a player in the salary cap/free agent NFL economy is always measured in dollars.
The Broncos have offered Osweiler a three-year contract proposal that is worth more than $45 million, NFL sources told 9NEWS. Osweiler can become an unrestricted free agent at 2 p.m. Wednesday. The market begins with a “soft” opening Monday where free agents can talk to other teams to gage interest and their value.
Meanwhile, the Broncos will get an update on the future of veteran Peyton Manning either Monday or Tuesday. Manning is expected to either announce his retirement or reveal he wants to keep his options open for a while longer.
If Manning remains undecided, the Broncos are expected to make a procedural move that would release them from his 2016 salary of $19 million that is scheduled to become fully guaranteed on Wednesday.
Regardless of Manning’s decision, the Broncos are trying to reel in Osweiler. The Houston Texans, Cleveland Browns and possibly the New York Jets are among the few teams that need a quarterback and could be interested in talking to Osweiler’s agent, Jimmy Sexton, on Monday, when the free-agent “tampering window” opens.
The Broncos’ $45 million-plus package includes incentives. Typically, some incentives are more makeable than others. It’s not known how much of the package is fully guaranteed, but still the offer could be deemed strong considering Osweiler has but seven NFL starts.
Still, Osweiler was impressive in those seven starts, especially during clutch regular-season wins against New England and Cincinnati that were instrumental in giving the Broncos’ home-field advantage through the AFC playoffs.
Osweiler was the 12th-ranked passer in the final seven weeks of the regular season with an 87.8 passer rating based off 9 touchdown passes, 5 interceptions and 1,821 passing yards. The Broncos won five of Osweiler’s seven starts.
He showed enough athleticism, poise, decision-making and ability to perform in bad weather to project as a good fit in head coach Gary Kubiak’s offensive system that is built on running the ball and mobile passing game.
And the quarterback market is rising as evidenced by the extensions received last week by Philadelphia’s Sam Bradford and Baltimore’s Joe Flacco.
It might be a stretch, though, to say Osweiler has comparable value to those quarterbacks, who are far more established.
The closest comparison to Osweiler is Nick Foles who has the 22nd richest contracts among the 22 starting quarterbacks who have progressed beyond their rookie deals.
The 21st-highest-paid starting quarterback is Andy Dalton, who had 30 wins and 80 touchdown passes before he received his extension that pays $16 million a year.
Even Foles was far more accomplished with a 14-4 record and 40 touchdown passes against 12 interceptions in the two seasons before he got his two-year, $24.54 million extension with the Rams.
Yet the Broncos non-incentive annual average offer to Osweiler is more than Foles’ $12.27 million average, according to sources. With incentives, Osweiler would have a chance to approach Dalton’s average.
As free agency approaches, the Broncos are also hoping to re-sign defensive end Malik Jackson and work out reduced contracts for outside linebacker DeMarcus Ware and left tackle Ryan Clady.
Other Bronco free agent players will hit the free-agent market when it opens next week, a group that includes inside linebacker Danny Trevathan, running back Ronnie Hillman, offensive guard Evan Mathis, offensive tackles Ryan Harris and Tyler Polumbus, safety David Bruton Jr., tight end Vernon Davis, receivers Andre Caldwell and Jordan Norwood, and defensive back/returner Omar Bolden.
March 5, 2016 at 3:52 pm in reply to: Rams & qbs in free agency (from RG3 to possibly Fitzpatrick) #40031znModeratorfrom off the net
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jrry32
I think there are 2-3 QBs out there capable of providing average or better starting QB play. The challenge is in identifying who those guys are. My opinion is that Brett Hundley, Chase Daniel, and Mike Glennon are the three most likely candidates.(currently, there are a couple guys who I think might develop into that down the line)
Why those three guys?
Brett Hundley – Evaluating Brett Hundley last year, I didn’t understand why he fell to the 5th. He’s a lot like Jacoby Brissett in this year’s class who I also think has starter potential if allowed to sit and develop. Brissett is bigger and stronger while Hundley is more mobile. Hundley has all the tools. His problems coming out were his internal clock, his inconsistent mechanics (which caused scattershot down the field accuracy), and the system he played in. He had a year to sit behind Aaron Rodgers with Mike McCarthy. Is he a lock? No. But he has starter caliber tools, he got better each year in college at protecting the football, and progressed each year in college.
Chase Daniel – I wanted to try and brush up on some of the QBs available this off-season. I sat down and watched Jimmy Garoppolo and Chase Daniel on the same night. Daniel put Garoppolo to shame. Daniel has been in the NFL long enough to be considered a wily vet but never gotten an opportunity because he was originally behind Drew Brees with Sean Payton and spent the last few years with Andy Reid behind Alex Smith. Daniel is short at 6’0″ but spent the first few years of his career learning from the right QB. Daniel seems to have taken that opportunity seriously as you see a lot of the same instincts and awareness in the pocket that have allowed Drew Brees to be so successful. Daniel is sneaky athletic, throws a very catchable ball, and processes things quickly. He’s not Drew Brees but he’s a guy that I think could step up and be like Alex Smith in the right environment.(although, he’s more of a risk-taker than Alex)
Mike Glennon – Glennon is a tough one for me because he has a lot of similarities to Foles. However, Glennon spent the first two years of his career in a pretty terrible environment. While the Bucs gave him some weapons to work with, he had very questionable offensive minds and bad offensive lines in front of him. Glennon still managed to throw for 29 TDs to 15 Ints over his first 19 games. That’s nothing to be scoffed at and I do think that differentiates him from Foles who utterly collapsed when he had to leave the ideal environment in Philadelphia. I don’t know if Glennon has a lot of upside but I think he’s shown thus far that he can be a game manager level starting QB. Kind of like Kyle Orton was. Still, we haven’t seen Glennon in a stable situation with a decent OL. Might be a different player if given the chance. That all said, if Foles had given us rookie Glennon level play in 2015, we would have made the playoffs. I’d like to aim higher but worst comes to worst, I’d take Glennon on this team over another year of Foles.
Brock Osweiler – We’re all desperate for a QB but Osweiler isn’t the answer. He didn’t perform much better than Austin Davis did last year despite having far better talent around him. Keenum beat Austin Davis out for the job and looked more competent than Davis in his limited time. I just think Osweiler is getting overrated.(same with McCarron) Neither of them impressed me.People say with Osweiler and McCarron, “Look at their numbers as first time starters.” Their numbers don’t look much different than Austin Davis’s despite having far better supporting casts. But like Austin Davis, you could tell teams were figuring them out. Those guys aren’t the answer.
znModeratorPlenty of work to be done for Rams in secondary
Nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — The free-agent market is scheduled to open March 9 and teams may begin negotiations with those poised to hit the market beginning March 7. We’ll count down to that with a position-by-position look at what the Los Angeles Rams have in place, who is set to hit the market, what they might need and who might fit the bill.
Position: Defensive back
COMINGS AND GOINGS
Under contract: T.J. McDonald, E.J. Gaines, Marcus Roberson, Lamarcus Joyner, Eric Patterson, Maurice Alexander, Christian Bryant, Troy Hill
Pending free agents: Trumaine Johnson (franchise tag), Rodney McLeod, Janoris Jenkins, Cody Davis (restricted),
What’s needed: There’s really three options of what could happen here: The Rams could go through a complete makeover of the secondary, keep all of their pieces in place or something in between. If the Rams have their way, it will be option No. 2. They’ve already made some progress in that regard by using the franchise tag on Johnson. It’s unlikely he’ll go anywhere now as a team probably won’t cough up two first-round picks to land him. That means the Rams can then turn their attention to McLeod, Jenkins and Mark Barron (who we addressed in the linebacker preview). Both McLeod and Jenkins should have plenty of suitors and they won’t come cheap but the Rams would like to keep them both. However, if they are unable to do so, one would think the Rams are more likely to keep McLeod since they don’t have an obvious replacement for him on the roster. If Jenkins departs, the Rams still have E.J. Gaines, Marcus Roberson and Lamarcus Joyner to complement Johnson. Davis is a special teams dynamo, and the Rams will likely extend a tender offer to keep him around for that role and to provide depth. Rams general manager Les Snead and coach Jeff Fisher have made it clear that getting this secondary taken care of is the team’s top priority as the new league year begins.
Possible fits: The cornerback market isn’t exactly teeming with top talent if the Rams were to lose Jenkins and decide to pursue a replacement using that avenue. The Giants’ Prince Amukamara, Green Bay’s Casey Hayward and Kansas City’s Sean Smith figure to join Jenkins as the best players available at the position. Because corners are so valuable, don’t be surprised if the prices for those players rocket to or beyond the $10.5 million annual salary Byron Maxwell coaxed from Philadelphia last year. At safety, there are some intriguing options should the Rams lose McLeod or explore other options. San Diego’s Eric Weddle, Cincinnati’s Reggie Nelson and George Iloka and Cleveland’s Tashaun Gipson would all be worth a look if McLeod departs. Weddle is the most experienced of that group but is still a good player. Nelson and Iloka are intriguing talents with Nelson fitting more the role of a true “centerfielder.” Gipson had a down year in 2015 but could be something of a bargain as he looks to bounce back. In the end, the Rams are likely to hold on to at least two of the three of Johnson, Jenkins and McLeod with Jenkins appearing the best bet to get a big offer and go elsewhere.
March 5, 2016 at 3:08 pm in reply to: informal poll—the Rams will draft a qb? sign one? wuttz yer vott? #40027znModeratorKeenum and Foles is not the way to start the season. We’ve seen that show. It ends at 7-9.
To be honest, I think they do better than 7-9 if Keenum played all year. He’s clearly not a franchise qb type, but, he has enough I think for them to win more often than not, provided they have a top defense and a running game.
March 5, 2016 at 12:43 pm in reply to: Jon Gruden's QB Camp w/ Case Keenum 2012 (has morphed into "the keenum thread") #40021znModeratorL.A. Rams’ Case Keenum has the mind-set of a starting quarterback
http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-la-rams-case-keenum-20160304-story.html
The Los Angeles Rams’ head coach sat behind the middle of the table, a Pro Bowld efensive tackle to his right and a Pro Bowl punter to his left.
As reporters, photographers and television camera operators surrounded Jeff Fisher, Aaron Donald and Johnny Hekker on Friday after a team meeting at a Manhattan Beach hotel, Case Keenum stood off to the side.
It marked perhaps the final time that Keenum, the presumptive starting quarterback heading into off-season workouts, would not be the focus of attention as the Rams prepare for their first season in Southern California in more than two decades.
“I’m looking forward to moving to L.A.,” Keenum told reporters, adding, “I’m ready for the city and just for the experience to blow me away.”
Keenum, 28, will try to hold on to a job that has potential to become the most high-profile position in a celebrity-studded Los Angeles sports environment. Keenum is entering his fifth pro season after supplanting Nick Foles as the Rams’ starter late last season.
Fisher has said that Keenum was the starter but that Foles and second-year pro Sean Mannion would have an opportunity to compete for the job. He also said that the Rams could add as many as two quarterbacks before training camp.
The Rams have the 15th pick in the April draft. NFL veterans Robert Griffin III and Peyton Manning have been mentioned in reports as quarterbacks the Rams could pursue.
Keenum does not sound too concerned. He said he would treat the off-season as he did when he played at Abilene (Texas) Wylie High … as he did when he was a record-setting passer at the University of Houston … as he did after signing with the Houston Texans as an undrafted free agent.
“I’m going to treat it like I’m the starter,” he said. “That’s my mind-set… The nice thing now is that I’ve got some confidence, and some coaches saying some things and they’re believing the same thing, so I’m going to believe in myself.”
In six games last season, Keenum completed 61% of his passes, four for touchdowns, with one interception. The Rams went 3-2 in his five starts.
“I’m excited about the position I’m in and the position the team is in,” he said. “I think we’re poised to make that next step and be a playoff contender.”
The Rams have a way to go. They were 7-9 last season, the fourth time in four seasons under Fisher that they finished below .500. The Rams featured star rookie running back Todd Gurley but ranked last in passing offense.
“I’m tired of hearing that the Rams were 32nd in passing, to be honest,” Keenum said, adding, “Literally, the only way is up.”
General Manager Les Snead has said that he has confidence in Keenum, an unrestricted free agent who Snead said would be re-signed. There was no pressure to bring in a big-name quarterback to appease the celebrity-driven L.A. market, Snead said.
“Not only in the NFL but in most team sports, I don’t think you sell anything — I think you earn everything,” Snead said. “We’ll earn, if you want to call it fan appreciation, by going out and being competitive and winning games.
“It’s never been a philosophy to go, ‘Hey, let’s sell an individual.’ Because it’s 11 on offense, 11 on defense, 11 on special teams. You’ve got to work together.”
Keenum said he was prepared to compete if the Rams bring in other quarterbacks.
“I [had] one scholarship offer out of high school,” he said. “Out of college I was undrafted. Nothing’s been handed to me. I’ve worked extremely hard for anything that’s come my way, so I know that I’m going to have to work extremely hard for anything that comes forward from this.”
Much of the discussion during the team meeting dealt with logistics of the Rams’ relocation to Los Angeles. Keenum does not expect his bid to open the season as the starter to be thrown off by the move.
“You can look at it as problems and you can look at it as opportunities,” he said. “I’m just a kid from West Texas who grew up in a small town. Went to Houston, a little bit bigger city. But I mean this is L.A. … there’s a lot of opportunity here.”
March 5, 2016 at 9:59 am in reply to: Jon Gruden's QB Camp w/ Case Keenum 2012 (has morphed into "the keenum thread") #40013znModeratorMaking the case for Case (2/4). Arm strength.
This is the one I have doubts about. On this particular vid there, he lofts the ball some. I want a flatter trajectory on passes like that.
But then some people think Keenum has a rag arm. I think it’s a little better than that.
For a small-ish guy, I think his arm is better than the arm of
Steve Walsh
Jamie Martin
Kellen Clemens
Shaun Hill
Austin Davis
AJ FeeleyI think of Keenum as the perfect blend of Joe Montana and TJ Rubley.
Kidding. I kid. I’m a big kidder.
Yes they need a qb but Keenum, in the meanwhile, has one key job: do not throw INTs.
Cook and Lynch have gone down a bit in my opinion
I am wondering if Lynch is a less ready, needs more development version of Flacco. If he’s there, maybe they take him.
znModeratorMarch 5, 2016 at 12:51 am in reply to: 2016 mocks & rankings & general draft commentaries, thread 2 #40004znModeratorNFLDraftScout.com
Top-50 Draft Board 2.0: Reshuffling the deck after the combine
Dane Brugler
.http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25503943/nfl-draft-top-50-draft-board-20
As the calendar changes from February to March, NFL teams switch their focus from the combine to the pro day circuit, which means an update to the top-50 draft board.
My second top-50 draft board has five new names: Appalachian State defensive end Ronald Blair, Boise State defensive end Kamalei Correa, Baylor cornerback Xavien Howard, Colorado State wide receiver Rashard Higgins and Oklahoma wide receiver Sterling Shepard.
The top seven has not changed from the first draft board with Ole Miss offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil, UCLA linebacker Myles Jack and Florida State safety Jalen Ramsey holding the top three spots. Due to multiple teams failing his physical at the combine, Notre Dame linebacker Jaylon Smith was not included in this update.
This board will fluctuate somewhat throughout the process with two more updates (one after pro days and the medical re-checks and a final update the week before the draft).
1. Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss (6-5, 305, 5.23, Jr.)
Despite never earning SEC Offensive Lineman of the Week honors in his three-year Ole Miss career, Tunsil is the best prospect in the 2016 NFL Draft. He is a nimble big man with a rare athletic skill set for the position and his flaws are more nitpicking than true weaknesses.2. Myles Jack, LB, UCLA (6-1, 245, 4.56, Jr.)
Jack is an athletic specimen with above average pursuit speed, contact balance and mental processor to know everything going on around him. He doesn’t have ideal size or power and his medicals need to be vetted (meniscus), but Jack has the athletic skill set to be a difference-maker.3. Jalen Ramsey, S, Florida State (6-1, 202, 4.49, Jr.)
If you combined a safety, cornerback and linebacker into one prospect, the result would look something like Ramsey, who was blessed with the inherent instincts and an impressive size/athletic profile. It’s rare to see defensive backs mentioned as worthy of the top pick, but he deserves it.4. Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State (6-5, 275, 4.82, Jr.)
Bosa is very physically gifted, but even better, he knows how to use those gifts and works his tail off to maximize his potential. He might never be a consistent double-digit sack artist in the NFL, but he is scheme versatile with the power, athleticism and instinctive traits to disrupt the pocket.Joey Bosa could fit into an NFL defensive scheme in multiple ways. (USATSI)
Joey Bosa could fit into an NFL defensive scheme in multiple ways. (USATSI)
5. Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State (6-0, 225, 4.42, Jr.)
Elliott has the résumé of a playmaker and is extremely well-rounded, doing some of his best work away from the ball. He is outstanding at syncing his eyes with his feet to read, cut and go in a fluid motion, displaying the playmaking traits to make an impact runner from day one.6. Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss (6-2, 210, 4.52, Jr.)
Although he’s not a sudden athlete, Treadwell plays with athletic twitch and power to be a threat before and after the catch. He has exceptional ball skills and catching radius with strong hands to pluck away from his body, drawing comparisons to a lesser-dynamic version of Dez Bryant.7. DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon (6-7, 290, 4.87, Sr.)
Buckner plays with explosive movements and terrific body control for a man his size, flashing heavy hands and initial power to be a disruptive force. He’s still learning how to string together rush moves, but developed into more of a consistent playmaker as a senior.8. Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville (6-1, 303, 4.92, Sr.)
A balanced athlete for his size, Rankins is a physical presence with the hand strength to press blockers off his frame, create separation and disrupt the backfield. He keeps his eyes trained on the ball and understands different hand tactics — an ascending player.9. Jared Goff, QB, California (6-4, 210, 4.82, Jr.)
Goff has good, but not great, physical traits and arm strength, but his best qualities are his intelligence, pocket mechanics and ability to self-evaluate. He undoubtedly faces a learning curve in the NFL, but he has the passing traits and mental process to find success early in his pro career.10. Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State (6-5, 231, 4.84, RSr.)
Although his internal clock and eye use need maturing, Wentz boasts a NFL-style skill set with his size, athleticism and arm talent. He lacks ideal experience against top competition, but his tape shows the anticipation and field vision to work through reads and make sound decisions.11. Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame (6-6, 315, 5.17, RJr.)
A dancing bear, Stanley was blessed with the athleticism, long arms and above-average feet to handle speed and mirror rushers in space. He needs to fine tune his mechanics before he’s ready for NFL snaps, but his upside and athletic skill set should land him in the top 10.12. Darron Lee, LB, Ohio State (6-1, 235, 4.48, RSo.)
A high school quarterback, Lee is still young in linebacker years, but he is a fantastic athlete with long arms, aggressive hands and the striking ability to finish through his target. He is a versatile run-and-hit defender with an attacking mindset that fits today’s NFL. Lee’s combine performance coupled with Jack’s injury concerns could make him the first linebacker drafted.13. Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson (5-10, 195, 4.43, RSo.)
Alexander didn’t record an interception in college, but he wasn’t consistently targeted, not allowing a touchdown the final 24 games of his career. While his route anticipation and technique need work, he is able to smother receivers with his lower body fluidity and quick reflexes.14. Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson (6-3, 270, 4.67, RJr.)
Despite losing eight defensive starters from 2014, Clemson’s defense ranked top 10 nationally in 2015 and Lawson was a substantial reason for that, leading the nation in tackles for loss (25.5). He isn’t a long-armed, twitchy athlete, but his efficient pass-rush process makes him productive.15. Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida (5-11, 199, 4.48, Jr.)
Although he has only ordinary size, Hargreaves is above average in three main areas for the position: play speed, instincts and competitive toughness. He needs to improve his timing and spacing in coverage but has a coachable attitude and decisive reactor.16. Noah Spence, DE, Eastern Kentucky (6-3, 261, 4.68, RJr.)
An Ohio State transfer, Spence is one of the top wild cards in the 2016 class due to his immense talent, but heavy baggage off the field. He is a slippery rusher with the initial burst, lateral quicks and natural leverage to threaten the pocket on a regular basis.17. Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama (6-2, 252, 4.72, Sr.)
An excellent point of attack defender, Ragland has terrific play speed, and it’s no coincidence that he’s always around the ball with his diagnose skills. He can be overaggressive at times, but he’s a punishing tackler and flashes violence in his hands to detach himself from blocks.18. Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama (6-3, 313, 5.14, Sr.)
Although not a rangy player, Reed is a smooth athlete for his size, scraping down the line of scrimmage and pushing the pocket (led all Alabama defensive linemen in tackles each of the last two seasons). He is the draft’s top nose tackle due to his stout anchor and balance.19. Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis (6-6, 230, 4.95, RJr.)
A late bloomer, Lynch needs mechanical work and on-field reps, but he checks boxes for his size, athleticism, arm talent and appetite for football. Although his pro transition requires time, the ingredients are there for Lynch to develop into a NFL starter.20. Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State (6-6, 318, 5.43, RJr.)
Conklin will struggle with speed at times, but no one is going through him due to his wide base and contact balance, always ready for action, which compensates for his elite quickness in pass protection. He is well-coached, physical and a natural competitor.21. Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State (6-1, 200, 4.52, RSo.)
Apple isn’t afraid to be physical and contest at the top of routes, but he’s still learning what he can get away with and what will draw flags. He has several traits for the position that translate well to the next level with his size, length and athleticism to stay in phase with receivers.22. Cody Whitehair, G, Kansas State (6-4, 309, 5.08, RSr.)
Whitehair left an indelible mark at KSU with his leadership, work ethic and high level of play the last four years at both tackle and guard. He doesn’t have the length to hold up consistently on the edges in the NFL, but Whitehair has the base strength and instincts to start at guard right now.23. Robert Nkemdiche, DT, Ole Miss (6-3, 296, 4.86, Jr.)
A boom-or-bust type of prospect, Nkemdiche has above-average athleticism for his size, with the movement skills to skirt blockers and win with power. He is one of the top 10 talents in this draft class, but not one of the top 10 football players at this point in his development.24. A’Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama (6-3, 312, 5.18, Jr.)
Nicknamed the “man child” growing up, Robinson has the look and power of a full grown man. His flashes are very good, but they don’t happen consistently, mostly because he was asked to two-gap, clog things up and occupy blockers, which doesn’t show up in the box score.25. Corey Coleman, WR, Baylor (5-10, 190, 4.42, RJr.)
Baylor’s wide-open offense is mostly half-field reads and unchallenged routes, making it difficult to compare Coleman’s college film to what he’ll see in the NFL. However, he has the athletic traits and competitive temperament that suggest it’s only a matter of time before he finds success.26. William Jackson, CB, Houston (6-1, 195, 4.52, Sr.)
Jackson, who leaves Houston with a school-record 48 passes defended, was a wide receiver in high school and does a lot of receiver-like things at the catch point with his tracking ability, length and ball skills. He can struggle in zone, but he plays sticky coverage in press-man.27. Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio State (6-7, 315, 5.21, Sr.)
Although he can struggle at times with speed off the edge, especially flexible rushers who can bend underneath him, Decker has the frame, balance and forceful hands to neutralize quickness and control the point of attack. He doesn’t have a high NFL ceiling, but he’s a day one starter.28. Andrew Billings, DT, Baylor (6-1, 310, 5.04, Jr.)
Billings, who was a record-setting weight-lifter in high school, flashes dominant qualities when he keeps his pad level low, rolls his hips and pushes his momentum into the pocket. As the technique and discipline catch up, Billings should continue to get better.29. Vernon Butler, DT, Louisiana Tech (6-3, 309, 5.06, Sr.)
Butler’s flashes are impressive due to his lower body athleticism and upper body power to stack blockers and make stops at or behind the line of scrimmage. He needs to develop his pass rush technique, but his relentless playing temperament fits every scheme.30. Jonathan Bullard, DL, Florida (6-3, 283, 4.86, Sr.)
A player who benefited by returning for his senior season, Bullard is a wrecking ball at the line of scrimmage due to his anticipation off the snap and quick reflexes to find the ball. He is limited as a pass rusher, but scheme diverse due to his play recognition at the point of attack.31. Kenny Clark, DT, UCLA (6-2, 310, 5.14, Jr.)
A former high school wrestling champ, Clark translates several of those techniques from the mat to the football field. He is powerful at the point of attack and flashes the violence, agility and motor to twist and drive blockers backwards, projecting in an even or odd front.32. Josh Doctson, WR, TCU (6-2, 195, 4.49, RSr.)
Although his experience is in a spread offense that didn’t ask him to run a full route tree, Doctson shows outstanding effort on throws in his zip code, expanding his catch radius, contorting his body and finding ways to finish catches — often bailing out his quarterback.33. Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson (6-4, 275, 4.84, RJr.)
Although he didn’t start until this past season, Dodd made it count with 23.5 tackles for loss and a dozen sacks, numbers that fell just shy of Lawson’s for the team lead. Dodd is still raw in areas, but with his size and quickness off the ball, he has been steadily rising.34. Ryan Kelly, C, Alabama (6-4, 297, 5.23, RSr.)
The glue of the Crimson Tide offensive line, Kelly was a three-year starter in Tuscaloosa and a model of consistency. He tends to get overaggressive and fall off blocks, but he is quick in his movements and works hard to maintain leverage, projecting as the draft’s top center.35. Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State (6-3, 210, 4.54, RJr.)
Although not the fastest or most explosive, Thomas is a good-sized athlete and detailed route runner with little wasted movements to create spacing at the stem. He will need time to adapt to a NFL playbook, but his savvy footwork, body control and ball skills are starter quality.36. Vonn Bell, S, Ohio State (5-11, 205, 4.52, Jr.)
Although his tackling mechanics need some refinement, Bell plays with the requisite mental and physical toughness and can hold his own in man coverage. His athleticism, timing and savvy at the position translate well to the next level, along with his decisive reactor.37. Pharoh Cooper, WR, South Carolina (5-11, 208, 4.52, Jr.)
A playmaker with the ball in his hands, Cooper displays the play speed, elusive cuts and start/stop movements to create on his own, before and after the catch. Similar to Randall Cobb when he came out of Kentucky, Cooper is a jack-of-all-trades weapon on offense.38. Will Fuller, WR, Notre Dame (6-0, 184, 4.42, RJr.)
A dynamic deep threat, Fuller has the uncanny ability to create separation late in his route, using an extra gear when the ball is in the air, a burst that most cornerbacks can’t match. His dropped passes are frustrating, but he is a big-time playmaker due to his ability to stretch the field.39. Su’a Cravens, S/LB, Southern California (6-1, 225, 4.58, Jr.)
Cravens was asked to do a little bit of everything for the Trojans in a hybrid safety/linebacker role. His take-on strength and physical nature as a tackler are both below average, but he’s a fluid athlete with excellent reaction skills and instincts to cover on an island.40. Ronald Blair, DE, Appalachian State (6-2, 284, 5.15, RSr.)
Although his combine numbers don’t accurately reflect his impressive tape, Blair belongs in the second-round discussion. He plays with violent hands and aggressive pass rush moves to rip through blockers, showing the effort to finish in the pocket.41. Kendall Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech (6-0, 197, 4.48, Jr.)
Fuller looked like a future high-round pick his first two years in Blacksburg, but 2015 was a lost season for him due to a torn meniscus. Nonetheless, he has the short-area quickness, controlled footwork and natural feel in coverage to be a reliable NFL starter.42. Kamalei Correa, DE/LB, Boise State (6-3, 243, 4.69, Jr.)
Correa lacks much variety with his pass rush at this point in his development and his production is based more on effort and raw athleticism than technique and discipline. But he has the movement skills and competitive toughness worth grooming in a 3-4 scheme.43. Xavien Howard, CB, Baylor (6-0, 201, 4.58, RJr.)
Howard won’t be featured as the prototype for fundamentals in coverage, but his ability to find the ball in flight and use his ball skills to disrupt the catch point is above average. Although his long-speed isn’t ideal, he mixes things up and does a lot of receiver-like things in coverage.44. Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State (6-3, 275, 4.76, RJr.)
A native of Nigeria, Ogbah is a “coach’s dream” according to Mike Gundy due to his strong work ethic, intelligence and discipline. He is still learning the complexities of the position and lacks elite burst, but he’s a balanced athlete with a coachable mentality that can be molded.45. Leonard Floyd, LB, Georgia (6-3, 232, 4.73, RJr.)
Floyd will likely be drafted higher than this ranking, especially after he blew up the combine. He has impressive rush skills to dip and flatten around the edge, but his lack of functional strength is a glaring concern — once blockers make contact, he’s too easily shut down.46. Artie Burns, CB, Miami (6-0, 193, 4.53, Jr.)
Although undisciplined as a tackler and with his hands in coverage, Burns has the requisite play speed, lower body explosion and hip fluidity to play in both man and zone coverage in the NFL. He will be a special teams stand-out while his route anticipation and hand tactics improve.47. Rashard Higgins, WR, Colorado State (6-1, 196, 4.64, Jr.)
Higgins doesn’t have elite size or speed for the position, but he might be the best receiver in this class at finding open zones and giving his quarterback a clean target. He is a natural catcher of the football with the production that matches the tape.48. Sterling Shepard, WR, Oklahoma (5-10, 194, 4.48, Sr.)
Although his lack of size and strength will limit him in some areas, Shepard has above average body control and route savvy, using tempo and multiple gears to get open. Despite his limitations, Shepard is a very natural pass-catcher with the skills to be a YAC monster.49. Derrick Henry, RB, Alabama (6-2, 242, 4.54, Jr.)
Since 2011, Alabama has had four running backs drafted in the first two rounds (with mixed results) and Henry should be the fifth. He is a powerful, yet graceful north-south athlete who can fit through tight spaces, using patience and instincts to gash defenses.50. Austin Johnson, DT, Penn State (6-3, 325, 5.27, RJr.)
A prospect whose production matches his tape, Johnson is built well to take on multiple blockers and clog the middle of the field. His motor is always revving and he moves well in small areas, showing the strong hands to stack and create movement in even and odd frontsMarch 4, 2016 at 11:35 pm in reply to: Rams will meet Friday in Manhattan Beach to discuss logistics of move #40003znModeratorRams Excited for Opportunities in L.A.
Myles Simmons
MANHATTAN BEACH, Calif. — With relocation to Los Angeles an ongoing process, the Rams met as a team for the first time since the return to Southern California became official on Friday morning. Head coach Jeff Fisher said the time served as a way to get everyone on the same page when it comes to the logistics of getting settled in the area.
“We wanted to wait until we had more information with respect to the offseason program, locations for training camp, and potential locations for the permanent facility, and to get all the players together for one meeting,” Fisher said. “And that’s what took place this morning,”
“We had probably 80 percent of our roster here today,” Fisher added. “When we announced the meeting probably a month or so ago, we had guys call [to say], ‘Well I’m on a cruise,’ or, ‘I’m at a wedding.’ And that’s OK. We’ll get the information to them. It was certainly not a mandatory meeting.”
As things stand in early March, there isn’t necessarily much going on at team headquarters from a player standpoint. And the rules of the collective bargaining agreement preclude teams from meeting until mid-April. But these were special circumstances.
“It wouldn’t have been possible if it weren’t for the effort of the management council and the players’ association because these things are not permissible prior to the offseason program,” Fisher said. “So we had numerous discussions with them, they were both represented in the meeting, and I thought we got a lot accomplished.”
One of the most significant pieces of news the players learned was where the team will hold its offseason program. The Rams will occupy the Cowboys’ facility northwest of L.A. in Oxnard starting in April, but will vacate it after the end of OTAs in June, as Dallas comes in for training camp.
“It’s an ideal situation for us. The Cowboys have been very cooperative. We’re going to upgrade that facility along with them, because they’re coming back for camp,” Fisher said. “We’re looking at the UC Irvine facility for training camp. And that’s looking good, we just haven’t nailed down our temporary facility [for the regular season].”
As for the players themselves, defensive tackle Aaron Donald said the Friday morning meeting was worthwhile for a number of reasons.
“It’s just good to be here and to finally hear from coach on everything so we could all get on the same page as far as knowing what to expect, where we’re going to be, and everything like that,” Donald said. “We’ve got a good idea of where we’re going to be at and things like that because a lot of us have to move our families out here as well.”
Punter Johnny Hekker noted that for family members, the transition can be bittersweet.
“They’re a little bit sad to be leaving what’s familiar. But I think the sunshine and sandy beaches aren’t too bad to have waiting ahead of you. So I think people are excited about that,” Hekker said.
This kind of transition can be difficult for any team to go through, but Fisher said the close-knit nature of the Rams may help the squad rally to success.
“We’re going to spend a lot of time together, you know? We’ve got a lot to get through. But this is a unique team,” Fisher said. “It’s a great locker room. They’re going to pull for each other, they’re going to help each other. And so I think as we move through this process and look to get settled, we can use this to our advantage.”
“it’s definitely going to be a team-building experience,” linebacker Alec Ogletree said. “Everybody is going to have to become closer now because nobody knows what’s going to happen from here to there. Everybody’s going into a new experience.”
And that feeds into the optimism the entire team is feeling when it comes to returning the Rams to Los Angeles.
“This is an incredible opportunity for everyone on the team and our families,” quarterback Case Keenum said. “So I don’t think any of us look at it as problems. Maybe some slight inconveniences with moving and different things. But the team has done a great job of handling a lot of that stuff for us. The league has done a great job and we’re all excited.”
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